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Can we please sign up for official beta testing froyo, we don't want cash just a free device every 2 years.
Lets make it official, sign on if you would like to be included
Please leave cynicism out of this thread.
Its cheap labour as it is
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tbh i would test if for lot less NOW!
ten chars!!!
Are there beta testers for devices or android systems?
If not I am not sure why pc apps use beta testing and not android
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I'll be more than happy to try out any alpha & beta releases of any Android products
just being able to play with the latest and greatest is more than enough joy for me
Moved to General forum. The development forum is only for development threads. (Threads with actual development happening.)
Questions should always be in the General forums (or Q&A if your device has a Q&A forum.)
I would be very interested in testing for free devices
Add me to the list.
I'd love to do some beta testing!!!
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Are there beta testers for devices or android systems?
If not I am not sure why pc apps use beta testing and not android
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yeah, samsung calls them customers
Would be cool of this came off, count me in.
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안녕하세요 삼성. 저도 Beta 시험하고싶습니다. 많은 도움이될겁니다. Hi Samsung, I'd love to beta test any of your programs for the Galaxy S. I have the Vibrant from T-Mo. Thanks~
hope this works typed in Korean as well haha..
I'd test my brains out if you ask me. Count me in too
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You can definitely count me in
alpha testing Android 3.0 is also ok
I'm sure plenty of people around here would be interested in such a scheme, myself included! As to whether it would come to pass..
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Seriously? Please? I think this thread needs a pretty epic dose of it.
It would be great if there was an employee of Samsung / HTC / other phone manufacturers as a contact point between the dev community and the manufacturers themselves.
Eg: to look through forums such as this, see what everyone's saying, keep us posted on news and dates and seek honest feedback from us.
The only people who look through XDA are those interested in modding and installing custom firmwares anyway, so regular consumers would gain the benefit of us testing the stuff out without them having to be aware of it.
Plus, one of the deciding factors of many enthusiasts when buying a new Android phone is the dev community and support, so you can guarantee they would gain at least a few more sales from those interested.
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It would be great if there was an employee of Samsung / HTC / other phone manufacturers as a contact point between the dev community and the manufacturers themselves.
Eg: to look through forums such as this, see what everyone's saying, keep us posted on news and dates and seek honest feedback from us.
[....].
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That will make them way too vurnerable and the benefits will never justify the costs. The game they play is how to make as much as profit as one can. From that perspective things are good if and only if the sales figures are good. So, for them, sales figures are all the feedback they need
If they did do such a scheme, it would be in Korea.
First i want to start by saying im sorry that you all are not understanding what the 5 bucks is for . its hard to find things on the net and in the forums. When i first started i came here to xda i soft bircked my phone from a rom so i asked for help here and got yelled at, called names and told im posting in the wrong room . I didnt know, but still someone could of helped me instead i was made fun of and laughed at for my spelling here at xda . so i went out and found out alot about phones made a couple videos and poof everyone found me ....i was helping so many people, my phone was none stop ringing but i picked up . i helped them out by telling people where to go, how to get what they want was hard so i made a site it was free all day up intill 5 months ago . see the site was coasting me 250 a month that i did not have but people still needed help they tryed to come here but people where mean cuzz where noobs . so thats why at akaskriller.com it coast 5 bucks . everyone knows these roms are free on the net there not paying for the roms there paying for a just cause for helping people in need no matter what . for the roms i put out i say i hacked theme or themed them out . its fun to theme them out and help people ..
so im sorry if u all got it wrong and i give back to the devs that i take the most calls on lol but for real you all stop being silly and saying bad things about me.
and we pay peoples bills that can not ... ask your selfs y do you all care so much what others do for help?
seriously? why hide the roms behind donations then? why not post it freely and market it as a pay support site? why post paid apps for free behind the donation? why not post it all for no donation at all and post a link for 5.00 a month tech support? i'm certain this thread will be locked in no time and look forward to the humiliation headed your way.
I do not accept your apology. You are a fraud. You stole peoples work to make money
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it doesn't matter your logic for any of that.
1) you cannot advertise anything that has a registration/paywall on xda, it's against the forum rules (it's the same reason we don't see posts by samfirmware stuff anymore, even though we all know about it)
2) you cannot include links to services/devices you sell (it's fine to tell people of a download mode JIG and even to check ebay or other places, but to point directly to yours is also against the rules)
3) if you don't have the money to run the site, don't run it (why host anything at all beyond a few lightweight html files with explanations)
4) make the donation optional. register for the site for free and then people can donate if they want (hey, sounds an awful lot like what xda is)
5) do you have the permission of the ROM developers to repost their work elsewhere? (especially behind a lazy paywall)
if you can't follow xda's rules, then what do you expect to happen?
