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So after owning a SGS2, would you consider a 7" version of it? HELL THE FRAK YEAH I WOULD! Esp for videos. I have to re-encode my MKV's just to be able to watch them on my TF101, so being able to watch movies w/o re-encoding is a big plus for me. Of course there are other methods to watch movies on a Tegra2 device but I prefer natively.
If you're like me then read below for more info.
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-coming-this-fall-but-with-gingerbread-20110615/
http://www.crunchgear.com/2011/06/15/galaxy-tab-seven-will-run-gingerbread-2-3-4/
* Exynos 1.2 GHz dual-core processor
* 1GB RAM, 2GB ROM
* Android 2.3.4 Gingerbread w/ TouchWiz 4.0
* 16GB of internal memory
* Micro SD slot
* Tab proprietary connector with USB Host capabilities (via adapter)
* 7 inch WSVGA IPS display
* Ability to call, video call and send SMS messages
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But then again, Tegra3 is hopefully coming out at the end of the year & that has me considering if I should of not but at least with a 7" tablet, it's easier to carry around than a 10" tablet on the go.
haha! i WOULD LOVE ONE!! But not that one!
It appears that's going to be a "medium" device.
Just my opinion, but if I'm going to be paying that much (that being a very high price) I want the best, compared to what's in the market.
If I was getting something this fall, I'd either wait till next year to get a quad-core GPU, ultra-high resolution display (MAYBE Super AMOLED ultra high res)
Plus I'd want it to have Ice Cream.
daivik said:
haha! i WOULD LOVE ONE!! But not that one!
It appears that's going to be a "medium" device.
Just my opinion, but if I'm going to be paying that much (that being a very high price) I want the best, compared to what's in the market.
If I was getting something this fall, I'd either wait till next year to get a quad-core GPU, ultra-high resolution display (MAYBE Super AMOLED ultra high res)
Plus I'd want it to have Ice Cream.
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True. if the price is too much then I won't consider getting one. If it's affordable then I would consider it.
I'll be getting a Quad Core tablet when it comes out but having a smaller tablet has it's advantages too.
I believe you could run ICE CREAM on that hardware down the road.
With this, it will keep me busy until the Quad Cores come out in the winter time. Of course, this is based on if it does come out during the fall as speculated.
i hope u werent talking about using it as a phone, like some have with the 1st gen galaxy tab....
but using it as a tab, then yes, of course.
I have both 7" galaxy tab and sgs2 (was sgs til a few days ago)
If they have the spec of the sgs2 with a 7" screen it would be awesome! The tab only lacks the super amoled screen against the sgs, but run a duel core processor and amoled and it would be the best tablet IMO
Oh and those questioning the tab being overpriced, carphone are selling em sim free for £250 to clear (limited stock in stores only)
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for 250 pounds I'd buy one but atm for tablets you can't beat the ipad2 (hw/price wise), those ipads are so cheep and the android tablets so expensive
google should give part of it revenue from the market to the hw manufacturer, so they can lower their prices and be competitive with the ipads
I would get one only if it supported NTFS. What is the point being able to play full res videos/movies when you are limited to only 4GB on FAT32.
wish it were a 5 inch screen
I've already got one, it's called a Samsung Galaxy Tab.
Unless you want to play high-end games it does everything just fine including playing any media I throw at it.
Hey Guys,
I'm thinking about picking up a Kindle Fire mainly for couch-gaming. I love the whole rooting/hacking scene and there seems to be a lot of dev support which is essential for any android device to suceed imo, but I digress.
How does the GPU handle the newest, current 3D games? If im looking for a tablet that will hold up to newer games, would this be a good or bad choice?
For example, I'm looking to start playing Order and Chaos again. I got it working pretty flawlessly on my HTC Flyer that I used to have. Does anyone run this on their fire?
Thanks for the info
The OMAP TI 4430 and the PowerVR GX540 do really a great combo. The KF handles new games without any issue .
However, keep in mind it only supports up to two touch points at the same time.
Do you want an E reader that can play games or a full fledged tablet for entertainment? Because the KF is not a full blown tablet by any means.
