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i turned on S now it wont let me turn it back on please help

hi guys i turned on s because iam sending this back to tmo. but i forgot to flash the stock recovery img and now i am attempting to root again with visionary. it says already rooted. but it wont give me permission. and the s is on. what do i do please help...

anyone...?

This is probably going to get moved to the Q & A forum before I can finish posting this.
I have yet to find an easier root process or an easier set of instructions to follow, than the following post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
Please read that in its entirety. This is such an easy process that anyone who gets lost or messes it up, might not want to try it in the first place. I'm being as honest as possible, not trying to be insulting.
Ultimately, S=On is part of the un-root process, soooo, you're back at scratch. This means you would need to start back at the top of that post above and follow the instructions on how to root your phone/get S=Off.
Good luck!

shlongwoodian said:
This is probably going to get moved to the Q & A forum before I can finish posting this.
I have yet to find an easier root process or an easier set of instructions to follow, than the following post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
Please read that in its entirety. This is such an easy process that anyone who gets lost or messes it up, might not want to try it in the first place. I'm being as honest as possible, not trying to be insulting.
Ultimately, S=On is part of the un-root process, soooo, you're back at scratch. This means you would need to start back at the top of that post above and follow the instructions on how to root your phone/get S=Off.
Good luck!
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i understand BUT when i run visionary it tells me already rooted.... but when i type in su it says permission denied....

We're going to need some additional details. You on 2.2.1? Have you restarted your phone since and tried again?
I'll spell it out for you - it really is dead-simple...
(***paraphrasing the OFFICIAL instructions in the thread I linked to above***)
- Enable USB Debugging
- Extract the root.rar in the original post - MAKE SURE YOU PAID ATTENTION AND NOTICED THERE IS A ROOT FOLDER WITHIN A ROOT FOLDER - a nested folder. You do NOT WANT THIS. You want just one /root folder on your sdcard, within it at the .sh scripts.
- Install VISIONary
- Attempt Temp Root
- Run Terminal emulator, type su and follow the instructions in the original post to execute the script - reboot.
- When your phone comes back up, run VISIONary again
- Attempt Temp Root
- Attempt Perm Root
There is really no way to mess this up. I have done this on 6 MT4G's, so if it's not working, you didn't follow the instructions - no doubt, no question. You don't need ADB - you can do this all from your phone with a file explorer (I use EStrongs) and a terminal emulator (I use Android Terminal Emulator).
I'm surprised this hasn't been moderated yet...

2012iawait said:
i understand BUT when i run visionary it tells me already rooted...
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What do you mean it "tells you already rooted"? I am rooted and just running VISIONary - that is, launching VISIONary - it doesn't tell you anything. If you click Temproot now, is that when it shows that?
You know you have to first do Temproot and then do Permroot, right? From what I've seen, you can't "over root," so honestly, I highly recommend starting over again. If possible, I would literally type out each and every step you're taking. Maybe it will show us where you're messing up.

Try a different version of visionary... r11 is my preference
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ESKIMOn00b said:
Try a different version of visionary... r11 is my preference
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
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Good call. I thought about that as soon as I finished my last reply - i.e. check the VISIONary version.
I've been using r14 since my first MT4G and haven't had a single issue on any of the MT4G's I've used it on.

guys loook.... i am using r11 when i click root now.... it says already rooted i can access the clock work recover and everything but s is on and i dont have super user permission.... i turned the s on but now i cant turn it of. i dont have super user permission in terminal

2012iawait said:
i turned the s
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So that means you used the unroot.rar file and the process outlined in the first post? That's how you got S back =On again?

ok finally i got it. but now it wont let me flash the stock reocovery image i tried in adb and terminal in terminal it says file not found. and in adb sending reovery<3948kb> falled< status malformed help..... i have to send this back tomorrow

2012iawait said:
ok finally i got it.
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So what was it? It would help if you posted your mistake, so maybe it can help someone else that runs into problems.

shlongwoodian said:
So what was it? It would help if you posted your mistake, so maybe it can help someone else that runs into problems.
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i had to unroot it restart the temp root again then permroot.
done ... i flashed stock recovery....

Please post questions in Q&A section.

Root help, i'm confused!

Hi there everyone,
I want to root my Desire HD, but I don't want to install any custom roms, radios, etc. I only want to root my HD so I can install apps that require root. I see no advantage in installing any custom ROMs, so I want to leave that alone.
What's the best way to go about this? I've found this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834427. Do I need to do anything else, except what is in this guide? I'm terrified of bricking my phone!
Could I brick my device if I made a mistake with the above guide, or S-OFF?
Thanks in advance,
Alex
Sorry for the question (no doubt it's been asked before), I've rooted my old HTC Hero before, found that easy, but this I'm confused!