What you do is wrong!
1. You host warez on your site.
2. You steal all of out Dev's roms
3. Just link you "subscribers" to xda
Why not use something like forumotion.com to so you don't have to pay?
And the no credits?
This... this is going to get nasty unfortunately.
Be respectable people.
Suck my balls.
@aka , not s15 >.>
see this is xda all you all do is talk bad im sorry but there are no paid apps in site and app brain or 4share.com lol theres all your apps for free ... i tell you all and you dont here me
And the lying about creating a Gingerbread ROM with GPS?
I think the point that most are upset with is that you have done this in a sneaky manner and not asked any dev if it was okay to post their work. For us to put sometimes months into building a better rom and then you to take it change a couple icons or colors and then post it as your own work when you probably wouldn't know a XML from a bml and charge people for "support" which they get here for free. I personally have tried to answer every "noob" that has approached me and not once charged.
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You pay for 250 (A dedicated box) for your forum?
Damn. That's silly.
You are in breach of Apache Software License Version 2 & GNU General Public License Version 2.
You are in breach of your AdSense account by hosting copyrighted material, you have been reported - LINK
You have been reported to Gameloft for hosting their pirated/warez apps, they have notified their legal dept.
You have been reported to your web host - LINK - for hosting & distributing pirated/warez apps.
You have been reported to Paypal for profiteering off pirated/warez apps.
Enjoy the next few days.
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You pay for 250 (A dedicated box) for your forum?
Damn. That's silly.
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Quit trying to front dude. And if you're paying 250 a month for your site that's a joke. Learn the rules before you break them. All youre trying to do now is bend them. Quit taking other devastating work!!
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And it appears that most scammers would try to post an apology explaining their situation in order "recreate" their image again.
250? more like 10
Get Godaddy and pay that much.
We don't care you have a crappy website that costs that much.
The not helping? You think its just here? Look at your own forums buddy...
Someone here posted a link to one of your threads where someone asked if OC can be used on all of "your" roms, 1 reply "try it and find out"
Very nice answer?
Everyone here will hate you and probably do, you know why?
YOU STOLE WORK.
and now your trying to make excuses like a 5 year old kid lying about stealing his friends toy car.
Grow some balls kid.
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You are in breach of Apache Software License Version 2 & GNU General Public License Version 2.
You are in breach of your AdSense account by hosting copyrighted material, you have been reported - LINK
You have been reported to Gameloft for hosting their pirated/warez apps, they have notified their legal dept.
You have been reported to your web host - LINK - for hosting & distributing pirated/warez apps.
You have been reported to Paypal for profiteering off pirated/warez apps.
Enjoy the next few days.
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Your ****ed.
Ill give you 5 dollars to shut the hell up.....oh and gps on 2.3
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This... this is going to get nasty unfortunately.
Be respectable people.
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i thought exactly the same thing when i saw this lol. made damn sure i jumped in with justifiable questions and hope for an answer before it got locked. guess i'll pop some popcorn and watch the show.
ps. still hoping for some answers to my questions akaskriller.
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You pay for 250 (A dedicated box) for your forum?
Damn. That's silly.
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He doesn't have a dedicated server, his server IP is 216.17.96.218 and as you can see it goes nowhere. Its a shared IP.
I have posted a new thread at Sony Mobile Support requesting they support 2011 devices with KitKat, as apparently they announced they will update 2012 devices to kitkat.
Or, if Sony will not support the 2011 devices as they are beyond 18 months old, they should release the sources and let the dev community go to town.
Here is the thread at Sony Mobile Support, I would like all users to just take two minutes and voice your feedback in encouraging Sony to either update our PLAY or better yet, release all sources so that devs may do updates such as KitKat 4.4 to our PLAY.
Sony Mobile Support Thread:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...Xperia-devices-Xperia-PLAY/m-p/430889#U430889
Thank you and please show your support through the link above, I have informed Sony of this thread but if you all can please kindly post your comments on the thread above. If Sony doesnt see the comments of encouragement then they wont see it as worth it, in either way.
