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[Q] Is the Kindle Fire still "hackable"?

Hi!
I have read a few posts about the Kindle fire now being locked from rooting(if I have understood them correctly).
As I have an unopened device at home that I'm givning myself for christmas I have a few questions.
1. Is there an update that makes my untouched Kindle Fire un-rootable?
2. Will this update install automatically when connected to Wi-Fi?
3. Is it the bootloader that is locked or will it be rootable/able to install other ROM's in the future?
Would very much appreciate if someone took some time and answered these questions. I would also appreciate if someone could make some kind of summary. Read a lot on the forum but i am still a bit confused about the current status.
/Masssy
Edit: Read on some more about it and I believe that is is thr 6.2.1 update that screws things up.
Does that make me able to not enable Wi-Fi and then flash CM7 before even using WiFi on the device? That should make it fully hackable with ICS etc in the future, right?

Masssy said:
Hi!
I have read a few posts about the Kindle fire now being locked from rooting(if I have understood them correctly).
As I have an unopened device at home that I'm givning myself for christmas I have a few questions.
1. Is there an update that makes my untouched Kindle Fire un-rootable?
2. Will this update install automatically when connected to Wi-Fi?
3. Is it the bootloader that is locked or will it be rootable/able to install other ROM's in the future?
Would very much appreciate if someone took some time and answered these questions. I would also appreciate if someone could make some kind of summary. Read a lot on the forum but i am still a bit confused about the current status.
/Masssy
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If it was me i would root it and install titanium using ADB before i connect it to wifi then freeze or uninstall the otasilentinstall app.
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you could rename or move the OTA certs, and change the hosts file as well if your paranoid about it.
apparantly they are pushing the update even if the device isnt registered with amazon.
Check this thread

6.2.1 breaks root and prevents the only method anybody has used so far. Another method will most likely surface. That said, there is a pre-rooted 6.2.1 ROM, the Fire semi supports android market in Silk in the latest update, and installing CM7 totally gets rid of any Amazon stuff.
You’re best bet is to disable wifi or block the amazon server in your host file.

Winglerw28 said:
6.2.1 breaks root and prevents the only method anybody has used so far. Another method will most likely surface. That said, there is a pre-rooted 6.2.1 ROM, the Fire semi supports android market in Silk in the latest update, and installing CM7 totally gets rid of any Amazon stuff.
You’re best bet is to disable wifi or block the amazon server in your host file.
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I'm going to open it up when I am away for christmas. Although, I have no use for starting to use WiFi on it that day.
Just keeping WiFi off and then root+CM7 directly when I'm home should be smartest, right?
Edit: I'm not after the Amazon crap anyway since I'm from Sweden.

[Q] rooted Samsung S4 -i9500 su update problems

i have the S4 16 GB, i rooted according to an article posted on here
when i try to access the SuperSU file, it says that i need to install a new update but the installation failed
i have tried to update it thru Google Play (along with other methods like Busybox and Titanium Root and many others) <---- DOES NOT WORK (unless i did something wrong)
the problem is that i cannot UNINSTALL the Superus from my phone.
if there are no other solutions, how do i UNROOT the phone so everything can go back to where i first got it? (im desperate!)
Im a newbie so please bear with me
Thanks!
OH! and Google Play wont let me purchase any PAID APPS either because it says the transaction is at high risk. any suggestion why?

rooted Samsung S4 -i9500 su update problems
kle0801 said:
i have the S4 16 GB, i rooted according to an article posted on here
when i try to access the SuperSU file, it says that i need to install a new update but the installation failed
i have tried to update it thru Google Play (along with other methods like Busybox and Titanium Root and many others) <---- DOES NOT WORK (unless i did something wrong)
the problem is that i cannot UNINSTALL the Superus from my phone.
if there are no other solutions, how do i UNROOT the phone so everything can go back to where i first got it? (im desperate!)
Im a newbie so please bear with me
Thanks!
OH! and Google Play wont let me purchase any PAID APPS either because it says the transaction is at high risk. any suggestion why?
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If u want ur device like b4 flash proper firmware for ur device it will make it as good as it was
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265477&highlight=stock+firmware
After flasing the stock using ODIN
Below is the link for rooting easy way
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292615
Hope this helps

