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I have read so many complaints and rants and raves. But all in all have seen most of them fixed with roms and kernels. This is a pretty pointless post but I just wanted to see one with people that are happy with their evos. I got mine at bb on launch day and still rocking it.
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Happy? I just proposed to my Evo.
Although nothing will beat my first phone (Sanyo VM4500)...the EVO is the 2nd best phone I have owned
++ I got mine on day one. Just did OTA updates and turn off all radios until I need them. I can go 3 days before a recharge with moderate surfing, texting, and phone usage. I read XDA forums mostly to understand how the phone works and how to avoid problems, but I think the stock EVO used sensibly, just plain rocks.
I'm not one of those who walks down the street with my phone in my face, nor do i walk through the mall with it glued to my ear, nor do i care about email push. I can understand how battery life is an issue for some, but for a dinosaur like me, it's the best Smartphone I've ever used. In fact, when you think about it, it's actually more powerful and capable than the Win 98 computers we were using just 10 years ago!
Android is a great os if:
You are a min / maxer and can take things into your own hand with root and custom roms.
The issue comes when you are not willing to do the above but still expect certain things out of the box.
The average mindless cow with little clue will do just fine with any os.
Aridon said:
Android is a great os if:
You are a min / maxer and can take things into your own hand with root and custom roms.
The issue comes when you are not willing to do the above but still expect certain things out of the box.
The average mindless cow with little clue will do just fine with any os.
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Mindless cows are entitled to buy these phones. They are not specifically for hackers only.
GaryJ51 said:
Mindless cows are entitled to buy these phones. They are not specifically for hackers only.
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I didn't say otherwise.
GaryJ51 said:
Mindless cows are entitled to buy these phones. They are not specifically for hackers only.
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There should be an IQ test before buying a phone.
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There should be an IQ test before buying a phone.
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There are some people....
I agree that unfortunately this device does not come out of the box set up well for the average "phone" user. Getting the most out of the EVO or Android in general is not for the faint of heart or impatient (or stupid) people.
That said, I too am almost ready to propose to this phone. Two more paychecks and I can afford the diamond crusted engagement case I have on lay-away (that was a joke..)
I would say best phone ever but to be honest I don't think of the evo as a phone, at all. It is truly a pocket sized computer that comes with a phone and is sold by a phone company. It's nothing short of revolutionary.
I got mine launch day from Best Buy too, been loving it, no root or nothing and no problems.
If you use the evo stock, you don't have problems, just battery, but if you root the phone, the problems start!
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I got mine from launch day, been loving this phone already. I've rooted and don't see much problem at all. I think if you know what to do after rooting then most problem.can ne resolve easily.
I've tested so many rom and still can't find much problem at all.
This indeed the best phone i've own.
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I'm still using stock from the day I bought it, the 2nd week it came out with all the OTA updates. No root, yet! I get 14 - 18 hours per charge with pretty heavy usage. People just need to read and tweak.
I love my Evo and my girlfriend loves it when I bring it to bed with us.
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Happy? I just proposed to my Evo.
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Just? Dude, we've been happily married since launch
I just started a similar thread before reading your thread.
I'm rooted, running baked snacks 9.6 (the latest was slow) with the netarchy-toastmod FPS fix and overclocked with setcpu. I leave gps, wifi, and 4g on continuously just because I can (I rarely get 4g reception in San Marcos TX). Last night I didn't even charge the phone and I still had 50% battery life when I woke up. I get 55 frames per second consistently (stdv 5-6), and 5-point multitouch (I can play 5-note chords on piano app). It is blazingly smooth and fast. I spent hours downloading apps... probably have like 70 by now and it's still incredibly fast.
I love how I can just go to Google Nav and say my location and it understands me, and loads the destination onto the gps. In fact many apps I can just talk right into the phone and it just translates it.
I completely customized the home screen. It's pretty much my dream phone post XDA help. I have yet to find a single flaw. And it was a lot of fun learning how to root, flash roms, install kernels, and customize. It's like building your own PC and tweaking it to perfection. But then again I like projects and customization so the android community and xda community is definitely the place for me. The developers here are so awesome.
The difference between the EVO out of the box and the EVO in my hands is so large it may as well be called a different phone and it's all thanks to open source, sharing community.
I guess it's obvious I've become an EVO junkie by now. Iphone's are smooth out of the box, but so boring. What's to play with?
I compare the iphone to an xbox360 and an EVO to a PC computer. The former works out of the box (mostly) but you are limited to a closed system. The PC can be endlessly tweaked and customized.
Anyway, cheers!
The Evo is a great phone, and a great development tool.
I have had mine sine i/o, and my network is big red. It's created quite a powerful duo for me. No 4g, but I don't really care about that. I don't even think it's in my area, but I'm not even about to map check it.