Edit - I am leaning towards Sony releasing sources as this will cost them nothing or a lot less then paying staff to make the 4.4 software upgrade and beta test it. Sources would be a lot more feasible, plus it would allow everyone to benefit with full access to our PLAY.
EDIT 2 - From Big_Smile, he made a very good suggestion to better our chances:
"Also, it would be a good idea to post your messages on Sundar Pichai's Google plus as he is the head of Google Android.
In order to use Android with Google services, manufactures have to follow certain rules that Google makes.
We should ask Sundar Pichai to compel manufacturers to release source files for older devices.
You can see my post asking him to do this here:
https://plus.google.com/+SundarPichai/posts/74nXKEeeMRx
(I've used my name Madhu Sharma).
If you agree, please +1 my comment but also post your own comment as well.
Unlike contacting Sony, this probably does have a good chance of becoming a reality if lots of people participate. Google do tend to listen and if it happened, they would make more money as more people would have access to their services.
Again, it only takes a few minutes to participate and this really could make a difference for everyone."
Thank you Big_Smile.
I forgot to add a Poll for this thread, any chance to still add it? I dont see it as an option.. after I made the first post.
Edit - Got the POLL Running
One more thing:
If everyone can select to vote to have this thread detailed on XDA Portal to gain attention that would great. See attached photo if you are unsure how to vote this thread on XDA Portal.
I have contributed to the thread. I don't think it will do anything, but I think everyone should try.
It only takes a second (and you can login in with Gmail and Facebook, so you don't even need to set up an account).
You never know, if Sony gets a lot of requests, they will take action.
Also, post your message here as well:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/support/contact-us/contact-form/Other/en_GB/
Again, it probably won't do anything but it is worth a try and will only take a minute. Companies like Sony are always trying to find ways to show that they listen (as it earns them good publicity).
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Also, it would be a good idea to post your messages on Sundar Pichai's Google plus as he is the head of Google Android.
In order to use Android with Google services, manufactures have to follow certain rules that Google makes.
We should ask Sundar Pichai to compel manufacturers to release source files for older devices.
You can see my post asking him to do this here:
https://plus.google.com/116651741222993143554/posts/74nXKEeeMRx
(I've used my name Madhu Sharma).
If you agree, please +1 my comment but also post your own comment as well.
Unlike contacting Sony, this probably does have a good chance of becoming a reality if lots of people participate. Google do tend to listen and if it happened, they would make more money as more people would have access to their services.
Again, it only takes a few minutes to participate and this really could make a difference for everyone.
i doubt they will support it they wont support my xperia t which is 1.5ghz snapdragon s4 and 1gb of ram. this was their last 2012 flagship so they won't update any 2012 devices probably only 2013
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At Big_Smile, that is an excellent idea and would stand a better chance then contacting Sony head on. I will add your suggestion to post 1 soon as I have a chance
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Per Big_Smile's link to Sundar Pichai, I have added the following to his, please see attached.
Link to:
https://plus.google.com/+SundarPichai/posts/74nXKEeeMRx
Edit - Added this thread to my Google+ post reply to Big_Smile.
I think another good idea would to be raise this issue on "This Week in Google" (TWiG).
TWiG is a podcast about Google & Android, that is often viewed by people who work at Google.
I have made a post on the TWiG Google Plus Community:
https://plus.google.com/115434784269286841659/posts/4GQVrDtLhTV
If you agree with what I have written, please +1 it and add your own comments and ideas.
I think if the post got around 50 - 100 +1s, there's a good chance someone from the show might notice it and so might consider discuss it on the next episode.
Again, it's a long shot, but it would only take a few minutes to contribute and it could stand a good chance of making 4.4 available for not just the Xperia Play, but many other older phones. As I've discussed in my Plus post, this could help a lot of people (and not just Play users).
Unlike other companies, Google does listen, so if we raise this issue in lots of places, there's a good chance that they might act on it.
good ! waiting for ur news
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I want ask all people, that want to post SUBJ request without stupid words to update firmwares for phones. Just ask to open ALL sources, so community can do all work.
I'm all for the sources but telling them to update a very outdated phone is a little much.
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JunDavis said:
I'm all for the sources but telling them to update a very outdated phone is a little much.
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Hence thatz why I am hoping for sources.