Fire HD 6 Root success with KingRoot APK

Hi!
Today, while doing my daily reading blogs, I found an article by El Android Libre (in spanish) of an app for rooting Android devices quickly, so I decided to try it on my own and effectively, the application success to root my Fire HD 6!. His name is KingRoot. I'm very excited, it worked, and so far I have not noticed errors in the operation of my tablet (at least, today). I could say that this is the ultimate solution to root the Fire HD 6.
WARNING: This is a Chinese application, so I can not guarantee that it 100% safe to use . IF YOU INSTALL THIS, IT IS AT YOUR OWN RISK. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR BUGS, BOOTLOOPS OR SOFTBRICKS..
Antivirus information:
If the antivirus software on your tablet shows this application as a virus, it is evident: for root you device, this app made a series of exploits to the operating system, and obviously the antivirus will display warnings before or during the process
I hope this can be useful to someone.
(Sorry for my English, I am using Google translator)
UPDATE 12-05-2015 02:01 AM
This process is not yet totally safe and we have very little information. Indeed, it is possible to root the Fire HD 6/7, but there's a very high risk of the device is unable to boot.
Unroot instructions:
Open the KingUser app
Press the Settings button (upper right corner)
Then press the "Remove Permission Root" option
Confirm and wait a few minutes.
Reboot

Yay!!! Thank you for posting this, I will try it now

great news! plz report how it goes thx.

Made a quick vid. Thanks for the info! How to Root Fire HD6: www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcQ30qcImJc

at last my hd6 is rooted now thx

Trying it on my HD7 now. Are we forced to use the king superuser or can we switch to superSu after?

skyhopper88 said:
Trying it on my HD7 now. Are we forced to use the king superuser or can we switch to superSu after?
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The SU binary will be saved in the /system/bin folder after rooting the Fire HD 6, so I think that while this binary is not deleted you can use any other app for root management like SuperSu.

Suh-weeeet! Can confirm, works on HD7!

Confirmed, my HD6 (well, my mother's HD6) is now rooted :3

I seem to have lost root on reboot though
Or maybe it's because I un-installed the app?
Now to figure out how to get the Play Store working...

dmillerw said:
I seem to have lost root on reboot though
Or maybe it's because I un-installed the app?
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I restarted my Fire several times throughout the day and still root.
What is the app you've uninstalled?
Here is a screenshot of Root Checker on my tablet right now.

Yeah, it's because I uninstalled KingRoot. Need to get SuperSU in here... somehow

dmillerw said:
Yeah, it's because I uninstalled KingRoot. Need to get SuperSU in here... somehow
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Well, I try sideload SuperSu directly on my Fire but when I open it, the app ask me to update the su binaries, and a few seconds later shows me an error...
Any suggestions?

Has anyone successfully installed the Google Play Store?

Unfortunately, no. Android root stuff isn't something I'm too familiar with. I think we've still got a long way to go...

So what does the development road look like from here? Do we need a custom recovery before any roms start coming?
Thanks for this, I am excited to get home and play with my tablet!

argrr101 said:
So what does the development road look like from here? Do we need a custom recovery before any roms start coming?
Thanks for this, I am excited to get home and play with my tablet!
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That's my understanding

argrr101 said:
So what does the development road look like from here? Do we need a custom recovery before any roms start coming?
Thanks for this, I am excited to get home and play with my tablet!
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merlise said:
Has anyone successfully installed the Google Play Store?
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dmillerw said:
Unfortunately, no. Android root stuff isn't something I'm too familiar with. I think we've still got a long way to go...
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It seems you need to install an advanced recovery. The recovery that is built into our Fire does not allow flash apps, only allows to make a factory rese ...
The problem is that if you installed a wrong recovery, can bricking the system. Not sure if CWM Recovery works here.

andersonsalas said:
It seems you need to install an advanced recovery. The recovery that is built into our Fire does not allow flash apps, only allows to make a factory rese ...
The problem is that if you installed a wrong recovery, can bricking the system. Not sure if CWM Recovery works here.
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I'm wondering how similar this Kindle is to the previous version software wise. Maybe some of the older methods will work now we have root?