This phone has allowed me to get back into android programming etc without hassles, and I've been doing more and more things every day. I look forward to being able to release roms, themes, etc as well, once I get the hiccups polished out
As for the Evo, really, if it wern't for the XDA community, I don't think it would get as much play. I know I would have ditched the phone has it been a case of the Droid X, etc. It came down to the wire, and the Droid X was just days away. I made the choice to stick w/ the Evo, and stay far away from the Milestone boot loader.
I have the Evo to thank for a renewed interest in mobile technology and programming that I have not had, since the Touch Pro 1 days.
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I have had mine sine i/o, and my network is big red. It's created quite a powerful duo for me. No 4g, but I don't really care about that. I don't even think it's in my area, but I'm not even about to map check it.
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What did it take to change the MEID to make it work? I have a DroidX and hate it, I figure I can get a cheap Vz phone and port the MEID if I can find the tools.
Any way, good choice to stick with the Evo, I keep hoping to get one but Sprint sucks where I am at.
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What did it take to change the MEID to make it work? I have a DroidX and hate it, I figure I can get a cheap Vz phone and port the MEID if I can find the tools.
Any way, good choice to stick with the Evo, I keep hoping to get one but Sprint sucks where I am at.
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I didn't go that route.
You can still manage to make things happen if you bash your head against a wall long enough, and talk to a million different people.
But don't forget. You get no insurance, no support, no anything. They provide the service to you, that's it. Provisioning works with *228, no hassles, but the initial work has to be done by you. Pre-programming, setting up the intricate details and whatnots.
Side note: Why do you hate the Droid X?
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I didn't go that route.
You can still manage to make things happen if you bash your head against a wall long enough, and talk to a million different people.
But don't forget. You get no insurance, no support, no anything. They provide the service to you, that's it. Provisioning works with *228, no hassles, but the initial work has to be done by you. Pre-programming, setting up the intricate details and whatnots.
Side note: Why do you hate the Droid X?
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If Vz won't accept Sprint phones then how did you get it to work?
And sorry I didn't see until recently that MEID thing was illegal, I actually cam back to delete it but I guess I am too late...
Physical buttons are my #1 peeve I despise the ones on the front and I constantly hit the camera button on the side.
I should not EVER have to hear a button click to press and the pressure it takes to push them could be measured foot pounds plus I have big fingers and always hit 2 at a time.
- There are no words to explain how much I hate physical keys, it takes all caps and vulgarity, you get the idea.
Also coming from an iPhone with great asian support built in, including hand writing, this has none and even on the market the apps to replace it suck (I am being generous here.) I used it daily on my iPhone.
No front camera.
When I turn on Wi-Fi my bars drop in half.
Motoblur ... yuck
So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
Props on signing off without a list of dumb reasons on why you are returning it. You feel like you don't need it right now and there's nothing wrong with that. Good luck with your new phone.
me want but me no really need....
man i was itching to buy this phone. ive been holding back my compulsion to buy this phone but its geting harder and harder.
just got to keep teling myself that its not a need but a want. got to stop trolling this atrix forum before i nd up buying it
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got to stop trolling this atrix forum before i nd up buying it
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I'm gonna end up doing the same... I want an Atrix bad, but I am curious when a true 4G (LTE) android phone comes out. May have to wait to jump until then.
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So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
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I just got back from returning mine. I felt the same way I'll hold out on my upgrade until something else comes out. My unlocked vibrant is getting 4x faster upload speed than the atrix. Now thats unacceptable even if att is the reason why it's capped.
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I just got back from returning mine. I felt the same way I'll hold out on my upgrade until something else comes out. My unlocked vibrant is getting 4x faster upload speed than the atrix. Now thats unacceptable even if att is the reason why it's capped.
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Sailing in the same boat, leaning towards selling/returning
I'm probably returning mine within the next few days. It's a great phone but I'm just not feeling it. A lot of the apps that I use often are just more mature and have more features on iOS. It doesn't help that the bootloader is locked and I won't get to enjoy the Cyanogen ROM's I liked so much when I was using the Nexus One. Probably the final straw is also that I am not in a market that has the enhanced backhaul completed yet so my speeds are just as fast on my iPhone 4, which also natively supports HSUPA.
I'll be looking for another Android device as it gets closer to summer.
I added a line and purchased the Atrix at 199 for it..If I decided to return it, and use my captivate on that line, would that upgrade just stay on that line until i use it?
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I added a line and purchased the Atrix at 199 for it..If I decided to return it, and use my captivate on that line, would that upgrade just stay on that line until i use it?
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Yes. If you return within 30 days you get the upgrade back on that line.
it's great I'd you want to try ever phone and you can just keep switching over and over within a month.
You might have to pay a little for restocking or something (and the phone but that can be made up with return)
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So.. yea I think ill be returning the Atrix tomorrow. The phone is amazing: great screen, great battery life, amazingly fast, but I just don't think it is really necessary to have right now.
I wasn't planning on using the webtop application so that whole idea was out; the phone is fast but when compares to my Nexus 1 and Captivate, only loads pages 1-3 seconds faster than the two.