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Do you think we should start a petition on change.org @OP?
from the God of gaming, the Xperia Play
Why ya keep asking for upgrade? IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Understand this already. Only thing, that *may* hapeen - opening sources of GB drivrs. Thats enough for communities of all old phones, so all people must focus on it, not on asking for upgrade, that, as said, WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
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Why ya keep asking for upgrade? IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Understand this already. Only thing, that *may* hapeen - opening sources of GB drivrs. Thats enough for communities of all old phones, so all people must focus on it, not on asking for upgrade, that, as said, WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
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Y u gotta be so negative? You never know
from the God of gaming, the Xperia Play
This is sony we are talking about who are the second worst manufacturer to give updates (lg is worst) they probably won't update their 2012 devices so what makes you think they will update the play.
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There's nothing wrong with trying. YOU'LL NEVER KNOW THE ANSWER UNLESS YOU TRY. So all of you negas, go somewhere else. You're of no use here.
Just like sony wouldn't give ics to the play yet everyone asked for it
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There's nothing wrong with trying. YOU'LL NEVER KNOW THE ANSWER UNLESS YOU TRY. So all of you negas, go somewhere else. You're of no use here.
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We are not negative, we are only realistic, it is absurd to think that a company will release an update (LOL) or the source code (double LOL) for a device of 2 years ago, it is against their interest.
BTW don't worry, probably I will go away, if I earn sufficient money to change both my laptop and the phone I will go away from the xplay this Christmas, if not sorry but this nega will remain for another year
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Even if they are unlikely to listen, it only takes 2 minutes max to ask them, so it's worth a try. Anyone can spare 2 minutes.
Also, I think the best strategy is to ask Google to force manufacturers to release source code, as they have a financial incentive to do so (as it will further their interests of making Android less fragmented, easier to develop for and making the latest Google Play apps available to all).
Hey guys,
I just received my invite to Google glass developers. I would love to purchase a set for development, however do not have the funds to do so.
I figured that it would be worth asking if there are enough people on XDA needing developers to be willing to donate to the purchase of my pair? These would be strictly used for development and testing of other dev's work, and would probably be donated at the end.
If this is not possible, then I would probably be willing to sell the code do an xda Dev.
Please let me know
-Tom
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Hey guys,
I just received my invite to Google glass developers. I would love to purchase a set for development, however do not have the funds to do so.
I figured that it would be worth asking if there are enough people on XDA needing developers to be willing to donate to the purchase of my pair? These would be strictly used for development and testing of other dev's work, and would probably be donated at the end.
If this is not possible, then I would probably be willing to sell the code do an xda Dev.
Please let me know
-Tom
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Sell the code to a dev that you got for free? Ya, that helps dev for Google Glass. You also only have 7 days to purchase.
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They wouldn't end up being donated in the end, because once you use them, you can't go back to not using them.
srsly
Tomyk89 said:
Hey guys,
I just received my invite to Google glass developers. I would love to purchase a set for development, however do not have the funds to do so.
I figured that it would be worth asking if there are enough people on XDA needing developers to be willing to donate to the purchase of my pair? These would be strictly used for development and testing of other dev's work, and would probably be donated at the end.
If this is not possible, then I would probably be willing to sell the code do an xda Dev.
Please let me know
-Tom
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I'm looking forward to beta testing the app you are developing.
Hello.... I'm starting this thread to set up a bounty for a working device tree.. For the sprint note 4..I am lacking in time to create one myself but have all the experience and ability to use it... So figured I'd offer a bounty to anyone willing to create us a working device tree to use to build Roms from source.... What I'm wanting is a tree that I can build cm and aosp based Roms from.... I'm not asking for Roms I'm asking for a tree that works that I can use to build the Roms myself as well as others.....
If interested in chipping in please list the amount and I'll add your name to the list..... Please Only people who are actually going to donate when/if the time comes ..
Thanks
Bounty:
spleef : $75
Herk718 : $20
Total: $95
@Herk718 $20
I understand the intention here, but I've always found that bounties immediately move work into closed repos, discourages collaboration, and raises questions about who gets the $ if for example, someone gets it 99% there but someone else jumps in for the last step. Will the bounty be split among all collaborators? Will you award the authors of any device repo you fork from? (It's turtles all the way down)
If you want development in the open and people helping each other to get your goal, consider not having a bounty as it's almost never the primary motivator for this kind of work... And often works against what you want. I can tell you personally... My experience with the nook tablet and bounties from a company that wanted to sell the port was pathetic. People were constantly hitting me up on irc and in PM for help, and stealing each others work, and making tiny changes to claim the bounty. Go back and read the forums for acclaim...