Hi there. I'm actually quite a noob at all this since rooting is all new to me but seems you and I went after similar threads because I also read that guide to rooting the DHD at first. But after some further reading I discovered this is actually a much more difficult method of rooting (maybe because it's older?).
It will really, really help to look in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846248 as it explains so much and has many useful links.
But in answer to your question read this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841076 A much easier method of rooting =)
Good luck.

nikmesh said:
Hi there. I'm actually quite a noob at all this since rooting is all new to me but seems you and I went after similar threads because I also read that guide to rooting the DHD at first. But after some further reading I discovered this is actually a much more difficult method of rooting (maybe because it's older?).
It will really, really help to look in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846248 as it explains so much and has many useful links.
But in answer to your question read this guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841076 A much easier method of rooting =)
Good luck.
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Thanks for that link! Looks a lot easier haha!
Detailed description:
1) Download Paul's Visionary+ tool
1.1) Click here to download http://android.modaco.com/content/ht...ne-click-root/ or download it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...3&d=1290501865
1.2) Install Visionary+ on Your DHD
1.3) Run it, enable "Set system r/w after root
1.4) Click "Temproot Now!" - Wait until it's finished
1.5) Click Attempt Permroot Now!
1.6) DHD automatically reboot's
To test that everything went fine download from market application "terminal emulator"
run it, type su
If You get after that sign # it mean's that everything went fine.
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After I've ran that step - do I have permroot and I don't need to do anything else? I only want root, not custom ROM's.
I'm scared of doing the permroot, sounds like I'll break my phone if I even attempt it! Is there any way to ensure it will work?

Yeh you will be perma rooted if you follow the steps. About ensuring it will work, this is something I am now looking into myself. I'm getting the impression that it's possible to create a copy of the stock rom even without the perma root and using that to do a recovery in the event of a root failure. Though I would have thought perma root would have been needed to do a recovery in the first place....
I've got a thread below yours where I'm still trying to get a clear answer as to how to do all that. If I find out I'll let u know =P

nikmesh said:
Yeh you will be perma rooted if you follow the steps. About ensuring it will work, this is something I am now looking into myself. I'm getting the impression that it's possible to create a copy of the stock rom even without the perma root and using that to do a recovery in the event of a root failure. Though I would have thought perma root would have been needed to do a recovery in the first place....
I've got a thread below yours where I'm still trying to get a clear answer as to how to do all that. If I find out I'll let u know =P
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By "if you follow the steps" - do you mean I only have to follow step 1 for perm root? Or more than that?
Sorry for all the questions, I really do appreciate your help, thanks!
And also - if it fails, the stock WWE RUU can be flashed to restore the phone, can't it?
EDIT: Followed step one, restarted device and everything - perm root stays. Thanks for all your help mate!

Detailed description:
1) Download Paul's Visionary+ tool
1.1) Click here to download http://android.modaco.com/content/ht...ne-click-root/ or download it from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...3&d=1290501865
1.2) Install Visionary+ on Your DHD
1.3) Run it, enable "Set system r/w after root
1.4) Click "Temproot Now!" - Wait until it's finished
1.5) Click Attempt Permroot Now!
1.6) DHD automatically reboot's
To test that everything went fine download from market application "terminal emulator"
run it, type su
If You get after that sign # it mean's that everything went fine.
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Go all way through these steps from 1.1 to 1.6. Once you've done 1.6 your phone should be rooted. Just download the terminal emulator from the market and do that last thing that is mentioned to test the perma rooting. If that works then your good.
Oh just so you know the temp root option in Visionary is apparently completely safe and won't harm nothing because it makes no changes to the system partition.
Not sure about the WWE RUU. I'm not sure it will be compatible with your current ROM (Only thing I do know is that if it's older then your current it won't work). Don't know how to flash it either tbh, that's something I ain't found out yet =P

I downgraded from the Official AT&T 2.2 update back to 2.1

I used the info on this page: *android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/310873/possible-hboot-downgrade/* it didn't downgrade the hboot, but that might be something to work on.
CHANGE STEP 3.4. "change it to 1.15.405.1" don't do that, change the "2.20.502.1" in the misc.img from your aria to 1.25.502.2
Oh and you'll need either a Temp root, or a Shell root for adb

I have done this and can confirm that this works
Thanks mate!

