Hi, I've seen a couple of lag fixes out there and they seem to be working well. But why is it lagging? Slow rom/internal memory card? Bad FAT32 filesystem as one of the fix developers said in a thread?
I am curious about this because if it's hardware problem then I might wait for a bit longer before upgrading my phone and Samsung may be already working on it, but if it's just software then I like to get a new phone now (from my good old E71)
thanks a lot!
qiu said:
Hi, I've seen a couple of lag fixes out there and they seem to be working well. But why is it lagging? Slow rom/internal memory card? Bad FAT32 filesystem as one of the fix developers said in a thread?
I am curious about this because if it's hardware problem then I might wait for a bit longer before upgrading my phone and Samsung may be already working on it, but if it's just software then I like to get a new phone now (from my good old E71)
thanks a lot!
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While the 16gb hardware is slower then the 1gb rom used it is not why it is lagging..what is causing the lag is Samsung decided to use their proprietary RFS file system which either does not work well with Android in general or has too big of a footprint aka inefficient thus causing a bottleneck of the I/O
cheers, then what about the leaked 2.2 ROM? Has Samsung done any improvement in the I/O performance at all?
I really like this phone but the laggy issue is annoying.
Well looks like not all galaxy s are lagging. You can find many people on forum without this problem. I'm one of them. 55 apps, adw, no task killers and no lags at all.
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K0v4L said:
Well looks like not all galaxy s are lagging. You can find many people on forum without this problem. I'm one of them. 55 apps, adw, no task killers and no lags at all.
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You can count me in on that one.
this is what i posted on another topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7834736&postcount=9
AllGamer said:
i'll disagree with the lag
i'm still using the stock ROM on mine, and i don't experience the lags some people are having.
i can browse fast, switch apps fast, play audio/video fast, launch GPS app fast, and get a lock fast even when the car is moving on the road already
i do leave stuff like Fring running in the backgroup for my IM and video calls, meanwhile the music player plays via Bluetooth to the car Deck or BT headphones, and using GPS to check my route for speed, traffic jam, etc.
email is constantly syncing, set to auto sync every hour
if i want to check the weather it loads up instantly
using stock JH2 ROM
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thanks a lot, you guys. But which Galaxy s are you using? Maybe there is a superior version or....I am in the UK so probably the international version?
i have the uk version, bought2 weeks ago. I noticed little lag, nothing major at all.
I decided to do the lag fix and the phone is now realllllyyyy fast with no lag
UK version from o2
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qiu said:
thanks a lot, you guys. But which Galaxy s are you using? Maybe there is a superior version or....I am in the UK so probably the international version?
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yes UK unlocked version is the international version, the same one from HK, and Singapore and many other countries from the old continent.
Except Korea / Brazil / China / USA they have their own.
I'm finally getting 0 lag too now I flashed to JM6 (I got lag on every other firmware). My Compass works for the first time too. I haven't tried GPS testing yet but my hopes are up. You may want to give JM6 a try.
afaik recent firmwares (jh2 for ex) have a fixed RFS driver that doesnt lag up and fragments, whatever the real technical reason is why Rfs is slow on first generation firmwares, so the "not all get it" isn't really just "luck" stuff.
actually this regular "my phone dont do this ur just unlucky" is just some form of disinformation that is pretty much annoying.
you can check if you get 1500+ in quadrant, you don't have the issue (and IO tests go through quickly), otherwise, you do
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afaik recent firmwares (jh2 for ex) have a fixed RFS driver that doesnt lag up and fragments, whatever the real technical reason is why Rfs is slow on first generation firmwares, so the "not all get it" isn't really just "luck" stuff.
actually this regular "my phone dont do this ur just unlucky" is just some form of disinformation that is pretty much annoying.
you can check if you get 1500+ in quadrant, you don't have the issue (and IO tests go through quickly), otherwise, you do
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The stock galaxy s only gets about 800 in quadrant, but that score is only bettered by the nexus running froyo. It scored better than nexus on 2.1, desire and a gamut of other phones. But I do not read about these phone owners gripping about lag or need to go above 1500 in quadrant. Why?
Frankly, I have done the lag fix and my quadrant score is now 2137. But I do not feel any significant difference than when it was only 800. In other words, I dun feel that the phone was slow before the fix.
thanks everyone, I've got to say this is the most helpful forum I've ever been to.
gonna call Three for a upgrade offer
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you can check if you get 1500+ in quadrant, you don't have the issue (and IO tests go through quickly), otherwise, you do
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Umm.. Don't take Quadrant for gospel. You could dump most of the OS on RAMdisk and you'll get awesome scores. We need a few test cases to ACCURATELY demonstrate the problem reliably, because quadrant only tests a few cases...
