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I have an HTC hero and I am having problems with the bottom third of the screen. I cannot "click and hold" in order to drag a program icon, for instance. Instead it just registers the click, and not the hold! Very annoying.
I have MoDaCo custom rom 1.5 on it, but don't think this could be a software/firmware issue. I don't recall it being a problem before, so it appears it has developed a fault!
Nightmare. Anyone experienced anything similar and an easy way to fix it?
James
Hi,
I can't actually help you but i can tell you the first iphones would develop a similar problem with their touchscreen where sensitivity dropped off, especially near the edges. This turned out to be a coating wearing off.
This seems to be happening from time to time with capacitive screens.
If you are sure it's a hardware issue, i wouldn't hesitate to send it back.
Kr,
-Kevin
Have you tried re-starting the phone?
Yes, and it made no difference. But pulling the battery and restarting (I had to do this to get theserial number fot HTC support!) worked!!
Cheers
James
You could also download a "Draw" app to test all areas of the screen.
When I first had mine I had problems hitting the Backspace on the portrait keyboard, I tried a calibrate but I think its better now because my finger knows where to go.
I find my screen seems more responsive when the phone is in my hand, less so if lying on a table. Is this a quirk of a capacitve screen or more to do with the angle of attack?
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basill said:
I find my screen seems more responsive when the phone is in my hand, less so if lying on a table. Is this a quirk of a capacitve screen or more to do with the angle of attack?
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This. It doesn't seem even remotely responsive when I have it lying down flat on any surface, but as soon as I pick it up it works again.
basill said:
You could also download a "Draw" app to test all areas of the screen.
When I first had mine I had problems hitting the Backspace on the portrait keyboard, I tried a calibrate but I think its better now because my finger knows where to go.
I find my screen seems more responsive when the phone is in my hand, less so if lying on a table. Is this a quirk of a capacitve screen or more to do with the angle of attack?
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The metal bezel actually acts as a grounding point between the capacitive areas that don't have any adjacent space to get a good contact...
seshmaru said:
This. It doesn't seem even remotely responsive when I have it lying down flat on any surface, but as soon as I pick it up it works again.
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I have noticed the same as you guys
woobit said:
I have noticed the same as you guys
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You read all the posts in the thread aside from the one with the explanation? (it's just above your post)
I am so sorry, twatamasi
I am so sorry, twatamasi
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Ladies and gentlemen, it's Oscar Wilde!
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I am so sorry, twatamasi
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Some irony there.
The main need for the lock screen is in the following situation:
Phone is in your pocket (or bag), a hard key is accidentally pressed, the device wakes up. This by itself is not a problem, since without anything else happening the device will go back to sleep, but, if another hard key is pressed while the device is active (screen press can not happen while in pocket, since it's capacitive), the device can start do annoying things.
Now, if the proximity sensor can be designed to switch on when device wakes up, and put it back to sleep (immediately) if device is in pocket/bag, this will kill the need for a lock screen. This is totally possible and just awaits the programmer who wants to make our lives easier...
hm. try pocketShield?
it locks and unlocks your device by use of the light sensor.
Interesting. I will use it for now.
The problem with using a light sensor is that if you use the phone in the dark it won't unlock. Proximity sensor won't have this problem hence it's a better sensor for the task.
Apparently this will happen even without the help of the XDA community...
I've just sent the following email to PocketShield:
Hi,
I would like to know if you are working to utilize the HD2's proximity sensor for unlock (like you did for Omnia). If so, when should we expect a version with this feature ?
Thank you very much.
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This is their answer:
That’s the idea, but can’t confirm that yet because we are not sure if hooking into the proximity sensor will be possible. Hope yes, as in Omnia2. Just received our new HD2 today and will start to dive into it next week.
Best Regards,
Jim
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so has anyone tested this for the hd2?
http://www.pocketshield.net/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpxY9t34TTI
Noam23 said:
The problem with using a light sensor is that if you use the phone in the dark it won't unlock. Proximity sensor won't have this problem hence it's a better sensor for the task.
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Use TouchLockPro. It has both light and proximity sensor and it is free.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpxY9t34TTI
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Looks like the guy from the answering machine has found a new job
won't this increase battery drain dramaticly? i think it will becouse it will be constantly looking for light and using that proximity sensor..
Noam23 said:
The main need for the lock screen is in the following situation:
Phone is in your pocket (or bag), a hard key is accidentally pressed, the device wakes up. This by itself is not a problem, since without anything else happening the device will go back to sleep, but, if another hard key is pressed while the device is active (screen press can not happen while in pocket, since it's capacitive), the device can start do annoying things.
