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Sense without 3.0

Hey everybody, before you start bashing about me using the search butten... I did, I was just unsuccessful. The thing is, I've used so many different types of roms and most of them work fine but always there seems to be a problem. What I'm trying to say is. Are there still recently updated Sense roms witch are not Sense 3.0 because I hate unstable roms, I've had so much trouble before. I'm looking for a as fast as possible rom with Sense 2.1 and one that keeps my phone alive longer than 5 hours. Right now I can't even find Sense 2.1 roms without all the flashy sense 3.0 skins and stuff. I did find some old stuff but like I was saying, I don't really like unstable stuff since my phone is killing me with the battery drain.
Does anyone have any suggestions for a recent sense 2.1 rom witch is fast, stable and good for the battery.
Thanks

No there is nothing. The sad truth of hd2 chefs since two months : all about updates. Stability and fixes ? They don't care about. Thank u for tytung and charansingh...
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Sense 3.0 is wayyy too buggy on the HD2 and in reality little or no progress has been made over the last few months as the issues have not really been resolved so im at a loss as to why someone would want to flash it on their phone, give me a solid stable build anyday (like Hyperdroid CM7) i don't miss sense in the slightest and i really cant see why people are so preoccupied with it!

jonny68 said:
Sense 3.0 is wayyy too buggy on the HD2 and in reality little or no progress has been made over the last few months as the issues have not really been resolved so im at a loss as to why someone would want to flash it on their phone, give me a solid stable build anyday (like Hyperdroid CM7) i don't miss sense in the slightest and i really cant see why people are so preoccupied with it!
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sense 3 can be buggy but i prefere the look of sense over a CM7 or any stock gingerbread as they look ugly compared to sense and the keyboard on gingerbread is godawful compared to a sense keyboard

Hey,
just try
[13.Apr.11][RAM HD] imilka's RAM Desire HD v2.0 [Des HD][A2SD][K:Raf1.9OC]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954369&highlight=imilka
I've used it since 13 Apr. and with the GPS-Fix it was absolut perfect. Wich means no Bugs or something.
Batterydrain was ok. 3mA in Standby with Wifi on.
Uptime with normal usage 24 Hours.
Hope it helps!

Yeah but many FC on games...

Played a lot. Don't get some FC at all

Richy99 said:
sense 3 can be buggy but i prefere the look of sense over a CM7 or any stock gingerbread as they look ugly compared to sense and the keyboard on gingerbread is godawful compared to a sense keyboard
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I actually think CM7 looks brilliant, i use smart keyboard pro dont really bother with the gingerbread keyboard.

[21 APR][RAM HD] imilka's Glacier Sense v4.0 [MT4G][A2SD][K:raf1.9OC] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919148
the best stable and fully working android rom for the hd2
thanks imilka for his great effort

ham2z said:
[21 APR][RAM HD] imilka's Glacier Sense v4.0 [MT4G][A2SD][K:raf1.9OC] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919148
the best stable and fully working android rom for the hd2
thanks imilka for his great effort
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Thanks to all the Dev's who made the HD2 to this incredible phone!

jonny68 said:
Sense 3.0 is wayyy too buggy on the HD2 and in reality little or no progress has been made over the last few months as the issues have not really been resolved so im at a loss as to why someone would want to flash it on their phone, give me a solid stable build anyday (like Hyperdroid CM7) i don't miss sense in the slightest and i really cant see why people are so preoccupied with it!
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This ^
Hyperdroid and Typhoon are both EXCELLENT roms. I am running Hyperdroid right now. Battery drain is minimal.

It seems like the majority of the HD2 ROMs are Sense ROMs. Are there any good non-Sense ROMs, even stock Android ROMs for the HD2, or does everything pretty much include Sense?

Nope, Typhoon and Hyperdroid are great and faster, as stated in the post above yours...

you should try the boyppc shiftpda i have been using his Roms from the begining and never had any problems they just work good battery life but you need to manage it well but its a shame he has stoped usig the DAF install for his latest Roms but give them a go see how you like them

Any recommended stable and smooth SD ROM?

Devilson0103 said:
Any recommended stable and smooth SD ROM?
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why don't you try the SuperRam froyo 1.5? it's veeeryy stable.; but the only thing i don't like, is that there is no stock battery % for the battery.. and i don't want to use widgets as they drain your battery!

i think that the only sense gingerbread rom that will be ok for hd2 will the one that finally htc is going to release for htc desire and i hope that someone of our devs will port it.personally after testing of allmost all sense roms i see that the only one that works with the smallest lags is the roms that are based in desire`s sense like first nand rom by dft or the one from bauner.the other sense roms were made for mobiles with better hardware from hd2 like better cpu and more ram and i think it is very difficult to fit in hd2.