This is the situation right now:
It is now possible to root the Fire HD 6 (and 7, as I'm reading)
The root is persistent while you don't uninstall the KingRoot app.
For now, you can not install the SuperSU app (throws an error)
Installing System Tuner Pro gives you the ability to uninstall system applications, review the logs of the kernel, modify the file build.prop, among other things (Other apps can also be used for do this...).
It is not possible (for now) install Gapps until to find an advanced recovery that it works with this tablet. Despite this, you can install some Google apps like YouTube, Google, and Google Search taking an alternative way. Read this thread for more information:
(Yes, there is still road ahead ...)

[ROOT] I might have accidentally achieved root.

Well. I got root access on my Kindle Fire 4th Gen. (running 5.1.1)
Uhm, it wasn't really intentional though, and i'm not entirely sure if this thread will help you.
Reason for me even writing this is that I haven't seen a single successful root with this device yet.
I got KingRoot 4.62 to work somehow.
This is exactly what I did:
1. Got KR 4.62 from http://androidmtk.com/download-kingroot-application
2. Ran it, it failed once.
3. Out of frustration, after it restarted, I ran it again.
4. Looked away for 1/2 a second and VOILA
ROOT!
Thanks for reading through this, I know I haven't been very helpful, but i'm flipping out about achieving root
Maybe I helped you even?
UPDATE: After a little fiddling, I managed to remove KR, using a script (forgot where I found it) and managed to do pretty much everything a rooted device could do!

It works
Thanks you. Only thing now : How can I get Twrp or Cwm?

Fire 7 HD ROOT
I just GOT ROOT on the Fire HD 7 as follows:
- Got KR 4.8.1 136 from same url as mentioned in above post
Installed and Ran..... On first attempt it stopped at around 20% and rebooted the device.
UPON Reboot I launched KR again and it began at 20% and then gave a fail with the option to RETRY.
Upon RETRY......100% Successful ROOT.......

thxs @ all,
after months waiting to root my fire 7 hd, 4th. gen, I followed the steps and after 5 or 6 intends, I rooted the device!
now I would like to reeplace Kigroot with Supersu.
somebody has done it?
thks for helping!

stukka2006 said:
thxs @ all,
after months waiting to root my fire 7 hd, 4th. gen, I followed the steps and after 5 or 6 intends, I rooted the device!
now I would like to reeplace Kigroot with Supersu.
somebody has done it?
thks for helping!
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There is a very thorough write-up on how to do just that on a Fire Phone. I don't know what changes would be necessary to achieve the same thing on the HD 7 but it's worth a look.
Edit: Just re-read through that thread. I'd forgotten that there is a script that apparently works with other devices as well.

stukka2006 said:
thxs @ all,
after months waiting to root my fire 7 hd, 4th. gen, I followed the steps and after 5 or 6 intends, I rooted the device!
now I would like to reeplace Kigroot with Supersu.
somebody has done it?
thks for helping!
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There is an app called super sume that will consume all the kingroot stuff and replace King user with superSU. It costs $1 dollar on the app store but if you look around on the web hard enough you can find it for free.

droidboy29 said:
There is an app called super sume that will consume all the kingroot stuff and replace King user with superSU. It costs $1 dollar on the app store but if you look around on the web hard enough you can find it for free.
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thks!
I installed the nova launcher and set it as main launcher.
I´m happy with the new look, battery is OK
Also glad to install stuff with no problems at all.
Really looks like a different device.

droidboy29 said:
There is an app called super sume that will consume all the kingroot stuff and replace King user with superSU. It costs $1 dollar on the app store but if you look around on the web hard enough you can find it for free.
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one question,
have you done it?
I am afraid to do it because is working fine with kingroot

update:
I tried yesterday to change kingroot with supersu.
I did not work
the device got unrooted as soon supersume deleted kingroot and installed supersu.
so I had to reset and start from the beginning.
back to kingroot
google play installed thogether with amazon.
everything works fine again.

