[Q] New developer in the making... - Epic 4G General

I've decided to try be a contributor to this community however im already stumbled on my first step which is how do I get Eclipse installed and working. I've googled this and I get outdated links, download wrong Java packages etc. So if someone could spell it out with links below. That would be much appreciated!

Lols
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Watch this video, should explain how to set it up.

You don't install Eclipse, it's a stand alone package rolled up in a zip/tar file. You extract it, double-click on the .exe (if windows) and it will run.
http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/eclipse-classic-371/indigosr1

austin420 said:
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STFU, at the least the guy is trying. Contribute or get out of here.
OP: Are you trying to write apps, or develop ROM / port things for the phone.
If you're trying to write apps, this might a good reference point:
http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/projects/projects-eclipse.html
However, this may not be the right forum if you're trying to learn how to do that.
If you want to make ROMs or port.... that's considerably tougher and you usually don't use Eclipse for that....

ddrbeastappv1 said:
I've decided to try be a contributor to this community however im already stumbled on my first step which is how do I get Eclipse installed and working. I've googled this and I get outdated links, download wrong Java packages etc. So if someone could spell it out with links below. That would be much appreciated!
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Google Search has been most helpful for me for porting MIUI. Also, if you can't find what you're looking for on google, go to webchat.irondust.net and join the #epic room. Devs can help you there, but google first please.

jnadke said:
STFU, at the least the guy is trying. Contribute or get out of here.
OP: Are you trying to write apps, or develop ROM / port things for the phone.
If you're trying to write apps, this might a good reference point:
http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/projects/projects-eclipse.html
However, this may not be the right forum if you're trying to learn how to do that.
If you want to make ROMs or port.... that's considerably tougher and you usually don't use Eclipse for that....
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Don't really care about this guy. At least I got my answer. Tysm for the video link. The first thing the video discusses is how confusing it is to get started just trying to download JDK.
Secondly, I plan on first making some basic apps and understanding the way Android works. Then, possibly may go more advanced with themeing and such.
Lastly, I want to point out I'm not alone in this post. YES you can GOOGLE what I asked for in this thread. Hardly any of your search results you get back from Google will be clear and concise and I appreciate some people understanding that not everyone is fluent in the ways of Android development.
I flashed mostly everything interesting on these forums whether its roms or themes or mods. I look up to the developers at ACS among all the others.
I believe this is a relevant post and a lot of people feel the same way I do.
Thank you.

I am also heading down this path. Do you have programming experience?
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ddrbeastappv1 said:
Don't really care about this guy. At least I got my answer. Tysm for the video link. The first thing the video discusses is how confusing it is to get started just trying to download JDK.
Secondly, I plan on first making some basic apps and understanding the way Android works. Then, possibly may go more advanced with themeing and such.
Lastly, I want to point out I'm not alone in this post. YES you can GOOGLE what I asked for in this thread. Hardly any of your search results you get back from Google will be clear and concise and I appreciate some people understanding that not everyone is fluent in the ways of Android development.
I flashed mostly everything interesting on these forums whether its roms or themes or mods. I look up to the developers at ACS among all the others.
I believe this is a relevant post and a lot of people feel the same way I do.
Thank you.
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Theming/ROM/Kernel development are seperate from app development, as I'm sure you are aware. Two different beasts entirely, actually. I would start with ROM and theming ventures first to really learn how the operating system works, then move to kernel development to see how things are actually interacting.
App development is a whole 'nother ballgame, writing apps in Java is really the nitty gritty of the works. To understand this, it would help to know how things in the OS work.
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I am also heading down this path. Do you have programming experience?
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Yes I do. I've had experience in Java it's just been years! But um I don't think the basics of programming will be any trouble. I've already attempted to read up on some Android Programming Tutorials. My main hurdle was getting this set up on my computer so I could follow along with a guide. I do realize themeing and developing are apples and oranges but they are both interesting to me. I read someone's post long ago (not sure who) to begin writing apps and then maybe try one's luck to create ROMs.