jonny68 said:
Sense 3.0 is wayyy too buggy on the HD2 and in reality little or no progress has been made over the last few months as the issues have not really been resolved so im at a loss as to why someone would want to flash it on their phone, give me a solid stable build anyday (like Hyperdroid CM7) i don't miss sense in the slightest and i really cant see why people are so preoccupied with it!
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You are very wrong. There has been ALLOT of progress over last few months as far as 2.1+3.0 or just 3.0.
Check out the rom in my sig, its very stable and fast, Infact its much more stable and faster then the standard DHD sense roms that have allot of lag and the need to reboot various times and have to wait till system settles etc. The one in my sig has no lag and works virtually straight away.
The only bugs really are camcorder (which is nearly fixed + you can use non-HTC in mean time) and minor gfx bugs that are hardly noticeable and the added features well make up for it.
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It seems like the majority of the HD2 ROMs are Sense ROMs. Are there any good non-Sense ROMs, even stock Android ROMs for the HD2, or does everything pretty much include Sense?
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Well im not sure if you have been looking with your eyes closed or what because there is MANY non-sense roms available.
If you want a AOSP stock rom then you should get the NexusHD2 roms, either froyo or gingerbread, They are very fast, very stable and as close to stock as you will get.

DannyBiker said:
No there is nothing. The sad truth of hd2 chefs since two months : all about updates. Stability and fixes ? They don't care about. Thank u for tytung and charansingh...
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA Premium App
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Sadly, i have to agree with this.. I dont see a point in releasing half finished ROMS and then updates that don't really fix things...
Sense (non 3) roms are less and less available, but thankfully we have guys like tytung and charansing havibg roms ou there that work for 100%
Dont get me wrong, i respect and appreciate the efforts, but i dont see the use of 20 releases where all of them have the same flaws and nobody can fix that until we have the desire source for GB.
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KrewsialNL said:
Sadly, i have to agree with this.. I dont see a point in releasing half finished ROMS and then updates that don't really fix things...
Sense (non 3) roms are less and less available, but thankfully we have guys like tytung and charansing havibg roms ou there that work for 100%
Dont get me wrong, i respect and appreciate the efforts, but i dont see the use of 20 releases where all of them have the same flaws and nobody can fix that until we have the desire source for GB.
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What you and all the other newbies here don't seem to understand or grasp is that this site is called xda-developers and this forum is for developments. Things dont always just "work" they develop. What doesn't work now will work later, that's just how it is. Even the most stable roms like NexusHD2 etc didnt work properly in beginning.
The point of these releases that have bugs is so that people can test, leave feedback etc and so dev can work on developing the build.
If you dont enjoy trying new builds, tweaking roms or generally playing with them you can stick to NexusHD2 but for the people like myself who do enjoy the whole process we have a choice.

Your favorite / the best roms.

Rate from 1-10 in terms of:
Looks:
Speed:
Battery Life:
Stabability:

Any rom developed by aamikam
Looks:10(sense is so pretty)
Speed:7(Sense is a bit slower than aosp)
Battery:10(Sense gives me the best battery life i have ever seen on my phone)
Stability:10(everything always works)
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Currently my favorite ROM is MIUI. It's so much different than any other ROM and there's a ton of customization.
Looks: easy 10
Speed: not the fastest ROM but quick. I'll give it an 8
Battery life: easy 10. I get the better battery life than any other ROM
Stability: 8 - depends on the build but all in all pretty stable.
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man its all really personal opinion but ill give it my best review seeing as how ive used all of the ones that are available for the shift "i think"
AOSP ROMS: CM7 (Cyanogenmod 7) and Shift Deck
AOSP DEFINITION:Stock Pure Google Android. doesnt get much simpler than that.
Shift Deck: This is about as AOSP as it gets its pure stock android (think of a nexus S) Shift Deck like most AOSP roms gives great battery life. I find making it a little over a day not very hard with quite some usuage. The speed is very slick too.
My rating
Looks:7 (an opinated question)
Speed:10
Battery Life:9
Stability: 10
Features: 6
CM7: This is AOSP with a lot of different features inside of it that are hard to go through all of them. but basically if you like the look of AOSP but want more customization options and features CM7 is a great way to go
My Rating
Looks: 7
Speed 10
Battery Life:9
Stability: 8.5(only because its still in nightly builds and there are a few problems)
Features:8 (more than stock AOSP and some good ones at that)
Evervolv: Think of Shift Deck with a different stock launcher. Its codenamed Creo and has a couple different features. for that purpose to me it recieves the same score as Shift Deck
SENSE ROMS
Sense in general is what the shift comes stock with. An overlay on android made by HTC to bring further customization for the purpose of length i will not include Stock Sense 2.1
Sense 3.0 Kingdom Port: This is a full Sense 3.0 port for the evo shift its elegant and sexy and jam packed with customization. Now HTC did state Sense 3.0 would only work on NEWER devices and it does show in the port. on a stock kernel it does get really laggy with memory issues.
MY rating
Looks:9.5( i dont give looks a 10 because it sort of opiniated)
Speed:5 (it works but to me unusable)
Battery Life:7 (the port defeinently takes a toll on the battery
Features: 10
Stability: 4
MikShift-G Sense 2.1+3.0: This is based off Sense 2.1 with 3.0 features added into it. Personally this is one of my favorites. Its got a great mix of 3.0 features so you dont feel left behind and out of date and with aamikams optimizing it runs beautifully. I dont notice lag per say but there are a couple times things take just a tad bit longer to load. Added Sense 3.0 Features Include -Lockscreen,Weather,Messaging, Task Manager, and probably a couple others im forgetting
Looks:9.1 (lol)
Speed.9.5
Battery Life:9 (As good or sometimes better than AOSP)
Features:9
Stability: 9.9 (even the beta was fantastic only one KB light problem that is still in the official build)
SupremeSense 2.1+3.0. So you like the sound of Mikshift-G but you miss that 3D rosie and 3D widgets from Sense 3.0? Well here you go. SupremeSense is based off Mikshift-G but with a couple nice features Including 3D Sense 3.0 Launcher, and Darktremmors A2SD. This is a little bit more memory heavy so there is some lag but definently still usable
Looks:9.4
Speed:8.5
Battery Life:9 (same as Mikshift-G)
Features: 9.2
Stability:9
MIUI ROMS
We have a few miui ports and there basically the same just newer versions so im just going to review miui in general
MIUI (I think its said like "MY-U-I") is very umm "different" or in alot of ways its not different. if you have ever used or seen an iphone then you have a sense (no pun intended) of what the MIUI launcher is like. Its based of of AOSP but it doesnt look like it. It has an iOS type feel to it. It has no app drawer all your icons are on the homescreens and you scroll left and right through them. you have the ability to make folders like in iOS which seems to be an essential part in MIUI. You have a lockscreen sort of like Sense 1.0-2.1.
Its got a different way of handling text messages. and menu systems and the whole UI of the phone has its own unique feel that you have to try out to completley understand. MIUI currently does not support 4G so if you use it your SOL. but it is definently worth checking out
It does run across MMS issues sometimes too. Miui has its own personal theme manager that will theme anything from sounds to design asthetics to bootanimations, and lockscreens including options for sense 3.0 type lockscreens. its a very complete theming process. Think of it as HTC Hub on Steroids.
My Rating:
Look:8.9(once again opiniated question)
Speed:9 (generally very slick)
Battery Life:9 (AOSP like Battery Life)
Stability: 7.5 (this is miui's lowest point)
Features. 9 (its very unique in features)
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I believe i have covered every ROM in our development section please let me know if i forgot any

Thanks for the overview notsointeresting!
Evo SHIFT

Enraged21 said:
Thanks for the overview notsointeresting!
Evo SHIFT
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No problem just trying to help
and since i flash anything that has the term "flashable" in its name i thought i might as well lol

yes thanks a bunch man. covered everything lol

Lol. Your overview made me wanna tried out mik mik rom. Never tried it before, but I never was a sense type of person.
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Enraged21 said:
Lol. Your overview made me wanna tried out mik mik rom. Never tried it before, but I never was a sense type of person.
Evo SHIFT
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Its an outstanding ROM. but if you just dont like the design asthetics of sense then no you wont like it.
but all the problems people say they have with sense is eliminated in the rom
I am running Supreme Sense which is based of Mikshift-G (as i said in the review lol) and at 72% battery life i am going 8 hours and 8 min (reading it off my phone as i type) with wifi going the whole time, gps, lots of texts a few voice calls and LOTS of web browsing.
The lag people expierence with sense is compltley gone it runs great and smooth just as fast as AOSP. Some apps may take half a second more to load tho
and you gotta love the sense 3 lockscreen haha

Thanks notsointeresting, I just got this phone and have been wondering what way I wanted to go on it in terms of what rom to put on it. I am coming from a Samsung Transform so almost any rom is going to run faster and smoother then the best rom and kernal package could give me on the transform. Based on your review I am trying the MikShift-G Sense 1.4 so far so good really enjoy the sense feel and look. Thinking of trying Supreme Sense but would like to find a video of it before going through the trouble of downloading it and setting it up.
Not to hijack the thread but could you tell me even in a PM your review of kernals available?