FireOS 5.3.2.1 rollbacks

FYI - early indications 5.3.2.1 -> 5.3.1.0 rollbacks are problematic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/fireos-5-3-2-arrived-t3500922/post70052733

Here as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/fireos-5-3-2-arrived-t3500922/post70061090

Bricked mine too. It shows up as a USB COM port and spits out "READYREADYREADYREADY" until it disconnects itself. I think this means it should be possible to restore 5.3.2.1 via sp flash tool (or maybe another serial loader). If we can get the right files
Attached a scatter file I found online for the MTK8127 chipset, which fire has. No idea if it's right. SP tool for some reason won't keep the com port open...

kaysond said:
Bricked mine too. It shows up as a USB COM port and spits out "READYREADYREADYREADY" until it disconnects itself. I think this means it should be possible to restore 5.3.2.1 via sp flash tool (or maybe another serial loader). If we can get the right files
Attached a scatter file I found online for the MTK8127 chipset, which fire has. No idea if it's right. SP tool for some reason won't keep the com port open...
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scatter files haven't worked, with any firmware versions
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see http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/unbrick-fire-7-5th-gen-downgrade-t3388747
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Yeah, I got the READYREADYREADYREADYREADY brick that I was expecting. Three tablets, got two of them rooted and OTA blocked, then had an emergency and the third apparently wasn't actually Off so it happily ****ed me.
There's never been a recovery from the READYREADYREADY firmware loader, I'd assume? Deciding if I should keep or toss this one. At least this ****'s cheap since we don't actually own it.

I just got an Amazon Fire and am new to this whole thing. Ultimately I'd love to root it, and install a different ROM. But in the short term, I'm just playing with installing the Play Store and turning off lock screen ads. Anyway, I just opened the package up today, and I let it update itself to 5.3.2.1 before I was aware that this might cause me trouble.
I did download the SuperTool here:
http://rootjunkysdl.com/files/?dir=SuperTool
I successfully installed the Play Store. I next tried disabling the lock screen ads, but the tool said I would need to root first. When I selected the option to do that, it asked for my FireOS version, but didn't give 5.3.2.1 as an option. So I'm afraid to go through the root process.
It sounds like downgrading to an earlier version will brick this. What about rooting it with a tool like the one I downloaded? Is that likely to cause trouble as well? Is there much I can do with this currently?

There's no known way (yet) to flash 5.3.2.1 back to something earlier, that's true (and some who got hit by a brick will confirm).
There's also no known success (yet) rooting this, but since KingRoot is evolving, there may be hope. There are multiple releases of KR around, and the cloud part (where the methods are kept) seem to be constantly changing - if you decide to keep the Fire, you may as well spend some time trying to get it rooted... KR versions 4.8.5, 4.9.2, 4.9.6 have been suggested; if you decide to use KR 5, you will have to remove it from the list of device administrators before replacing it with SuperSU - of course only if you're successful. We're all waiting for RootJunky to release a new SuperTool that will possibly automate this - ATM Nov 29 is still the latest version available...

Does the RootJunky SuperTool just use KR under the hood? I'll have to keep an eye on this. I don't mind getting my hands a bit messy on this, but I don't want to be blazing a new trail. I'm not experienced enough with it. I don't mind waiting a bit to get some hand holding.

komi_9 said:
Does the RootJunky SuperTool just use KR under the hood?
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It does:
Code:
$ grep -ri kingroot.apk .
./1-Amazon-Fire-5th-gen.bat:files\adb.exe install -r apps\Kingroot.apk
./3-Amazon-Fire-5th-gen-linux-mac.sh: sudo $ADB install -r apps/Kingroot.apk
SuperTool is a zip file - and the "magic" is done in human-readable scripts (bat or bash). Firmware bin files are zips too. Open them in your fav archive tool, and inspect what's inside.
tl;dr: ST installs whatever you put into apps/Kingroot.apk - watch out for Spelnig when replacing the version coming with ST with another one you have dl'ed from apkmirror.

