I'm running GB .596 with Liberty GB 0.9 and I've noticed since I upgraded to GB that apps will close when they are running in the background. I use QuickDesk with Go Launcher Ex and every so often Go Launcher will close and reload. I've also noticed the email app closes and will not retrieve 'push' email via ActiveSync.
I don't have any task killers, custom sysctl settings, and the Android free mem setting is on 25 (recommended).
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I would like to run certain apps, like e.g. skype in the background all the time.
However the HD2 closes all apps in the background after a certain time.
I also tried duttys taskmanager, but still all apps in the background are being closed after some time automatically.
Is there any way to keep all apps in the background running, until you close them manually?
Thanks!
Apps aren't closed after a certain time, they are closed by Windows OOM - Out of Memory Handler, when your system is low on memory, or when you reach the system's limit of 32 running processes. AFAIK, you cannot configure OOM, so what you can do is close other applications. Otherwise it should have been taken care of by the application developers - OOM only closes apps with windows, so they need to write the program in a way that there's a windowless background process.
Thanks for the explanation...
But I checked and I have "only" 28 processes running.
When just opening the calculator and have it running in the background, it is closed automatically after some minutes.
So the limit of too many processes cannot be reached by that.
And also there is plenty of free memory...
I've never had any applications closed automatically...
I have the same problem.
I want to run flexmail always in the background, but it closes automatically. Probably because of memory problems. Is there a way that it gests automatically re-opened by the system by some kind of tweaking?
How much program memory do you have left?
On my device, apps get closed automatically, when about 53% of program memory is used. That is much too early I think.
On my Touch HD I had always about 65% in use.
Is there any way to set in the registry, at which threshold of memoty-usage programs get closed?
Ok, I think I got it now...
It is not caused by a 3rd party software.
The ROM has a limit of 27 processes that can run at the same time.
If you have e.g. 25 processes running and then open 2 apps running in the background, then when opening the third app closes one of the other apps in background, so that the limit of 27 processes is applied.
It is not a memory issue! Just an issue of the limit of 27 processes running at the same time!
Since I have quite some services running in the background, like battery indicator, button mapping, etc. this can be quickly an issue!
So the big question is now:
Can we rise this limit of 27 processes running simultaniously somehow, maybe with a registry tweak or anything?
My I9000 is very laggy. Not always, just most of the time.
Closing com.sec.android.app.samsungapps.una & Daily Briefings with TasKiller gets me back around 30 MB, available memory now back around 60MB & phone now useable.
I've found a couple of samsung apps in system/app, SamsungWidget_WeatherClock.apk is 8.9MB, I think that's the culprit. How do I stop it running? Do I just delete it? (I'd probably copy it to the SD card & backup just in case.)
Are there any others i should get rid of/prevent from starting?
wavemechanic said:
My I9000 is very laggy. Not always, just most of the time.
Closing com.sec.android.app.samsungapps.una & Daily Briefings with TasKiller gets me back around 30 MB, available memory now back around 60MB & phone now useable.
I've found a couple of samsung apps in system/app, SamsungWidget_WeatherClock.apk is 8.9MB, I think that's the culprit. How do I stop it running? Do I just delete it? (I'd probably copy it to the SD card & backup just in case.)
Are there any others i should get rid of/prevent from starting?
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I use LauncherPro so I don't (can't) use any Samsung Widgets. However, I was using touchwiz for a while, I didn't have many memory issues with it. If the widget is running you can just click and hold the widget and move it to the trash, you don't need to back it up (it'll still be installed). There are many other things running that the Samsung TaskKiller doesn't pick up, that said, Android from what I read and see myself doesn't need much more than 30-50mb free at any time (though when I'm going to start surfing and doing a lot of activity I do try to free up around 150mb, just incase) and if you happen to push the boundary it'll free up memory for you.
If you want to be able to kill more tasks get ATK (advanced task killer).
After what ive read android dont page memory the way computers do, when it runs out of working memory. Reason is lack of memory i guess. But with several gigabytes of memory in internal storage, whats the problem?