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Thanks notsointeresting, I just got this phone and have been wondering what way I wanted to go on it in terms of what rom to put on it. I am coming from a Samsung Transform so almost any rom is going to run faster and smoother then the best rom and kernal package could give me on the transform. Based on your review I am trying the MikShift-G Sense 1.4 so far so good really enjoy the sense feel and look. Thinking of trying Supreme Sense but would like to find a video of it before going through the trouble of downloading it and setting it up.
Not to hijack the thread but could you tell me even in a PM your review of kernals available?
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Believe me I would love to haha. But unless your on an AOSP rom your SOL (sadly out of luck haha) because HTC has not provided the source code for the evo shift yet so developers can not make kernels. It's a serious GPL violation an people (including me) have been sending tweets and posting on twitters face book wall saying something like ( @HTC We still need you to release the source code for the EVO Shift 4G #GPL #Android) they will have to release it soon though and I'm thinking when that time comes I might make a dedicated thread for kernel and roms and put my reviews and information on them and let people leave reviews or what not. But that would depend on if people where interested.
Also check out my EpicBlue theme for Milshift-G it finally supports 1.4

notsointeresting said:
Its an outstanding ROM. but if you just dont like the design asthetics of sense then no you wont like it.
but all the problems people say they have with sense is eliminated in the rom
I am running Supreme Sense which is based of Mikshift-G (as i said in the review lol) and at 72% battery life i am going 8 hours and 8 min (reading it off my phone as i type) with wifi going the whole time, gps, lots of texts a few voice calls and LOTS of web browsing.
The lag people expierence with sense is compltley gone it runs great and smooth just as fast as AOSP. Some apps may take half a second more to load tho
and you gotta love the sense 3 lockscreen haha
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You did leave out all the customizable lockscreens with miui, I have the sense 3 lockscreen as well running the latest miui.us.
Sent from my MiuiSpeedy

Rooster85 said:
You did leave out all the customizable lockscreens with miui, I have the sense 3 lockscreen as well running the latest miui.us.
Sent from my MiuiSpeedy
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Not only lock screens but customizable notification bar, icons, boot animation and fonts. All easily customized from the theme manager.
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crump84 said:
Not only lock screens but customizable notification bar, icons, boot animation and fonts. All easily customized from the theme manager.
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I did not know the later versions had a sense 3 lockscreen? Is it a remake of it or is it a port of the exact one. I just ask so I can put it on my post.
And yes your right I did leave out theme manager for miui it does have a very simple way to download and use complete themes to change everything from sounds to looks to bootanimations.
Edit: I added that information in the first post I made. Thanks very much Rooster85 and Crump84

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I did not know the later versions had a sense 3 lockscreen? Is it a remake of it or is it a port of the exact one. I just ask so I can put it on my post.
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The Sense 3 lockscreen screen has to be added through the theme manager. There are threads dedicated to just miui lock screens, Sense 3 is just one of the many options.
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The Sense 3 lockscreen screen has to be added through the theme manager. There are threads dedicated to just miui lock screens, Sense 3 is just one of the many options.
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Many thanks man.
The post has been updated with more accurate information
I have not flashed miui since 1.7.5 I think? And then went to mikshift-G and haven't tried anything since then but looks like I need to take a look at miui again

I would highly suggest it, it was 7.something where a lot of cool changes were made. I believe the sense lockscreen its a exact port or at least it looks EXACTLY the same as the mikshift [email protected]
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Rooster85 said:
I would highly suggest it, it was 7.something where a lot of cool changes were made. I believe the sense lockscreen its a exact port or at least it looks EXACTLY the same as the mikshift [email protected]
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MIUI is great and all I really like it. But until MIUI starts supporting 4G I can't use it for more than a couple hours to figure out all the features and what ill miss when I flash back.
I live in texas so its the one of the most heavily covered 4G areas (if not THE most heavily covered area) in the U.S so I need it
Edit: BTW OP I hope were not hijacking your thread here. We are talking about ROM's and our opinions so it shouldn't but were not exactly reviewing them so please let us know lol

notsointeresting said:
MIUI is great and all I really like it. But until MIUI starts supporting 4G I can't use it for more than a couple hours to figure out all the features and what ill miss when I flash back.
I live in texas so its the one of the most heavily covered 4G areas (if not THE most heavily covered area) in the U.S so I need it
Edit: BTW OP I hope were not hijacking your thread here. We are talking about ROM's and our opinions so it shouldn't but were not exactly reviewing them so please let us know lol
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Yeah, i hear ya on that... Without 4G I wouldn't have a cell phone... Where I live my 4G is sometimes worse than 3G speeds... My 3G is usually at 1x speeds and my talk varies... For all that I've tried Evervolv and it messed up my phone. Hated it. I currently use the Cyanogen Nightlies. They for me offer the best of everything. Speed, customization, battery life... With the theme chooser they can look basically how ever you want. With beautiful widgets you can get some sense like widgets and others. Many launcher options. I use ADW and its a perfect blend of stability and customization. I've heard very good things about Shift deck. In my opinion sense is super slow compared to AOSP. People have said that the Mikshift G runs like AOSP. But to me, i can see the difference. So I'm gonna vote for plain and simple cyanogen
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A suggest about ROM but...

