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Anyone else notice the the camera in 2.1 takes REALLY crappy pics compared to the camera in 1.5. I know its just software differences but I noticed a big quality decrease when i went from 1.5 to 2.1.
FoxRacR17 said:
Anyone else notice the the camera in 2.1 takes REALLY crappy pics compared to the camera in 1.5. I know its just software differences but I noticed a big quality decrease when i went from 1.5 to 2.1.
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I've seen a huge drop in video.
Mine is the same
Hmm... I don't take very many pictures, but I haven't notices this. Have you checked the settings? Make sure the Resolution is on 5M. Make sure that widescreen is checked (I have noticed better quality when in widescreen) and I would turn auto-focus off. Then come back and tell us how it looks.
funny, I've noticed the opposite. mine takes better pictures now.
have noticed that the quality has dropped in 2.1 from 1.5 I have checked the settings and made identical to what they were in 1.5
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Guys, don't use the native camera app. Use an app called "FxCamera" on the market. The quality of the pictures it takes is RIDICULOUSLY better than the native app. Trust me.
I saw this video a few days after N4 was launched and thought this might be the final interface. However, it wasn't.
Just check the video guys, this interface looks much smoother and above all everythng is diffferent in it. Starting from capturing the photos, stitching them and even the viewing styles afterwards. How come? I don't get it.
Can we get this interface in future upgrade or something? Or looks like it was a prototype of PhotoSphere and they changed the interface in the end
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUZzeAqImsM
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Demonstration of the Scalado panorama soon to be implemented in a smartphone near you.
Update Oct 29th 2012: Seems like the new LG Nexus 4 smartphone announced today will be the first to have this camera feature installed
filthykid said:
I saw this video a few days after N4 was launched and thought this might be the final interface. However, it wasn't.
Just check the video guys, this interface looks much smoother and above all everythng is diffferent in it. Starting from capturing the photos, stitching them and even the viewing styles afterwards. How come? I don't get it.
Can we get this interface in future upgrade or something? Or looks like it was a prototype of PhotoSphere and they changed the interface in the end
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUZzeAqImsM
Video's Description:
Demonstration of the Scalado panorama soon to be implemented in a smartphone near you.
Update Oct 29th 2012: Seems like the new LG Nexus 4 smartphone announced today will be the first to have this camera feature installed
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This was some software which was developed by Scalado and was sold to OEMs to use. Google skinned it to make it more user friendly (at least in their and my eyes). I don't know about whether or not there's a way to get it as a standalone app in the form that they show in the video, but I personally prefer the newer way with the dots telling you where to focus and the slightly nicer background.
So, PhotoSphere isn't Google's brain child?
The way this one stitches photos is better IMO.
filthykid said:
So, PhotoSphere isn't Google's brain child?
The way this one stitches photos is better IMO.
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Yes but the Google's interface seems to be more user friendly. In this one, it doesn't indicate a lot of stuff
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Hello xda members, I bought this phone because i thought it would be an awesome phone. Which it kind of is but still not. And i am writing this so people who wants to buy this phone gets a some information about the phone. And yes i know there are a thread like this, but one is only positive and the other is only negative etc.
In general this phone is a beast, it look good really premium feeling. But when using it for a couple of days i fins so much in this phone that is really bad that i seriously consider changing phone.
I am not make this phone look bad or so, it is still a awesome phone but these things is not acceptable imo. And all of these things that i will write are IMO
- ´The camera is really good, it takes sharp pictures and is quite good when it is dark (but should be better), but god damn the camera app is terrible. There are no options at all! You can't do a sh*t, and when taking pictures of "landscape" the picture turns out great, but when you zoom in every single detail is blury as hell (look attachment). A phone with 20MP should have much better camera app and more features.
- The battery life isn't good, I used only GSM and no wifi, lowest brightness and the only thing i did was texting and looking at the clock. But the phone was still consuming quite a lot battery..
- The wifi performance is bad, i have a samsung galaxy s2 too and i put the phones on the table and my samsung has stronger signal (which leads to "faster" internet).
- The viewing angels are bad but it's okej i can live with that not such a big problem.
- The bezel is way to big, the phone could be smaller and still keep the display size, because the phone feels a little bit to big and doesn't feel so good in the hand.
- And last but not least there are a few things they should fix in their "ROM", that are bugging me.
But overall it really is a great phone, but these things makes me consider changing phone.
