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Has anyone else thought of emulators on the ouya? Playing retro games on the big screen again would be great. Personally this is one of the biggest reasons I'm excited for the console. Can't wait to play ocarina of time.
FrostyF7 said:
Has anyone else thought of emulators on the ouya? Playing retro games on the big screen again would be great. Personally this is one of the biggest reasons I'm excited for the console. Can't wait to play ocarina of time.
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I've bought/pre ordered the ouya primarily for xbmc, but being able to pay some classics like shadow run and legend of Zelda, whilst lying in bed on a Sunday morning is massively appealing.
It's starting to feel like Christmas with the release just around the corner and I'm looking forward to seeing what the devs around here do when they get their mucky paws on it.
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No, I prefer something like the Xperia Play for emulators, though its a bit out dated in term of performance. But the Ouya should do emulators really well too. I'm mainly getting the Ouya to use as an HTPC.
ditto.
I backed OUYA mainly for XBMC but the fact that I can run emulations is a bonus. imaging DosBox with all the old school Sierra games, on the big screen.
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God i totally love the idea of using emulators on this it's another reason i purchased it. On my phone gs2 i use the playstation emulators gameboy eveyrthing now to be able to do it on a tv.... man im excited
Search YouTube. Tons of videos of devs using side loaded emulators to play old school games on the Ouya. It's reality, folks.
Grooby97 said:
ditto.
I backed OUYA mainly for XBMC but the fact that I can run emulations is a bonus. imaging DosBox with all the old school Sierra games, on the big screen.
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Honestly, there's not really more "possibility" with emulation on the Ouya than there is on any other somewhat recent Android device.
There is one bad thing. The focus Ouya team are now placing on emulators could result in unneeded focus on the subject and gaming company retained lawyers could be out for money. Kind of like when MP3 started getting popular and you had a lot of one hit wonders trying to sue for a back catalogue that nobody even bought when they were new. Saturday Night Live had a funny skit about that.
Ouya had better be careful, since they are pushing it as a feature, which will be like a bleeding cut in the water to lawyers.
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I am serious. Usually I am that much.
rushless said:
There is one bad thing. The focus Ouya team are now placing on emulators could result in unneeded focus on the subject and gaming company retained lawyers could be out for money. Kind of like when MP3 started getting popular and you had a lot of one hit wonders trying to sue for a back catalogue that nobody even bought when they were new. Saturday Night Live had a funny skit about that.
Ouya had better be careful, since they are pushing it as a feature, which will be like a bleeding cut in the water to lawyers.
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I dunno about having to worry that much about emulation and the legalities for the OUYA. Heck, google play sells emulators that can be used on any android device. the ouya is that itself.. just another android device. emulation isn't illegal..
The emulation is not illegal, only the BIOS and the Games which are downloaded
are more or less illegal. These would have to be copied from your own console with
special equipment... nobody does this in the time of internet.
Theoretically this things could be free to download if the copyright owner allows this.
There is also my idea, that Nintendo and others aren't interested in forbidding emulation
for some (not every) console and that's why they aren't fighting against emulation.
In Ouya you can download and install anything... So, doesn't matter if it's legal or not...
Has anyone tested the Interworks Controller Pro U (aka Retro Classic Controller) with the Ouya (or any Android device)? I'm especially interested in joystick functionality...
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I've sideloaded SNES9X emu, works good. Started playing chrono trigger, it nice it has an option to let joystick function as dpad.
I'm about to see n64oids performance on the ouya. If it does run smoothly then I guess I will be replaying Zelda oot
I personally prefer mupen64. Ouya is plenty powerful enough for it anyway
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Emulators, I hadn't even thought of that, now I'm really excited about the Ouya, mine should be arriving very soon... I think some companies turn a blind eye to very old emulated games because it keeps their IP popular, which for some franchises still has some value.
For now, i managed to work gba, nes, snes, genesis, psx and n64 emulators via sideloading and all worked smooth with posibility of assign hardware pad buttons to them
There are 3 emulators in the OUYA store.
1. EMUya for NES emulation with intergrated ROM store (I'm sure this won't go forever, pretty much illegal).
2. Mugen64 is an N64 emulator which works better than any N64 I tested before, plus it's already mapped to work with the OUYA controller and does so flawlessly. No lag whatsoever
3. 2 different SNES emulators which also work very good. One of them is already altered to work perfect with the OUYA the other one is a known one from the play store.