Hello everyone, I'm new in this forum. Actually I use a RCMIX 3D (sense 3.5) ROM which is quite satisfactory in terms of battery consumption.
However, considering the fact that I do not go behind the latest developments in graphics, velocity etc, I looking for a new ROM that, of all, offers exceptional durability of the battery during daily use (data, internet, push email, sync a few). I do not know about what really orient me ... I accept all the advice possible, regardless of whether it is "sense" or not. Thanks

i personally Think the rcmix sense 3.5 rom is one of the best out there right now..if you are not satisfied try android revolution, thats sense 3.0 though

infexis said:
i personally Think the rcmix sense 3.5 rom is one of the best out there right now..if you are not satisfied try android revolution, thats sense 3.0 though
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Is better for battery consumption?
I've read about HydrOG3n...

my dhd lasted about 2.5 Days on last charge, and that is pretty Amazing in my mind (with rcmix runny rom) but android revolution is a Little bit better on that Point i think..no superultrabig difference, but you should get a coupple of hours extra i think.
btw: i am coming from revolution to rcmix and the thing that made me stay on this one is the sense 3.5 (ofcourse) and the awesome rcmix setting menu that lets you change pretty much whatever you like, a bit like wannabe cyanogenmod =) really cool i think

imo, LM kernel roms (CM7 and miui based ones such as hydrogen) have excellent battery life. Stock CM7 also has OK battery life.
Radios should also affect the battery life

infexis said:
my dhd lasted about 2.5 Days on last charge, and that is pretty Amazing in my mind (with rcmix runny rom) but android revolution is a Little bit better on that Point i think..no superultrabig difference, but you should get a coupple of hours extra i think.
btw: i am coming from revolution to rcmix and the thing that made me stay on this one is the sense 3.5 (ofcourse) and the awesome rcmix setting menu that lets you change pretty much whatever you like, a bit like wannabe cyanogenmod =) really cool i think
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i would like to change ARHD 6.1.1 since many bugs are there......
is there any bugs on RCMIC runny ??????

my oppinion, no.. the rom is as perfect as i wish it to be =)
but anyways - i did not had any problems with revolution either

The best ROM so far (for me) is CoreDroid 8.1 . I have some minor problems, but it's excellent ROM. Try it. And is very beautiful.

tihomirone said:
The best ROM so far (for me) is CoreDroid 8.1 . I have some minor problems, but it's excellent ROM. Try it. And is very beautiful.
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what are CoreDroid 8.1 rom specs?
How long does your battery with the full use of your rom?

cubases. Here are some screenshots of a few ROMs to help you see some visual differences.
And here is the up-to-date list of Desire HD ROMs here at XDA. That way you can click on each one to visit the thread and see any specs or info for yourself.
Personally - I use MIUI Freshly Squeezed at the moment as I really love the complete UI change. (Having said that I don't like the latest theme so much with the latest release but I change it back to the original or different theme at the touch of a button.) MIUI feels like a completely different device. That said - I try many ROMs and enjoy most of them unless I'm put off by the visuals/colors etc.

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what are CoreDroid 8.1 rom specs?
How long does your battery with the full use of your rom?
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I think you go to wrong direction. I don't think there's a significant difference between the ROMs according to power consumption. Now I am not with CoreDroid 8.1 . I think it's with 2.3.4 kernel (don't think, that if was with 2.3.5 it will be 100% better) .
With full use every ROM will give you max 1 day. With a moderate use - 2 days with no problems with CoreDroid/RCMix/ARHD roms. The main consumption is from the lcd (ROM independant).
Some advices - switch off every antenna you don't use - BT/Wi-Fi/mobile network/3G . Especially switch off mobile network and set everything to manual update. 3G network also consumes a lot of energy. For calls 2G is fair enough.
Well if you need network access any time a day and automatic update - nothing you can do. You will charge the phone every day.
And other advice - charge the phone with USB cable (on a PC) at any time. Don't wait the battery to fall. Just watch to keep the memory in 20-80% (bellow 20 and above 80 it will use more battery recharge cycles).

switch off every antenna you don't use - BT/Wi-Fi/mobile network/3G . Especially switch off mobile network and set everything to manual update. 3G network also consumes a lot of energy. For calls 2G is fair enough.
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Could you suggest me any apps that, automatically, switch on-off beetwen 2g and 3g?

ArHD....but to be fair anything we say is irrelevant,ive flashed numerous Roms including runny,but kept going back to ArHD.
Try them all,
Sense 3.5 I'm not a fan of,but as I said we like what we like.
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cubases said:
Could you suggest me any apps that, automatically, switch on-off beetwen 2g and 3g?
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snowpatrol1702 said:
ive flashed numerous Roms including runny,but kept going back to ArHD.
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Sorry, in your experience, what differencies have you found beetwen runny and ArHD about battery consumption?