Or, look up what happened with the HP Touchpad, which is even more egregious... That fiasco made it to the blogosphere... But the code was flat out stolen and the irc logs pretty jaw dropping.
This is a MUCH smaller project, but still...
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I understand the intention here, but I've always found that bounties immediately move work into closed repos, discourages collaboration, and raises questions about who gets the $ if for example, someone gets it 99% there but someone else jumps in for the last step. Will the bounty be split among all collaborators? Will you award the authors of any device repo you fork from? (It's turtles all the way down)
If you want development in the open and people helping each other to get your goal, consider not having a bounty as it's almost never the primary motivator for this kind of work... And often works against what you want. I can tell you personally... My experience with the nook tablet and bounties from a company that wanted to sell the port was pathetic. People were constantly hitting me up on irc and in PM for help, and stealing each others work, and making tiny changes to claim the bounty. Go back and read the forums for acclaim...
Or, look up what happened with the HP Touchpad, which is even more egregious... That fiasco made it to the blogosphere... But the code was flat out stolen and the irc logs pretty jaw dropping.
This is a MUCH smaller project, but still...
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@fattire
I do understand where you are coming from...these bounties most always end badly where someone does exactly as you described but let me try to ease some of your doubts....
What I'm looking for is for a person or team to step forward... Then after a discussion with them I'll add their name to the op as being the person doing the task.... Now no matter who else jumps in or steals code the money will only go to the person or team that I've talked with and is listed in the op..... So far as money split.... I would... during our discussion prior to having someone accept the task... And listing them as accepting the project talk this over and have it all mapped out as who gets what. What I'm expecting... What they're expecting.. The whole nines... Now these type of situations have a tendency of folks saying I'll donate then don't... If that were to be the case I'll donate the full amount myself... To address the closed repo.... I have a github account and have had one for years as well as being an XDA member for ages.... With a very good reputation.... My account on github is open and always will be... The idea here is to have a source for the public not just me...I have no intention on making anything private or closed source...... My only intentions are too get a device tree that we can use to build cm and aosp based roms from source... The idea of the bounty is solely to draw attention and offer a incentive to someone who is interested, willing, and able to provide us with the tree... I hope I've cleared up at least a little of your worries/doubts....And to be perfectly honest ...I hope that you and slayher accept the task... If you need to further discuss anything please feel free to contact me...I have several ways of doing so listed in my profile but I'll go ahead and list my hangouts info... [email protected]
Enjoy. https://github.com/slayher/android_device_samsung_trltespr
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Enjoy. https://github.com/slayher/android_device_samsung_trltespr
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Whoa... He's a wizard.
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Slayer gets my donation he and always will be the captain
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@slayher
Nicely done...I understand its a wip but using this I will be able to build? And will you continue to fix it up as things progress or is this a here it is I'm done sort of thing?
I dont have one, so will be happy to take input. It *should* build though. Just need to setup trltespr props
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I dont have one, so will be happy to take input. It *should* build though. Just need to setup trltespr props
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Willing to give u my wifes with a bad esn cause she thought she lost it
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I am fine with that, but its hard to test mms/sms calls etc with a bad esn.
I can be the guinea pig. Yaaay.
Slather I have N910R4 USC. I can build test for our variant. Thanks for helping us out.
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Slather I have N910R4 USC. I can build test for our variant. Thanks for helping us out.
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Heh I came to post that Slayher started a repo but there ya go.. guess he posted it already No worries on the bounty thing-- I've just seen it go bad before... it was a cluster****. That was a 3-month project tho.. this shouldn't be anything like that.
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Heh I came to post that Slayher started a repo but there ya go.. guess he posted it already No worries on the bounty thing-- I've just seen it go bad before... it was a cluster****. That was a 3-month project tho.. this shouldn't be anything like that.
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Well I'll still donate my promised portion will do it today.... Thanks a bunch i have the weekend off so I'll be attempting to build once i get off work today
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I dont have one, so will be happy to take input. It *should* build though. Just need to setup trltespr props
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Good deal can't thank you enough.... Am going to try using it after work toda... Mind if I get your hangouts info makes things much easier to communicate if something goes funky
I'm going to close this thread today since the tree is in place we no longer need it guys can post in the cm12 thread here in the general section until I get the build uploaded then will create a thread in development section.... Thanks again @slayher @fattire y'all are outstanding.... Very glad to have people like you in the xda