I got the ouya especially for emulation, because hooking up my Galaxy S3 via HDMI to the TV and using a PS3 wireless controller was too much of a hassle and had a crazy input lag. With the OUYA no input lags at all.
Feels like playing the real consoles. Finally.
So I just recently learned about how good of a deal the nook hd/hd+ were so I picked one up but wont be able to use it till after Christmas cause its a gift from my wife but I'm wandering if I made a good decision I will not be using it for reading but more for youtube Internet surfing and gaming but not anything crazy I usually play strategy games that have very minimal animation or maybe hill climb racing my question is, is it ok for gaming I know it has a nice screen but I dont want it to be laggy or slow while watching videos or gaming
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I'm wandering if I made a good decision I will not be using it for reading but more for youtube Internet surfing and gaming but not anything crazy . . . I dont want it to be laggy or slow while watching videos or gaming
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I'm running CM 10.1 on my Nook HD+, and just finished watching the last 9 races of the America's Cup on it (using the official America's Cup app from Google Play store). No problems at all, looked great. Watched a number of HD videos that I'd downloaded (e.g., Harvard Science and Cooking lectures). Fine all around, screen resolution is fantastic.
Not a big gamer, but have been playing Where's My Water (after watching my daughter play it) and a version of the old favorite Tetris. Again, graphics are fine, no lag issues.
I think you'll be very happy.
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I'm running CM 10.1 on my Nook HD+, and just finished watching the last 9 races of the America's Cup on it (using the official America's Cup app from Google Play store). No problems at all, looked great. Watched a number of HD videos that I'd downloaded (e.g., Harvard Science and Cooking lectures). Fine all around, screen resolution is fantastic.
Not a big gamer, but have been playing Where's My Water (after watching my daughter play it) and a version of the old favorite Tetris. Again, graphics are fine, no lag issues.
I think you'll be very happy.
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Yeah it will be nice to watch breaking bad on a bigger screen than my note 2
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timmyd463229 said:
So I just recently learned about how good of a deal the nook hd/hd+ were so I picked one up but wont be able to use it till after Christmas cause its a gift from my wife but I'm wandering if I made a good decision I will not be using it for reading but more for youtube Internet surfing and gaming but not anything crazy I usually play strategy games that have very minimal animation or maybe hill climb racing my question is, is it ok for gaming I know it has a nice screen but I dont want it to be laggy or slow while watching videos or gaming
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I bought one (hd+) about 3 months ago, and have been using CM10.2-sdcard as daily driver for about a couple of weeks. Reasonably fast for Netflix, Hulu-plus, Adobe Reader (PDFs with heavy graphics). Not sure about games. Not laggy at all for videos.
I have a Nook HD+ at my home, I gave it to my father. He lets my younger brother play with it all the time; playing various Google Play games, Nintendo 3DS ROMs and so much more. It's rarely ever used for reading at my home, other than when web browsing.
I would completely recommend a Nook HD+ for your entertainment purposes. It plays 1080p video files (.avi, .mp4 and .mkv are all what I've tested) perfectly fine using MX Player. Games work on it perfectly too, however, don't expect too many games to be compatible or expect to play the latest high-end graphical games. The three reasons for this is, firstly, the graphics performance of the tablet is not the greatest, but then again we can't expect it to be at a bargain price. Secondly the dual-core processor can't push as much as today's quad-cores can, and finally; many games and apps don't support the full 1080p resolution of the tablet (i.e. Sims FreePlay and other similar apps only support 720p or lower resolution screens). Of course, the last factor plays a major role but more apps are starting to support the higher resolution.
Games are compatible however, and you have a large selection on the Google Play store. The Nook should be able to run Hill Climb Racing, granted the game supports the 1080p resolution. If it does, the Nook will eat the game for breakfast. The games I've run on the tablet which was slow/laggy are Asphalt 7 and 8. FIFA 14 seems to run decent though.
Once you do open your Nook, remember to install CyanogenMod 10.1 stable (not nightly), of course by then we could have CM10.2 or even later. I used the Nook before the 2.0.10 update, and it was not worth having (no apps/games were installable, nor did Google Play come as standard). Once CyanogenMod was installed, it was a full fledged tablet, competing against the likes of the Nexus 7. Of course, with the 2.0.10 update, the Nook can now download Google Play apps. For the sake of Android, I would still recommend CyanogenMod however.