Now, if the proximity sensor can be designed to switch on when device wakes up, and put it back to sleep (immediately) if device is in pocket/bag, this will kill the need for a lock screen. This is totally possible and just awaits the programmer who wants to make our lives easier...
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You are wrong about one important detail though. The screen is very sensitive and can easily be pressed through the lining of your pocket, and even through fairly thick fabric like jeans.
it's a capacative screen...
capacative scree = no stylus/fingernail/penny/spoon
it wont be acvitating throught screen contact.
impossible. (unless you have rrrrrealy thin pants, and the current can pass throught them)
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it's a capacative screen...
capacative scree = no stylus/fingernail/penny/spoon
it wont be acvitating throught screen contact.
impossible. (unless you have rrrrrealy thin pants, and the current can pass throught them)
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hi, the pants didnt have to be that thin. i think the hd2 screens also vary a lot, in being more or less sensitive. another thing is that people are deifferent when it cames to electric fields. also sweating can affect the display. i startet programs and other touchscreen things already, when the device was in my pocket.
regards mad
jamieeeee said:
won't this increase battery drain dramaticly? i think it will becouse it will be constantly looking for light and using that proximity sensor..
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In the case of Pocketshield, it won't. Because all sensors only turn on during a short period of time (seconds). Once you unlock or turn off, sensors go to sleep. This is one of the reasons why "auto lock" is not possible, because that will indeed involve a permanent monitoring on the sensors.
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it's a capacative screen...
capacative scree = no stylus/fingernail/penny/spoon
it wont be acvitating throught screen contact.
impossible. (unless you have rrrrrealy thin pants, and the current can pass throught them)
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You don't know what you're talking about. I didn't say it was sensitive to pressure, but rather that direct contact between skin and the screen is not necessary. Holding my finger on one side of the fabric, and the other side of the fabric touching the screen, this is registered by the screen as a touch EVERY TIME. There are maybe materials that completely isolates the screen, for other materials it probably depends on how thick they are. For me it is certainly possible to influence the screen even through pretty thick cotton fabric (maybe other types of fabric too, I wear mostly cotton), leather, and even paper. Just to test it, I just did a slide to unlock my HD2 through a pile of papers (granted it wasn't a very thick pile, only six sheets of paper thick), and through my leather shoes (this was a little trickier, I had to to make sure that my foot made good contact with the leather at the point where I was sliding my phone across the shoe). i can interact with the screen through normal denim jeans fabric without any problem, and the pocket lining of trousers are usually quite thin, so accidental interaction with the screen seems almost unavoidable if the screen is unlocked in the pocket.
I have actually had some problems a couple of times when the slide to unlock had been deactivated on my HD2. I once took my phone out of my pocket and it was at the confirmation screen for factory reset, and I have actually had the phone hard reset on me once which I suspect may have been caused by the slide to unlock being deactivated. I would never knowingly put an unlocked phone in my pocket, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, but you're welcome to do as you please.
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You don't know what you're talking about. I didn't say it was sensitive to pressure, but rather that direct contact between skin and the screen is not necessary. Holding my finger on one side of the fabric, and the other side of the fabric touching the screen, this is registered by the screen as a touch EVERY TIME. There are maybe materials that completely isolates the screen, for other materials it probably depends on how thick they are. For me it is certainly possible to influence the screen even through pretty thick cotton fabric (maybe other types of fabric too, I wear mostly cotton), leather, and even paper. Just to test it, I just did a slide to unlock my HD2 through a pile of papers (granted it wasn't a very thick pile, only six sheets of paper thick), and through my leather shoes (this was a little trickier, I had to to make sure that my foot made good contact with the leather at the point where I was sliding my phone across the shoe). i can interact with the screen through normal denim jeans fabric without any problem, and the pocket lining of trousers are usually quite thin, so accidental interaction with the screen seems almost unavoidable if the screen is unlocked in the pocket.
I have actually had some problems a couple of times when the slide to unlock had been deactivated on my HD2. I once took my phone out of my pocket and it was at the confirmation screen for factory reset, and I have actually had the phone hard reset on me once which I suspect may have been caused by the slide to unlock being deactivated. I would never knowingly put an unlocked phone in my pocket, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, but you're welcome to do as you please.