I'm planning on just hollding onto my upgrade until something else comes out or they lower the price of fhe laptop dock or make it better.
Anyone else with the same feelings?
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I was thinking about returning not because I did not need it but because of the random reboots. But I got that fixed today by calling AT&T and have them fix my account. I have the captivate but this phone is beast, I no longer have to worry about widgets taken too much memory, application running that needs to be close, and phone not performing because of too many things running.
Now I will take a lock phone that can run all my apps with no issues then a phone I can customized but still having issues with performance and memory. So at this moment this is definitely a keeper until something better (which I think won't happen until the christmas holiday). Let's be real the next bing thing on the horizon is the SGS II, it is likely not coming to AT&T so we are going to end up paying big bucks for AT&T 3G compatible version imported to the US.
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Let's be real the next bing thing on the horizon is the SGS II, it is likely not coming to AT&T so we are going to end up paying big bucks for AT&T 3G compatible version imported to the US.
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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Read again or call your resailers, there will be two version one with 850/1900 that will come after the Euro one. I don't think AT&T will be carrying it. I thought the same thing at first but I believe the specs from Samsung are misleading. Let's wait and see but I will not hold my breath.
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A bit off-topic. Care to back up your guess? All the Galaxy S2 specs I've read so far is covered by AT&T: 850/900/1900/2100
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Yea; why would they not release it here? It sold tons here in the US and although it might not go to every carrier, I'm confident it will go to ATT
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Yea; why would they not release it here? It sold tons here in the US and although it might not go to every carrier, I'm confident it will go to ATT
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I hope I am wrong because I would want it on AT&T too, but remember AT&T is getting the iPhone 5 sometime during the summer or fall. I won't bet my money on them getting another powerful phone that could potentially knock the iPhone 5. I think the Atrix was the answer to the iPhone 4 going to Verizon. It took AT&T a long time to get the Captivate in rotation.
The HD2 never made to AT&T although there was one with AT&T 3G
See I've had the Captivate and loved it and Android and was forced to get rid of it due to it's battery life. It would last like 6-7 hours not even joking. But this Atrix is a beast. I took it off the charger about 8:30 am and I have 30% remaining now and im a heavy user of everything. Streaming music using audio galaxy through my jawbone while connected to wi fi for hours at work. Battery life got me loving android again.
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I hope I am wrong because I would want it on AT&T too, but remember AT&T is getting the iPhone 5 sometime during the summer or fall. I won't bet my money on them getting another powerful phone that could potentially knock the iPhone 5. I think the Atrix was the answer to the iPhone 4 going to Verizon. It took AT&T a long time to get the Captivate in rotation.
The HD2 never made to AT&T although there was one with AT&T 3G
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AT&T drug their feet on the Captivate a little when they had exclusivity with Apple. Now that Verizon and possibly other carriers will have the iPhone 5, don't expect any such coddling of Apple by AT&T. The CEO of AT&T has been using a Captivate as his personal phone since 4Q10 and made sure the media knew he was toting it. He won't be helping Apple out at the expense of other devices any longer.
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AT&T drug their feet on the Captivate a little when they had exclusivity with Apple. Now that Verizon and possibly other carriers will have the iPhone 5, don't expect any such coddling of Apple by AT&T. The CEO of AT&T has been using a Captivate as his personal phone since 4Q10 and made sure the media knew he was toting it. He won't be helping Apple out at the expense of other devices any longer.
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I'd really like to believe that, but...it seems pretty obvious (to me anyway) that the Inspire and Atrix were gimped as to not knock iPhone as at&t's flagship. There's just no other explanation. iPhone is still at&t's top-seller.
I had been itching to buy the Atrix for over 5 months (when it was known as the Tegra 2 Olympus) but now, with the locked bootloader and the complete uselessness of the front camera and the fact it won't get Ice Cream till December'11, I'm thinking dual-core won't officially matter till Google releases a Nexus with it.
Who wants to develop for dual-core anyway when 95% of the phones on the market are single-core? If only stupid moto left the bootloader unsigned, I could have relied on XDA to deliver Ice Cream when it arrives in May/June.
Sad.
A lot people on these threads are dogging the Atrix because of missing features, things not working etc. Damn, can we just enjoy the device. The phone just came out a week or two ago, give it a chance. I had one of the Google I/O Evo's when they came out last year and it was issues with that too. They released the Evo to general public and those too had some issues that consisted of SD card problems, capped fps, battery issues, screen tearing and a lot more. But over time and with updates, the issues that was at hand with the Evo, got fixed and now the Evo is one of the top of the line phones.
I can understand if you just don't like the Atrix but to have the phone a day or two and say oh I'm returning it because it has lag or some other stupid reason..is ridiculous. Most of the time you have lag, it's because of a rogue app or setting. And when talking about apps, one must also remember that this is one of the first if not the first Tegra 2 handset on the market. With that said a lot of apps may not be compatible with the the Atrix...just yet. I know I ran into this issue when I bought the Nexus S. There was a lot of apps in the Market that wasn't compatible with 2.3, one specifically the camera app Vignette. I actually emailed the dev behind the app and they emailed me a different version of the app that worked fine.