Kindle Fire handles hard core 3D gaming very well. Games like Shadowgun run like silk
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All good and well what the Fire can handle but for $50 more, $250 list, you can get a full blown Android tablet in the Galaxy Tab 2 from Samsung. That 50 bucks gets you: Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, GPS, a micro SDHC slot so you can add 32GB more storage, camera (admittedly not so great of one), compass and other sundry sensors. Uses the Ti OMAP dual core processor which does rather decent graphics.
Edit: I knew I forgot something as I was writing this and just remembered. A full Android device will also have Bluetooth so you can use wireless gaming controllers.
Just something to consider.
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And with the new nexus tablet coming soon, I'd wait.
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All good and well what the Fire can handle but for $50 more, $250 list, you can get a full blown Android tablet in the Galaxy Tab 2 from Samsung. That 50 bucks gets you: Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, GPS, a micro SDHC slot so you can add 32GB more storage, camera (admittedly not so great of one), compass and other sundry sensors. Uses the Ti OMAP dual core processor which does rather decent graphics.
Edit: I knew I forgot something as I was writing this and just remembered. A full Android device will also have Bluetooth so you can use wireless gaming controllers.
Just something to consider.
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The issue is that most people don't pay 199 for their Kindle Fire's if they are on XDA. You can get a refurb device straight from Amazon for 139 and probably cheaper if you look on Craigslist, etc (around 100).
Kind of makes that "50 dollars more" argument turn into 120+.
Mind you, I'm not arguing the fact that for 250 you do get a full fledged tablet device in the 7" form factor. The GTab 2 is a fine device.
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So let's match up the latest contender against the current king of "pocketables" (our beloved Tab 7.7) in terms of hardware:
Specs of the main rivals (as of Nov 2012):
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Galaxy Tab 7.7 iPad Mini Nexus 7 Kindle Fire HD
Dimensions 196.7 x 133 x 7.9 mm 200 x 134.7 x 7.2 mm 198.5 x 120 x 10.5 mm 193 x 137 x 10.3 mm
Weight 340 g 308 g 340 g 395 g
Resolution 1280 x 800 1024 x 768 1280 x 800 1280 x 800
Screen 7.7" 196 ppi 7.9" 162 ppi 7.0" 216 ppi 7.0" 216 ppi
Cams 3.15 & 2 MP 5 & 1 MP 1.2 MP 1.3 MP
Micro-SD yes no no no
CPU Dual-core 1.4 GHz A9 Dual-core 1 Ghz A9 Quad-core 1.3 GHz A9 Dual-core 1.2 GHz A9
GPU Mali-400MP PowerVR SGX MP4+ GeForce PowerVR SGX540
RAM 1 GB 512 MB 1 GB 512 MB
GPS yes no yes no
Misc voice call support NFC
Verdict:
Dimensions: draw
Weight: iPad Mini
Resolution: Tab 7.7
Screen: Tab 7.7
Cams: draw
Micro-SD: Tab 7.7
CPU: Tab 7.7
GPU: Tab 7.7
RAM: Tab 7.7
GPS: Tab 7.7
Looking at the hardware it looks like a clear win for the Tab 7.7.
For those looking for LTE data: supported by both Verizon's Tab 7.7 and iPad Mini LTE version
So, to summarize the iPad Mini:
The Good: light weight, good back cam
The Bad: front cam, no expandable memory, no USB peripheral connectivity, no GPS
The Ugly: 162ppi (in 2012) is going to be pushing it when reading full size PDFs, non-uniform bezel not really great design choice
What do you guys think?
The only good thing here, is that there will be a lot of accessories for the ipad mini and there is a slight chance that some of these might fit the 7.7 .
I do feel that samsung might come out with another amoled tab in january at CES but I could be wrong.
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The only good thing here, is that there will be a lot of accessories for the ipad mini and there is a slight chance that some of these might fit the 7.7 .
I do feel that samsung might come out with another amoled tab in january at CES but I could be wrong.
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I hope so too. A 7.7 successor with stylus, 1920x1080 (286 ppi) screen and wireless charging would be a game changer.
Accessories wise I'm pretty happy handling the device without any bulky covers; and the screen protectors won't be compatible, not sure what the Mini could contribute..
I'll pass on the Mini, if only to have it just play with. One dealbreaker too many -- no microsd slot. End of story.