After installing the lag fix I noticed things were hanging more than normal. Un-installed it and things are fine again. Not sure if it was just something I had installed or what, but my phone still feels as 'fast' as after the fix.
yay!!!!!!!! i found my very first lag today
i had running media player over BT, GPS copilot, GPS mytracks, video Fring, and got the super mario running in the live wall paper
everything was able to funtion properly with some delay of course, with the exception of mytracks and media player
i'll try to reproduce the problem and see if i can pinpoint which of the 2 program is causing the lag (mytrack vs samsung media player)
Quadrant scores really have **** to do with everyday performance for the majority of people. You can post up 2300 in Quadrant and still experience lag during normal use. Think of it like 3DMark vs. Actual game performance on a PC.
Every phone is susceptible to the lag problem as every galaxy s uses Samsung's proprietary rfs format. Also, Crapwiz is part of the problem. The sooner Samsung and other manufacturers get their heads out of their asses and offer their products with stock android, the better. Give people the option of using Sense or Crapwiz but dont force it on them.
It speaks volumes to the quality of Samsung programmers when Launcher Pro is smoother while running on top of Crapwiz than Crapwiz by itself. The sooner the ASOP ROM is finished, the sooner the phone becomes more pleasant to use by those of us who dont need shiny things, facebook/twatter and iphone ui clones waved constantly in front of us.
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Personally, i noticed slight lag.. very very slight lag or hanging when opening some apps for the first time.
However after upgrading to JM1, i haven't noticed that at all. Not saying it is solved. This has just been my experience.
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Quadrant scores really have **** to do with everyday performance for the majority of people. You can post up 2300 in Quadrant and still experience lag during normal use. Think of it like 3DMark vs. Actual game performance on a PC.
Every phone is susceptible to the lag problem as every galaxy s uses Samsung's proprietary rfs format. Also, Crapwiz is part of the problem. The sooner Samsung and other manufacturers get their heads out of their asses and offer their products with stock android, the better. Give people the option of using Sense or Crapwiz but dont force it on them.
It speaks volumes to the quality of Samsung programmers when Launcher Pro is smoother while running on top of Crapwiz than Crapwiz by itself. The sooner the ASOP ROM is finished, the sooner the phone becomes more pleasant to use by those of us who dont need shiny things, facebook/twatter and iphone ui clones waved constantly in front of us.
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We don't know thats the cause.. Someone said the reason RFS was slow is that "it doesn't buffer stuff" before.. But never seen confirmation. So anyone have actual proof its RFS?
I was on the stock firmware DJF4 and this has lots of lag. I have about 200+ apps installed and it usually takes a long time to boot up (esp Appdrawer). And after using awhile with it, even opening phone/messaging/contact lags 2-5 secs.
I upgraded to the official DJG4 yesterday and now the phone performs much better and battery life has improved (i.e. the standby time increased 30-50%) with the same apps/configuration of the old firmware.
After 36 hours with the new firmware, I daresay the lag issue is now gone. The DJG4 firmware also comes with handy task manager. Free RAM now seldom goes below 60MB. I tested by opening 20-30 apps over and over and there is still no lag. And I dont even have a auto-kill task manager running.
Hi, I'm thinking about getting a tab from someone on craigslist.
I'm just planning on using it as a web browser, movie watcher, and some games here and there.
I have seen the performance of the GPU in the browser on a galaxy s phone with the XXJPU 2.2.1 release, and it looks amazing!! Here's a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkZZXeF5uV8
My question is, has the same "fix" been released that makes scrolling that smooth even though flash is on, for the tab?
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My question is, has the same "fix" been released that makes scrolling that smooth even though flash is on, for the tab?
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Nope, not yet. The performance on Roto's JMI is much better than stock, but still not as good as on the SGS.
hello there
got my note 2 weeks ago and i noticed a weird slowness
not in games but in everyday use its really annoying
the it cant be hardware problem right?
i mean..how can it be that such strong hardware cant hold
this software?
GUARDIANBD said:
hello there
got my note 2 weeks ago and i noticed a weird slowness
not in games but in everyday use its really annoying
the it cant be hardware problem right?
i mean..how can it be that such strong hardware cant hold
this software?
