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hello world , new note 10.1

Hello there guys nice to meet you :silly: , i ve neen with you for a while , reading some of your threads , but today i got my note 10.1 .
i have some questions though(i did some reasearch first )
1) how long for initial charge ? there is no indicator ,is it?
2) should i update jelly bean imediatly (through kies) i guess i will get a longer battery life , correct?
3)regarding rooting , i guess all guides are updated for rooting jellybean, right? or should i root on 4.0 and then update ?
i ve read that some methods increase binary number count wich will void my warranty ,
and some others won't.
So i would like to point me out some directions if possible . cheers !

So Mr. Trademarked Naturegod.
I don't think anyone will make that kind of decisions for you.
1. Charge it and you will see.
2. Some say so, others don't. Maybe a new ROM can max the battery life as well.
3. There is somewhere an app to decrease that back to zero.
4. You should read some more threads, write down your questions on paper and then search the forum first to find an answer.
5. Watch the registration video. I liked it.
edit: Oh, instead of writing down your questions on paper, use ure new note 10.1.

haha thank you very much , kind sir
btw i dont see any back up option on kies , correct?
any guide i follow here . on how to back up , will be updated ? or i should pay attention to some details?

I really do not know.
The first thing I have made was to install cwm via odin. Maybe an older one because the newest clockwork mod (touch) have some errors in graphic installations of some roms. So I installed a cwm that seemed to work on other notes too.
After that I installed via cwm (pay attention to bootmode) the root-zip and then a good ROM (or vice versa).
Now I can install anything I want. If I install that app to set the modification counter to zero, I can flash the original stock image back to the device and nothing ever happens. (Maybe other people tried and I forgot something.)
Via cwm you can backup. Otherwise you have to use an App like titanium backup.
Before you install any ROM or flash your device... you should install any app you want and you want to test. Play around and the best apps and things you install after a fresh rom flashing.
If you do it step by step, there isn't much you can do wrong. But still pay attention and read everything in those interesting threads. Sometimes the newest information isn't on first site.
Update to newest version, watch out for the exynos exploit (use search, but should be patched with newest samsung update) and maybe - eh, whatever. Use it like other noobs use a new tablet.
If you don't need the pen, maybe you should change to nexus 10 (?)
Normally, most member in here don't write that much. I do because I am new too. Read the Stickies in each thread. Should answer most questions.

[Q] |Help Root / ROM

I just bought a Galaxy Y GT-S5360B and I'm undecided whether or not root.
I wonder if ROMs modified for better battery saving and speed considerably, and if yes what do you recommend me ...
.. and if possible leave the link everything necessary for rooting and installing a rom modified from reliable sources.
and which android version do you recommend me to upgrade, or not should I upgrade ...
I would let my cellphone the lightest possible, disable all useless apps and effects appeared among other things that consume processing.
.. I think I'll lose my warranty

Akutabi said:
I just bought a Galaxy Y GT-S5360B and I'm undecided whether or not root.
I wonder if ROMs modified for better battery saving and speed considerably, and if yes what do you recommend me ...
.. and if possible leave the link everything necessary for rooting and installing a rom modified from reliable sources.
and which android version do you recommend me to upgrade, or not should I upgrade ...
I would let my cellphone the lightest possible, disable all useless apps and effects appeared among other things that consume processing.
.. I think I'll lose my warranty
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Don't need to root ur stock firmware for flashing roms. The thing u need is a custom recovery.
I can't tell u which rom to use coz comparing roms isn't allowed & we should respect the hard work of our DEVs.
I can only tell u that each rom has its own pros & cons. So, better to read the rom features (in the 1st post of every rom thread) & further read the comments regarding the same. You may find pretty much info there.
Good Luck!!!:thumbup::thumbup:
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1.) Read the features and research on how they work and what they do
2.) Rooting is harmless unless you modify system apps and files
3.) Read instructions carefully and know what to do, if in doubt don't hesitate to ask the developer,
4.) Be aware of the bugs that are present in the rom
5.) Perform backup for your data

I'm total idiot with a Note 4 [ PLZ HELP ]