hope this works! Thanks for the good work guys

dmerillat said:
Yeah, I got the READYREADYREADYREADYREADY brick that I was expecting. Three tablets, got two of them rooted and OTA blocked, then had an emergency and the third apparently wasn't actually Off so it happily ****ed me.
There's never been a recovery from the READYREADYREADY firmware loader, I'd assume? Deciding if I should keep or toss this one. At least this ****'s cheap since we don't actually own it.
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I'm fairly certain you can still write to the flash memory from that loader, just a matter of figuring out how. There's a python script that I think will work as long as you figure out what to write...

So..there is no way to Root or downgrade 5.3.2.1??

At this moment there isn't, sorry. But tools are not static, and there's even the chance that a future fireOS upgrade will be easier to root. You've got the choice to return your Fire while/if still on warranty or wait for better days to come.
Edit: I have read rumours that KingRoot would now be able to root 5.1.3 - this, of course, may be due to the usual number confusion (and 5.3.1 was meant).
On the other hand, the patch level of 5.3.2.1 might not include DirtyCow attacks yet:
Code:
ro.build.version.security_patch=2016-10-05
and indeed I saw RootJunky add some DC stuff to his download site... There might be something around the corner, indeed.

Confirm, even hardbrick if flash from 5.3.2.1 to 5.3.2

I just used the supertool on the same model Fire tab, on 12/27/16. Here's what I've learned:
1. Amazon will indeed remove offers/ads from the discounted Fire, without cost, if you ask.
2. Supertool uses KingRoot, as of my download date.
3. Supertool was not successful in removing ads, but did install the Play Store. It did prevent OTA updates, but the root didn't work for me, so I reloaded original firmware and of course it updated right away. Next time I would try to root after registering my Fire with Amazon.
4. It aopeared to me that the Supertool attempted a downgrade (5.1.1?) before rooting, so if downgrading will brick a device running 5.3.2.1, then I think the answer to the OP's question is "no".
related question: Knowing all the above, can I still re-try the Supertool option #1, and (re)install the Play Store and remove ads? (I bought 3 of them Amazon removed ads on 1 of them so far.))

rallison203 said:
I just used the supertool on the same model Fire tab, on 12/27/16. Here's what I've learned:
1. Amazon will indeed remove offers/ads from the discounted Fire, without cost, if you ask.
2. Supertool uses KingRoot, as of my download date.
3. Supertool was not successful in removing ads, but did install the Play Store. It did prevent OTA updates, but the root didn't work for me, so I reloaded original firmware and of course it updated right away. Next time I would try to root after registering my Fire with Amazon.
4. It aopeared to me that the Supertool attempted a downgrade (5.1.1?) before rooting, so if downgrading will brick a device running 5.3.2.1, then I think the answer to the OP's question is "no".
related question: Knowing all the above, can I still re-try the Supertool option #1, and (re)install the Play Store and remove ads? (I bought 3 of them Amazon removed ads on 1 of them so far.))
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- SuperTool does not attempt a FireOS rollback
- 5.1.1 refers to underlying Android build
- Amazon will (reluctantly) remove ads from ONE device registered to an account
- KingRoot works best if device is NOT registered with Amazon
- at present KingRoot is not effective against FireOS 5.3.2+

Thanks for responding, sorry for any misinformation, I'm quite a noob. So - if the supertool doesnt rollback, do you think I'd have trouble retrying the ad removal tool while running 5.3.2.1. ?

rallison203 said:
Thanks for responding, sorry for any misinformation, I'm quite a noob. So - if the supertool doesnt rollback, do you think I'd have trouble retrying the ad removal tool while running 5.3.2.1. ?
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Don't see any significant risks with rerunning but also don't think it will be fully effective on an unrooted device.

Is this probably the best thread to follow if I want to be notified when it's possible to root 5.3.2.1?

valzi said:
Is this probably the best thread to follow if I want to be notified when it's possible to root 5.3.2.1?
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I hope so, I'm certainly subscribed