So, with it's desktop sized resolution, how can we set our browser to display "desktop" pages instead of "mobile" pages?
Donaldjbennett said:
So, with it's desktop sized resolution, how can we set our browser to display "desktop" pages instead of "mobile" pages?
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Type in browser address bar 'about:useragent'
It won't stick after reboot probably, we need a browser tweak for that I think.
The about useragent is short lived...have to do it each time you powerip again.
Samsung is idiotic for not offering desktop options with screens like this.
Best options? ...third party browsers.
Two best (ie:fastest) with desktop options?
#1 boat browser mini FASTer than stock.
#2 Opera Mobile..
both have desktop settings and displays.
Faster than dolphin or Miren.
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Is there an easy way to make all pages 'think' that the browser is a desktop? Like if I go to google.com I want it to take me to classic instantly, and any other sites that automatically adjust to mobile sites if it detects a phone.
If you use Dolphin Browser you can set the user agent to desktop and it will load all pages that way.
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How does dolphin compare to the stock browser?
Dolphin HD is slow in my opinion, you could also try opera mini 5.1.
I still prefer the stock browser.
here is a trick to always view your favorite websites in desktop view. I don't know how to make every site open as desktop, just your most frequent ones.
Go to a website.. such as www.google.com
it will auto open mobile view...scroll down in the website and click on desktop. once desktop view opens.. set this page as a bookmark... now everytime you access the pg via bookmark, it will go to desktop view.
another option, if you want to set google.com desktop as your homepage.
again click desktop, when desktop google comes up, copy the link, paste this new link as your homepage. and your phone will automatically go into desktop google everytime you open your browser.
you can bookmark many webpages, so just set up your most favoritely frequented sites to be bookmarked as desktop view. simple!
There is a code you can enter into your browser that gives you more settings. One of those is the ability to make your phone appear as a desktop, not a phone.
However, I tried this and my browser crashed and I had to delete all data and cache to get it to work again. This DID work on the Nexus One when flash came out (allowed us to watch hulu.com)
The string is about:debug, then go to web settings. Last option is ua string. Change to desktop. Again though, I DO NOT recommend doing this.
s15274n said:
There is a code you can enter into your browser that gives you more settings. One of those is the ability to make your phone appear as a desktop, not a phone.
However, I tried this and my browser crashed and I had to delete all data and cache to get it to work again. This DID work on the Nexus One when flash came out (allowed us to watch hulu.com)
The string is about:debug, then go to web settings. Last option is ua string. Change to desktop. Again though, I DO NOT recommend doing this.
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Can't seem to find this option :S
I don't know about everyone esle but i like SKYFIRE browser from the market: allows you to choose between Android, Desktop or Iphone i think as your default loading method. It's very speedy to load in desktop mode. Try that out
stepinmyworld said:
I don't know about everyone esle but i like SKYFIRE browser from the market: allows you to choose between Android, Desktop or Iphone i think as your default loading method. It's very speedy to load in desktop mode. Try that out
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Yep, this works well. A few pages still detect the presence of a mobile browser, but 9 out of 10 pages load the desktop versions.
I always experienced Skyfire on other phones as laggy. Does it run as fast as Android stock browser?
I think many people know this but just in case you don't. Many sites detect when an iPad is browsing the site and redeliver any Flash video content as HTML5. This is both less taxing on your CPU and usually higher quality. On the XOOM it also runs full screen which is nice.
Here's what you do.
Download Dolphin Browser from Market
During the Setup it'll ask you what user agent you want - select iPad!
Now you're set. Any site you visit (try Engadget and some CNN pages) you'll notice that pages load video with HTML5, just tap it and the XOOM will load them full screen and it's buttery smooth and crystal clear.
Anytime you want the iPad browsing experience, just launch Dolphin HD - done
Here it is in full, if someone wants it.
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Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; U; CPU OS 3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Mobile/7B334b Safari/531.21.10
You can do the same with the default browser in the xoom. Just go into debug and instead of choosing desktop choose I pad. Now every site will think your an ipad
Are you sure it's less taxing? Flash 10.2 has hardware accelerated video playback with a new stagevideo object
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/stagevideo.html
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ebpman said:
You can do the same with the default browser in the xoom. Just go into debug and instead of choosing desktop choose I pad. Now every site will think your an ipad
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How do u get into debug?
droidrev71 said:
How do u get into debug?
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in the address bar do
about:debug
when you hit enter it will look like nothing happened. go into the settings menu and you'll find a debug category. pick your useragent there.
when you're done do
about:debug
again to exit debug mode (remove it from the settings menu)
This trick does not stick.
ebpman said:
You can do the same with the default browser in the xoom. Just go into debug and instead of choosing desktop choose I pad. Now every site will think your an ipad
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Ok, I have read literally hundreds of posts concerning desktop vs mobile mode in the browser. I have tried several browsers, and have switched them all into desktop mode via the settings. But, none, including the stock browser and Dolphin seem to work as promised. So, I have several questions:
1. What is it that allows a website to recognize an android phone or tablet and an
ipod touch as a mobile device?
2. Is there any way to permanently change "whatever" so that all websites
recognize my tablet and ipod touch as a desktop?
I'm using opera mobile and all pages works fine on desktop mode
xamilek555 said:
I'm using opera mobile and all pages works fine on desktop mode
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I tried one version of Opera last week and had no luck. Today, I downloaded Opera Mobile as you suggested and it worked just fine. Thanks for the suggestion.
But, the still should be a permanent fix for all Browsers. And, I would still like to know how a website recognizes a mobile device.
I believe they check the OS, not the browser, then redirect accordingly.