Hello XDA ..
i got my N4 for 4 months however
i want to root and install a rom ..
what do i know about this pretty much nothing ..
what i can think of root is a way to make u the developer of the phone so u can use it complelty
and rom is like a windows of the phone [ operating system ] so i wanted a rom to delte my stupid samsung apps that
make my ram full and drain my big battery in useless stuff ..
now after i did root my note 4 on 5.0.1 i was scared af ! but it worked didn't realy use it but in ads blocking
i wanted to download simplrom but i knew 5.1.1 is coming and then i updated to it via odin
now i can't root my 5.1.1 the easy way !! i want to root then update to the next 5.1.1 simplrom srs what da hell is BOOTLOADER and Kernel AND MODEM !
in googy max kernel that's so famous ,, u can use it via odin how ever
it says - CPU Voltage control (Deltas up to +/- 100 mV)
- CPU Clock control (A53: 200MHz -> 1800MHz / A57: 500MHz -> 2100 Mhz)
- GPU Voltage control (Deltas up to +/- 100 mV)
- GPU Clock control (266MHz -> 800MHz)
wait what !! is that an OVERCLOCK like in pc / wow in a massive number upgrade :silly:
my phone gets hot enough for me and i don't realy like to get it even much hotter ! ..
and the kernel does alot of other things ... including that i can't root without one BUT WAIT !
am a normal user that knows nothing but a normal phone how can i know if there is a bug of the kernel if i don't even know
what da hell is it !! same goes for modem i know nothing about it .. and bootloader ..
please help and explain the easy way as i'm not an english pro :cyclops:
it looks like the kernel is ssomething that controls the device performance but why wouldn't i use the stock one //

Boody hegan said:
Hello XDA ..
i got my N4 for 4 months however
i want to root and install a rom ..
what do i know about this pretty much nothing ..
what i can think of root is a way to make u the developer of the phone so u can use it complelty
and rom is like a windows of the phone [ operating system ] so i wanted a rom to delte my stupid samsung apps that
make my ram full and drain my big battery in useless stuff ..
now after i did root my note 4 on 5.0.1 i was scared af ! but it worked didn't realy use it but in ads blocking
i wanted to download simplrom but i knew 5.1.1 is coming and then i updated to it via odin
now i can't root my 5.1.1 the easy way !! i want to root then update to the next 5.1.1 simplrom srs what da hell is BOOTLOADER and Kernel AND MODEM !
in googy max kernel that's so famous ,, u can use it via odin how ever
it says - CPU Voltage control (Deltas up to +/- 100 mV)
- CPU Clock control (A53: 200MHz -> 1800MHz / A57: 500MHz -> 2100 Mhz)
- GPU Voltage control (Deltas up to +/- 100 mV)
- GPU Clock control (266MHz -> 800MHz)
wait what !! is that an OVERCLOCK like in pc / wow in a massive number upgrade :silly:
my phone gets hot enough for me and i don't realy like to get it even much hotter ! ..
and the kernel does alot of other things ... including that i can't root without one BUT WAIT !
am a normal user that knows nothing but a normal phone how can i know if there is a bug of the kernel if i don't even know
what da hell is it !! same goes for modem i know nothing about it .. and bootloader ..
please help and explain the easy way as i'm not an english pro :cyclops:
it looks like the kernel is ssomething that controls the device performance but why wouldn't i use the stock one //
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First, don't be confused with all the jargon/technical terms.
Just use the phone as usual & flash (not install) anything you need/want by following the instruction thoroughly.
Second, let me explain everything as simple as possible:
KERNEL is the core of any OS (Operating System).
It does anything the phone needs without you know it.
Without it your phone is kinda expensive paper weight but it is still recoverable as long as it has a BOOTLOADER.
A ROM is a collection of software + a KERNEL so that a user can make use of the hardware (the phone)
A BOOTLOADER is in charge to "wake up" your phone as soon as the power button is presses & then load anything needed for the phone to be functional.
Without it, your phone is a very expensive brick.
A MODEM is in charge to connect you to the network(s), specially to the phone network(s).
And yes you can over/downclock your phone using some custom KERNEL, but.....if you unfamiliar with it or any tech terms...DON'T DO IT! It can bring you an EXPENSIVE brick.
Just do what you usually do.
In the case of our Phone, the right term for putting a ROM inside the phone & similar processes is called FLASH(ING).
It is entirely different between FLASHING & INSTALLING.
INSTALLING an app/software has a minimum risk of ruining your phone without the chance to recover it again.
INSTALL process occurs in the "Read & Write" part of the storage
FLASHING on the other hand has a much higher risk as if you doing it the wrong way it will "destroy" your phone FOREVER without any chances of recovery.
FLASH process occurs in the "Read Only" part of the storage.
That's why you need to read all instruction carefully before doing any FLASHING.
I hope this explanation give you a better understanding about your phone.
....And yes, this section is not for Q&A. Next time post your thread in the correct section