I haven't haven't had a iP4 since last year when I sold mine. But for the people coming from the iP4 to Android,specifically the Atrix and is whining about the bootloader being locked, isn't the iPhone locked down as well?
All I'm saying is I'm sure that there will be some updates coming out for the Atrix that will fix some of these issues that everybody is complaining about.
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A lot people on these threads are dogging the Atrix because of missing features, things not working etc. Damn, can we just enjoy the device. The phone just came out a week or two ago, give it a chance. I had one of the Google I/O Evo's when they came out last year and it was issues with that too. They released the Evo to general public and those too had some issues that consisted of SD card problems, capped fps, battery issues, screen tearing and a lot more. But over time and with updates, the issues that was at hand with the Evo, got fixed and now the Evo is one of the top of the line phones.
I can understand if you just don't like the Atrix but to have the phone a day or two and say oh I'm returning it because it has lag or some other stupid reason..is ridiculous. Most of the time you have lag, it's because of a rogue app or setting. And when talking about apps, one must also remember that this is one of the first if not the first Tegra 2 handset on the market. With that said a lot of apps may not be compatible with the the Atrix...just yet. I know I ran into this issue when I bought the Nexus S. There was a lot of apps in the Market that wasn't compatible with 2.3, one specifically the camera app Vignette. I actually emailed the dev behind the app and they emailed me a different version of the app that worked fine.
I haven't haven't had a iP4 since last year when I sold mine. But for the people coming from the iP4 to Android,specifically the Atrix and is whining about the bootloader being locked, isn't the iPhone locked down as well?
All I'm saying is I'm sure that there will be some updates coming out for the Atrix that will fix some of these issues that everybody is complaining about.
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I've been using the Iphones since 2008 and I think some of the issues that people that are coming from an Iphone are having is that it just works out of the box. I was use to a device just working and with the atrix there is a lot of setup time. The contacts are cumbersome and it pulls them from everywhere without giving you the options clearly to select where you want the contacts to come from. The android market is not as mature as the app store. If I get an app from the app store, I know it will work just fine with my phone, that's not always the case with android.
Despite all the hate people have for apple, their closed app store prevents a lot of things from happening. Their device works just right out of the box and a lot of end-user's prefer that and even some of us techies.
I work with PC's all day long and to be honest the last thing I want to do is work on anything computer related when I get home. When I got the atrix, it felt like I was working. It took some time to sort out all of the issues and I still have some that linger on, yet whenever I got an iphone it just worked. I plugged it in and it synced everything and it just worked. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the iphone is the best phone out there. I personally think iOS has grown stale and prefer the android notifications over apples, and let's not get into multitasking... I know android is better at that. The problem is that you have too much fragmentation and that doesn't sit well with most people.
Now you mentioned updates and that's another issue that android has... google doesn't update all the phones, it has to go through the manufacturer and carrier. That, in my opinion is a huge mistake, it causes too many delays and a lot of phones are never even updated. So, while some of the issues can be fixed with an update the question is, will they? The iphone crowd knows for them that it will because most bugs are dealt with through minor updates and then you get the major updates.
The android platform has a lot to offer, I just think google gave away too much control to the makers of these handsets. I think a lot of issues would be alleviated if google just took control back and just released the updates themselves.
I'm keeping the phone and so is my wife, she really loves the customization of it and the widgets. However, I understand where a lot of people are coming from, it's hard to justify spending money on a phone that just doesn't work out of the box.
As for the bootloader, yes apple has everything locked down. A jailbreak is all you need on the iphone. You don't need custom kernels because it's all optimized for apples hardware. You can find a ton of mods as well just by opening up cydia on your phone. The hacking community for the iphone is pretty active, which brings me to another point... I've been looking through the dev forums and most of what I see is dev bickering. I doubt we will see any solid development for the atrix when you have devs to busy trying to prove you can't do something and the others trying to argue with them about it. That's just a waste of time, drop the bullcrap and collaborate, you really never know what you may find.
I was very excited about the atrix, but the more I read those forums the more I knew this phone was doomed.
/rant off
I've been back and forth from switching from the Inspire over to the Atrix...Just curious if anyone in here has done that, and What (if any versus the Inspire) are the Pro's/Con's to Swapping devices....
I believe i'm still covered under AT&T's 30 day exchange deal, so lets hear it...What do you all think?
If the inspire had a BETTER, speaker phone, battery, I would have stayed with it.
The ringtones and music play so LOW it's pathetic! And battery life is not as good as the atrix, UNLESS you don't use the phone much. I don't care much about the hacks that suppose to fix somethings, it will never be as good as the atrix in those areas. Because of this I was inspired to go for the atrix
The atrix on the othe hand, has weak camera and its flash is weak too. I like that it's much smaller than the inspire.
