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Now that we have kernel source... anyone see Ubuntu in our future?
I have unbuntu on my pc and in process of partitioning he for mac os x install 3 OS why not
Well, ubuntu netbook edition 10-10 would be the perfect candidate, but it seems someone already beat us to the punch:
http://techietonic.com/an-ubuntu-netbook-os-tablet-pc-edition-2011-the-tenq-p07-specs-features/#respond
If we could find a somewhere to download that version of ubuntu netbook, all the basic tablet specific work has already been done, might just need a couple tweeks. I have personally had no luck to even find the company's website though.
TheZedo said:
Well, ubuntu netbook edition 10-10 would be the perfect candidate, but it seems someone already beat us to the punch:
http://techietonic.com/an-ubuntu-netbook-os-tablet-pc-edition-2011-the-tenq-p07-specs-features/#respond
If we could find a somewhere to download that version of ubuntu netbook, all the basic tablet specific work has already been done, might just need a couple tweeks. I have personally had no luck to even find the company's website though.
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That does not apply, there are no hardware similarities between an android tablet and that one other than form factor.
That machine uses an Intel Atom processor, ubuntu install image on a usb drive and you're pretty much done on that one. Not so much for us.
I see now why the lack of Linux support for Tegra tablets...
http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/linux-support-becoming-unsupported
(follow the link in his post for some udated info)
Its sad, but between the Honeycomb delays, and Linux being put on the back burner, we have very limited choices at the moment. Ultimately I would like to have Linux on my A7 too, as long as its not uncomfortably slow with only 512MB DDR2 RAM. It looks like Meego might be the distribution to watch for any kind of prebuilt distributable images, at least they have some big players still on board for backing, and they support a variety of platforms.
If you have access to the Nvidia Tegra 250 Developer kit, you could try building a custom Gentoo distro. I really like Gentoo for its configurability options, but honestly, I'm afraid of bricking my A7 with one little mistake.
Android still uses a Linux kernel though, so with kernel source and ability to compile for the tegra chip progress will not grind to a halt. Things just unfortunately won't move along as quickly as most of us would like.
I think a modified version of Ubuntu NBR would run fairly quick on an a7 though.
After some more digging around on the Nvidia Developers forum, I tracked down a few "work-arounds" to install linux...however, please note that most of these posts are very dated.
http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/workaround-run-ubuntu-now
http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/fedora-12gnome-running-tegra
http://www.elinux.org/Installation_Detail
I would dare to call this post, "Instructions for the Brave".
After reading those it does sound like we could have a unbuntu os
Hi guys I am buying a eee pad but currently I am emailing Eclipse Google and others to try and get support to make developing for Android on Android possible.
I wish to start a foundation or support group toward this end if you want to contribute or help in anyway it would be great I will also add a poll for comparison of votes so please vote it all helps.
As I understand it porting Ubuntu to different devices is well still in beta stages for the most part but we all know that personalized mobile computing is the future and tablets or tf style devices will eventually replace laptops netbooks and the like.
As I understand the biggest problem is new tech!! that fresh out the box smell is still lingering and leaves support and development slim in some more common place computing needs where x86 has rained supreme leaving others to wish for such a client base of great support and programs.
So all in all this is to try push things in the right direction. Who to talk to when to talk to them and how to help the eee pad and other similar devices become fully fledged dual boot Android Ubuntu platforms with the option to develop and do all the other great things Ubuntu can offer.
Please only positive criticism or feedback this is the tech community anything is possible so please no comments of OMG YOU CANT DO THAT!!!! etc etc
Currently, you can compile C program or whatever without problems, using a chroot ubuntu or debian.
But developing for android implies that the android sdk has to be ported on arm platform. This is a paradox, but most android and java tools are working only on x86 platform, probably because at this time, phones was not meant to be dev platforms considering their cpu power.
Openjdk seems to work on arm but the android sdk relies on javac from sun.
There are now powerful tablet devices on the market - including our beloved tf - where we could potentially develop android apps ; I think that google will sooner or later release an arm version of the android sdk. Since then, we are almost pretty stuck : I'm not sure that all the android tools are opensource, and even if it is the case, there is still the problem of javac from sun which does not work on arm platform. However, doing our own dev platform implies that we can port ourselves the sdk on arm, and use openjdk as a replacement of sun-java runtime. Not a piece of cake My advice is to wait several months google next move to see what's going to happen, now that there are more and more tablets on the market.