d4rkkn16ht said:
First, don't be confused with all the jargon/technical terms.
Just use the phone as usual & flash (not install) anything you need/want by following the instruction thoroughly.
Second, let me explain everything as simple as possible:
KERNEL is the core of any OS (Operating System).
It does anything the phone needs without you know it.
Without it your phone is kinda expensive paper weight but it is still recoverable as long as it has a BOOTLOADER.
A ROM is a collection of software + a KERNEL so that a user can make use of the hardware (the phone)
A BOOTLOADER is in charge to "wake up" your phone as soon as the power button is presses & then load anything needed for the phone to be functional.
Without it, your phone is a very expensive brick.
A MODEM is in charge to connect you to the network(s), specially to the phone network(s).
And yes you can over/downclock your phone using some custom KERNEL, but.....if you unfamiliar with it or any tech terms...DON'T DO IT! It can bring you an EXPENSIVE brick.
Just do what you usually do.
In the case of our Phone, the right term for putting a ROM inside the phone & similar processes is called FLASH(ING).
It is entirely different between FLASHING & INSTALLING.
INSTALLING an app/software has a minimum risk of ruining your phone without the chance to recover it again.
INSTALL process occurs in the "Read & Write" part of the storage
FLASHING on the other hand has a much higher risk as if you doing it the wrong way it will "destroy" your phone FOREVER without any chances of recovery.
FLASH process occurs in the "Read Only" part of the storage.
That's why you need to read all instruction carefully before doing any FLASHING.
I hope this explanation give you a better understanding about your phone.
....And yes, this section is not for Q&A. Next time post your thread in the correct section
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Lol thx ..
I didn't get the oc part .. ao the kernel makes me able to oc not oc it itself ?
What happens if i change the modem .. and do i have to change it after flashing a rom ?
My modem is coi4 ..
When some guys flash a kernel sometimes they say they got bootloads ..
And finally do i need to change the bootloader as well after rom ?
Thx alot

Boody hegan said:
Lol thx ..
I didn't get the oc part .. ao the kernel makes me able to oc not oc it itself ?
What happens if i change the modem .. and do i have to change it after flashing a rom ?
My modem is coi4 ..
When some guys flash a kernel sometimes they say they got bootloads ..
And finally do i need to change the bootloader as well after rom ?
Thx alot
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Some KERNEL has been OCed out of the box & some kernel hasn't.
Some of them can be OC & some of them can't.
No one knows if your phone will still works if you change the MODEM with incompatible one & only a fool does that.
Usually a STOCK ROM is a package of KERNEL,BOOTLOADER,ROM Softwares,RECOVERY & MODEM.
Custom ROMs on the other hand can remove or add some parts of it.
REMEMBER TO READ ALL INFORMATION & INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE YOU REGRET DOING FOOLISH THINGS!!

d4rkkn16ht said:
Some KERNEL has been OCed out of the box & some kernel hasn't.
Some of them can be OC & some of them can't.
No one knows if your phone will still works if you change the MODEM with incompatible one & only a fool does that.
Usually a STOCK ROM is a package of KERNEL,BOOTLOADER,ROM Softwares,RECOVERY & MODEM.
Custom ROMs on the other hand can remove or add some parts of it.
REMEMBER TO READ ALL INFORMATION & INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE YOU REGRET DOING FOOLISH THINGS!!
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I'm starting to get it
So if the rom is the same modem as my phone
Then i don't have to flash one ?
How can i know if it's already oc'ed or not .. and which kernel do u recommend for an idiot like me ... i just want better battery performance and faster phone
And why some developers post boot loaders with their rom ... why would i change it
From atock anyway ? Much apreciated

