Hi ...
one question:
Is there an advantage to use a swap partition?
And there are also disadvantages?
For example, read/write-speed or lifetime of the SD-Card?
cu TM
It´s only a good thing if you have a high class sd card
Personally I don´t use Swap since my phone is fast enough and i don´t see that big advantages of this "extension".
Thanks for the information. So I thought it ...
cu TM
If you use a swap file from inside your /data it increases performance a small bit. If your using any of the Ubuntu on hd2 stuff, you definatly want a swap file, as the GUI for Ubuntu likes to hog the small amount of ram.
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cu TM
Related
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683123
How to use Swap space on SD to increase ram on our devices so we can run more demanding apps.
swap is possible only with custom kernel, so it will not work for us
I believe that doixanh proved more than enough that custom kernel is not needed for any kernel modifications Still, we would need a module.
but i don't think that he should make swap module it will be better if he will finish this
Well, it's up to him what he wishes to develop
IMO swap is useless for Android. It has its own memory management already.
And it would certainly take a high class sd card, AND it would be harmful for it So next time we should just buy a phone with bigger RAM memory
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IMO swap is useless for Android. It has its own memory management already.
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So, how can we increase the memory through SD, my finding isn't good ? If not, how to do it the right way?XD
Graveir said:
And it would certainly take a high class sd card, AND it would be harmful for it So next time we should just buy a phone with bigger RAM memory
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I don't really care about my SD card's health XD i just want more ram XD
But what do you need slow RAM for? RAM is very dynamic and since we already use app2sd it could even slow your device down instead of enhancing performance...
EDIT: Well, maybe it would be faster if you have a class 10 card...
Yeah SD is slow and putting swap there will be incredibly slow.
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doixanh said:
Yeah SD is slow and putting swap there will be incredibly slow.
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Yes, but i want this because you know that there are some applications that won't run on X8 because of it's low ram...so, i dont care about about speed, also, i don't use app2sd, so no slowdown, I am using Class 4 card
Yeah I know. Just my opinion
doixanh said:
Yeah I know. Just my opinion
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So, is there a way of using ram just for the ram consuming apps, to make X8 able to at least run them? (You already released an SD card speed fix, so it should go a bit faster...Can you help me, cuz i really like running RAM hungry apps and i don't have enough ram :|
No I don't know about that. Haven't tried swap thingies yet
for example, there are games, like dungeon defenders that requires 256 MB of RAM at the runtime (it's the requirement of unreal enginge 3 i belive). some guys have managed to run the game on LG swift, which is pretty much the same device as x8 when it comes to hardware. maybe it's not running too fast (although i saw some video where it was even faster than on some more powerful devices), and it's not quite playable, but some people might still enjoy it. and without SWAP, it's impossible; and it's just a one example.
wujekandrzej said:
for example, there are games, like dungeon defenders that requires 256 MB of RAM at the runtime (it's the requirement of unreal enginge 3 i belive). some guys have managed to run the game on LG swift, which is pretty much the same device as x8 when it comes to hardware. maybe it's not running too fast (although i saw some video where it was even faster than on some more powerful devices), and it's not quite playable, but some people might still enjoy it. and without SWAP, it's impossible; and it's just a one example.
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Thanks for supporting my ideea XD We really need Swap for Ram Hungry apps
Yes. great. ideA. but... is posible?
The app that does this on market requires custom kernel so might not be possible atm
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hello,
im using Motorola Defy MB525 with cm9 4.0.3
my q is, can I somehow increase the RAM with the sdcard memory (like create something like virtual RAM or something like that) to improve my phone performance ?
it preety slow because it still Beta and i want it to be fast as cm7 so i thoght it may help.
anybody tried it before ?
You can do it by swap, but you need really good sd-card (class 8 or 10), because it can slow down your phone.
Don't you have enough ram?
Hellmanor said:
You can do it by swap, but you need really good sd-card (class 8 or 10), because it can slow down your phone.
Don't you have enough ram?
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unfortunatly, i think that its the only way to speed up my phone, becuase i wont take the risk with oc above 1000Mhz
its this or wait till cm9 will be official for defy and hope it will be faster, one of the two.
+1 to the idea was thinking about it the other day
Would a 32gb class 10 work and partition a gb or two? It is complete overkill to the size of ram but I think a gb would be quicker than our 500mb as system steals about 250-300 minimum
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If someone can do this with a 32 GB class 10, can you please share with us ? I am very interested. Thanks!
We cant do swap... our kernels dont suport it...
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now cm7 can swap
More and more ROMs support swap, but unless you are willing to sacrifice a good Class 10 card for it, most people don't want to use it. Because SD and NAND are not meant to be written and read from as much as RAM, it can break down.
Use CM10 ROMs or GB roms, they are much superior to ICS in memory management imho.
I have teh same problen, not enough RAM in CM7 Defy.
It can slow the phone.
can i use some memory swap with my 32gb c10 card?
Or i use an memory killer, like CleanMaster?
wmiki75 said:
I have teh same problen, not enough RAM in CM7 Defy.
It can slow the phone.
can i use some memory swap with my 32gb c10 card?