Once you install CyanogenMod, which is an easy process, you'll love your tablet. It should completely satisfy your entertainment needs.
I hope you enjoy it, and an early Merry Christmas.
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I have a Nook HD+ at my home, I gave it to my father. He lets my younger brother play with it all the time; playing various Google Play games, Nintendo 3DS ROMs and so much more. It's rarely ever used for reading at my home, other than when web browsing.
I would completely recommend a Nook HD+ for your entertainment purposes. It plays 1080p video files (.avi, .mp4 and .mkv are all what I've tested) perfectly fine using MX Player. Games work on it perfectly too, however, don't expect too many games to be compatible or expect to play the latest high-end graphical games. The three reasons for this is, firstly, the graphics performance of the tablet is not the greatest, but then again we can't expect it to be at a bargain price. Secondly the dual-core processor can't push as much as today's quad-cores can, and finally; many games and apps don't support the full 1080p resolution of the tablet (i.e. Sims FreePlay and other similar apps only support 720p or lower resolution screens). Of course, the last factor plays a major role but more apps are starting to support the higher resolution.
Games are compatible however, and you have a large selection on the Google Play store. The Nook should be able to run Hill Climb Racing, granted the game supports the 1080p resolution. If it does, the Nook will eat the game for breakfast. The games I've run on the tablet which was slow/laggy are Asphalt 7 and 8. FIFA 14 seems to run decent though.
Once you do open your Nook, remember to install CyanogenMod 10.1 stable (not nightly), of course by then we could have CM10.2 or even later. I used the Nook before the 2.0.10 update, and it was not worth having (no apps/games were installable, nor did Google Play come as standard). Once CyanogenMod was installed, it was a full fledged tablet, competing against the likes of the Nexus 7. Of course, with the 2.0.10 update, the Nook can now download Google Play apps. For the sake of Android, I would still recommend CyanogenMod however.
Once you install CyanogenMod, which is an easy process, you'll love your tablet. It should completely satisfy your entertainment needs.
I hope you enjoy it, and an early Merry Christmas.
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I read there are apps that make the games run at 720p so if they cant run 1080p it will be smoother
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Heavy 3D suffers a bit at the high resolution of the HD+, but general GUI and video always seem smooth to me.
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I read there are apps that make the games run at 720p so if they cant run 1080p it will be smoother
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That app creates instability and can create boot issues. Not worth it IMO, but already "took" my $2. This function is more suitable at kernel level and part of settings. Best IMO to avoid.
It is also a battery sucking mess in sleep mode. The app must constantly poll the chipset.
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That app creates instability and can create boot issues. Not worth it IMO, but already "took" my $2. This function is more suitable at kernel level and part of settings. Best IMO to avoid.
It is also a battery sucking mess in sleep mode. The app must constantly poll the chipset.
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Ok sounds good to me just use the apps that work and forget the ones that dont lol its not like there aren't a surplus of apps on the play store
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It is not as much the app as how it changes the resolution that is standard for all.
I got mine from Best Buy last week. It has 4.2 out of box and I plan on sticking with that due to emulators playing slower on 4.4 and 3rd party external writing killed. I am really liking the device more than expected. Here are IMO key points (good & bad).
+ Battery life and standby time are great
+ Display is very good for 720p
+ Controller works great
+ The key reason I like this design over using an external gamepad is the integration with apps. Huge plus.
+ All emulators tested work superbly: NES, GBC, GBA, PCE, Genesis, SNES, Neo Pocket, Amiga, C64, MAME, PSX, N64, DC, Wonderswan, Master System, Gamegear and DS. Playing Dead or Alive 2 with Reicast is super serious superb.
+ DoomGles is great and so are the Quake games. Those games and Android games are much better with the Shield controller.
+ I find myself going back to games I stopped playing due to the controls. Dual sticks for shooters is pure good.
+ Speakers are as everybody says. Very good.
- Wifi is robust, but sometimes stops working even though says still connected. I have a LOT of devices and this is the only one that has the issue.
- The 5" display is too small for MAME games that are designed for long portrait displays like most shootemups, Digdug, etc. At least with a tablet of phone you can rotate the display and not have black bars taking up a lot space.