Boody hegan said:
I'm starting to get it
So if the rom is the same modem as my phone
Then i don't have to flash one ?
How can i know if it's already oc'ed or not .. and which kernel do u recommend for an idiot like me ... i just want better battery performance and faster phone
And why some developers post boot loaders with their rom ... why would i change it
From atock anyway ? Much apreciated
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Man,keep your phone as is,and read about things for 10 days or so !!!

Boody hegan said:
I'm starting to get it
So if the rom is the same modem as my phone
Then i don't have to flash one ?
How can i know if it's already oc'ed or not .. and which kernel do u recommend for an idiot like me ... i just want better battery performance and faster phone
And why some developers post boot loaders with their rom ... why would i change it
From atock anyway ? Much apreciated
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The only answer for this question is READ & READ again.
Read everything & ask the ROM author if you have any questions about the ROM.

[Q] AOSP/CM on G935F

Hi, I'm kind new in creating stuff for my phones but I want to give a try and bring CM/AOSP (I know that they are totally different things) to our phones.
I've done a research and all that I found was that it wasn't possible because we haven't the kernel source. But now that it is available in the Samsumg Open Source page could we make that possible?
Thanks a lot!!

If u really did the research, u should know someone had made this before but unable to call success....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/cyanogenmod-13-galaxy-s7-edge-t3414697

pigmich said:
If u really did the research, u should know someone had made this before but unable to call success....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/cyanogenmod-13-galaxy-s7-edge-t3414697
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Yes, i did read that, but everything i found was this:
In the case of the S7/S7E because the SOC is either closed source (Exynos) or has a locked bootloader (Qualcomm). The former makes it very difficult to produce a Rom that approaches anything near being stable, the latter makes it literally impossible until the bootloader is unlocked, which is unlikely to happen.
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But I can't understand why if we already got the kernel source. Can't we just modify the kernel to make a kind of "mask" that allows the ROM to use the hardware correctly?
Maybe I'm asking something really stupid, and if thats the case I'm sorry, but I really want to know why we fail in this and see if I can find a workaround

Start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/cyanogenmod-13-galaxy-s7-edge-t3414697
Get the source, make a local_manifest.xml file, get the rest of the source, edit the source code and build a rom .
But before You try, I can already tell You that it will be extremely hard to do. I've got CM to compile (yeah, compiling is actually a HUGE step) on other devices and then eventually to boot. But it took couple of days of code fixing (which I at this point somehow understand but it's still quite a magic for me).
Couple of days ago I tried building CM 13 and 14 for S7 Edge and after a whole day of fixing code and stuff I gave up. The worst issues are "shared library, excludes, includes" thingys.

I need help with custom roms

Hello, I'd like to find a custom rom that doesn't have any useless power wasting phone slowing functions, But instead focuses on performance, Any one you recommend?
Please refrain from replying with unhelpful and useless answers