Hope those of you who want to buy this phone thinks this is useful.
The first picture is in auto mode, and the other one is in manual mode.
have to agree with you on the camera. when you take a photo it looks really nice, but when you zoom in it's a like a painting lol. no sharpness whatsoever. hopefully it'll get improve with further update. i thought the battery would be much better, but i find it the same as my old htc one and that's 2300mah.
natkaen said:
have to agree with you on the camera. when you take a photo it looks really nice, but when you zoom in it's a like a painting lol. no sharpness whatsoever. hopefully it'll get improve with further update. i thought the battery would be much better, but i find it the same as my old htc one and that's 2300mah.
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Not my experience at all. These aren't even the sharpest shots I've taken - you should see the ones I snapped of the outside of the Natural History Museum. Hell, you should see the ones I took of the ceiling inside the natural history museum.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157635983420745/
It's a cameraphone,... I'm just not sure what people were expecting. Of course it's not a DSLR but it's pulling in far more detail in every 8mp image than any 13mp phone picture I've taken.
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Not my experience at all. These aren't even the sharpest shots I've taken - you should see the ones I snapped of the outside of the Natural History Museum. Hell, you should see the ones I took of the ceiling inside the natural history museum.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157635983420745/
It's a cameraphone,... I'm just not sure what people were expecting. Of course it's not a DSLR but it's pulling in far more detail in every 8mp image than any 13mp phone picture I've taken.
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I didn't say that the pictures ain't sharp, they are sharp and really look good. But when you take a picture like the ones in the attachment it is very blury when you zoom in. But overall the sharpness is really good, but the camera app sucks big time, you can't change any settings, the old phones with 2MP had more options..
Btw nice pictures you captured with the z1
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Not my experience at all. These aren't even the sharpest shots I've taken - you should see the ones I snapped of the outside of the Natural History Museum. Hell, you should see the ones I took of the ceiling inside the natural history museum.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157635983420745/
It's a cameraphone,... I'm just not sure what people were expecting. Of course it's not a DSLR but it's pulling in far more detail in every 8mp image than any 13mp phone picture I've taken.
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Did you take this pic with Z1? Can you upload the full size of it?
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Did you take this pic with Z1? Can you upload the full size of it?
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I did - self selected Night Portrait mode at 8mp 4:3. The other version of this shot was actually captured using superior auto (I know!). SA decided to turn on "Spotlight Mode" as the interior of the truck was bright and the exterior was in full darkness. It became a very interesting shot!
The full samples are in the link (above). Click on the image in the gallery. This takes you into Lightbox mode. Then right click the image and select "original". This is the full resolution image. Right click again, select "Save As" and resize and inspect to your heart's content.
All of the images in the gallery above are as they were out of the phone. No post processing, no photoshopping. Many of them were taken in Manual with me selecting scene modes but if you see a 16:9 shot it was taken with Superior Auto.
Well i must say i had HTC One which was tricked out, with a modified stock rom and a custom kernel with all the bells and whistles, I use my z1 with wifi connected when im at home and 3g when im out and about, its my main media player, so i use it for mp3's and what not aswell as whatsapp and a few other apps, i got to say the battery life is about the same as my old htc one, bearing in kind, the z1 has a bigger screen and a faster processer. Ok i agree with the bezel it could be better, its still a well built phone and in terms of looks i think the htc one is the only phone which will top it for now.
I dont know whats wrong with your z1 but my pics come out great but then again i dont use superior auto mode, i have no issues with wifi, i get very good speed even when i only have 2 bars. it is known that some phones do not give an accurate read out(GIYF). How long has this phone been out? and how many updates have been made? its a brand new phone only released a few weeks back, fixes will come out, have some patience.
Timaustin2000 said:
I did - self selected Night Portrait mode at 8mp 4:3. The other version of this shot was actually captured using superior auto (I know!). SA decided to turn on "Spotlight Mode" as the interior of the truck was bright and the exterior was in full darkness. It became a very interesting shot!
The full samples are in the link (above). Click on the image in the gallery. This takes you into Lightbox mode. Then right click the image and select "original". This is the full resolution image. Right click again, select "Save As" and resize and inspect to your heart's content.
All of the images in the gallery above are as they were out of the phone. No post processing, no photoshopping. Many of them were taken in Manual with me selecting scene modes but if you see a 16:9 shot it was taken with Superior Auto.