The fellow I had the pleasure of speaking with at AT&T was pretty quick to tell me that I would be paying quite a lot for more for the Atrix than this Inspire...It sounds good, but is it truly worth swapping?
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...... how exactly did he come to that conclusion?
Good question....my guess was partially because I bought this and my wifes crackberry Torch for $79 bucks each through their lovely retention department...I figure I will call them in the morning
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I just exchanged my Inspire for an Atrix and it cost me $103... Not exactly a bank breaker.
If I Swap to the Atrix, I Seriously refuse to pay anything more...DOUBT I'll get away with it, but you'd figure a Like for Like exchange of some sorts...supposed to call my friends over @ Retention again this morning, so we'll see...
There its a lot of threads talking about this, even a comparison between 2 devices. Next please use search button
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zen kun said:
There its a lot of threads talking about this, even a comparison between 2 devices. Next please use search button
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Your opinion is duly noted - However If I wanted to use the search button to find a bunch of other responses and or posts that dont pretain to what I want to know, OR ask what I wanted to ask...I would have. Thanks for your input
My take is that the Inspire has a better display (not resolution but brightness and colors) but the Atrix has more to offer in the long run.
I also figured out how to get great battery life with the Atrix. Your mileage may vary, but I use Exchange via Hotmail for my sync needs and changing it from push to 15 min intervals has extended my battery life to more than a day. With the Inspire, I was never able to make it through an entire day without charging.
The Atrix also has a great speaker and plays Angry Birds with zero lag.
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Your opinion is duly noted - However If I wanted to use the search button to find a bunch of other responses and or posts that dont pretain to what I want to know, OR ask what I wanted to ask...I would have. Thanks for your input
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really?
you are aseking about cons and pro's nothing else.there is a lot of them....
for example
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1026056
and was in the first page when you create a brand new
Despite its MANY shortcomings, the Atrix still is the best phone to have today. Maybe the EVO 3D or SGS2 might steal this title, but it still stands strong.
A solid contender today is the Nexus S.
Frankly, my advice would be to get the Atrix, hold on to it till the end of the year, and get the next multi-core Nexus phone. It might also have a 3D screen (to encourage development of 3D apps), who knows?
But I gotta say, I found the lack of 720p HD recording on the Nexus S to be unforgivable. On the other hand, the Atrix can't play unmodified 720p mkv movie files, while the Nexus S can....
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Despite its MANY shortcomings, the Atrix still is the best phone to have today. Maybe the EVO 3D or SGS2 might steal this title, but it still stands strong.
A solid contender today is the Nexus S.
Frankly, my advice would be to get the Atrix, hold on to it till the end of the year, and get the next multi-core Nexus phone. It might also have a 3D screen (to encourage development of 3D apps), who knows?
But I gotta say, I found the lack of 720p HD recording on the Nexus S to be unforgivable. On the other hand, the Atrix can't play unmodified 720p mkv movie files, while the Nexus S can....
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God I hope not... I owned a 3DS for a grand total of 24 hours because some unfortunate people like myself can't look at a binary 3D screen without nearly painting the floor with what we had for our last meal... I'm ready for 3D to die... JUST DIE!!! Get out of my video games, off of my phone, and back into James Cameron's garage!
imho
forget the atrix an get a lg g2x! totally unlocked bl pure android getting gingerbread in june Hdmi mirroring great camera Ill let you find out the other benifits Goodluck on your choice!
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I've been back and forth from switching from the Inspire over to the Atrix...Just curious if anyone in here has done that, and What (if any versus the Inspire) are the Pro's/Con's to Swapping devices....
I believe i'm still covered under AT&T's 30 day exchange deal, so lets hear it...What do you all think?
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i see a new inspire vs atrix thread everyday on this board, you are just asking pros and cons and there are many threads already on the subject addressing the exact same question you are asking....honestly can people not make decisions for themselves anymore, just look at the specs and reviews and choose the one best for your needs. its not complicated....
Atrix is beyond the Inspire. Can't believe people think the Inspire is better. I think Moto should have waited to optimize its device for dual-core and launch it with GB...but whatever, it is still the best on the market right now. Atrix sits #1 on the charts according to pcworld
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Meh. Some people like to ask questions to the community instead of reading different threads. At least it's semi-on topic. Guess that shows how cynical I've become after 16 years of posting on internet forums.
Got it a few hours ago. On paper, the specs but don't seem like a huge upgrade, but when you actually use it, you can tell it is.
It's fast. No hiccups, lag, or anything. You may say, "my dinc doesn't have any lag or slowdown either," but when you mess with a dinc 2 you will see what I mean. Screen is gorgeous. Phone feels excellent. Speaker is less "tinny" than the original.
I still need to mess with a ton of other stuff, but if you have any questions, let me know.
I'm most concerned with if/when it gets rooted. And how many dev's it picks up. Looks like quite a few of them already went to the Thunderbolt. I'm not due for an upgrade until July 2012 anyway, so when that date comes, who knows what will be out, but I will probably go with whatever is already rooted, and has the most development.