Hey bud, congrats on trying to learn this stuff. We at ERA started out just as you did about 3-4 months ago with a similar post. It is tough going at first but there are plenty of people out they're willing to help. The devs in this community are great and I feel confident in speaking for ERA, and from coming from where you are, that if you need any help or have questions feel fee to pm us and we'll do our best to help.
Like I said it was a post like this, a couple dudes messing around on our free time, and some great help that led to what our team has become, so anything is possible, bro. Good luck.
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stormglove said:
Hey bud, congrats on trying to learn this stuff. We at ERA started out just as you did about 3-4 months ago with a similar post. It is tough going at first but there are plenty of people out they're willing to help. The devs in this community are great and I feel confident in speaking for ERA, and from coming from where you are, that if you need any help or have questions feel fee to pm us and we'll do our best to help.
Like I said it was a post like this, a couple dudes messing around on our free time, and some great help that led to what our team has become, so anything is possible, bro. Good luck.
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+1. Anything is possible. Just do your best, and you'll get there. Speaking of that thread, I seriously cant believe its been that long already...seems like yesterday we started.
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Hey thanks! That's even more inspiring to hear from you guys at ERA especially since i'm enjoying the new legendary ROM... And wow 3-4 months ago? I highly doubt I'll get to that level in that same amount of time but I've flashed everything for this epic and we all know at some point we're going to run out of things to flash until we figure out how to port ICS over. That's the time I would like to be a contributor to the development for this phone. thank you so much for the support!
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Droid Eris Market Fix App - One Click Fix v1.4