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Really strange 'cuz Note, even with stocks, is powerfull in terms of GPU and HW. Are you talking about its reactivity? Flashing other kernels and other ROMS you'd see the fastest device you can find right know, but I repeat, even with stocks I remember it was fast so it's too strange :banghead:
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My one works great. It might be your phone... try returning?
My acted the same. On stock rom it was choppy and laggy.
Custom fw solved the issue.
Same here...
Quite laggy and slow on stock firmware once I filled it up with apps.
Custom solved that though. I used Rocket v22, (full wipe when went to that final version along with Abyss 4.0). I got some strange results though, v22 was laggy for me and Abyss 4.2 got me battery drain. Also, Abyss 4.0 sometimes had the tendency to overheat. AGAIN, this is opposed to what most users have reported, so...might just be my phone, the way I use it...I don't know.
I finally found bliss in DarkyRom, with Franco Kernel. Smooth gaming, no lag (yet). Also, I've found ICS Roms to be really really smooth, although I had to go back to GB due to some features missing in these betas.
Thanks guys
Well im wait'n to the ics update..
Does anyone have a clue when its gonna released ?
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My only lag was in the Contacts,it usually took a long time to open,but a third party application solved it.
As for the ICS its better you check the sticky thread,the Moderater who is a bit temprimental guy could easily delete this thread as soon as he notices that word mentioned any other place than there.
However my personal opinion is that it wont come before the end of June.
Noticed this also. I am coming from an Epic 4G Touch and even completely stock that device was amazingly fast with everything. My Gnote was unbearably slow on the stock KK2 firmware and is a lot faster/smoother on LC1 with Franco Kernel 9. However still not as responsive/smooth as the Epic 4G Touch was for whatever reason.
I noticed that my Note is no as spritely as my old iPhone 4S.. I found after turning on it was better not to rush, pause for a split second and then everything is ok.
Thought so..
Im using startup auditor and now its much faster then before.
Hope that the update in june will fix the problems.. im kinda missing the 4s in teaems of camera quality but the overall performance are great.
too bad that the screen is Pentile based and not Plus..
Hope that the SGS3 will come out soon..
Thanks guys!
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Hey all,
I was wondering which chrome build runs the best on our beloved nexus 6p's: stable or beta? Which one gives you the best performance and uses the least battery juice?
Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences!
I use chrome canary. It really is hard to tell a difference between all the chrome versions. If tuga browser would work consistently on more roms id use it. It was really fast.
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Hey all,
I was wondering which chrome build runs the best on our beloved nexus 6p's: stable or beta? Which one gives you the best performance and uses the least battery juice?
Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences!
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I use beta. It seemed to use less battery when I installed it but that was a while ago.
I freeze Chrome and use Dolphin! Problem solved
I used to use Dolphin but after a while I just found too many problems. It didn't render some web pages correctly. It wouldn't open some websites at all even though they worked on another browser. It also had a tendency to freeze and crash.
Yeah I've used others, but after a while I kept going back to chrome..
Thanks for your experiences!
I don't know if it's just me but I get micro stutters while scrolling no matter what kernel I use. Is this normal?
Must be just you. Rom feels fast to me. I have McLaren but I doubt there is any real world differences
Im rooted but using stock kernel and rom and this is the fasted and smoothest android device I ever had. Mine has zero lag. Compared it with an iPhone earlier and scrolling was the same. I have the 6T 8gb version.
Must be my phone. I have the 8gb ram version and no matter what I get micro stutters once in a while.
Stutters in the overall system or just the browser? For me it's only when I use Chrome (but that's on almost every device I use). I've switched to using Samsung Browser Beta on every Android device because it's so much smoother and you can download ad blockers that works so damn well.
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Stutters in the overall system or just the browser? For me it's only when I use Chrome (but that's on almost every device I use). I've switched to using Samsung Browser Beta on every Android device because it's so much smoother and you can download ad blockers that works so damn well.
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Stutters on chrome, twitter, and xda forums
elpindian said:
Stutters in the overall system or just the browser? For me it's only when I use Chrome (but that's on almost every device I use). I've switched to using Samsung Browser Beta on every Android device because it's so much smoother and you can download ad blockers that works so damn well.
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I use the Samsung browser not beta. Is the beta that much better?
Honestly I haven't tried the regular. Accidentally downloaded the beta first and had zero issues with it so I've just stuck with it for my last 4 or 5 devices.
No stutters on mine, that I have noticed yet at least. I am stock/unrooted, but in Dev settings I did speed up the animations (I do this on all phones, personal preference).