I had one a few days ago, and honestly, the "faster" tihng is really overblown. A menu screen may pop up a microsecond faster, but it wasn;t any more useable or anything. And the glare on that screen could cut glass.
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I'm most concerned with if/when it gets rooted. And how many dev's it picks up. Looks like quite a few of them already went to the Thunderbolt. I'm not due for an upgrade until July 2012 anyway, so when that date comes, who knows what will be out, but I will probably go with whatever is already rooted, and has the most development.
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Definitely agree with this, wonder what will be hot in development next summer.
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Engadget just gave the Galaxy S II a 9/10. And they hate android. It looks really nice - if it comes out on Verizon, I will have to think really hard about saying no...
I don't know what my next phone will be. I can't upgrade until March but I know I want an LTE phone and front facing camera and the dinc 2 only has one of my wants.
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I got one this morning and I'm liking it. I needed a world phone so it was a no-brainer for me. I like the screen size as compared to my dinc1. It's a good compromise with having a bigger screen without being one of the 4.3" phones that I thought were too big.
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Engadget just gave the Galaxy S II a 9/10. And they hate android. It looks really nice - if it comes out on Verizon, I will have to think really hard about saying no...
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I'm comming from a fascinate unless they fix their updating process and the file system don't buy any samsung phone...
Yea my upgrade isn't up until December I tried to talk my talk today, but it didn't get me anywhere.
What Sense version is it? What kernel? Is it drm protected so it can do netflix? I noticed on the vzw website it has the same processor as the Thunderbolt. So don't know if it would be. Also noticed it doesn't have a trackball or optical joystick. Thats gonna suck.
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What Sense version is it? What kernel? Is it drm protected so it can do netflix? I noticed on the vzw website it has the same processor as the Thunderbolt. So don't know if it would be. Also noticed it doesn't have a trackball or optical joystick. Thats gonna suck.
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I read somewhere that it's Sense 2.0. The kernel is 2.6.35.9. Don't know about drm.
As for the trackball/optical, i'm glad it doesn't have it. I never used it on my dinc1.
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I read somewhere that it's Sense 2.0. The kernel is 2.6.35.9. Don't know about drm.
As for the trackball/optical, i'm glad it doesn't have it. I never used it on my dinc1.
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Sense is version 2.00.0000.339629
Guess I'll have to play with one to check out the glare thing. DI2 is just the size I was looking for, but no dual core and no LTE, made me actually consider waiting for the GS2..... or better.
I believe its sense 2.1 and I personally like the optical joystick as well.
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All questions answered here:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=5641&deviceCategoryId=1
Im playin with one now at verizon and neither it or the tbolt are a big enough upgrade over the dinc for me. Tbolt maybe, dinc 2, no way. Im runnin optimized z and my phone is way smoother. Inc2 screen only slightly bigger, ive got a z camera that is the same. Dinc2 is already outdated IMO.
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I'm most concerned with if/when it gets rooted. And how many dev's it picks up. Looks like quite a few of them already went to the Thunderbolt...
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That's a big concern for me. I just picked up the DInc2 yesterday....at retail price. Why? Both my wife and I are deaf and we live in what you would call a rather remote area, but at least have VZW tower nearby. A 4G/LTE phone is overkill when one lives nearly 2 hours to the first traffic light. So, on paper, as a 3G phone with video chat capability at a lower price then the LTE stuff, the DInc2 really fits the bill by giving me video chat so my wife and I can sign to each other when in different locations. That's a big plus.
BUT... as I scout all the normal forums I've used for my Droid 1, Droid X and Nook, the DInc2 looks like a real sleeper in terms of dev interest. This is my first HTC phone and even though the Motorola Droid has that %*&$#@ 'locked' bootloader, there's still a lot of options as well as the leaked restore files. I don't really want to root a phone until the point where there's some solid dev work as well as the ability to restore after screwing something up.
So, since like I mentioned, we're nearly 2 hours to the first traffic light and the nearest VZW store is just beyond that, I may bring it back on Tuesday when we're in the area and wait for the next suitable phone that has video chat capabilities. I've always used VZW's one-year contract and now that this option has bit the dust, I don't want to sign a two-year extension at the end of the year unless its for a phone that well-supported by devs AND has decent battery life.
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That's a big concern for me. I just picked up the DInc2 yesterday....at retail price. Why? Both my wife and I are deaf and we live in what you would call a rather remote area, but at least have VZW tower nearby. A 4G/LTE phone is overkill when one lives nearly 2 hours to the first traffic light. So, on paper, as a 3G phone with video chat capability at a lower price then the LTE stuff, the DInc2 really fits the bill by giving me video chat so my wife and I can sign to each other when in different locations. That's a big plus.