Or i use an memory killer, like CleanMaster?
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I recomended use memory killer, because you can screw up 32gb 10 card (c10 cards are expensive).
How good or bad is it to Use a swap partition, pros & con's ?
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How good or bad is it to Use a swap partition, pros & con's ?
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I guess its okay to use swap. Swap increases your ram and so you can preform better multitasks.
I think the con is that the phone gets slow if your SD card is not good. But i am really not sure on this one
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How good or bad is it to Use a swap partition, pros & con's ?
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SWAP expands your RAM, so when you have it, you can open more apps than than you could without it.
If You're not trying to run many RAM-eating apps at the same time, you're only wasting your SD space.
I close every app i don't need, so SWAP i useless for me. Also i'm using Dorimanx ROM, which when SWAP is enabled has no built in task manager. If it wasnt like that, i would probably have it, just in case.
About slowing phone down: SWAP will never work as fast as RAM, since it has slower access time than native RAM. It's just to keep everything going even if you ran out of RAM, maybe a little slower, but still.
Hey guys
Am using cm9 with sdmerge 4 so i have enough internal memory.My problem is that i have little ram left this leads to my phone being really slow and i hate this.I was wondering how i can increase the Ram.
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Swapper2 / swap via terminal emulator
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if you have big games on internal, you can use directory bind, you iwll have the apk on internal, and the rest of game on external sd
How do i really use directory Bind and where can i find one
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How do i really use directory Bind and where can i find one
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here you go ..
for instruction regarding directory bind search on youtube.!
The "swapping" on smartphone is a very very bad idea !
the "hard" reading and writing non stop may cause damages in the short or medium term ! it's not good ...
Loulou-13 said:
The "swapping" on smartphone is a very very bad idea !
the "hard" reading and writing non stop may cause damages in the short or medium term ! it's not good ...
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You never used Linux distro before, right ?
Swapping isn't a non-stop r/w actions, the kernel will swap things when needed. You can set swappines value, bigger the swappines, the more kernel will swap things out from memory.
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You never used Linux distro before, right ?
Swapping isn't a non-stop r/w actions, the kernel will swap things when needed. You can set swappines value, bigger the swappines, the more kernel will swap things out from memory.
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Its a bad idea for a newbe to enable full swap in the device, there are two bricked phones while experimenting with swap here on the forums
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the best is to use KSM(Kernel Samepage Merging) and Zram,but the kernel must support it.all is better than swap i think.
demajor said:
Hey guys
Am using cm9 with sdmerge 4 so i have enough internal memory.My problem is that i have little ram left this leads to my phone being really slow and i hate this.I was wondering how i can increase the Ram.
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Try using swap scripts like Turbo boost
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RHeoSoft RAM Expander works for me. Also there are many tutorials over the internet which can help any noob like me
Greetings fellow persons
I have a LG D722 and I wish to breathe some new life into this phone
I have heard that you can expand ram with the use of an sd card
Here are my questions
Does my phone support such a function?
IF root is needed, will it still work after i disable root?
Do i just get a 10 speed XXGB sd card?
What would be the best sd card to choose in terms of speed (that the phone supports)
What (free) app should i use?
If you need any additional info, let me know
Thanks
Quantics said:
Greetings fellow persons
I have a LG D722 and I wish to breathe some new life into this phone
I have heard that you can expand ram with the use of an sd card
Here are my questions
Does my phone support such a function?
IF root is needed, will it still work after i disable root?
Do i just get a 10 speed XXGB sd card?
What would be the best sd card to choose in terms of speed (that the phone supports)
What (free) app should i use?
If you need any additional info, let me know
Thanks
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This is not possible. Even if it was possible, it would be way too slow because ram is way faster than an sd-card.
EDIT: You can use a SWAP file, but you can't use it as "Real" ram
RapHaeL_4_4_4_ said:
This is not possible. Even if it was possible, it would be way too slow because ram is way faster than an sd-card.
EDIT: You can use a SWAP file, but you can't use it as "Real" ram
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Thanks for the swift reply Raphael
A pity that it is not possible, the phone has a rather low amount of ram for today's standards
I see that you have also owned a G3 albeit another version.
Did you make any changes to improve the phone performance?
Quantics said:
Thanks for the swift reply Raphael
A pity that it is not possible, the phone has a rather low amount of ram for today's standards
I see that you have also owned a G3 albeit another version.
Did you make any changes to improve the phone performance?
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I had the "real" g3 with the snapdragon 801 and 3gb of ram so I didn't had to do anything because it was a great phone for the price.
But, before that I had a really bad phone with only 512 mb of ram and I tried everything to make it go faster (overclock (witch make the phone really hot), "ram booster" kind of app (they don't make any noticeable difference), etc...) but I realised that we just can't do that. So, unfortunately, we have to live with it until we change phone.
That being said, you can always disable animation to help the device go faster but that's pretty much it.
Yep done that it helped a bit
I am using "root booster" it makes my device react quicker then normal, i noticed the difference right of the bat
And got rid of some of the bloatware, am currently researching which other ones i can safely remove