If we get enough support though maybe we can push for both to be ported and released
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Omg this doesn"t belong in the development forum!!!!!!!
Would love to see more development done on this!
As time progresses, more will be done definitely this is more about making sure that it is pushed as i believe at the moment its being over looked. I think manufacturers and Google and eclipse etc all under estimate there own products possibilities and the abilities of the tech community and in particular the xda community. Even if we had beta releases only for xda devs it would be a step in the right direction for developing android on android.
OK I'm going to bite the bullet and ask why would this be considered a good idea? I write software for Android and using Eclipse on lower screen resolutions isn't that productive IMHO, throw in poor keyboards and miniscule touchpads and it makes little sense. Finally considering the performance differences between a tablet and development laptop (i7, 8 GB RAM, SSD, etc) I just can't see getting the development tools working on an Android device to be all that useful at this point in time.
Nvidia is claiming the T3 will be as powerful as a Core 2. Seems a little exaggerated, but in the near future, it may be possible to dev. on a tab. Eclipse (and real games) are the last things tying me to my PC. Now I would not want to run Eclipse on a T2, but a T4??? Now we are talking.
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OK I'm going to bite the bullet and ask why would this be considered a good idea? I write software for Android and using Eclipse on lower screen resolutions isn't that productive IMHO, throw in poor keyboards and miniscule touchpads and it makes little sense. Finally considering the performance differences between a tablet and development laptop (i7, 8 GB RAM, SSD, etc) I just can't see getting the development tools working on an Android device to be all that useful at this point in time.
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I tend to agree. I find even a powerful laptop is pretty marginal. I prefer a desktop with at least 2 monitors, one for code and one for the emulator.
All valid points but if no one is looking forward at the glass half full it wont become a reality
What I'm saying is work needs to start now infrastructure then city not a repeat of Auckland central we need the ground work done then the devices can catch up
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I support, its something i would use.
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I support, its something i would use.
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I've a script pack for installing Java's JDK to ARM either hard float or soft float that can be found at the following link
https://github.com/S0AndS0/Debian-Kit-Mods
Check the readme for how to download and enjoy the work I've done to get us this far. Furthermore there are other installers available that may be of interest; such as jMonkey and node.js and NoFlo installers for debian based Linux OS's running on Android.
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Anyone alive on this thread?
I've some links to information and projects relating to developments on Android and Linux Android systems.
For running GNU software on Android (better than busybox perhaps)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2613243
Some maybe slower than the busybox versions but its a small sacrifice for better compatibility.
For running SDR (software defined radio) with Android or Android Linux
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108053
https://github.com/martinmarinov/rtl_tcp_andro-
This github is really cool because the drivers are for either.
For running OpenBTS on Android Linux (turn your cellphone into a cell tower)
https://github.com/martinmarinov/rtl_tcp_andro-
Do some digging on this Dev's work; its amazing
For Crypto Currency mining on Android Linux (why buy an app when you'll have more for free here?)
http://bitbiz.io/threads/linux-script-cpu-minerd-installer-android-rpi-vps-32-64bit-pc.138/
Be sure to check out the example scripts I posted too; especially the ones relating to temp. monitoring or ya may blow a battery.
For MPI (message passing interface) on Android Linux (just modify the RPi directions to have the right username and networking options)
http://www.tinkernut.com/2014/04/27/make-cluster-computer/
Be sure to check out TinkerNut's other videos and guides; nearly anything a Raspberry Pi can do we can do on our phones for cheaper and with better specs/built in hardware.
For running Maptools server on Android (software for running custom table top games over a network)
http://forums.rptools.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=24082
I play DnD and Pathfinder so having a way to go mobile with it was something I had to do for them
For building Android NDK on Android Linux (step one of writing apps for Android on Android)
http://www.timelesssky.com/blog/building-android-sdk-build-tools-aapt-for-debian-arm
For building Android SDK on Android Linux (step two for writing/modding you phone with your phone)
http://www.timelesssky.com/blog/develop-app-on-android-with-android-sdk
Above two links are fantastic when combined with rdp or vnc for a larger screen size when at home.