BUT... as I scout all the normal forums I've used for my Droid 1, Droid X and Nook, the DInc2 looks like a real sleeper in terms of dev interest. This is my first HTC phone and even though the Motorola Droid has that %*&$#@ 'locked' bootloader, there's still a lot of options as well as the leaked restore files. I don't really want to root a phone until the point where there's some solid dev work as well as the ability to restore after screwing something up.
So, since like I mentioned, we're nearly 2 hours to the first traffic light and the nearest VZW store is just beyond that, I may bring it back on Tuesday when we're in the area and wait for the next suitable phone that has video chat capabilities. I've always used VZW's one-year contract and now that this option has bit the dust, I don't want to sign a two-year extension at the end of the year unless its for a phone that well-supported by devs AND has decent battery life.
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It takes a while for the devs to ramp up on a phone. It was a couple of weeks or more before the original DI was cracked and then it took even more time to get ROMs up to speed. Every phone is different and it just takes time. The DI2 was just released YESTERDAY. Your expectations might be just a little high.
...just sayin'.
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It takes a while for the devs to ramp up on a phone. ...
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Yeah, I do understand that. At the same time, I've been seeing devs flock away from other phones as they get fascinated with latest 4G/LTE, tablet, dual-core, etc. So, in that respect, I'd guess the DInc2 would gotten more attention had it been released early Winter.
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It takes a while for the devs to ramp up on a phone. It was a couple of weeks or more before the original DI was cracked and then it took even more time to get ROMs up to speed. Every phone is different and it just takes time. The DI2 was just released YESTERDAY. Your expectations might be just a little high.
...just sayin'.
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Inc S (Same phone) was released months ago...just sayin
so I had an incdredible, got an iphone 4 (huge mistake), then got the thunderbolt. well im now back on the incredible and i gotta say that the inc is the fastest smoothest phone ive had so far. the thunderbolt felt laggy alot, even after i rooted it, no matter what rom i was on. i dont live in an area where 4g exists so that didnt matter. i also didnt like how big it was. im not even sure the inc 2 is as good as the inc 1. they decreased internal memory and increased the size of the screen... just seems a little weird that this phone seems to be better than the newer technology..
Agree with you!
I have been in Verizon, Sprint, and US Cellular in the past few days checking all the phones out, and I can't find anything that is as quick and works as well as the Incredible. I would love to upgrade, but to me there is nothing to UPgrade to. The original Incredible is just an awesome phone.
That's weird. I'd think the added 256mb of RAM would make it faster.
I wonder if it's a matter of the Incredible having been out far longer and devs having more time to figure out how to optimize things for it?
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I have been in Verizon, Sprint, and US Cellular in the past few days checking all the phones out, and I can't find anything that is as quick and works as well as the Incredible. I would love to upgrade, but to me there is nothing to UPgrade to. The original Incredible is just an awesome phone.
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Im glad tho cuz for once I get to use, no wait ENJOY a phone for the full 2yrs of my contract without trying to scheme up a way to upgrade early.
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it has better tech because it's older, and more time was put into it. the thunderbolt has crappy tech, sense 2.1. a good example, i was in the store the other day looking for a belt holster, i did find it, but, was comparing specs on the droid charge to the droid x, the droid x has a faster proc, i asked why the charge costed more since it has lower tech then the x. the rep said "well, this is newer, has dual core (WRONG) has a bigger screen (yeah, because i really need a 4.3 inch screen when 3.7 is serving me fine, ffs i use a 20" HDTV i got for 90 bucks on clearence, no it's not "1080p led, 120hz" crap, but it works.
Shoot Kiboe find me a HDTV deal like that! My husband would love you. LOL!
Yeah I got the Incredible the first day it was out. This phone works pretty good with the Synergy rom.
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I have been looking around for a phone to tempt me away from the Incredible and nothing has even come close. What I find funny is the Verizon stores I've gone to are now locking the phones so you can't get into the settings and see what its specs are. This is truly the first phone that has lived up to its name.
C4H1LL why did you get rid of the iphone 4 out of curiosity? I'm track to buy the new one for verizon when it comes out.
I agree the Incredible is Incredible!!! I will cry when it brakes, running MIUI.US with Incredikernel. The Incredible 2 and the Thunderbolt are basically the same except Incredible2 is global and no LTE. All three have 1gig single core cpu's, but the overclock potential for the 2 and thunder would kill the original. I want a unlocked bootloader dual core HTC.
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C4H1LL why did you get rid of the iphone 4 out of curiosity? I'm track to buy the new one for verizon when it comes out.
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Iphone 4 has been out on Verizon since February. The Iphone 5 is rumored for September release. Before you buy something you will regret, take the incredible(1or2) and load MIUI.US can make it look like a Iphone.
http://forums.miui.us/showthread.php?228-ROM-MIUI-1.6.17.1-Droid-Incredible-Updated-at-2-15pm-6-18
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That is a really really good theme... I might try it lol thanks.