Running Honney Vil and stock browser and not seeing that problem, so probably does check the os, don't really know.
This is all based on what your browser "broadcasts" to the web server. I remember way back in the day, some custom ROMs had an option in the settings menu, even on the native browser, to set your browser type to one of many options, including "Android OS", "BlackBerry", "IE", "FireFox" etc... Most web sites are the ones in control of which page to display to you based on what browser it detects hitting the page. Below is an example of one of my web site's access log
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[IP Masked} - - [24/Aug/2011:14:55:57 -0400] "GET /forums/viewtopic.php?p=28441 HTTP/1.1" 200 11347 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Baiduspider/2.0; +http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.html)"
[IP Masked] - - [24/Aug/2011:14:56:09 -0400] "POST /forums/posting.php?mode=reply&f=11&t=2900 HTTP/1.1" 200 3144 "http://[URL Masked]/forums/posting.php?mode=reply&f=11&t=2900" "Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.3.3; en-us; DROID X2 Build/4.5.1A-DTN-117-15) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/533.1"
It's from those logs where it says things like "Android 2.3.3" that tells a server which site to load. Unfortunately, most developers have hard coded anything as "Android" to be shown the mobile browser. Other browsers, like Dolphin and Opera, are either broadcasting a different type of browser, or give the option to.
I have the settings in the stock browser set to viewing mode:desktop (under the advanced tab of the browser settings) and have not come accross any pages that get redirected to mobile. I'm running stock 3.1
Right, you send USER_AGENT info when you connect to a site and based on that - typically what the OS is - the site can redirect.
With 3.0.1 you had to type about:debug in the browser to get the debug menu in settings and there you could change the user agent string. In 3.1 we have that in the advanced menu but I still prefer the old way;-). Don't forget to clear the cache after you do that because the browser might have cached the redirect to the mobile site.
Thanks for all the info. I have the stock browser, Dolphin and Opera Mobile. I have the user agent configured to Desktop in all 3 browsers. All 3 work on most, but not all sites. Only Opera works on all sites that I have tried. It is very disconcerting for sure as I really prefer the stock browser.
jostarr said:
Thanks for all the info. I have the stock browser, Dolphin and Opera Mobile. I have the user agent configured to Desktop in all 3 browsers. All 3 work on most, but not all sites. Only Opera works on all sites that I have tried. It is very disconcerting for sure as I really prefer the stock browser.
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Well, then it goes back to what I posted about the web sites themselves properly delivering the right site based on the user agent (thanks for reminding me of the name user agent gammaRascal!). The web designer has to write code to account for all the various user agents.
There are some other differences too. Try this website in the stock browser,
dolphin and Opera: http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=nyy
With the stock browser, the standings right below the picture on the left, is not complete.
with Dolphin, all looks like as on my PC.
with Opera, the page does not fit the screen.
All browsers for all devices tell the web server what they are and what platform it's running on.
When I am on a website the Galaxy Tab (non-rooted, supplied browser) shows as the browser to be Safari on Linux.
If I change the User Agent in the browser to "desktop" (using the debug mode) the browser reports that it's Sarafi on Mac OS 10.
I used my company's web site to gather these statistics but you can easily see this on Facebook by digging into your settings.
My question is this: Why does Android do this? It creates misleading statistics showing that Safari is getting a much larger share of web page hits than it really is.
My company uses these statistics for marketing and web page development efforts and now has to rethink it knowing that some Android devices don't report themselves as Android browsers.
my guess would be because of webkit. however, there are some websites that identify browsers and devices properly, such as html5test.com
Jay Rock said:
my guess would be because of webkit. however, there are some websites that identify browsers and devices properly, such as html5test.com
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When I go to HTML5Test.com while the UAstring is set to desktop the site says:
"You are using an unknown browser that imitates Safari 5.0 on Mac OS X 10.6.3"
TabGuy said:
When I go to HTML5Test.com while the UAstring is set to desktop the site says:
"You are using an unknown browser that imitates Safari 5.0 on Mac OS X 10.6.3"
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Well isn't that what changing the UAstring is supposed to do? Imitate another browser in order to get a certain format from a page?
Wondering what the best browser is to closely mimic the desktop browsing experience, flash, etc on my N7. I love chrome and all its syncing features and seamless connection with my desktop, but the lack of desktop agent is killer.
thirtynation said:
Wondering what the best browser is to closely mimic the desktop browsing experience, flash, etc on my N7. I love chrome and all its syncing features and seamless connection with my desktop, but the lack of desktop agent is killer.
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For me chrome integrates the experience. For the first time I now use browser sync ! Out of curiosity are there any priority tasks you require flash for or jspust general browsing? Coming from Linux I am glad to see flash not included, after years of 100% CPU video playback and unusable webapps. I look forward to what the latest android / web APIs make possible.
You can push flash onto the device and use it with the aosp browser, Firefox, opera? Etc iirc
thirtynation said:
Wondering what the best browser is to closely mimic the desktop browsing experience, flash, etc on my N7. I love chrome and all its syncing features and seamless connection with my desktop, but the lack of desktop agent is killer.
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Lack of desktop agent!?!?! There is an option in the one and only settings menu to "request desktop site".
I like the Firefox beta.It works well with flash.If you install the "phoney" add on you can make websites think you are on a desktop or other device and get around some of the things they don't have updated apps for.It is the only way I could find to get hbogo and maxgo to work with the tablet.
http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/06/flash-player-and-android-update.html
Beginning Aug 15 adobe is phasing out flash from play store.
Expect your favourite sites to cater to the needs of the masses!