For running Linux on Android without root (hidden goodies on FUSE filesystem)
http://www.timelesssky.com/blog/debian-android-with-no-root
There's a narrow window of compatibility but if your apposed to root on Android and still want Linux theses steps might just let you pull it off too.
For modifying Debian Kits' source code so you can have loop files larger than 2 Gigs and install hard floating point instead of soft float
http://www.timelesssky.com/blog/running-debian-armhf-alongside-android#comment-1525580294
If you've not found this Dev's blog then do some digging as there is some really cool guides posted.
For installing GPU drivers to Android Linux (scroll down to Related Projects for the other brands)
http://freedreno.github.io/
The above link and related software should allow for OpenCL/GL support and the added bonus of being able to run Blender on your tablet.
The above links should prove that developments on Android and Android Linux systems is very active; just hard to find sometimes.
I'm currently working at http://bitbiz.io/rf/?c=IGQ3ZLRT with a few other team members to bring together the above subjects into a new mesh-networking crypto coin system that allows users and developers to buy or rent hardware time from networked devices; others have tried and failed to make a AndroidCoin but this one will not as much of the core features have already been tested or scripted up in my other github repo as installers. Feel free to post feature requests and concerns.
http://bitbiz.io/threads/altcoin-taucoin-new-arm-excusive-coin.142/
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Linux Install guide for Android devices that I'm writing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240397
Or
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ssVeIhdBuuy8CtpBP1lWgUkG6fR6oHxP20ToYPPw6zI/edit?usp=drive_web
And my script pack for installing; Java's JDK, node.js and more to your Linux OS
https://github.com/S0AndS0/Debian-Kit-Mods
Note: if you're new to Linux/scripting/command line; check readme file for instructions.
XBMC will soon be the driving force for people looking to purchase Android TV devices. The Android TV community however, is seriously lacking in the ROM department for Android TV sticks and set top boxes. If you're a reputable developer and interested in getting involved in this new, exciting and soon to be huge community which is the Android TV community here at XDA, get with me and I'll make sure you get the hardware and information you need.
Cheers!
Can elobrate more.
Hope to help.
Have MK808
Basically I'm trying to get a team together of people experienced in Android TV Sticks so that we can make proper documentation and perhaps create better ROM firmware files for them. I have many resources and hardware to share. Just get in touch at my site.
XBMC ANDROID said:
Basically I'm trying to get a team together of people experienced in Android TV Sticks so that we can make proper documentation and perhaps create better ROM firmware files for them. I have many resources and hardware to share. Just get in touch at my site.
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What you need to get proper development on these is some proper kernel sources for Rockchip processors... The RK3066 "sources" are incomplete, and use "blobbed" .o files rather than including the c sources for some parts.
While I've been working on CM10 with some another guy, this is a fairly big nuisance.
The MTD driver is blobbed, and very badly broken... Needing lots of workarounds to just make it work.
There's limitations to what is possible, but some decent kernel sources would be the first thing. The actual building and booting of the kernels is less of an issue now we've got that figured out.
Devolpers rk3066
Here u have some intresstering links for rk3066 devices.
[/COLOR]Ubuntu for rk3066 devices:
http://code.google.com/p/rk3066-linux/
First linux webserver running on a rk3066 device
http://ubuntu.g8.net/
Source code:
http://service.i-onik.de/
extra.
http://odroid.foros-phpbb.com/t2051-working-mali-400-opengl-es-acceleration
hey guys , i've heard about this project console OS ,
add kickstarter host to the start of this or google it -> /projects/mmv/console-os-dual-boot-android-remastered-for-the-pc
is kickstarter founded and is trying to bring an Desktop experience for android devices X86 and ARM , so i think i would be awesome to have it on MOJO , also it would be android kitkat, the devices they are going to work with depend vote of people so if you are interested we can apply for a 10$ fund to get our MOJO with and awesome android version
what do yo think ?