I might jump ship for a Asus padphone 2
Tab 7.7 definitely wins here. The iPad mini isn't worth it.
Tab 7.7 has the native Voice Call !!!!!
Absolutely the must-have feature.
7.7 original innovation. Ipad Mini same as ipad 2 but smaller no innovation. And waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to expensive for it to compete with anything else. Sure the 7.7 was over $600 US but I would gladly pay that anytime over a shrunken down version of an old product
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While the hardware of the 7.7 is great and the fact that Samsung got it right on the size (a fraction of an inch really does matter in the 7inch tablet market) -- Apple's advantage is it's ecosystem. It is a fact that their tablets will be upgraded to iOS7 and iOS8. Until Android and/or Samsung get down to a good software support model we won't win. Give me a 7.7 Nexus that has an annual software update and isn't discontinued and I think I'll be happy.
Agreed the Gtab 7.7 is superior, and it was a device announced in 2011!
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While the hardware of the 7.7 is great and the fact that Samsung got it right on the size (a fraction of an inch really does matter in the 7inch tablet market) -- Apple's advantage is it's ecosystem. It is a fact that their tablets will be upgraded to iOS7 and iOS8. Until Android and/or Samsung get down to a good software support model we won't win. Give me a 7.7 Nexus that has an annual software update and isn't discontinued and I think I'll be happy.
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As long as some people from Team Hacksung don't jump ship, we'll have newer OSs. The 7.7 is mostly the same as a Galaxy SII, and almost the same as a Note. Both devices are being worked on by people from the Team, and most of the Exynos 4212's stupidities are known and somewhat understood. Although our device isn't as well supported as the Note, we will get whatever CM version the Note gets; right now locerra is working to avoid the rough edges, but if he stops doing so someone from the community will step up. We won't get a TouchWiz Android 4.2+, but we will get it (and future versions) on AOSP.
A 1024x768 4:3 screen vs 1280x800 SAMOLED+? It's not even fair.
Apparently the Mini doesn't include a GPS either, whereas the Tab7.7 comes out of the box with GPS enabled Google Maps. Then add (compass enabled) Streetview and Google Earth (and compare it to Apple maps w/o GPS) and it's not even a contest in this category.
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I hope so too. A 7.7 successor with stylus, 1920x1080 (286 ppi) screen and wireless charging would be a game changer.
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+1 to that. My wish
I would say the nexus 7 is better based on the specs I do not like apple products at all but will probably buy the iPad mini when available to test it out and see how good the screen is compared to the nexus
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I just bought a gtab 7.7 and am well within my 14 day return period. Here are the reasons I am not going to get the ipad mini:
- GPS. How can apple not include this? Unbelievable.
- screen quality. While I have not seen the ipad mini, I love the display on the gtab 7.7. It is the best I've seen on any device.
- build quality. Better than any android device and at least as good as the ipad.
- expandable memory.
- haptic feedback. I love to use this while typing. It amazes me that apple, amazon and Asus do not include this on their devices and nobody complains.
The primary advantages for apple in my eyes include :
- great app eco system and developer support.
- warranty and service are Lexus like... at least in my experience.
So I'm keeping my gtab 7.7. This replaces my old school gtab 7 that I've had for two years.
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besides the app ecosystem, the tab 7.7 wins on everything to me.
to get an equivalent cellular model, with 64gb space (to compensate for no microsd slot) you'd be paying 600 bucks for the mini.
the tab 7.7 is a year old as well and it still kicks the llama's ass. samsung nailed it, was ahead of the game, but somehow didn't know how to market the best tab in this size range.
i really wish that android apps would catch up on the tablet-optimized space. the apps taht are tablet optimized are a much better experience than blown up phone app interfaces.
i personally wish google would put some android specifications that all manufacturers have to follow. enough so it is easier to develop for without affecting the different choices we can get.
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besides the app ecosystem, the tab 7.7 wins on everything to me.
to get an equivalent cellular model, with 64gb space (to compensate for no microsd slot) you'd be paying 600 bucks for the mini.
the tab 7.7 is a year old as well and it still kicks the llama's ass. samsung nailed it, was ahead of the game, but somehow didn't know how to market the best tab in this size range.
i really wish that android apps would catch up on the tablet-optimized space. the apps taht are tablet optimized are a much better experience than blown up phone app interfaces.
i personally wish google would put some android specifications that all manufacturers have to follow. enough so it is easier to develop for without affecting the different choices we can get.
