Hello to all Streak owners
I've just bought a Streak that requires a new screen, and whilst replacing that I will be looking into replacing / upgrading the 2gb internal Micro SD card.
Now I've read some threads on here and believe you have to set it up correctly as it only recognises 2gb at a time, but thats not my query now, I'll find the info and if not then I'll post for help.
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My question is with Micro SD cards getting ever cheaper, and faster, higher performance ones dropping also in price, is it worth going in for these faster, higher performance cards???
Either for general Micro SD storage or internal storage, replacing the 2gb.
I know it seems common sense, by putting a faster or higher performance card in, should make it faster. But...
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Can the Streak make full use of the higher performance, faster cards?
When do you reach the point of overkill, or diminishing returns?
Can the streak support higher speed technology? (I believe I read somewhere that in fact the lower class cards were faster, although I don't understand this) If this is correct, someone please explain...
Ideally I'd like to know what is the fastest card the Streak can make use of? And what Micro SD technologies it can support?
Also if anyone has real world speeds for cards, (as I understand, often the numbers, classes manufacturers quote often mean nothing, compared to how they actually perform) or preferred manufacturers they could recommend, or links to tests, benchmarks, reviews etc.
Many, Many, Many thanks to this site and all its contributors,
I've used this site for many years, back when I had an XDA II from O2, lost / forgot that username, then again when got MDA Tmobile, AKA (Blueangel), but I don't post much as usually I'm able to find what I want, buy searching on the site or by xyz or whatever I want site:xda-developers.com in a popular search engine.
Best wishes and Seasons Greetings to you all,
John
Keep this in mind: at a certian point even if the card is compatable, the controller on the device itself will eventually be the bottleneck. Would this be the case? I have no idea, but adding in a faster card then the stock one has shown benefits.
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Looking at getting a SD card for the XDAII, but there seems to be different types out there.
Normal, say sandisk, 32x lexar, 65x sandisk.
They all quote different transfers speeds from 1.5 - 10 MB/sec, but can the XDA II utilize this. Would i be better off getting the faster ones, or cheaper one, if in the real world they all run the same?
Any difference in makes?
Anyone have opinions experiences on this one?
cheers
Yeah,there is a big difference in write/read speed on differents mmc-sd cards!
Try to search closely on tis forum about it..
of course..Faster is better.
Regards
i was just thinking if i could get sd card pinouts and then match them with sata drive pinouts basically data in data out and power is required but like everybody i won't want to burn my lovely handset , someone must be thinking of it right now.
geeze how much storage do you want?
what you going to do with 4 gigs of storage, 2 gig SD card is bad enough for stable partitions
If iPod users can find something to do with all that space, so can PDA users. >_>
(In any case, OP, I think there's nobody here that can answer your question, since tech minded people don't come around here often. Try posting in the Upgrading/Modifying/Unlocking forums. You *MIGHT* get more help there.)
Ultimate Chicken said:
If iPod users can find something to do with all that space, so can PDA users. >_>
(In any case, OP, I think there's nobody here that can answer your question, since tech minded people don't come around here often. Try posting in the Upgrading/Modifying/Unlocking forums. You *MIGHT* get more help there.)
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well if you own an ipod i guess i was correct about you then.
you fly that flag loud and proud !
I don't own an 'Pod. However, I have replaced a battery on someone else's. Once.
Guy I did it for tells me 20gig isn't enough for his collection. <_<
In any case, I don't have any trouble with 2gig - I can barely fill up half with my stuff as it is (Unless I'm using the PS emulator, but that's another story).
Oh, and keep trollin', soldier.
i have prob with storage, too
2bg are not enough for sure
especially when you have such a games or programs like:
syberia ~200mb
tomtom -''-
and when you do some job which needs to save your important data (such as presentations, ebooks, documents, ...)
and when your life is not just business life but fun and entertainment life also, and you need some free sd space for music (at least 0,5gb).
putting HDD in some future models of htc is not so good move (check Samsung's i300 model fiasco). battery life: 3-4h, noise, weight:more then 150g smart and probably more then 250gr pocketpc), short life, no repairs, no replaements/warranty,...