Version 1.4
Fixed path issue in free version
Version 1.3
Increased patching speed 10x
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One click market fix for root roms based on Eris leaks.
Version of Legend/Hero Based roms to follow. Free Version is the same as the donate. One click fix, please read the description for details.
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A donate and free versions are available.
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Patch possibly coming today, if I feel like it.
Rom cooks, give shoot me a pm, on here or irc or email me at . So we can enable the full 2.1 Version market on the Eris roms.
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Thank you for continuing to give us goodies on our phone. Cant wait for this, if you decide to release it.
if you make that patch i think i might cum
jcase said:
Patch possibly coming today, if I feel like it.
Rom cooks, give shoot me a pm, on here or irc or email me So we can enable the full 2.1 Version market on the Eris roms.
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jcase you are the man
Would definitely be interested in a market fix. Thanks.
what is the "market fix" for?
tia
joey3002 said:
what is the "market fix" for?
tia
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Enables the full 2.1 Verizon market place. I have it working, if done by hand. I can't pull it off over an update.zip and when ppl run my app written in c, its a 50/50 shot at working. I am waiting on someone to help me port to java as an apk.
jcase said:
Enables the full 2.1 Verizon market place. I have it working, if done by hand. I can't pull it off over an update.zip and when ppl run my app written in c, its a 50/50 shot at working. I am waiting on someone to help me port to java as an apk.
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Can you write a tutorial for people to do it by hand?
JTK28 said:
Can you write a tutorial for people to do it by hand?
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No, I don't want complaints from people messing up.
Re: 2.1 Market Fix - help needed
Thanks for your continued Eris help jcase.
Understand about keeping the info locked down. It is guaranteed the whiners would come out.
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No, I don't want complaints from people messing up.
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Understandable...
I wouldn't want that either.
If you change your mind i would love a tutorial to do it by hand.
If its not too much trouble, could you PM me a quick tutorial if you get the chance?
Thanks.
Re: 2.1 Market Fix - help needed
3 cheers for j case...you keep delivering the goods
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Why do I want the 2.1 Market Fix?
Evening,
What benefits do I gain from getting the 2.1 marketplace fix?
New apps? Better Apps? MORE APPS?!?!!!
I feel as though I should be in eager anticipation of it but I've no clue why?
Post it in the right spot, and I will answer.
From my understanding, The market fix is for users OUT of the USA. It enables them to see all the apps, instead of a limited amount.
Isn't it nice to just get an answer to your question
I guess some people dont mind being on their high horses. Like seriously, its a forum. Get over it.
Next time, just try and post in the right section. Then people wont be so snarky towards you.
jcase said:
Post it in the right spot, and I will answer.
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Why do you have a holier than thou attitude? I understand you've been mistreated on these forums but you don't need to mistreat those who have done nothing wrong. You do a lot of great work and most people appreciate it even if they can't express it well, this has nothing to do with your dev work, which is excellent. You just come off looking like an asshole when you post things like that. You could have easily answered his question but chose to be condescending. It only makes the situation worse. You can yell at people for not searching or not posting in the right spot all you want but you need to realize that a lot of the people who come here are visiting for the first time and haven't seen all of your complaints of mistakes that almost every newbie makes. Sorry if I offended you somehow, just my views.
-tim
jcase is a dev god, he does what he wants.
LexusBrian400 said:
From my understanding, The market fix is for users OUT of the USA. It enables them to see all the apps, instead of a limited amount.
Isn't it nice to just get an answer to your question
I guess some people dont mind being on their high horses. Like seriously, its a forum. Get over it.
Next time, just try and post in the right section. Then people wont be so snarky towards you.
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A) Wrong market patch is a project I have been working on, has nothing to do with being outside the US. Isn't it nice getting an incorrect answer. It enables a full market on these custom roms, allows you to switch between device specific markets, and maybe some surprises.
B) Forum is flooded, and if people read the rules they would know where to post stuff.
Isn't nice getting the wrong answer from someone who doesn't know what they are speaking of?
WalkingTaco said:
Why do you have a holier than thou attitude? I understand you've been mistreated on these forums but you don't need to mistreat those who have done nothing wrong. You do a lot of great work and most people appreciate it even if they can't express it well, this has nothing to do with your dev work, which is excellent. You just come off looking like an asshole when you post things like that. You could have easily answered his question but chose to be condescending. It only makes the situation worse. You can yell at people for not searching or not posting in the right spot all you want but you need to realize that a lot of the people who come here are visiting for the first time and haven't seen all of your complaints of mistakes that almost every newbie makes. Sorry if I offended you somehow, just my views.
-tim
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Tim,
If people took time to read the rules, this wouldn't happen. Your 100% right, I am an asshole. No offense taken.
jcase
Erisftw said:
jcase is a dev god, he does what he wants.
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I know jack #@[email protected], I am just shifting my way through all this.