Mojo is not x86 so no won't happen
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Not sure I follow why you would want it on the MOJO, but I did back it several weeks ago when it was around 25k, so I am looking forward to seeing what Console OS will do, specifically for getting Android on windows desktops. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
senteix2 said:
hey guys , i've heard about this project console OS ,
add kickstarter host to the start of this or google it -> /projects/mmv/console-os-dual-boot-android-remastered-for-the-pc
is kickstarter founded and is trying to bring an Desktop experience for android devices X86 and ARM , so i think i would be awesome to have it on MOJO , also it would be android kitkat, the devices they are going to work with depend vote of people so if you are interested we can apply for a 10$ fund to get our MOJO with and awesome android version
what do yo think ?
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https://www.kickstarter.com/project...t-android-remastered-for-the-pc/?ref=kicktraq
This is convergence in full effect!
Good post, I wasn't aware of this.
Basically it's a vendor port of Android to some laptops/Tablets.
"We have to build Android for one device at a time"
Limited HW target builds, so it's not like windows/linux, install on anything... but like a mobile custom build.
There's a lot of cheap android netbooks on ebay already... basically cheap phone HW.
"....We're taking the next step, and bringing Android back to the desktop." of cause! lol
This is mainly targeting tablets though, switching between windows and android.
PC support, sounds secondary (too many drivers to rebuild.. thus the voting).
Android, has a small footprint (like winXP) and runs in emulation on a PC just fine.
Not sure why you would want ConsoleOS on mojo... it's already android?
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Mojo is not x86 so no won't happen
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my mistake i didn't read that part
christoph80 said:
Not sure I follow why you would want it on the MOJO, but I did back it several weeks ago when it was around 25k, so I am looking forward to seeing what Console OS will do, specifically for getting Android on windows desktops. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
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they said at least these
out of the gates, we will support 25 iconic Laptops, PCs, x86 tablets and convertible devices with Console OS. And, here they are:
ASUS: Transformer Book T100
Dell: XPS 11, XPS 12, XPS 13, and XPS 15, Venue 8 Pro, Venue 11 Pro
Intel: Next Unit of Computing (all NUC models except for 847DYE)
Lenovo: Miix 2 8-inch, Miix 2 10-inch, IdeaPad U430p, ThinkPad X1 Carbon, Yoga 2, Yoga Pro 2
Sager: NP2740
Sony: VAIO Tap 11, VAIO Pro 11 & 13
System76: Galago UltraPro
Toshiba: Protege R30 & Z30, Tecra A50, Z50 & Z40
And, of course, all of our own iConsole-branded hardware like iConsole Unit 00 (and more, new hardware coming later this month)
gwaldo said:
https://www.kickstarter.com/project...t-android-remastered-for-the-pc/?ref=kicktraq
This is convergence in full effect!
Good post, I wasn't aware of this.
Basically it's a vendor port of Android to some laptops/Tablets.
"We have to build Android for one device at a time"
Limited HW target builds, so it's not like windows/linux, install on anything... but like a mobile custom build.
There's a lot of cheap android netbooks on ebay already... basically cheap phone HW.
"....We're taking the next step, and bringing Android back to the desktop." of cause! lol
This is mainly targeting tablets though, switching between windows and android.
PC support, sounds secondary (too many drivers to rebuild.. thus the voting).
Android, has a small footprint (like winXP) and runs in emulation on a PC just fine.
Not sure why you would want ConsoleOS on mojo... it's already android?
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yeah is android almost pure only with a custom windows manager and launcher
read this part
WindowFlinger – A true window manager for Android – run Android apps in windows (Console OS will run two apps side-by-side without Pro)
InstaSwitch – Building a new hypervisor to instantly toggle between native Android and native Windows
Console Remote Access -> Remotely access your Console OS device from any old Android
Additional codecs and media playback support
Native DVR support (planned ATSC, DVB, QAM/CableCARD, & DTCP-IP)
Built-in media serving (UPnP and DLNA)
Console Files – A new file manager we’re building in to the desktop
Console Maps Pro – Premium Maps with Enhanced Turn-by-Turn
also its Kit Kat
also you allow you switch instanly form one SO to other in x86 is with Windows or Ubuntu ,if they do a ARM version is posible to have Ubuntu and Android
acording to the FAQ
What about dual-booting with Ubuntu?
It's our goal to do so - but we had to limit our feature list to the bare minimum that we can shoot for with our initial goal of $50,000 to raise. We actually dual-boot with Ubuntu in the lab, routinely, so it's a matter of when, not if.