I get a day and a half from arhd
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I've flashed loads of Roms and I think miui has by far the best battery life. I use my phone ALOT and I'm getting through a whole day with one charge.
With most sense Rom's I was only getting through work. 7am - 5pm. I've read a few times miui freshly squeeze is better but haven't tried it yet. I'm happy with what I've got at the moment.
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snowpatrol1702 said:
I get a day and a half from arhd
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I was lucky to get 12 hours. Lol
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ChrisHRocks said:
With most sense Rom's I was only getting through work. 7am - 5pm.
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It's my standard also!!!
But the thing that annoys me is to use the phone very much limiting the use of fear of not getting even a night!
What are the pros and cons of MIUI?

cubases said:
Could you suggest me any apps that, automatically, switch on-off beetwen 2g and 3g?
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I'm using juicedefender ultimate with aosp support, you can configure a lot of option of the network usage!
On MIUI rom, I've used it a lot, great rom, nice UI(iPhone app management style with Samsung style screen customization) , a lot of customizable setting, nice theme and useful features and good battery life, I always suggest to try it!
Now I'm testing DeSenseNG based on official sense 3 for DHD (love htc app) and I think is very good room, smooth and with a little UV a really good battery!
Sorry for bad english :-(
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Is this the end at gingerbread?

Well guys i was thinking about it. Also thinking about other sense devices that may come with ICS and thinking about if it can run with a sense 3.5 on it or sense 4.0 or something. So I was thinking that eventually our devices cant be upped to the higher sense versions eventually. So I was wondering about the life of AOSP. When will our devices stop being able to run straight android?
When I say run I refer to the ability to be usable. None of this constant reboots or all to common issues, radio network, wifi drops, reboots etc.
I predict a year until our devices can not fully support the next sense version if 3.5 can be run reliably. I give straight Android till the next update. I am still unsure of how ICS will run on our devices very well but I do think it will be and will have the people from major AOSP makers/flavor teams out there getting it to work.
This update brings duel core in a year it will be quad core etc. and follow suit.
What are you peoples ideas? How long can our device stay breathing?

I have none of those problems with aosp?
Sense already should not be run on our phones because of the hog it is. I don't think Google will be outing all these phones next year.
Deck's + SZ + SuperCharger script + ViperMod script.

That is why I think AOSP will be the only way to go further.
Our Devices Running sense are pretty much maxed out if we ever get 3.5 to run correctly.

I've been running cm7 nightlies exclusively for almost a year
Now and i think i only had rebooted with a really old nightly and the GPS issue that's now fixes with a driver flash. I don't know what could cause the issues you have. He'll I TRY to break my phone to make sure it'll run all the time. Still haven't really been able to do much more than slow it down massively for a few minutes.
I love how sense 3.0 looks but not how piggishly fat it is
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I would run sense 24/7 if it had features I need
Deck's + SZ + SuperCharger script + ViperMod script.

Sense is great I love it how it feels the keyboard the widgets etc. It's just I realize our hardware is well outdated now. I think ics will run fine but a port of a ics sense ROM might be a bit much. If.It's got Sie 3.5 it might run but sense 4.0 won't run great i can just tell.
I tried aosp way back when but like sense ink if ics brags a lot of functionality and a reasons o glad aosp I might do that but till then sense it is.
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Not sure what others are doing for the EVO but as soon as ics hits ill be working on it for the EVO. Remember salvagemod was one of the first gb Rome for the EVO. We will be bringing android updates to the EVO for as long as we can. Shot even the g1 and mytouch run gb. I'm sure the EVO will keep up for a while. We hope.
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I hope ICS will support my EVO. I hope as many phones as possible get ICS love, especially considering hwa which should theoretically improve the performance of every phone it runs on.
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lithid-cm said:
Not sure what others are doing for the EVO but as soon as ics hits ill be working on it for the EVO. Remember salvagemod was one of the first gb Rome for the EVO. We will be bringing android updates to the EVO for as long as we can. Shot even the g1 and mytouch run gb. I'm sure the EVO will keep up for a while. We hope.
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I believe our phones can run the future updates for android its the sense part that I think will limit our ability to keep progressing with sense. And I appreciate the developers who constantly work on our devices and do donate to them.
All things aside Android doesn't take many system resources but sense can be a pain to get to work correctly if our devices can handle sense 4.0....
Maybe a hyrbid but my theory is sense 4.0 + 3.5 hybrid is the end of sense for us. maybe a update beyond ICS as well. maybe a 2.4-2.5

cmsjr123 said:
Sense is great I love it how it feels the keyboard the widgets etc. It's just I realize our hardware is well outdated now. I think ics will run fine but a port of a ics sense ROM might be a bit much. If.It's got Sie 3.5 it might run but sense 4.0 won't run great i can just tell.
I tried aosp way back when but like sense ink if ics brags a lot of functionality and a reasons o glad aosp I might do that but till then sense it is.
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I agree. Sense has some great widgets and integration into parts of the system like the gallery app with Facebook and flickr. I have run AOSP ROMs, some for quite a while (and I'm a bit of a flashahaulic) they run super smooth and they are quite stable now as well, but I always try different sense ROMs when I see then posted so I can try to get the best of both worlds.
Currently I'm running Salvage-Mod-Sense which is a 2.1 port from Barnacles. It's the best I've found for sense ROMs that includes some minor features from Sense 3.x (ie. lock screen, camera app) but for the most part is stock sense 2.1 which runs beautifully on my phone. This with the chop suey SBC kernel gives me great battery life and all the best of sense. So much faster than Synergy or Kingdom because it leaves out all the Sense 3.x stuff.
All this rambling on my part comes to this, I agree that ICS will be awesome on our phones, but I doubt a sense based version will be feasible. Sense 3.x already runs terrible on our devices (at least in my experience, but maybe I'm just a performance whore, lol).