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I start to believe that there is different hardware in each batches of this phone,like sony did with the screen.
No way i can get this results with my phone.
Anyway i am going to the shop for a replacement maybe i will get lucky with one that have good hardware.
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Well i must say i had HTC One which was tricked out, with a modified stock rom and a custom kernel with all the bells and whistles, I use my z1 with wifi connected when im at home and 3g when im out and about, its my main media player, so i use it for mp3's and what not aswell as whatsapp and a few other apps, i got to say the battery life is about the same as my old htc one, bearing in kind, the z1 has a bigger screen and a faster processer. Ok i agree with the bezel it could be better, its still a well built phone and in terms of looks i think the htc one is the only phone which will top it for now.
I dont know whats wrong with your z1 but my pics come out great but then again i dont use superior auto mode, i have no issues with wifi, i get very good speed even when i only have 2 bars. it is known that some phones do not give an accurate read out(GIYF). How long has this phone been out? and how many updates have been made? its a brand new phone only released a few weeks back, fixes will come out, have some patience.
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There is nothing wrong like that the picture a really good it's just that the pictures taken at landscape shown in attachment. everything becomes blury when zoomed in. And that the camera app kinda suck if you compare to other phones even though this phone has a great camera and that the camera is something sony focused on.
Anyone experienced boot up failure and not being able to force reboot using power button and volume up button even after several times? coz i had this and didn't know what to do until it booted up after many trials!!
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Mmm, have you still the film on the back of your phone? The len looks awful, I did a lot of shots never got one so bad. Are we sure is a Z1? Finally on which firmware version are you?
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Anyone experienced boot up failure and not being able to force reboot using power button and volume up button even after several times? coz i had this and didn't know what to do until it booted up after many trials!!
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Check the last page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474654
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gm007 said:
Check the last page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474654
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So in order to stop this long pause do we have to tick the optimize backlight thing?
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sevoflurane said:
So in order to stop this long pause do we have to tick the optimize backlight thing?
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It seems so
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Actually it does, fixed right away after first reboot, what about the email not showing inbox mail.
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Actually it does, fixed right away after first reboot, what about the email not showing inbox mail.
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Stock email? I never use it.
Maybe some settings.
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Timaustin2000 said:
Not my experience at all. These aren't even the sharpest shots I've taken - you should see the ones I snapped of the outside of the Natural History Museum. Hell, you should see the ones I took of the ceiling inside the natural history museum.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157635983420745/
It's a cameraphone,... I'm just not sure what people were expecting. Of course it's not a DSLR but it's pulling in far more detail in every 8mp image than any 13mp phone picture I've taken.
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My friend i own Xperia T and Xperia Z1 and so far the Xperia T is THE BEST CAMERA PHONE EVER.
The quality when you zoom in to the pictures with Xperia T is better than my digital cameras.
The noise at Xperia Z1 pictures is worst than my Xperia arcS.
The same think happened with Xperia Z also.
After the update to 4.2 the camera quality went to [email protected]
I hope that is a software problem that can be fixed.
Last but not least.
Xperia T at superior auto captures at 12Mp and the Z1 flagship at 8Mp.
sevoflurane said:
Anyone experienced boot up failure and not being able to force reboot using power button and volume up button even after several times? coz i had this and didn't know what to do until it booted up after many trials!!
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Yes I had this problem and it was taking so long to boot I thought the phone was dead.
Finally after waiting as long as 10 minutes for it to boot it started up. It would get very hot during this and use as much as 5% of battery. I found it would do the same thing even when booted in safe mode or after I had removed all of my apps.
From what I can see it is some sort of software problem that happens after the installed apps are updated when you initially configure the phone. I can't tell which app is the problem. Another weird thing is that it was carrying over settings from my last phone (lock screen text etc) that are not compatible and this may have been a problem as well.
I did a factory reset and setup again and it did the same thing after a day of use. So I did a factory reset and then did not upgrade the apps or do a sync right away to my Google account and so far so good and I powered off and back on this morning with no issues. So I am not going to update the core apps for now and maybe I have it fixed.
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I didn't say that the pictures ain't sharp, they are sharp and really look good. But when you take a picture like the ones in the attachment it is very blury when you zoom in. But overall the sharpness is really good, but the camera app sucks big time, you can't change any settings, the old phones with 2MP had more options..