- Not a Shield negative, but Google and their blatant attempt to passively aggressively kill off external storage. Even if emulator issues are fixed in the next Nvidia update, I will not bother due to this. I would rather not root, since means starting all over again and brick concerns. I vested some fairly serious time in setting everything up.
- I find games like Modern Combat and NOVA 3 too small on the display, so would expect PC games to be even more tiny. The Shield 2 could fit a 5.8" display and that would help. At least for the Android games. MC 4 and NOVA 3 both play great though, and ditto for Asphalt 8.
As far as a Shield 2:
1. At least a 5.5" display, but can stay at 720p. Better for game performance and battery.
2. Have a plugged in and battery mode option. Full tilt with fan when plugged into power and allow customizing if not.
3. 32GB flash. Goople's lame card killing effort compels this for a gaming device. Really.
4. K1, of course.
That is pretty much it. I would buy this again if just added the four things noted above. Shield would be a 10 if had a bigger display. 9/10 as is
They didnt kill writing to the sdcard completely. Apps can only write to their respective folders which no big deal how many games need to access a different games folder. You can still move apps to sd and you can still write anything you want to the sd card using a root explorer. As for The emulator slow downs they are so minor you cant really notice them. I had to update to 72 because it supports laptop streaming.
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They didnt kill writing to the sdcard completely. Apps can only write to their respective folders which no big deal how many games need to access a different games folder. You can still move apps to sd and you can still write anything you want to the sd card using a root explorer. As for The emulator slow downs they are so minor you cant really notice them. I had to update to 72 because it supports laptop streaming.
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The big issue is people are reporting zipped roms have issues as well as saves. A nice thing about the emulators is a resume mode that is relative to the rom folder. Since I have a bunch of roms, not practical to use internal for that. For people that say "Just leave all roms unzipped", that results in on average at least three times more storage space being needed. Even worse for PSX games, since in compressed PBP mode, the games average anywhere from 15MB to 600MB. In correct PSX image mode, a 15MB game is 700MB. Big difference.
Anyway, not a hit on Nvidia, but is with Android. The emulator issue is actually pretty bad to me, since results in game going from smooth to sporadic stutters with 4.4, depending in part on control pad use. Smooth to not smooth is not a good option, IMO. Kind of like using an old Tegra 2 again for emulators. Tegra 2 had some throttle issues, but not due to the OS. Tegra 3 (not Tegra 2) with my Excite 7.7 is smoother with most emulators than Shield with 4.4.
Added: I also have a S4 and Note 2014 and am leaving those on 4.2 as well. Not sure if the emulator issue is Shield specific, but do know the card write issue for all devices. 4.2 does what I need, so no desire to update and then have to go through the trouble and brick potential with rooting. Yes, this is an ironic perspective for an XDA forum.
Hmm thats odd i havent had any troubles with zipped roms on any emulation app. And i have a few. As for the sony pbps i hear you there. Its ridiculous how much filler are in those, i use to rip psp and psx games.
The shield is nearly unbrickable its almost ridiculous how well they did with that. No need for root to go back and forth from system firmwares, but you do have to have an unlocked bootloader which voids warranty although i had to return a rooted unlocked shield and they didnt give me any guff. Not trying to say upgrade to KK but i will say its not as bad as you think.
N64 emulation is superb? Mupen has a lot of N64 games which it cant handle. Granted I know this is an emulator issue, and not an issue with shield capability, but its still disappointing that android emulation hasn't advanced further.
I've read reps from Nvidia stating how surprised they were with emulation being such a popular feature with the Shield. Would it be illegal for Nvidia to work and release emulators, designed exclusively for the Shield, which emulate N64 and Dreamcast games? Considering Reicast and Mupen are allowed on the google play store I don't see why Nvidia can't release their own emulators.
I always thought the roms unzipped into RAM and there was no writing to the card for this process, but reports are some emulators have issues (saves being a key). MAME writes into it's parent directory and no special path can be created for the Android version. Given the 10GB size of my MAME roms, internal storage is not an option and losing settings for roms would mean redoing the settings every time the game is played. No thanks :silly:
As far as N64, I am referring to the control use with games. The PC version is about the same as far as what works, but using certain video plug-ins with Mupen makes a huge difference it what is playable. Mupen plays more games than N64oid as a result.
Going back to zipped file sizes, same thing for PSP, but not as big a ratio. ISO files on average are 50% bigger than compressed CSO files.
For me shield = massive paper weight
None of the games I would use it for on PC or android support it.