To everyone here

I am sad to see everyone fighting over donation ROM which is only worth a few hours of a Modders time.
I and others developers do real work like Permanent Recovery and kernels, I and other developers took hours of soft bricking the device. People copy my update.zip formatting and use it for their ROM. if i wasn't here, you wouldn't have permanent recovery and CyanogenMod and one click and etc.
To the mods, you did the right thing here
Thank you? I honestly don't know how to respond in a way that isn't ridiculously sarcastic and mean, so I will leave it at that.
Me either. Lol.
How's cyanogenmod going?????
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I love roms but i cant stand the premise on donate ware, it seems many devs do it without even knowing their breaching T&C. I think some type of guide book needs to be set in place so whoever cooks a rom up knows what to and to not include in their posts, sigs, and threads to keep everything going smoothly. Im not against people who give their supporters beta releases but keep it off xda and keep it between you and your beta group. There are many talented devs out there that go about things all wrong(purposely and accidental) and kinda gives other devs a bad wrap for things they may not be involved in.
muyoso said:
Thank you? I honestly don't know how to respond in a way that isn't ridiculously sarcastic and mean, so I will leave it at that.
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Why be sarcastic and mean? Noobnl has done so much for the community and he only started his view on the matter of roms. That is only because some members are attacking noobnl due to a mod closing threads. But think carefully what made roms capable of flashing to begin with on the epic.
noobnl said:
I am sad to see everyone fighting over donation ROM which is only worth a few hours of a Modders time.
I and others developers do real work like Permanent Recovery and kernels, I and other developers took hours of soft bricking the device. People copy my update.zip formatting and use it for their ROM. if i wasn't here, you wouldn't have permanent recovery and CyanogenMod and one click and etc.
To the mods, you did the right thing here
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Yes, well your attitude stinks. You are talented but not holier than thou.
Get off your high horse and let it die.
noobnl said:
I am sad to see everyone fighting over donation ROM which is only worth a few hours of a Modders time.
I and others developers do real work like Permanent Recovery and kernels, I and other developers took hours of soft bricking the device. People copy my update.zip formatting and use it for their ROM. if i wasn't here, you wouldn't have permanent recovery and CyanogenMod and one click and etc.
To the mods, you did the right thing here
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I concur, these donatewares people need to get a real job/career and stop preying on the "flash-heads" who'd do anything to get a rom flashing fix.
lv2bll said:
I love roms but i cant stand the premise on donate ware, it seems many devs do it without even knowing their breaching T&C. I think some type of guide book needs to be set in place so whoever cooks a rom up knows what to and to not include in their posts, sigs, and threads to keep everything going smoothly. Im not against people who give their supporters beta releases but keep it off xda and keep it between you and your beta group. There are many talented devs out there that go about things all wrong(purposely and accidental) and kinda gives other devs a bad wrap for things they may not be involved in.
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If people read the rules, which they are required to be aware of and in compliance of, it is clearly stated in Rule 8.
Here's my two cents on this whole thing if anyone cares.
ROM building is basically pushing and pulling APKs and running BAT files other members have already put together. I will be the first to admit that the stupid ROM I've posted really doesn't contain anything new. It's just the same files in a different order with some added, compressed or removed. When I do this stuff, obviously, I'm not coding anything. I'm barely proficient with Linux and would consider myself a novice at when it comes to programming in any language. (I can write you a 'Hello World' program in just about any language you want though.)
99% of the members here, if they had the time and desire to, could make a ROM.
As far as donations go, I can see how it would be tempting to ask for them. After all, even if ROM building is EASY, it does take time. However, I can definitely understand where XDA is coming from. Someone has to pay for this domain and the hosting. With the insane amount of traffic this place gets it can't be cheap. How would you feel if you fascilitated this place and had people setting up shop? If anything I feel like I owe XDA and if ****ty technical support jobs paid more I would have already donated.