Btw nice pictures you captured with the z1
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You have tried putting it in manual mode instead of superior auto right ?
manual mode you get more options than i've seen in any other phone camera
(exposure, white balance, iso, metering mode, focus mode, resolution, hdr, steadyshot to name but a few)
keithwalton said:
You have tried putting it in manual mode instead of superior auto right ?
manual mode you get more options than i've seen in any other phone camera
(exposure, white balance, iso, metering mode, focus mode, resolution, hdr, steadyshot to name but a few)
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yea i know, but i meant when you have 20MP there are no settings you can change only when 8MP, but the biggest lack (imo) is that they don't have features like for example drama, slow motion etc that galaxy s4 has, htc one also has the slow motion thing.
I honestly can't figure out which is better for the life of me.
Stock camera is awesome. But if only I am taking photos with shutter button. On screen button makes the camera focus again after initially locking focus with touch, although it remembers where to focus.
This may cause some lost moments due to delay in shutter speed.
Now, Google Camera, on the other hand, takes photos instantaneously. Much faster than stock camera from my observation. Lock focus with touch, then either on-screen or shutter button takes photos instantly. This makes me a very happy photographer.
But this might mean that I am losing out on Sony-powered enhancements they made for the stock camera, so I am doing various of tests to see which camera is superior.
As for now, both camera takes exceptional photos, but I can noticing differences in color, where Stock makes colors colder where Google makes it bit warmer.
Which camera do you guys prefer?
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I honestly can't figure out which is better for the life of me.
Stock camera is awesome. But if only I am taking photos with shutter button. On screen button makes the camera focus again after initially locking focus with touch, although it remembers where to focus.
This may cause some lost moments due to delay in shutter speed.
Now, Google Camera, on the other hand, takes photos instantaneously. Much faster than stock camera from my observation. Lock focus with touch, then either on-screen or shutter button takes photos instantly. This makes me a very happy photographer.
But this might mean that I am losing out on Sony-powered enhancements they made for the stock camera, so I am doing various of tests to see which camera is superior.
As for now, both camera takes exceptional photos, but I can noticing differences in color, where Stock makes colors colder where Google makes it bit warmer.
Which camera do you guys prefer?
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can you post some samples from both apps
For me stock all the way. I had a phone with very Shutter speed without focus before. Problem was half of my pictures came out blurry. I'd rather wait a milisec for the focus and have a sharp picture than hammering that button and hope for the best plus for me it's always really hard to keep the cam steady when pressing the touch button. As I said half my pictures came out blurry and out of focus with my sgs3. With the z3 every picture is perfect so far. Never had so much fun with a smartphone camera. And that because of the ergonomics and not because of megapixlz.
But why not have both apps side by side and use the one better suited for the situation?
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For me stock all the way. I had a phone with very Shutter speed without focus before. Problem was half of my pictures came out blurry. I'd rather wait a milisec for the focus and have a sharp picture than hammering that button and hope for the best plus for me it's always really hard to keep the cam steady when pressing the touch button. As I said half my pictures came out blurry and out of focus with my sgs3. With the z3 every picture is perfect so far. Never had so much fun with a smartphone camera. And that because of the ergonomics and not because of megapixlz.
But why not have both apps side by side and use the one better suited for the situation?
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Galaxy phones are the same i guess. I have an s5, previously moto x and iphone 5 user. Never had blur in my photos, but with galaxy s5 out of 10 i take 7 will be blurry but camera quality is really good if its not blurry on the s5 especially day light
Speaking of cameras, can you turn off the shutter sound in either of these camera apps?
I could turn it off on my old xperia acro s, but apparently Sony has decided this feature was too powerful for the z3 compact.
Sony stock cam offers "no sound" option in settings
Bäcker said:
Sony stock cam offers no sound option in settings
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The Sony camera on my Z3C has an option to disable sound.
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The Sony camera on my Z3C has an option to disable sound.
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yes, actually I was trying to say the same, just should have added the quotation marks or a dash right away
What settings are you guys using for the stock sony cam? I cant seem to get photos that are as sharp as I'd like. They look great on the z3c display, then i look at them on my laptop and am disappointed. Tried SA, manual, 8mp, 15mp, and all sorts of other settings.
Bäcker said:
yes, actually I was trying to say the same, just should have added the quotation marks or a dash right away
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Haha ok. Sometimes it's hard to figure tone on the internet. :silly:
Last time I tried the Google Camera it didn't like the 2 stage shutter. I think Sony did a decent number on the Camera app, so will be using it for the time being.