The new Sense 3.5 ROMs are exciting and running smoothly as well. I believe if there is a way to remove all the bloat and strip the ROMs down these devices can go for another 2yrs with decent performance.

azteccrew5 said:
The new Sense 3.5 ROMs are exciting and running smoothly as well. I believe if there is a way to remove all the bloat and strip the ROMs down these devices can go for another 2yrs with decent performance.
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That's my feeling at this moment. Especially as devs get ICS releases to tweak.

Sheep Mentality

No offence intended by the title of this thread, but I've noticed that all of the latest rom releases are all pimpin out sense 3.
To be honest, I find the lack of current development on sense 2 roms disappointing. Im currently using the last version of Leedroid 3.3.3 and occasionally switch to ARHD 5.2.6 as these were the last x2 sense roms which I enjoy.
I realise that sense 3 is the latest from HTC but in my opinion its bloated and sluggish with annoying 3d scrolling and a lack of scrollable wallpaper.
So my question is this... why the mass exodus to sense 3? Does anyone else feel the same as me?

Honestly, sense is pretty useless for me. Laggy, a resources hog and huge performance loss.
CM7 rules.

I also find this very disturbing/slightly annoying. However since I'm not a dev I'm still grateful for the wide variety of ROMs available.
That being said I found the stock Sense ROM to be awesomely quick but in my "the grass is greener on the other side moment" I removed it and put on some others... I'm now on CM7 and waiting for ICS AOSP for the DHD.

I guess it's just because everyone tends to build on the newest base available. Once some Gingerbread RUUs leaked everyone started building with them, and it wasn't long before the remaining Froyo builds stopped being actively updated. Same thing has happened now with Sense 3 - test builds have leaked and people have moved on, and if/when an official update comes out you'll struggle to find any actively maintained ROMs using earlier versions. The same thing will happen with Sense 3.5, then Ice Cream Sandwich, then who knows.
You can't fight progress.

Well...
At first I thought the sense 3 ROMs were pretty laggy in rosie, but with the super smooth and liquid smooth patches, and all the work done by others, I feel that they're now as smooth as they were always meant to be =)
Apart from that, if you want super silky smooth over nice transparent looks and still be very functional, I'd suggest MIUI with a nice theme. I went to the SCI MIUI ROM a while back and it's amazing, although for a change now and then I do go back to a sense ROM for a week or so and I'd recommend looking at the liquid patch.
Sense for nice looks, along with whatever patches our amazing devs come up with for speed and functionality.
MIUI with custom launcher for a fantastic compromise between AOSP speed and looks, along with that fantastic pull down and battery (and did I mention the speed?) (Also, I think I might be bias towards this)
Cyanogenmod for pure speed and battery
But anyways, that wasn't the point =/
Sense 3 with the patches is as smooth as sense 2 was, and most things like the 3d and bloated-ness can be got rid of or are the same as sense 2 =) Plus you can activate the scrollable wallpaper in some of them
Edit: Sorry that is a rant and a half.

gcarter said:
To be honest, I find the lack of current development on sense 2 roms disappointing.
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No one asked you to come to XDA. If you don't like what's on offer, develop your own. The Dev's develop what they want, they just happen to share it with everyone else.
gcarter said:
Im currently using the last version of Leedroid 3.3.3 and occasionally switch to ARHD 5.2.6 as these were the last x2 sense roms which I enjoy.
I realise that sense 3 is the latest from HTC but in my opinion its bloated and sluggish with annoying 3d scrolling and a lack of scrollable wallpaper.
So my question is this... why the mass exodus to sense 3? Does anyone else feel the same as me?
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Perhaps not, If you like LeeDroid 3.3.3 & ARHD 5.2.6, stick with them.
Also I could see a few people being unhappy labelled as "Sheep", just because they want the latest & most current versions.

andyharney said:
No one asked you to come to XDA. If you don't like what's on offer, develop your own. The Dev's develop what they want, they just happen to share it with everyone else.
Perhaps not, If you like LeeDroid 3.3.3 & ARHD 5.2.6, stick with them.
Also I could see a few people being unhappy labelled as "Sheep", just because they want the latest & most current versions.
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Actually was referring to the rom devs as sheep. Was kinda hoping for some die hard devs to say no to sense 3 and stick with 2, but hey