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That's why he have Paranoid Android - to change per app DPI.
I just installed Paranoid Android v2.5. It's a very good ROM. You can change the looks from tablet mode to phone mode, or hybrid mode - phanblet mode.
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That's why he have Paranoid Android - to change per app DPI.
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totally agree
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hello XDA folks,
iam planning to get a 10-11 inch (full HD) windows 8/8.1 tablet running on intel atom baytrail as my budget is limited, 550 pounds to be exact.please suggest any which is currently available or the ones which might be available by christmas time.
thanks in advance
ONly ones in that size are the asus t100 and the dell venue 11
T100 does not have a full hd screen but is a very nice tablet for that amount of money.
That leaves you with just the dell venue 11 then. Which is also set to be running at a higher clock speed than the t100 which for some reason is 1.3ghz which is as low as baytrail offers. The 8" tablets are higher clock speeds.
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That leaves you with just the dell venue 11 then. Which is also set to be running at a higher clock speed than the t100 which for some reason is 1.3ghz which is as low as baytrail offers. The 8" tablets are higher clock speeds.
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The t100 is nice i have one and so far its been fine, it can boost upto 1.86 and iv been able to play football manager 2014 on it, i think having 1080 screen makes things look to small on the screen.
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The t100 is nice i have one and so far its been fine, it can boost upto 1.86 and iv been able to play football manager 2014 on it, i think having 1080 screen makes things look to small on the screen.
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It can boost to 1.86 yes but its base clock is 1.3 whereas the other 8" tablets and dells venue 11 are at 1.8ghz as their base clock speed before turbo mode. I'm not trying to say the T100 is bad by the way. Its just the OP said he wanted full HD which the T100 doesnt have (although I agree with you on not having it on a 10" screen) and the venue is genuinely higher specced. It is alot more expensive though. T100 price is absolutely amazing.
you can consider the HP Omni 10 tablet too, 10.1 full hd touchscreen with z3770 bay trail.... 399 euro/dollars
thanks a lot guys.any idea when baytrail 10 inch from lenovo, acer,hp etc will come to market ?
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thanks a lot guys.any idea when baytrail 10 inch from lenovo, acer,hp etc will come to market ?
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HP's was mentioned (omni, which I hadnt heard of). Lenovo released the Miix 10 recently, but its clovertrail, seems they couldnt wait the matter of weeks for baytrail. Acer released a new 8" and also a haswell 10", no bay trail 10" yet.
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HP's was mentioned (omni, which I hadnt heard of). Lenovo released the Miix 10 recently, but its clovertrail, seems they couldnt wait the matter of weeks for baytrail. Acer released a new 8" and also a haswell 10", no bay trail 10" yet.
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it's a pity levono has clover trail, looks very good machine...but already old..
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HP's was mentioned (omni, which I hadnt heard of). Lenovo released the Miix 10 recently, but its clovertrail, seems they couldnt wait the matter of weeks for baytrail. Acer released a new 8" and also a haswell 10", no bay trail 10" yet.
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Acer P3 seems a sweet deal at 570 pounds.does anybody reviewed it here ?
Hello,
I am going to buy a tablet PC soon. I have decided to go for a Windows 8.1 tablet, which are available for about the same price as HDX
My options are:
Dell Venue 8 Pro
Acer Iconia W4
Lenovo Miix 2 8
Is the Intel Atom Z3740D processor in Venue 8 Pro better than the Intel Atom Z3740 in the other two?
The benchmark scores available on different review sites are conflicting. While the Iconia W4 is ahead with HDMI output, the Lenovo Miix 2 8 is officially supported by the upcoming ConsoleOS, which would allow dual booting Windows and Android, getting the best of both worlds.
Do you have any experience with any of these tablets? Suggestions Awaited.