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Iphone 4 has been out on Verizon since February. The Iphone 5 is rumored for September release. Before you buy something you will regret, take the incredible(1or2) and load MIUI.US can make it look like a Iphone.
http://forums.miui.us/showthread.php?228-ROM-MIUI-1.6.17.1-Droid-Incredible-Updated-at-2-15pm-6-18
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http://forums.miui.us/showthread.ph...xed-(I-hope)-Ultimate-iPhone-theme-6.0Beta4.1
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MIUI is a GREAT ROM, even if you're NOT trying to make your phone look like an Iphone. (I'm definitely not.)
Still have my dinc.. still an awesome phone. But my inspire has me hooked. Plus att coverage is way better in my area. ( sticks) . At this point in the game its really a battle of specs. To me its all becoming overkill if you think bout it.. while having the latest and greatest is nice. Staying one generation behind is always better. Why? Because of optimization..lol bugs worked out.
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Still have my dinc.. still an awesome phone. But my inspire has me hooked. Plus att coverage is way better in my area. ( sticks) . At this point in the game its really a battle of specs. To me its all becoming overkill if you think bout it.. while having the latest and greatest is nice. Staying one generation behind is always better. Why? Because of optimization..lol bugs worked out.
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ha yea. For these android phones that is true, plus you get a huge discount is price.
You couldn't pay me to leave my Tbolt to go back to my dInc. Or the dInc2. A number of the early custom ROMs where pretty sorry, despite the best efforts of many devs. That mainly has to do with some pretty sorry base leaks from the Big Red Checkmark. I'm currently running a 3D ROM (not exactly easy on graphics) and it lags NONE at all. Furthermore, having 25 to 45 Mbps in your pocket is not something you ever want to give up.
Concerning the dInc2, that's a far better device than the original. The LCD is FAR brighter than the AMOLED, the CPU is more muscular, it's got more memory, it's got a screen large enough to reasonably display a keyboard, a decent front-facing camera, it's even more pleasant to the hand to hold, and it's actually difficult to kill the battery inside a day. If 4G wasn't a factor, I'd have a dInc2. 4G being a factor, the Tbolt is an industrial-strength device capable of summoning speeds as high as 45Mbps, leaving you effectively waiting for nothing. Really.... it downloads songs faster than you can open the music player and play them. Tethered or on the device, streaming HD quality video is NOT a big deal. I've downloaded 310MB ROMs in under 3 minutes.
not everyone is in a 4g market!!!!!!
if you have the money, go with the t-bolt, if not, just stick with the dinc until you do.
Lol had my Inc since early February. I'm happy with it and the specs aren't too low. I do have a bone to pick with HTC on their cruddy bluetooth system. It is pretty much my dependent internet connection when I'm at home. I can't get wireless out here and the closest thing we can get is dial up (not going back). I'm getting closer to go back to CM7 and get better bluetooth, but the camera sucks on it and I won't be able to use the tv out cable. While I have my issues with it, I'm happy I got it. I got it on sale for 50 bucks at Hhgregg, which in my opinion is a bargain. I don't think 4G will take off...at least not drastically for quite a while as its still being developed in many parts of the US. Maybe by the time my contract is up, I'll upgrade to a different Droid or a different non-HTC sense and Galaxy S device. Maybe get something with HDMI as well as more phones are coming with that lol. Plus with the unlimited data I'm grandfathered in and 4G data in the future, I will no longer have to go out for wifi But I'll be with my Incredible Droid until the contract is up. I might hold onto it and see if there's other purposes for it. I say if you can find this phone dirt cheap like Amazon had for .01 cent with a contract, not really into 4G yet, and could care less about a front facing camera then this phone is for you.
There are tech sites (tested.com) for example who talk about how this device is outdated and stuff.
It really isn't... it is a great phone and hasn't failed me yet. I just added on a bulky battery to mine though so it lasts over a day if I can't find a plug. The only con I had before was battery life.
I am probably going to end up dropping it one day and breaking it beyond repair and that is gonna force me to upgrade, because for what I use it for I don't see myself needing anything else yet.
I already replaced the digitizer twice lol... last time was just because it had a lot of scratches though
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There are tech sites (tested.com) for example who talk about how this device is outdated and stuff.
It really isn't... it is a great phone and hasn't failed me yet. I just added on a bulky battery to mine though so it lasts over a day if I can't find a plug. The only con I had before was battery life.
I am probably going to end up dropping it one day and breaking it beyond repair and that is gonna force me to upgrade, because for what I use it for I don't see myself needing anything else yet.
I already replaced the digitizer twice lol... last time was just because it had a lot of scratches though
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Are you rooted? There's probably a bunch of things you can do to help your battery life out, I'm on a 1900mAh battery that still fits in the stock case and I get over a day's use. I use a BUNCH of GPS and data too (according to VZW I used 20GB last month)
But yea the INC is growing a little old but there's nothing I have to complain about it, and no phone is a good enough upgrade for me to go for it.
One day though.. we will part our ways. Just got a new case for mine so I'm in love with it all over again..now spending hours on these forums. oh god. I need to go to sleep.