1. question: what is the maximum sd card size for the Magician.
I have 1gb Apacer card. works well.
2. question: Any realtions sd card size - battery life??
yeah
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there is 8gb sd card now in market and 16 gb is soon coming or may be out and some guy put two 4gb nano memories together to make it 8 gb (ipod hacking), there could be some logic to put chips together if only i could get some notes on sd card inner's
I'm using a 4Gb SD card which so far is working just fine.
Do you use a MicroSD? What kind? I'm shopping for one and can use some suggestions... From cheap to expensive... Preferably cheap (;
16gb or 32gb
Class rating, I'm not sure. Are there any consideration for this on the tablet?
Ordering from NewEgg so if you have a link for one there, post'em.
Don't go too cheap. With stuff like this you do get what you pay for to some extent.
Sandisk, Patriot, Kingston, PNY, Sony etc are all brands I've had luck with. At present I've got a 16GB PNY. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178378
I got it for a higher price a while back, but no problems here in my Gtablet, A500, PC or either of my 2 laptops, one of which runs Debian 6.0
I get mine from Amazon, since I get free 2 day shipping with Amazon Prime. Picked up a Sandisk for a little over $56.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003WGJYCY
Is there a difference between SD and SDHC? And what about class?
Heres what im looking at-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220547&Tpk=microsd
2x32gb for 80'ish which seems like a good deal to me considering 1 goes for near 70... or am i reading that wrong... wife could use one for her hand me down archos 101.
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Is there a difference between SD and SDHC? And what about class?
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SD is limited to 2GB, SDHC was the newer standard, supporting up to 32GB. SDXC is the newest, but I don't think there is a micro form factor yet and I don't imagine our devices have SDXC controllers in them. I may boycott SDXC for using proprietary exFAT as the recommended filesystem too.
Class is a speed based thing. Class = minimum write speed in MB/s(technically a multiple of 8Mbps). So Class 2 = 2MB/s. Class 10 = 10MB/s. Write speeds. Keep in mind reads will be faster usually.
Awesome, thanks for that concise explanation.
Does the tablet have a maximum class rating? Will it bottleneck on class 10? I'm looking at the class 6 as a minimum.
Well, maybe class 4... I just want to store my music on it and have it as some extra storage. Class 4 should be fast enough, eh? I wont be moving apps to it - ill keep those on the primary storage. But for playing music, accessing pictures, class 4 seems like it would fast enough for that.
Thoughts?
Folks,
Also, I have been using SDHC's and microSDHCs for a while now and it
has been my experience that sometimes there a little incompatibilities.
Even good brands sometimes don't seem to work for some reason.
I'm saying, pick your best choice, but that doesn't GUARANTEE it
will work. Need a little good fortune also!!!
Rev
Okay, I'm ordering:
Kingston 16GB Micro SDHC Flash Card w/USB Reader Model MRG2+SDC4/16GB
$32.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139195&cm_re=microsd-_-20-139-195-_-Product
I wouldn't pay any extra for anything beyond class 6 or so for a tablet. If a 10 was on special for a really good price maybe, or if you shared it with a camera that needed a class 10 maybe get one.
I suppose we could port hdparm or bonnie to our tabs and run it from adb shell or busybox and see if different class cards got different rates.
I got my SD card a few days ago - the one I linked to two posts up.
Plugged it in (has a usb sleeve) and moved a few songs onto it, put it in the tablet, started the tab, started Google Music and it saw them all. Shut down, moved about 8 gig of music onto the card, plugged it back into the tab, booted, launched Music, took a few seconds but it saw them all, played some and everything is golden.
I'll check in if I ever have any issues.
Thanks for the help folks!
I realize you already got your card, but figured I'd throw in one extra piece of info in the event that anyone stumbles upon this thread in a search at a later date.