Thanks
LaNoire said:
Hello,
I am going to buy a tablet PC soon. I have decided to go for a Windows 8.1 tablet, which are available for about the same price as HDX
My options are:
Dell Venue 8 Pro
Acer Iconia W4
Lenovo Miix 2 8
Is the Intel Atom Z3740D processor in Venue 8 Pro better than the Intel Atom Z3740 in the other two?
The benchmark scores available on different review sites are conflicting. While the Iconia W4 is ahead with HDMI output, the Lenovo Miix 2 8 is officially supported by the upcoming ConsoleOS, which would allow dual booting Windows and Android, getting the best of both worlds.
Do you have any experience with any of these tablets? Suggestions Awaited.
Thanks
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The difference between the Z3740 and Z3740D is miniscule, considering the benchmark data I've seen.
From your list I'd consider the Dell as the best choice - that is: if they finally managed to get the digitizer to work properly and last more than a week or two
Personally, I've got an Asus Vivotab Note 8. It's in the same category as the tablets you've listed. It comes with a Wacom Digitizer (same technology as in the Samsung Note phablets) which I consider to be an essential tool for the tablet.
The screen is just too small hit checkboxes etc with your finger
And about ConsoleOS: I'd be careful. If it's actually being released: great. But I wouldn't hold my breath. Have a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782798
There's a lot of information on it and why it looks like a scam
Fahrertuer said:
The difference between the Z3740 and Z3740D is miniscule, considering the benchmark data I've seen.
From your list I'd consider the Dell as the best choice - that is: if they finally managed to get the digitizer to work properly and last more than a week or two
Personally, I've got an Asus Vivotab Note 8. It's in the same category as the tablets you've listed. It comes with a Wacom Digitizer (same technology as in the Samsung Note phablets) which I consider to be an essential tool for the tablet.
The screen is just too small hit checkboxes etc with your finger
And about ConsoleOS: I'd be careful. If it's actually being released: great. But I wouldn't hold my breath. Have a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782798
There's a lot of information on it and why it looks like a scam
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Thank you for the input. The digitizer is of little use to me because my purpose is gaming. I know that these are entry level tablets, but they still can run some recent games at playable FPS. There are some videos on youtube where these tablets are shown running relatively newer games like Skyrim (2011) and Tomb Raider (2013). There is even a video where the VivoTab Note 8 is running GTA IV! Besides, you could run loads of older games and even PS2 games.
As for ConsoleOS, the one thing that makes it look real is that the company behind it, MMV, has in the past created an android based console. This console was reviewed by enGadget at MMV's office.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/13/iconsole-tv-x86-android-game-console/
I think I will watch some comparision videos and then make a decision.
Cheers
LaNoire said:
Thank you for the input. The digitizer is of little use to me because my purpose is gaming. I know that these are entry level tablets, but they still can run some recent games at playable FPS. There are some videos on youtube where these tablets are shown running relatively newer games like Skyrim (2011) and Tomb Raider (2013). There is even a video where the VivoTab Note 8 is running GTA IV! Besides, you could run loads of older games and even PS2 games.
As for ConsoleOS, the one thing that makes it look real is that the company behind it, MMV, has in the past created an android based console. This console was reviewed by enGadget at MMV's office.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/13/iconsole-tv-x86-android-game-console/
I think I will watch some comparision videos and then make a decision.
Cheers
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better do some research.....they never delivered on their iconsole.tv and iconsole.tv apps store that
they were going to deliver in Nov./Dec. 2013.........and simply jumped to consoleOS in what June 2014......
said they had been working "in stealth" mode for 18 months yet cannot produce any code / downloadable code for test builds / etc.
their going to produce a special Apps Store with consoleos also...yet they failed to deliver on the iconsole.tv one...!!!
everything is a lot of talk.....NOTHING verifiable by anyone...the press only puts out what their given...as they dump massive amounts of
press releases....oh and their videos and appearances at different Intel developer forums......yet no one in the press has shown a download,
or a test build that they have used to verify any of the claims....the press is only interested in page clicks to generate revenue...no time to verify anything with the tough questions that really matter....all they have shown is the same things that others Asus,Dell, etc. had already shown, before Microsoft and Google shut down dual-booting of Windows with Android......
most likely a scam...
Actually I Like The Dell Venu 8 pro But I Don't Know If It Still 32GB SSD
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