With winmo I had to share working memory with installed software (if not installing on sd).
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With winmo I had to share working memory with installed software (if not installing on sd).
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No lah. Ram & rom, different.
So i download this new app called process manager. It is a pretty good app that has a feature that shows you what starts up and how much memory it takes up... This works for both apps and services....
I strictly use Launcherpro for my launcher but was surprised to find that my phone was starting up and loading Dell Stage, and all the widgets. The stage took about 5 megs and each widget took an additional 2-3 megs. I used titanium backup to remove these things because I do not use them.
Further analyzing the data of what memory was being used, I went from 140 megs free to 200. I either removed or froze items that I decided weren't really necessary.
I have noticed battery time improvements and the phone is leaner and meaner now. I end up opening up this app now ever few days and check to see what is going on...
so if you are not using apps or background apps, its best to probably remove them.. just be careful!
What apps you running there?
I'm running 351 and I have Stage Home running, with the Music and Pictures widgets. I uninstalled the other widgets(Movies, Social, Books) and I have 232MB free, and my Dell runs lightning fast.
I like to keep my Streak light and fast.
Map and pandora always starts themselves automatically and eat 40mb worth of memory.
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use Root Explorer and delete all the .apks and will solve most of your problems. I installed process app you mentioned and had hardly anything like you mentioned loaded. I always delete them about two minutes after installing any rooted ROM.
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So i download this new app called process manager. It is a pretty good app that has a feature that shows you what starts up and how much memory it takes up... This works for both apps and services....
I strictly use Launcherpro for my launcher but was surprised to find that my phone was starting up and loading Dell Stage, and all the widgets. The stage took about 5 megs and each widget took an additional 2-3 megs. I used titanium backup to remove these things because I do not use them.
Further analyzing the data of what memory was being used, I went from 140 megs free to 200. I either removed or froze items that I decided weren't really necessary.
I have noticed battery time improvements and the phone is leaner and meaner now. I end up opening up this app now ever few days and check to see what is going on...
so if you are not using apps or background apps, its best to probably remove them.. just be careful!
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Ok youve sold me , I am going to root. Which ites did you remove and which did you decide to freeze? Your list may be helpful.
You can probly use task killer as well.
but use titanium backup to delete or freeze apps
I froze lota, log manager. Log storage
Removed all att crap
Removed uneccessary live wallpapers
Removed swype
Removed anything I didn't use that was an app.
Take a look and see what is loading on your streak before you remove items
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When I have been using an app for more than a few minutes, when I exit it the screen goes black for 30 seconds. I thought it might have been ADW Launcher but it is doing it with the stock launcher as well. Has anyone else had this problem?
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I notice this too using any launcher. try super task killer. I know devs and others say task killers are bad, but form my experience they work beautifully, as android just loads ALL apps it can into memory and then take sup cpu cycles clearing ram, loading apps and such. Just set a smany apps to "no start on boot up" and run taks killer after boot. should be fine. if you get chopiness run task killer and all should be cleared up. Be aware as anderoid will try to reload some apps, so apps wont stay closed all the time, but it improves performance, even if it reloads them.
So base don my experience i would try super task killer form the market. also try the galaxy task rom (backup data saved in apps first) (wiping data in clockwork mod does not erase sdcard data folder, so it will save your data there if apps use that folder)
Hope this helps!
I have recently debloated a bit my phone (some freezes with titanium and hibernation with greenify) which led me to only 1.4GB of used Ram but the phone keeps closing the background applications even with a lot of ram left.
It seems like it limits the number of apps it can keep opened, for example, if I run heavy games it keeps only 4~5 games and the ram is around 2.3GB, which may look ok, but opening light applications, even UNDER 2GB of used ram, it starts closing apps after 5 or 6 opened apps. That makes no sense.
What could be done to fix this? Does this happen to you too?
I'm running stock rom and v9 ultimate kernel (exynos) and that option under developer options is set to standard.
Thanks.