I just noticed the Aria got 2.2 finally, albiet through this silly sync method.... It's my wifes phone, I'm sure she's not going to be happy to have to hard reset it.. wth.
Anyway, so why are you guys going back to 2.1? I am surprised not to see more discussion on 2.2 in this forum, but I don't frequent it much since I don't own the Aria myself.

khaytsus said:
I just noticed the Aria got 2.2 finally, albiet through this silly sync method.... It's my wifes phone, I'm sure she's not going to be happy to have to hard reset it.. wth.
Anyway, so why are you guys going back to 2.1? I am surprised not to see more discussion on 2.2 in this forum, but I don't frequent it much since I don't own the Aria myself.
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I went back to 2.1 because the 2.2.2 version that AT&T released was extremely slow, and my touchscreen would become unresponsive.

andrewishcool95 said:
I used the info on this page: *android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/310873/possible-hboot-downgrade/* it didn't downgrade the hboot, but that might be something to work on.
CHANGE STEP 3.4. "change it to 1.15.405.1" don't do that, change the "2.20.502.1" in the misc.img from your aria to 1.25.502.2
Oh and you'll need either a Temp root, or a Shell root for adb
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How do you get a temp root or shell root with the new HBoot still in-place? If temp root is possible, then can't you install clockworkmod and get permaroot?

Gene Poole said:
How do you get a temp root or shell root with the new HBoot still in-place? If temp root is possible, then can't you install clockworkmod and get permaroot?
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I got a shell root from super one click root (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682)
after I downgraded to 2.1 I got z4root to get a temp root.

andrewishcool95 said:
I got a shell root from super one click root (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682)
after I downgraded to 2.1 I got z4root to get a temp root.
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I'm also very curious about this.

Sounds like the first steps to rooting and downgrading. I'm curious to see if any developers catch this
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA Premium App

I've been reading up on this and the skinny is that the HBOOT image controls the S-ON and S-OFF flags of the NAND RAM in the device. Even with a temp root shell, you can't write to a partition with its S-ON flag set. This normally includes all the partitions on the phone except the data partition, so trying to root the device requires some sort of interaction with the HBOOT image to turn off the S-ON flag for the recovery and system partitions to properly root a phone.
In short, if and until someone hacks hboot_liberty_7227_1.02.0000_101104, your phone is unrootable.

Gene Poole said:
I've been reading up on this and the skinny is that the HBOOT image controls the S-ON and S-OFF flags of the NAND RAM in the device. Even with a temp root shell, you can't write to a partition with its S-ON flag set. This normally includes all the partitions on the phone except the data partition, so trying to root the device requires some sort of interaction with the HBOOT image to turn off the S-ON flag for the recovery and system partitions to properly root a phone.
In short, if and until someone hacks hboot_liberty_7227_1.02.0000_101104, your phone is unrootable.
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Help me out, I may be thinking in the wrong direction, but I've been dealing with my nook which is why I thought of this.
Is there not a way to write an hboot to an sd-card or connect via usb at start to make the aria think that the sd-card or the usb connection is the corrected hboot, thus being able to modify?

FroztIkon said:
Help me out, I may be thinking in the wrong direction, but I've been dealing with my nook which is why I thought of this.
Is there not a way to write an hboot to an sd-card or connect via usb at start to make the aria think that the sd-card or the usb connection is the corrected hboot, thus being able to modify?
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There may be. When I first got my Aria, the rooting procedure involved an HTC signed update that you fooled the hboot into partially loading, then swapped the sdcard with the root package. It involved some complex timing issues where you had to run adb in a loop and plug/unplug the usb cable at appropriate times.
I've been searching the net for that procedure and I can't seem to find the right search terms, or I'm just not looking in the right places or something, but I know that's how I did my Aria before there was an unrevoked plug-n-root.

I have the procedure u are looking for i think...let me know if this is what u were after because i have an archive of saved documents I have copied from forums in the past...GOOD LUCK!
well apparently i haven't posted enough to put the links up in the post

PM me if you want the process...

xerotix said:
PM me if you want the process...
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May I have a copy of said process? Currently the only way is to buy a very expensive hardware called XClip. I have managed to get the updated 2.2.2 Stock ROM rooted but not deodex or EXT3 FOR ap2sd trying to play with some files from another source to get hboot s off.

econcep said:
May I have a copy of said process? Currently the only way is to buy a very expensive hardware called XClip. I have managed to get the updated 2.2.2 Stock ROM rooted but not deodex or EXT3 FOR ap2sd trying to play with some files from another source to get hboot s off.
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That process does not work with the new HBOOT. That's why unrevoked doesn't work. Having root access does not unlock NAND.
Currently, the only way known is via hardware tools.