I am also using the default camera app. Its awesome!
I think the google camera needs a overhaul. Its good for just point and shoot but it lacks features. Lets hope Android L apis can help with this.
I figure I'll keep the stock camera as well as Google camera installed for different purposes. Stock camera for everything else, and Google camera for panoramas and photo spheres. Have not compared the difference in panorama shots between stock and google camera yet though.
I found google camera to be worse in low light situations. However the app Camera jb+, gave me better results allround compared to the stock camera.
Sorry to dig up that rather old thread...but something is bugging me! I can't seem to find the setting to turn out ff the sound
Can someone help me?
Sorry, the menu is in German but you guys will probably understand what it means...there is no SOUND ...
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oTToToTenTanz said:
Sorry to dig up that rather old thread...but something is bugging me! I can't seem to find the setting to turn out ff the sound
Can someone help me?
Sorry, the menu is in German but you guys will probably understand what it means...there is no SOUND ...
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This is quite weird since I have a "sound" option in the same menu as you posted.. What firmware are you on?
Crazy...then I'd think its based on what country's firmware is installed...I'm from Germany and some users report (on older Sony xperia z's) that they can't disable the shutter sound.
What coutry are you from? Is there a way to get the camera app from another software? I heard there are also complications with DRM
oTToToTenTanz said:
Crazy...then I'd think its based on what country's firmware is installed...I'm from Germany and some users report (on older Sony xperia z's) that they can't disable the shutter sound.
What coutry are you from? Is there a way to get the camera app from another software? I heard there are also complications with DRM
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Sweden :good:
Maybe with the google camera app you can switch off the sound
The DRM complications might relate to unlock/root where some lowlight functions get lost for good - but if rooting/unlocking isn't a matter of life and death I wouldn't do it until a safe method is found.
I'm from germany (german stock .77 ROM, no branding etc.) and I have this option.
I'm a Google camera fanboy now. The stock app isn't consistent enough and too much time consuming. I like simplicity above the ultimate shot. Also like the photosphere ability. This way I can relive the moment in VR.
What are your Wish list for the upcoming Lollipop release?
For me, I'd realy like to see the 4k / 120FPS (Timeshift Video) to be included. It would be nice to have this in the stock features.
As for the rest, I'm already getting more than 48h on a charge, so battery life is not an issue.
What do YOU wich to have on the Lollipop release?
Pumping Bass on headphones without tweaking the rom
I want updated UI (Xperia Z3 UI) for Z1, this would be awesome. And I would like to use 120fps timeshift and 4K recording as stock in our phones (I know they won't do that). AND A NO FORCE CLOSING CAMERA!!!
incoming calls
Do not intrusive incoming call on using.
Double tap to wake, i guess. ?
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improve camera performance
the camera performance need to be improved. the camera hardware on z1 is great, but sadly under perform by it's weak software. with better and optimize software, i believe the camera on z1 can be on par with this year's current model
yeah..the camera needs improvments. and 4k and timeshift would be awesome
any news about when we will get the update?
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amey2606 said:
Double tap to wake, i guess. ?
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Not possible with Z1 panel...
As for me i would like:
better camera (4k, 120fps video etc)
music quality improvements
walkman app integration with sony smartwatch 3 because i dont use google music...
stereo audio speakers (using both speakers like on Z2+)
smart calling features
ART
and ofc what everyone wants, easy root method because its gonna be done anyway
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lollipop only runs on ART, so they don't have any choice on this!
Another vote here for improved camera performance. I think the stock Z1 camera has very poor results.
There is talk of raw camera output in Lollipop, so hopefully we get that.
I agree, with tweaks of latest roms, battery life is ok, and I'm happy with the UI, so just give us decent camera results, please.
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You guys know 4k and double tap will unlikely come to Z1 right?
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I don't need 4k since it's only for show off now. Slow mo videos too. I think it would be better if they just improved the camera performance and picture quality (taking advantage of the new apis) and add RAW shooting mode. As for UI Lollipop looks stunning so I think a GUI close to that would be perferct (sony's ui looks really outdated now). We'll see what we will get in a month when z3 recieves the update.
Better battery life!
Im sure that the z1 do much better with some tweaking and stuff.
And less bloatware
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lollipop only runs on ART, so they don't have any choice on this!
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yah realised that today too, oh well atleast we got it