I've learned a long time ago that being mad/upset about anything in any part of your life or even disliking people really doesn't get you anywhere. That kind of stuff just poisons your mind and overall wellbeing. So can't we just move on guys?
That's all.
Also I want to thank noob for working with Team Douche on CM for our phones. If you guys haven't had an opportunity to use it on another Android device, trust me it is well worth waiting for. No more waiting on Sammy to push updates.
volkly said:
Why be sarcastic and mean? Noobnl has done so much for the community and he only started his view on the matter of roms. That is only because some members are attacking noobnl due to a mod closing threads. But think carefully what made roms capable of flashing to begin with on the epic.
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Because frankly I don't care how talented you are or how much you have contributed to the community, putting other developers down and calling them "cowards" as he did in the other thread, and then creating a new post full of the most self congratulatory arrogant nonsense I have ever read explaining how the dev scene ain't Sh&t without you, requires nothing but a mean and sarcastic reply.
Edit: No one is questioning that the work he is doing is awesome and that he is talented and at the core of development for the epic right now, but from the last few posts I have read of his, the same cannot be said of his attitude.
Are you going to show some of that epic cm greatness to douchecast tonight
NotATreoFan said:
If people read the rules, which they are required to be aware of and in compliance of, it is clearly stated in Rule 8.
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Where in the rules does it say you can be suspended or banned for expressing your opinion regarding the actions of moderators?
bobdude5 said:
Are you going to show some of that epic cm greatness to douchecast tonight
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yup going to compile a new cm6
noobnl said:
yup going to compile a new cm6
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Sweet deal hopefully those pesky random bootloops are gone in the new one good luck man!
I love that channel ...everybody gave up modding and played angry birds when you left ahah
are u going to incorporate the source code that was released?
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yup going to compile a new cm6
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You saying that all these roms on here are yours but kanged?I feel if someone added or removed few things from a rom than he should definitely put KANGED in rom's title and give credit to original coder/creator.
lviv73 said:
You saying that all these roms on here are yours but kanged?I feel if someone added or removed few things from a rom than he should definitely put KANGED in rom's title and give credit to original coder/creator.
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He's saying he doesn't appreciate people taking credit for his modified Linux kernel and other modifications to bootloaders by asking for "donations," that's all. Take a look at noobnl's Github repo. It is linked to the CyanogenMod source repo, the samsung sources, and other sources upstream. Credit is given and all licenses are followed properly. His releases all have their source published. He doesn't withhold releases under the guise of getting people to donate (pay) for beta testing (early access to software). He has every right to be perturbed at others using a thinly-veiled excuse to basically extort money from people in order to get something derived from his own work earlier than everyone else.
Mutiny32 said:
He's saying he doesn't appreciate people taking credit for his modified Linux kernel and other modifications to bootloaders by asking for "donations," that's all. Take a look at noobnl's Github repo. It is linked to the CyanogenMod source repo, the samsung sources, and other sources upstream. Credit is given and all licenses are followed properly. His releases all have their source published. He doesn't withhold releases under the guise of getting people to donate (pay) for beta testing (early access to software). He has every right to be perturbed at others using a thinly-veiled excuse to basically extort money from people in order to get something derived from his own work earlier than everyone else.
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Yeah thats not right,i owned 3 android phones and never have I seen this type of **** we have on epic forum.
Noobnl, cm6 is coming out tonight?! Answer me please! Been waiting for this.
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Personal Victory