Pleashelpimhlpls said:
Hello, I'd like to find a custom rom that doesn't have any useless power wasting phone slowing functions, But instead focuses on performance, Any one you recommend?
Please refrain from replying with unhelpful and useless answers
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Try not to word it like that next time, it comes across as ignorant and disrespectful even though you may not mean it that way. People will be tempted to write unhelpful and useless answers as a result. useless power wasting phone slowing functions - very subjective and vague. Please refrain from replying with unhelpful and useless answers - don't have this attitude when you're asking for help.
Try something like " I'd like to find a custom ROM that has a focus on performance. I use my phone for x , y and z. I am/ am not concerned about battery life, but I'd like it to last a whole day. I prefer an AOSP/Touchwiz based ROM. I would appreciate if anyone could give me any ROM suggestions"
Now that we got that out of the way. There is also a fair bit of info that could assist in finding the best ROM for you. What do you use your phone for? games? photos? messaging? internet browsing? any particular apps you use often? Is battery life important to you? Do you prefer AOSP or Touchwiz? what have you tried? how did that work out for you? What phone model?
Most ROMS come with these "useless power wasting phone slowing functions" because the developer wants it to work for a variety of people who all use their phone differently. If you don't like an app/ function, uninstall it. There are also ROMs that come with nothing much + AROMA to chuck in apps you want. e.g. Superlite, Xtrestolite
In absence of the extra details, I can suggest Superlite or Xtrestolite (lollipop, no longer supported - but I use and its great ) for Touchwiz. AOSP Roms such as Lineage, CrDdroid, Resurrection Remix may suit you too, but they have disadvantages - mainly battery, some sensors and camera.
I hope this helped. Pls provide more details if you would like suggestions tailored to your needs.

Eggleston11 said:
Try not to word it like that next time, it comes across as ignorant and disrespectful even though you may not mean it that way. People will be tempted to write unhelpful and useless answers as a result. useless power wasting phone slowing functions - very subjective and vague. Please refrain from replying with unhelpful and useless answers - don't have this attitude when you're asking for help.
Try something like " I'd like to find a custom ROM that has a focus on performance. I use my phone for x , y and z. I am/ am not concerned about battery life, but I'd like it to last a whole day. I prefer an AOSP/Touchwiz based ROM. I would appreciate if anyone could give me any ROM suggestions"
Now that we got that out of the way. There is also a fair bit of info that could assist in finding the best ROM for you. What do you use your phone for? games? photos? messaging? internet browsing? any particular apps you use often? Is battery life important to you? Do you prefer AOSP or Touchwiz? what have you tried? how did that work out for you? What phone model?
Most ROMS come with these "useless power wasting phone slowing functions" because the developer wants it to work for a variety of people who all use their phone differently. If you don't like an app/ function, uninstall it. There are also ROMs that come with nothing much + AROMA to chuck in apps you want. e.g. Superlite, Xtrestolite
In absence of the extra details, I can suggest Superlite or Xtrestolite (lollipop, no longer supported - but I use and its great ) for Touchwiz. AOSP Roms such as Lineage, CrDdroid, Resurrection Remix may suit you too, but they have disadvantages - mainly battery, some sensors and camera.
I hope this helped. Pls provide more details if you would like suggestions tailored to your needs.
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You're right, I' apologize.
I have a galaxy S5 g906s, i'd like to use it to play games, And i have no idea what you mean by touchwiz or aosp haha, And battery life isn't important to me as long as i squeeze out any potential performance increase

Pleashelpimhlpls said:
You're right, I' apologize.
I have a galaxy S5 g906s, i'd like to use it to play games, And i have no idea what you mean by touchwiz or aosp haha, And battery life isn't important to me as long as i squeeze out any potential performance increase
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AOSP - based on stock android e.g. pixel, nexus
touchwiz, based on samsung's software e.g. the stock one your phone came with
I am not too familiar with that model. It is an uncommon model so there is not as much development being done on it as far as I understand. I have done some research for you and found:
A page that discusses ROMs and kernels for korean models.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/korean-s5-900slk-custom-roms-t3253136
The ROMs are all ports and some AOSP here. I wouldn't go any of them if I wanted performance, other than maybe cyanogenmod TBH.
a link to TWRP, which will help you flash the custom ROM/ kernel you choose.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/recovery-twrp-recovery-v2-8-7-0-t3199011
If I were you and wanted best performance and dont care about battery life, given the poor development scene, I would keep the stock ROM, root and flash a custom kernel, then overclock and adjust voltages accordingly. Hispasian kernel is that one they have there, no idea about its features. It is an android 5.1 kernel, so make sure you are on that firmware when you flash.
Any questions, let us know. And if anyone is more familiar with this model, feel free to chime in.