I'm thinking about buying either an Ouya or a Mojo as an emulator machine but i have a few questions about the MOJO.
To make it simple.... I love the Ouya and it would be perfect for me, i only wish it was a little more powerful... (for more fps on PSP games and San Andreas in high quality etc...)
So can i expect the Ouya on MOJO to run like a real Ouya and even more? Or is it only partially working?
Is there any way to hide the navigation bar when running an app or will there be soon? (maybe a Ouya app update or something?)
What would you guys suggest?
I'm really torn between those 2, some advice would be greatly appreciated!
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I'm thinking about buying either an Ouya or a Mojo as an emulator machine but i have a few questions about the MOJO.
To make it simple.... I love the Ouya and it would be perfect for me, i only wish it was a little more powerful... (for more fps on PSP games and San Andreas in high quality etc...)
So can i expect the Ouya on MOJO to run like a real Ouya and even more? Or is it only partially working?
Is there any way to hide the navigation bar when running an app or will there be soon? (maybe a Ouya app update or something?)
What would you guys suggest?
I'm really torn between those 2, some advice would be greatly appreciated!
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no not all ouya games are in mojo shop towerfall is not in the ouya everywhere shop
well i guess as long as all the emulators on Ouya work.... shouldn't be a problem sideloading any other app
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well i guess as long as all the emulators on Ouya work.... shouldn't be a problem sideloading any other app
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Emulators and media is about all its use full for so ur in luck me man, however I have had massive issues regarding storage space which might restrict how many ROMs u could use. Tbh ur better off getting a reliable tablet and a TV out cable
well a good tablet is expensive and ressources are wasted on battery saving etc....
i'm probably going to get a MOJO, but only if i can get rid of the navigation bar while running an app...
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well a good tablet is expensive and ressources are wasted on battery saving etc....
i'm probably going to get a MOJO, but only if i can get rid of the navigation bar while running an app...
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I think there's apps that removes it after rooting it.. it doesn't bother me so I haven't checked.
Re ouya everywhere, people where saying the frame work crashes, it might have been fixed, I don't like ouya so haven't checked.
well ouya has got some really cool stuff for emulators, like the Nostalgia app regrouping all your emulators etc... and it's nice to change from the stock android, but the specs are really ****ty... anyway, i found some ways to hide the navigation bar and stumbled upon your website where you shared your thoughts about the MOJO while google-ing and it pretty much convinced me to buy one... the ouya won't last long with specs so low
MOJO or Fire TV
Should I buy a Mad Catz MOJO or Fire TV? I'm a android enthusiast and I own an OUYA. The Mad Catz MOJO would be a perfect device for me having all that power inside. Tegra 4 with 2GB of ram sounds impressive for a Micro Console not to mention the nice controller. Now I've noticed the Fire TV is able to install the Play Store which basically solves the problem of not having to buy all of my apps again. Fire TV from what I've seen is pretty powerful, but you don't get all that Tegra goodness. $99 plus controller vs. $199 with controller. We need more Mad Catz MOJO videos on Youtube because there are some more games I want to see running.
well you can install google play store on the MOJO and it's only 150$ now, plus you can install the Ouya App so you get the best of both worlds!
@Energizing, yeah the ouya 16GB compared to the MOJO is a no brainer IMO.
The Amazon fireTV compared to MOJO, could ague either way..
The biggest draw back on the mojo is not having kitkat, which means we're stuck on late 2013 game releases instead of having the newer games like shield1 has.
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We need more Mad Catz MOJO videos on Youtube because there are some more games I want to see running.
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Been playing a bit of oldschool OpenArena (ouya apk version), I got GTA 3, just ran out of ideas, I'll do a video or two!
Probably not a whole bunch of fans of Bigfish games but I love them What I am wondering is if it's possible to get the same Bigfish Game Manager on my Fire 7", 9th Generation? I looked around after reading about downloading from Google Playstore, which of course I have on my tablet, but all they have as an app is not the same as the Game Manager on my Windows 10 Desktop. So, I can't even download one of my games I've purchased online and own now.
I know Kindle can download from outside source, but I am thinking only Android versions of apps, and not the full version of Bigfish Games.
Hope this makes sense as I really haven't a clue. Thanks in advance for any help Here's a link to the bigfish website that might be helpful, although no info on getting the "actual" Game Manager, only Big Fish Casino:
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