Having been on XDA for a long time now I know that there are a vocal minority that will say "so what" to this post, but that's okay, I'm a happy camper today. The reason that I'm a happy camper is that when I got my Evo just about a year ago I didn't know anything about android. We had what seemed to be a 20 step root method using ADB that frankly scared the crap put of me when I tried it. It was nothing like using my old Mogul.
Today I was able to help 3 different people with problems. It was one of those good news / bad news situations. The bad news is that probably 90% of the folks here still know more about android than I ever will. The good news is that I'm now competent to help those other 10%!
I know, doesn't seem like much compared to out forum "greats," but 3 thanks from 3 different threads is a personal accomplishment for me.
Aha Congrats! I love helping people out although i don't know much as most people here in xda. Everyone learns one thread at a time!
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Consider it 4. Or maybe more, before I fire up the CR-48. Never hurts to help. Sometimes it gets old but we must acknowledge a new wave of users. +1 for helping the newbians and being so stoked about it. Been in a good mood today, else I might have said, 'so what?'
A fun and glorious time this is.
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That's cool, dude. A few days ago everyone in here was all testy and pissed off, and now that the root is out we're all friends again.
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I was the exact same way. I was a complete noob until I had CM7 running on my old Hero a few months ago (6 I think?) then I got the evo and since about 3 weeks ago, I started helping people out. I even made a perfected batch script that pulls apps from /data/app and for devs I made a /system pulling script.
Congrats man for being one of the good guys.
This is exactly the sort of thing that everyone on XDA should be all about. I've personally come a long way from mucking around with ADB to root my Hero and it's really nice to be able to help out every now and then.
Nothing wrong with taking pride in helping others! There are some things it's ok to be proud of, that's one of them! I, too, was a complete noob when I came from iPhone to EVO. At first i just read every thread that had an interest to me but soon i started to read questions and thing "Oh, i know that answer I had this problem already!" or maybe someone else had the problem and posted about it and I read that thread. Before long I was helping people fairly regularly, Up to 17 thanks so far which I know isn't that much but for me it is since i still really know very little about android. But remember it doesn't matter how little you know, as long as you share it!
Some of us remember well the days before internet came around. There were no communities like this. If you needed to know something and it wasn't in a book you owned you went to the library and spent all day looking it up! Now any 8 year old can google anything in 5 seconds. And with smartphones they can do it anywhere. Communities like this one are making sooo many things possible that just weren't before for most people, and people that are willing to help others are what makes it all possible!
The internet? Days before? I don't even ...
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I was the same way, knew nothing about android. Now I know so much and can give back to the ccommunity
Deck's + SZ + SuperCharger script + ViperMod script.
conqu1stador said:
The internet? Days before? I don't even ...
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You know, when "net" meant either what's on top of the basketball hoop or that thing you use to catch fish.
Evo HW 003
MIUI 1.8.5
Agreed. Helping out people before they make the same mistakes you did, or helping them fix a problem, answering their questions; it's like being a parent guiding your kids, and that's all good.
Agreed. xda is head and shoulders above most forums I've seen for having people willing to take the time to help with both simple questions as well as helping unwind over-the-top complicated disasters.
Sort of restores your hope for mankind in some ways ....
Yep, lots of happy nerds this week.
Don't get too giddy. We're quick to slap down the dumb questions, too lol
HipKat said:
Don't get too giddy. We're quick to slap down the dumb questions, too lol
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There are no dumb questions, only IGNORANT-ASS LAZY ****WADS THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GODDAMN SEACH BUTTON IS!!!!! /raaaaaaaaaaGGGGGgeeeeee
Dude, that attitude is what is ruining xda. If you don't want to help there's no need for attitude just don't answer.
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Landara said:
There are no dumb questions, only IGNORANT-ASS LAZY ****WADS THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GODDAMN SEACH BUTTON IS!!!!! /raaaaaaaaaaGGGGGgeeeeee
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You sir....are a donkey. Move along folks,there's a donkey on the rag.
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You sir....are a donkey. Move along folks,there's a donkey on the rag.
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That was some funny ****...
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Hey, that's what a community board is all about. Helping those that need help and getting help in return. At one point even the developers were "noobs". They had to start from scratch with only each others knowledge and a couple computers and phones. After years of giving each other a helping hand, they were able to crack every code all the manufacturers created to lock down the true potential of the phones and have made XDA the biggest and best. developers website there is today.