As to other flavors of Linux, it'll be based on demand but once we support Ubuntu, most Debian-based flavors should fall into order.
Anyway they dont have a ARM version
I am currently starting development on Android TV for the Raspberry PI.
Not actual Android TV, but an android OS with all possibilities like Android TV.
The main reason for this project is that the most of the TVs that have HDMI have no support for the Android TV. With this you can get that experience without buying a new TV.
If you know any project like this, or have heard of someone starting a similar project, please inform me in this Thread.
And also would you like to see something like this for the raspberry PI? If you have any questions or suggestions, please write.
We are searching for developers, so please if you are interested please PM-me.
The project will be open source!
Hi, I was curious to know if this is still an active project?
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If someone was able to port an Android based ROM over, it would be pretty easy seeing as you would only need to port apks and stuff at that point....
The reason for me being here is: Amazon prime instant video isn´t working any more @ Kodi/XBMC etc. and it is unsure if it will be working ever again... (According to lordk @ kodinerds)
So the best solution will be using the app @ Android and i think there will be more raspberry pi2 user changing over to android.
Respect!!
If you need a tester, i´m ready for it.
Hristijan_95 said:
I am currently starting development on Android TV for the Raspberry PI.
Not actual Android TV, but an android OS with all possibilities like Android TV.
The main reason for this project is that the most of the TVs that have HDMI have no support for the Android TV. With this you can get that experience without buying a new TV.
If you know any project like this, or have heard of someone starting a similar project, please inform me in this Thread.
And also would you like to see something like this for the raspberry PI? If you have any questions or suggestions, please write.
We are searching for developers, so please if you are interested please PM-me.
The project will be open source!
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Whoa! Nice idea! Here are some threads which I guess can help You out:
Cyanogen 12.1 test builds for Raspi2
DevBerryPi
PiCast
Hope these help in some way.
Would love you for this?
There is a kind lollipop running. http://raspex.exton.se/?p=43
FWIW the marshmallow AOSP build from peyo works, and has GPU accel mostly working I believe. Other info here. Every other build I have found seems to be based off his and a handful of other peoples work.
I just tried a few forks of Android x86 on my RasPi 2 and all of them lagged like hell...
I would be very interested in Android TV on my RasPi 2, if it works without laggs.
JulianAT said:
I just tried a few forks of Android x86 on my RasPi 2 and all of them lagged like hell...
I would be very interested in Android TV on my RasPi 2, if it works without laggs.
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Considering that RasPi's are all either ARMv6 or ARMv7 class cores, I very much doubt you tried any X86 Android ports on your Pi2.
Found the android google group and appareantly there are some folks that got GPU accleration working with android 6.0 on the pi 2, check out the video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCfdvZSOGuw
Oh i so hope someone will get this done...
I'm looking for a working youtube TV (like it should, not the addon in Kodi) so i can use the youtube app directly, not via Yatse..
Also would like to play around with android on my pi2..
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FWIW the marshmallow AOSP build from peyo works, and has GPU accel mostly working I believe. Other info here. Every other build I have found seems to be based off his and a handful of other peoples work.
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Would be nice if they also supported the Pi2. Looks like it's mostly Pi3 there
Thanks!!!
Hello, I need some help!
I have a raspberry pi 3 model, with the raspbian OS installed, and i'm trying to make GUI menu with some buttons, and when i click it will start applications installed on the raspbian, like Kodi, Libre Office and others or a page browser.
But the problem is that I can't make it. I already tried the Glade and the Python but that doesn't allow me to do what I really want.
Does anyone know such a program?
Thanks
Android based ROMs for Raspberry Pi - (Index of Android based ROMs for Raspberry Pi)
AOSP/Android TV for Raspberry Pi 3 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/ra...-tab-pi-aosp-android-tv-raspberry-pi-t3593506
LineageOS 14.1 (Android 7.1.2) for Raspberry Pi 3 - http://konstakang.com/devices/rpi3/CM14.1/
RaspAnd Nougat 7.1.2 for Raspberry Pi 3 - http://raspex.exton.se/?s=RaspAnd
RTAndroid - https://rtandroid.embedded.rwth-aachen.de/