It works. I managed a work around for 2.2.2 update
Hey everyone I am in the second phase of testing my work around with the new HTC Aria update from ATT. I managed to load the update and keep my phone rooted. I am now in the setup mode with no bootloop.
Running into a couple of issues with the new radio but I believe I know how to fix that as well. Keep you all posted and once all bugs worked out I will post my findings and HOPEFULLY MY ROOTED ROM.ZIP with instructions.
IF AT FIRST YOU DON'T SUCCEED.....TRY TRY TRY and TRY I did and I am 99% there.

econcep said:
Hey everyone I am in the second phase of testing my work around with the new HTC Aria update from ATT. I managed to load the update and keep my phone rooted. I am now in the setup mode with no bootloop.
Running into a couple of issues with the new radio but I believe I know how to fix that as well. Keep you all posted and once all bugs worked out I will post my findings and HOPEFULLY MY ROOTED ROM.ZIP with instructions.
IF AT FIRST YOU DON'T SUCCEED.....TRY TRY TRY and TRY I did and I am 99% there.
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This might be the wrong thread. Did you manage to get around the HBOOT issue with the 2.2 update? If not, then you've just done the same thing I did the day after this release was out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970272

Gene Poole said:
This might be the wrong thread. Did you manage to get around the HBOOT issue with the 2.2 update? If not, then you've just done the same thing I did the day after this release was out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970272
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You are right this might be the wrong thread. But I managed a work around with the new update 2.2.2 and the HBOOT 1.0X. As soon as I can confirm without a doubt that it works and will be able to repeat the process successfully with my husband's ARIA (unfortunately we love hacking things and tend to buy multiple devices) I will be more than happy to share the results.
Again, my apologies if it's the wrong thread.

econcep said:
You are right this might be the wrong thread. But I managed a work around with the new update 2.2.2 and the HBOOT 1.0X. As soon as I can confirm without a doubt that it works and will be able to repeat the process successfully with my husband's ARIA (unfortunately we love hacking things and tend to buy multiple devices) I will be more than happy to share the results.
Again, my apologies if it's the wrong thread.
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Perhaps I misread (or we're talking past each other). You do have, in fact, HBOOT 1.02.0000 on your Aria, and managed to write to the system partition?

Yes & No. I'm stuck on couple of things. First the will temporary give me root access but then it locks up saying I don't have busybox. I'm rooted but no s-off. I also noticed when I reboot into recovery I go into CWM 2.5.0.1 but other times it boots into CWM 2.5.0.7. When that happens I loose my unknown source in settings>application. Again, if this is the wrong thread, I really am sorry.
I googled alpharev and some others who have worked on rooting. Found some cached pages from Jan when they were testing to root/s-off the Aria. Basing my work on that and couple of other devices that are similar to the Aria.

[Q] Unrooting Without Bricking

In order to troubleshoot an issue with my phone, I need to unroot. I originally rooted using this guide. I have been reading all of the unrooting posts I can find here on XDA and honestly, I'm not sure which one to use. I really don't want to brick my phone.
This was my first time rooting and will be my first time unrooting. If someone could point me towards the correct steps/link/guide that will allow me to unroot properly, I would be very appreciative. Please let me know if you need to know more about my setup.
Thanks.

Its easy. Just place the PD15IMG.zip on your SD card then go into bootloader and let it do its thing. You can pick between 2.2.1 and 2.3.4. They're somewhere in the development or general sections. Good luck.
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SJMarty said:
In order to troubleshoot an issue with my phone, I need to unroot. I originally rooted using this guide. I have been reading all of the unrooting posts I can find here on XDA and honestly, I'm not sure which one to use. I really don't want to brick my phone.
This was my first time rooting and will be my first time unrooting. If someone could point me towards the correct steps/link/guide that will allow me to unroot properly, I would be very appreciative. Please let me know if you need to know more about my setup.
Thanks.
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Seems you rooted gfree method.Try this ways
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924923

invasion2 said:
Its easy. Just place the PD15IMG.zip on your SD card then go into bootloader and let it do its thing. You can pick between 2.2.1 and 2.3.4. They're somewhere in the development or general sections. Good luck.
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Thanks. I restored stock v2.3.4 and everything appears to have gone OK but I still have S-OFF. It restored the non-engineering bootloader but it's still S-OFF. Do you know what I need to do to get S-ON?