You asked a question about class and an early poster provided some great info about what SD card classes mean. I think it's important to note that the class you need depends on the intended usage of the card. High speed cards (those with high class ratings) are most important for applications that require you to write large amounts of data in short amounts of time. The best example of this is photography. Rapidly taking high resolution images requires that a ton of data be written to a storage medium very quickly. As such, you'll see class ten cards in a lot of cameras.
If you intend to do things like store documents, music, etc. on the card - primarily for consumption - you don't need high speed.
One thing to note - if you write to the card a bunch (throw a few new hd movies on there every couple days) you will appreciate a better write speed. Also, picking up a higher speed card means that it can be used for a number of different applications (sharing with a camera for example). Given that there often is only a slight difference in price between a low speed and a higher speed it's usually a better deal to get a higher speed card (the flexibility and time savings are worth a few extra dollars).
Good info. Thanks for chiming in!
just a small FYI ...
with froyo ... SDcard IS SDcard & you can APP2SD or used what I have sworn by -->> MOD INSTALL LOCATION ( in phone forums )...etc
Now.. we have HONEYCOMB... and it partition a little differently. ( although I believed it's the manufacturers that have the final saying... based on the comparision between the Acer & the Asus )
the 2 read your physical SDcard like this:
Asus -->> REMOVABLE
Acer -->> EXT microSD
Your EXT SDcard is only good for storing data/medias ...etc ( currently apps cannot be install on the physical card.
your whole internal is actually partitioned into 2 areas
/ 1 small part for the OS/ROM ..etc
/ the LEFTOVER is actually read as THE SDcard !!!
use a file manager and explore the directories structure to see what I mean !!
so ... 2 future solutions:
1/ XDA DEVs will find a way to let us install to a preferred location. ( and they will !!... in due time )
2/ application developers just have to write their new programs to accommodate Honeycomb ..etc
Hello guys,
I'm looking for experts which could suggest me a microSD card of at least 32GB, with the fastest random read & write times.
I don't care about the sequential speeds which the manufacturers use for their advertising, random read & write is more important (which never gets advertised) for smartphones if you care about the faster usage of programms/games etc.
Did anyone test by himself or know a test from somewhere, where microSD cards exclusively got tested in a S4? I really look for the "perfect" card, with the fastest random read/write times as possible.
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I am attempting to locate the interface specification for the microSD card slot in the Galaxy S7/Edge such that I can restrict my search for cards that meet - but preferably don't exceed - the maximum throughput for which the device is capable.
As such, I've been trying to find if Samsung has published any interface specifications for their microSD card slot - to no avail.
Has anyone come across a definitive statement for this?
As an example of what this specification might reveal is (among others) whether or not the device can support UHS-II storage, or if that would simply be throwing away additional money for no gain
So far all I've been able to find is the rating for the maximum addressable storage, at 200GB.
Thanks to anyone who has can direct me to such a document.
-afh3
Hey, did you find out anything more? I'm in the same situation and was looking for a microsd to keep stuck inside the phone. I don't think I'll need a super expensive one, but was wondering if anyone knows or has some real information on this phone's microsd slot spec and performance.
I'm most likely going to get a Samsung EVO+ 64GB $20 since it gets good reviews on random small read and writes.
edit: The phone's microsd slot is faster than USB 2.0. I found a good thread here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/accessories/suggestions-microsd-t3321569
Ahh, the same one you replied, LOL.
I might look for faster ones than the EVO+ now. The sequential 20MB/s seems kind of slow compared to what others can do, but it has excellent random write speed. Hmm... searching for a good deal now.
Nope. But I did find this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/accessories/suggestions-microsd-t3321569
From that thread, the empirical evidence indicates that your best bet will be a card with the UHS-I bus and a speed rating of U3.
I'm going with the either the SanDisk Extreme Plus (64 GB max) or the Samsung Pro+ 128 GB as they meet both ratings.