[POLL] Developing Classes

KANG - To steal or a stolen code when referring to programming. Also can refer to leaked coding.
Due to the copious amounts of kanging that now happens in regards to android development I will be pulling all of my links and changing the original posts with this. If you would like to use my roms please feel free to find the kanged version elsewhere.
For inspiring developers, rtfm or ask someone who knows what they are doing before you steal someone elses work, look at someones code and get the general idea. If you port or use something as a base, credit that person. Do not just link back to the thread where you got it from. My email is [email protected] so feel free to ask questions, if I know the answers I will be willing to assist.
I don't wish to call anyone out but I will say there are a few roms, specifically for MT4G Slide that have been kanged. One of which was taken from me, another was a kanged version of CM7 which was just the Settings.apk SettingsProvider.apk and Launcher.apk replaced. CM7 is framework edits, not just a list of apps an entire team works on. You cannot just replace apps in CyanogenMod and expect it to work thus the reason some parts of the Settings.apk force close. Its not hard to be an idiot but its even easier to spot bull**** work, do yourselves a favor, leave xda, leave rootzwiki, leave whatever thread you are on and learn from people who know what the fk they're doing.
If my email fills with hate mail, then fine, at least what I did I feel was right and do not have to worry about my development being taken and rebadged, if I'm out of line then have a moderator delete and close my thread. Thanks!
I have learned a whole lot from you, and couldn't imagine missing them "classes"
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I would join in for it. I'm gonna be dual booting my computer and learning about android is something I wanna do
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Definitely in for whatever you want to teach.
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Would love to!
Aww man I would love too but I'm so busy with school and work.
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I'm in... Always wanted to learn, not sure where to start.
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I'd prefer a how to in English. Sparky did a good write up on how to kang CM7.
VICODAN said:
I'd prefer a how to in English. Sparky did a good write up on how to kang CM7.
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I forgot, JKILO speaks in a foreign knick knock language... Here ya go...
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The problem is a lot of people don't like IRC or have time like me to ever get on there. Look on rootzwiki I heard there's some pretty nice guides on deving there
sparksco said:
The problem is a lot of people don't like IRC or have time like me to ever get on there. Look on rootzwiki I heard there's some pretty nice guides on deving there
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This. I'm actually on IRC 24/7/365 but I have a job, life, etc.
sparksco said:
The problem is a lot of people don't like IRC or have time like me to ever get on there. Look on rootzwiki I heard there's some pretty nice guides on deving there
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Rootz has great guides, so does the google code page when it comes to smali/baksmali (thanks one_love)... But some people have an easier time learning when they are walked through the steps. I also plan on making notes of JKILO's sessions to keep for myself and to give out to those that are interested.
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sparksco said:
The problem is a lot of people don't like IRC or have time like me to ever get on there. Look on rootzwiki I heard there's some pretty nice guides on deving there
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thats what im trying to help out is if you read a guide youre still lost. some are written perfect but each user is different. most people write a guide and leave it for whatever, with this ill be there to fix the errors anyone can encounter and is never posted in a guide
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Rootz has great guides, so does the google code page when it comes to smali/baksmali (thanks one_love)... But some people have an easier time learning when they are walked through the steps. I also plan on making notes of JKILO's sessions to keep for myself and to give out to those that are interested.
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i plan on keeping logs of the class just in case someone wanted to show and didnt i can upload them to here and they can read through..but if you want your own collection go ahead
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i plan on keeping logs of the class just in case someone wanted to show and didnt i can upload them to here and they can read through..but if you want your own collection go ahead
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Im an avid note taker... I smoke too much ganj... I don't even remember yesterday.
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I'm definately in.
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thats what im trying to help out is if you read a guide youre still lost. some are written perfect but each user is different. most people write a guide and leave it for whatever, with this ill be there to fix the errors anyone can encounter and is never posted in a guide
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Maybe we should start a wiki?
VICODAN said:
This. I'm actually on IRC 24/7/365 but I have a job, life, etc.
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So your life is IRC then? Lmao
sparksco said:
So your life is IRC then? Lmao
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Haha no it's called a computer that runs 24/7 and the command "screen *****X"
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Maybe we should start a wiki?
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its a good idea but i dunno how many would find use in it but im sure someone could..
As For Everyone Else
What is a good schedule for you? I'm usually available 8:30PM EST Mon-Thursday and about 9PM Fri-Sun
Im trying to hit whatever is best for all so I'll be flexible as much as possible. I plan to deliver the classes in a certain order too as in, porting, update.zips, logcat reading to get it to boot, editing the ramdisk for permissions or whatever else, and so on