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Eggleston11 said:
AOSP - based on stock android e.g. pixel, nexus
touchwiz, based on samsung's software e.g. the stock one your phone came with
I am not too familiar with that model. It is an uncommon model so there is not as much development being done on it as far as I understand. I have done some research for you and found:
A page that discusses ROMs and kernels for korean models.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/korean-s5-900slk-custom-roms-t3253136
The ROMs are all ports and some AOSP here. I wouldn't go any of them if I wanted performance, other than maybe cyanogenmod TBH.
a link to TWRP, which will help you flash the custom ROM/ kernel you choose.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/recovery-twrp-recovery-v2-8-7-0-t3199011
If I were you and wanted best performance and dont care about battery life, given the poor development scene, I would keep the stock ROM, root and flash a custom kernel, then overclock and adjust voltages accordingly. Hispasian kernel is that one they have there, no idea about its features. It is an android 5.1 kernel, so make sure you are on that firmware when you flash.
Any questions, let us know. And if anyone is more familiar with this model, feel free to chime in.
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Okay so, I have my phone rooted, And i spent the whole day trying to flash my device with a custom recovery, I tried TWRP and some other stuff, I flashed it with Odin on my computer But when i try to boot into recovery mode, The phone restarts normally, Or when i download CWM and select the TWRP recovery and tap on boot into recovery mode, The phone just loops, I had to go into download mode and flash it again for it to start normally.
Given that, Can you tell me what a kernel is and how to flash it?
Can you also tell me how to manually do this overclock thing and adjusting voltages? I have no idea how to, And my various expeditions into installing custom rom into my phone has been driving my nuts crazy, I found out about all of these when i stumbled upon bloatwares btw, Which might be the reason why all of my S3's and note 2 were having crap performance a few months after the purchase
And thanks for your time

Pleashelpimhlpls said:
Okay so, I have my phone rooted, And i spent the whole day trying to flash my device with a custom recovery, I tried TWRP and some other stuff, I flashed it with Odin on my computer But when i try to boot into recovery mode, The phone restarts normally, Or when i download CWM and select the TWRP recovery and tap on boot into recovery mode, The phone just loops, I had to go into download mode and flash it again for it to start normally.
Given that, Can you tell me what a kernel is and how to flash it?
Can you also tell me how to manually do this overclock thing and adjusting voltages? I have no idea how to, And my various expeditions into installing custom rom into my phone has been driving my nuts crazy, I found out about all of these when i stumbled upon bloatwares btw, Which might be the reason why all of my S3's and note 2 were having crap performance a few months after the purchase
And thanks for your time
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"But when i try to boot into recovery mode, The phone restarts normally" => you are probably doing it wrong then, even if TWRP patch doesn't work, you still should boot to the stock recovery. For all the models that I've tried, its been the same, I have linked a video for S7 edge, should be the same for your model (this video shows pretty much how I would go about TWRP). I couldnt find one for S5.
Just odin flash, making sure that reboot is not ticked. Then boot into download mode (volume up + home + power at the same time. press and hold in that order (its just easier) and hold down all until phone boots).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2rUfsoBkgE
I've never used CWM in my life lol. So I wont try to give advice on that.
A kernel controls the CPU, voltage, GPU, memory etc. like pretty much everything. As far as I understand, stock is not ideal or impossible to overclock. The custom kernel will allow you to overclock. Once you have twrp then you can flash a kernel with the install button on the menu. ensure that cache and davlik/ART cache is wiped (pre or post install, doesnt really matter). Do not forget to backup EFS at the very least (in the backup menu). The kernel page will tell you the developer's recommended installation method though. Make sure you look up the kernel features, not all kernels allow overclock. Make sure the kernel is compatible with your model and version of android.
I personally do not recommend overclock as it may cause system instabilities. But that may be because I dont play games on phone and dont require that much performance. I'm only supplying you with knowledge. The general disclaimer is that I am not responsible if something goes wrong and your phone bricks, explodes etc. I never made you do these mods. Phones are usually pretty resilient to overclock though.
If you need any kernel or TWRP help, I'm happy to help but bear in mind that I would not have used any of the kernels for your model nor have I used TWRP for your model. TWRP and kernels are pretty consistent across models as far as I know though.
Happy flashing!