Joey93 said:
At first I thought the sense 3 ROMs were pretty laggy in rosie, but with the super smooth and liquid smooth patches, and all the work done by others, I feel that they're now as smooth as they were always meant to be =)
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The current sense 3/3.5 ROMs are indeed super smooth. I would get bored in a day every time I flashed a new Sense ROM, but what brought me back to Sense is the new RCMix3d Runny v3.2. Once you use Sense 3.5, its difficult to go back to even Sense 3, so I'd been waiting for this to stabilize a bit. And I must say, the RC team has made this ROM buttery smooth. Its perfect so far. Falling in love with Sense again.
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gcarter said:
Actually was referring to the rom devs as sheep. Was kinda hoping for some die hard devs to say no to sense 3 and stick with 2, but hey
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Why dont you give Runny a try, you might understand why most devs are moving forward and trying to make Sense 3.5 work optimally on our phones.

crazyjc81 said:
The current sense 3/3.5 ROMs are indeed super smooth. I would get bored in a day every time I flashed a new Sense ROM, but what brought me back to Sense is the new RCMix3d Runny v3.2. Once you use Sense 3.5, its difficult to go back to even Sense 3, so I'd been waiting for this to stabilize a bit. And I must say, the RC team has made this ROM buttery smooth. Its perfect so far. Falling in love with Sense again.
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Why dont you give Runny a try, you might understand why most devs are moving forward and trying to make Sense 3.5 work optimally on our phones.
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Just out walking the dog at the moment, but on my return home... Do you know what... I think I will give this runny rom a test drive
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gcarter said:
No offence intended by the title of this thread, but I've noticed that all of the latest rom releases are all pimpin out sense 3.
To be honest, I find the lack of current development on sense 2 roms disappointing. Im currently using the last version of Leedroid 3.3.3 and occasionally switch to ARHD 5.2.6 as these were the last x2 sense roms which I enjoy.
I realise that sense 3 is the latest from HTC but in my opinion its bloated and sluggish with annoying 3d scrolling and a lack of scrollable wallpaper.
So my question is this... why the mass exodus to sense 3? Does anyone else feel the same as me?
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The main reason alot of developers are going with the new sense is that they know all future updates will include it and the old coding for the older sense will no longer work when making and configuring roms.

I like sense 3 granted the lock screens ****,i flashed the ol pull down lock to my arhd rom
Sense 3 is good but my opinion. Sense 3.5 is the ****e you need to watch out for,hopefully htc will drop it and move to 4.0
For ice cream
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snowpatrol1702 said:
I like sense 3 granted the lock screens ****,i flashed the ol pull down lock to my arhd rom
Sense 3 is good but my opinion. Sense 3.5 is the ****e you need to watch out for,hopefully htc will drop it and move to 4.0
For ice cream
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Sense 3 is good but my opinion. Sense 3.5 is the ****e you need to watch out for
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Explain, please

gcarter said:
No offence intended by the title of this thread, but I've noticed that all of the latest rom releases are all pimpin out sense 3.
To be honest, I find the lack of current development on sense 2 roms disappointing. Im currently using the last version of Leedroid 3.3.3 and occasionally switch to ARHD 5.2.6 as these were the last x2 sense roms which I enjoy.
I realise that sense 3 is the latest from HTC but in my opinion its bloated and sluggish with annoying 3d scrolling and a lack of scrollable wallpaper.
So my question is this... why the mass exodus to sense 3? Does anyone else feel the same as me?
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I hope u've tried Ginger S / IceCream edition of it

Daedric,nothing really,its more the appearence of 3.5 i dont like,reminds me of the iphone. Thats my bugbear i think,i tried runnys rom,didnt gel,if someone themes it with honey sense maybe but...who knows
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ARHD 5.2.6 is my all-time favourite ROM. It's stable, smooth, fast and has amazing battery life not to mention it works with PureBlackEspresso skin (was never updated for Sense 3.0).
However, seeing all the new bells and whistles which are included in Sense 3.5 I tried Runny v1.5 when that was the latest release. Whilst I was impressed with how it looked and the cool extras like RCTweaks and Beats Audio (I've since decided SRS is better), it just didn't impress me with performance or battery life so I went back to ARHD 5.2.6.
Anyway, last night I decided to give Runny another try and flashed v3.3. All I can say is WOW! What a difference now... it's actually runs as nice as it looks. So fast and smooth, and appears to be very stable too. It's too early to comment on battery life but so far it seems acceptable.
My only gripe with Sense 3.5 is that you loose scrolling wallpaper in favour of the 3D Rosie. I do prefer scrolling wallpaper, but hey... you can't have everything and it's a small price to pay for all the other cool stuff you gain.
I still have ARHD 5.2.6 as my main Nandroid though... it will be a cold day in hell before I get rid of that!

From my last comment...i was talking ****e,now running runny 3.3 honey sense hd on board and nexus boot with customized uot kitchen bits. Uv scripted. Sweet
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