Some of the instructions

On here are about as clear as mud.
I can say thanks for the hard work you guys put in but you really need to stop assuming that everyone is programing at degree level.
After 4 broken mouse a broken cup and 4 sleepless nights I'm giving up trying to root the wildfire..
I don't even want the thing in this house anymore!
That's funny I followed them twice with no complications at all and I knew nothing about Android and have basic computer skills, don't blame the guides here for your own incompetence. Those guides have helped hundreds/thousands of people to gain root, if you're having problems why not ask like everyone else does, though I doubt you'll get much help now.
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Maybe you just don't have enough patience and willingness to put time and effort into your phone. I rooted my wildfire the second day I got it, no problems at all.
PS: epic ragequit bro. A broken mouse and a mug. Over an android phone.
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When I rooted mine I had zero knowlege of Android past "this app looks neat" and I did it in an hour or two (didn't get much sleep that night. too much new stuff to install)
But seriously, if you just use a third party tool like Revolutonary, it's as easy as pie.
Download tool->plugin phone->install drivers (if necesary)->run tool->follow simple onscreen instructions
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I just think folk could be a bit clearer at times and then when your not having success further in the post someone chimes in with another 'even easier' solution lol, well so they say so your away again and suprise it doesn't work or something isn't clear so you go back and aw well the loop continues until you litteraly break!
I give up the phones old hat now anyway!
Relax A Minute!
@Tevion74
I can understand where you are coming from, before I bought my Wildfire I had never even used any PC Linux Distros (distributions) and had a lot of reading up to do, but the main thing I had to remember is this:
KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON LEARNING
whenever I had a problem rooting or now when I am trying to do something with my wildfire - I will not just dive straight in, research what you want to know IN DETAIL
and then if I am still in doubt, I will ask one of the great devs on here, such as Scratch0805, Heavy_Metal_Man, Sympnotic and Arco68 and Hacktrix2006 - but there as so many that I can not name all the people that have helped our friend Willy Wildfire progress to where its at!
My point is, dont just try and do it if you can't, RESEARCH, and if need be - ask for help.
There is always people on XDA willing to give help to those that ask and don't tant.
Dev? Me? Far from it mate, I have no knowledge of Linux based systems at all, well except what I've learnt here, it has all come from reading guides on xda.
I struggle to understand when erwinp,sympnotic start talking in the cm9 thread.
I think of myself more an advanced user who's not afraid to have a go.
To the op if you post your problem in the thread of the guide your trying to follow we'll try to help you and figure out where your going wrong.
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who me??
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and then if I am still in doubt, I will ask one of the great devs on here, such as Scratch0805, Heavy_Metal_Man, Sympnotic and Arco68 and Hacktrix2006 - but there as so many that I can not name all the people that have helped our friend Willy Wildfire progress to where its at!
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lol thanks for the kind words
You just need to understand that this is a forum. If a member of a forum has a problem, he can post about it and other members can help him solve it. That's how forums work
I'm 100% sure if you posted about your issue in the relevant thread, you would've gotten a solution in 2 hours, if not less.
nejc121 said:
You just need to understand that this is a forum. If a member of a forum has a problem, he can post about it and other members can help him solve it. That's how forums work
I'm 100% sure if you posted about your issue in the relevant thread, you would've gotten a solution in 2 hours, if not less.
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agreed. im sorry if my reply seems harsh (my hasty responses can be) it just frustrates me when people come with grievances and seem to have not asked for help on the matter. if you had asked for help, read the threads and still couldnt get the help you wanted then i would understand. (we have all been there before). our members try there best when righting guides to make them as user friendly as possible. we all need to start somewhere and alot of us come here with little or no knowledge of linux or android. if we can do it you can do it. these things just take time and paitence.
Tevion74 said:
I came on here thanking you guys for your efforts in my first post but making a valid point I feel, then I get some numpty calling me childish and now I have someone saying I started calling others childish...
Pmpl away n boil yer heid!
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Look ya muppet, if you read the guides as carefully as you read my posts I'm not surprised you can't get root. Me and you both seem to have a bit of an attitude so let's just leave it.
Yes we kind of clashed the first couple of posts I get that and offer my apologies, it just p's me off when people throw a fit and blame others because its themselves that can't follow a simple step by step guide correctly. This forum is what it is because of people asking questions and others answering them. I'm offering to help you as that's why we're here and I know other people will too so just chill out, Buy yourself a new mug then have a cuppa tea n we'll try to start again and get you up n running!
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I purchased my wildfire in South Africa and to gain root i couldnt use the regular way, i researched day and night, by the way this is my first android phone, i knew nothing what so ever about what i was doing but because i just applied myself into the task, the day i decided to finally root, it took me less than an hour. but now im fairly competent in fixing this and that on a rom, so shoot your questions, we will answer..........this is XDA, we can do anything.
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To make things clear here.
XDA is a developer forum and not everyone's personal tech support.
Mostly everyone in here tries and reads the guides and the wealth of information included for their own benefit.
If you dont like the current guides then by all means make your own and offer something back to the community.

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