You used gfree right? Here are the procedures...they are taken from here.
Procedure to revert
1. Rename the part7backup file that you already have to something just so you know that it is the original backup.
2. Open up terminal emulator or adb shell and type "su" + enter to get root privileges.
3. Type "cd /data/local" and hit enter.
4. Now type "./gfree -f" + enter to run gfree again. It will disable wp on the emmc and remove the brq filter in the kernel. (as well as make another backup, which you can delete if you wish)
5. Now run the "dd if=/where/your/part7backup-numbers.bin of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p7" and it should show the output:
xxxx bytes in
xxxxbytes out
xxxxxxxxxx copied in blah blah blah
6. Run "sync" and then reboot. (I didn't do this and it worked fine but it won't hurt either. )

Yes, I did use gfree. I found that thread before posting but when I originally rooted, I did not use the method in that thread. I used the method in the CyanogenMod Wiki so I don't have the part7backup file. The thread you linked too specifically says (in big red text) that "Gfree writes a backup of the file that it patches named Part7backup-numbers.bin on your sdcard. I suggest putting this file in a safe place as it is the only way to revert if you need to." After seeing that, I didn't think that was the way to go.
Are you saying that I only need to do the second set of steps (where it starts with "If you have the engineering hboot 0.85.2007 installed...")?

Not sure...sorry

You could try the part of the engineering bootloader. Wortha shot.
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how can i downgrade 2.3.4 to 2.2.1

I want to root my phone but im running on 2.3.4? do i need to downgrade to root if so how
PLEASE HELP

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
Go there to downgrade.
If the links don't work search. If no one flames you for asking this question it will be a miracle. Good luck with the downgrade. Remember - copy/paste is your friend.

thanks for quick reply
but i can skip all those step straight to downgrade right?
also im trying to do Manual Downgrade.. i put the PD15IMG.zip rom to sdcard
but where do i put > adb reboot bootloader ?

The steps are laid out for each device. Skip nothing. adb reboot bootloader is a command given to adb. You will need to install adb and use it to run a program (fr3vo?) that uses an exploit to gain temp root. Then copy/paste commands to fool your phone into thinking its bootloader and firmware are older than 2.2.1. Once that is done you can flash the froyo PD15IMG.zip. Don't do this until you understand a little more. You may brick your phone otherwise.
Read the guide. Look up anything that doesn't make sense. Then read the guide again.

im at the downgrade step now
where can i get 2.2.1 firmware?
and how can my phone get bricked again?

when i go to backup with titanium backup,
it says no root access and i followed every step from beginning successfully
what is wrong?

probably because u are temp rooted?
Are u on 2.34 still or 2.2.1?
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2.3.4 is runing

downgrader said:
2.3.4 is runing
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.....you need 2.2.1. I literally answered 3 threads asking where to get 2.2.1 or 2.3.4. Look around in the general section, maybe on page 2, titled "All PD15IMG.zip in one place" or something...:hint:
Sent from my Sense 3.6 Glacier using XDA Premium.

finally rooted but i didnt backup so basically i have to add everything all over

wait its not rooted yet!! i used superoneclick, i have the superuser and when i open set cpu it get me black screen.. its not letting me gain root access, how do i change that?

You succeded rooting with superoneclick?
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it was but when i restarted the phone there was not superuser??
so i tried visionary method from
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDFMR4UUdt0
i reboot to bootloader and S-ON and i still have superuser?????
i tried the whole day doing this
someone please help
what tutorial should i follow??

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
Sent from my Sense 3.6 Glacier using XDA Premium.

using that tuturial, now when i restart s-OFF
but it still says not gaining root access
do i need to do the [Optional] Steps to flash engineering bootloader?
if so where can i get the the file in megaupload link?

You achieved S-OFF. It ISN'T root. It's REQUIRED FOR ROOT, but it doesn't make your phone rooted.
Now root, flash the recovery of your choice (CWM/4EXT) and flash any custom ROM you want. The guide has all that laid out.
And please, stop asking questions that have been answered a zillion times. Use your eyes to READ. And if you think you don't understand something - READ AGAIN, until you do.

Run visionary again and perm root

estallings15 Run visionary again and perm root
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THANK YOU EVERYONE WHO HELPED and for those who started giving attitude not too mention any nameJack_R1 im a total newbie!! so i did not now what i was doing but i finally got it to work
so THANKS AGAIN FOR THE HELP GUYS

Being a total newbie doesn't give you any extra rights beyond any other member on this board. Everyone was noob once. Not everyone came and opened threads on any basic question he/she had, some actually tried searching before.
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received permission denied error when changing version number
Hi,
I followed the steps in the below link to downgrade my Mytouch4g phone and i have been stuck on step 2 of changing version number to allow downgrade
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
I keep getting a permission denied error and i have been at this for the past two days.
Please any help will be really appreciated.
Thanks
> adb push misc_version /data/local/tmp/misc_version
> adb push flashgc /data/local/tmp/flashgc
> adb shell chmod 777 /data/local/tmp/*
> adb shell
# cd /data/local/tmp
# ./misc_version -s 1.00.000.0
permission denied