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oh, i didn't know it was that sensitive, then, i can really see a need for an apps like this.
but, what about just a normal case? slip it in and out? i mean, i think that COULD solve your problem in a 'no thrills' sorta way... but it wouldnt be as exciting now would it?
madbird said:
hi, the pants didnt have to be that thin. i think the hd2 screens also vary a lot, in being more or less sensitive. another thing is that people are deifferent when it cames to electric fields. also sweating can affect the display. i startet programs and other touchscreen things already, when the device was in my pocket.
regards mad
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this of course is also true.
taking this into account, i would suggest everybody ground themselves. lol, no... just kidding. i don't even think that would help.
Hi all! Im in love with this community from day 1
its my 1st thread though seeking for help/advice/your superior knowledge
Thing is that i want to mount my phone in my car using a small magnet attached somewhere at the dashboard and stick my HD2s back cover which is metallic...
my question is: is it possible because of the nature of the magnet to cause problems in the phones operation?? like radio interference or something like this?
looking forward to your answers
i think a magnet may interfere with the touch screen. not positive on this but am sure i`v read somewhere about tiny magnets being in the tip of some capacitive screen stylus`s. a stronger magnet to hold a hd2 would surely result in some type of touch screen interference. but like i said am not a 100% certain.
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i think a magnet may interfere with the touch screen. not positive on this but am sure i`v read somewhere about tiny magnets being in the tip of some capacitive screen stylus`s. a stronger magnet to hold a hd2 would surely result in some type of touch screen interference. but like i said am not a 100% certain.
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magnetism will not affect a capacitive touch screen. It will however mess about with the compass!
A capacitive Touchscreen works like a capacitor, whichs field is "spread" over the surface of the screen. By tapping you will change the the resistance of the oscilating resonant circuit, which has a specific resistance (which is related to the dielectric medium, which is changed by your finger)
With this, the phone is able to locate your finger in X + Y axis to find out where you have tapped.
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magnetism will not affect a capacitive touch screen. It will however mess about with the compass!
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Yes, obviously it will but thats the least of my worries as it wont be permanently attached to the magnet and the times it will, i wont be needing the compass app.
so if thats the only problem i think im gonna give a try to this project...
A capacitive Touchscreen works like a capacitor, whichs field is "spread" over the surface of the screen. By tapping you will change the the resistance of the oscilating resonant circuit, which has a specific resistance (which is related to the dielectric medium, which is changed by your finger)
With this, the phone is able to locate your finger in X + Y axis to find out where you have tapped.
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Does this mean that a magnet at the back could interfere with the circuit of the screen? and if yes i guess is temporary right?
waiting for more thoughts/input on the subject
Maeffjus said:
A capacitive Touchscreen works like a capacitor, whichs field is "spread" over the surface of the screen. By tapping you will change the the resistance of the oscilating resonant circuit, which has a specific resistance (which is related to the dielectric medium, which is changed by your finger)
With this, the phone is able to locate your finger in X + Y axis to find out where you have tapped.
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WOW!!!! your talents are wasted on here my friend!! lol
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WOW!!!! your talents are wasted on here my friend!! lol
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this is school knowledge...
after some trial and error i found out that the back cover of HD2 although it looks metallic apparently its not coz it can't be attached to a magnet...
That would only mean that it is not made of an iron compound
Benz-Driver said:
this is school knowledge...
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not in my school my friend lol must say it wasnt the nicest, the teachers had a torrid time! lol i DO know how to use a bunsun burner, is that any help? lmao. Happy Christmas bud.
magnet
I think it is made from stailess steel.magnets do not work on S/S.
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magnetism will not affect a capacitive touch screen. It will however mess about with the compass!
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Is that true? I know old compasses relied on a magnetised needle to work, but I thought the compass in the HD2 got it's direction from the GPS and the accelerator software??? How would a magnet affect these?
Armes said:
Is that true? I know old compasses relied on a magnetised needle to work, but I thought the compass in the HD2 got it's direction from the GPS and the accelerator software??? How would a magnet affect these?
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no it's a dedicated compass hardware
Actually, even my notebook apparently hurts it! Looses calibration
yes several times when i opened the compass application arround various interferences it asked me to move it in the usual 8-like movement to calibrate itself..
what about the rest of the phone and memory and SD card wouldnt it affect the storage ? i clecned out my speakerphone with a very small magnet yesterday to get all the lil pieces stuck on it.
and after that my phone(touch pro2) completely froze up and kept freezing up after first input untill i did a hard reset.
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i think a magnet may interfere with the touch screen. not positive on this but am sure i`v read somewhere about tiny magnets being in the tip of some capacitive screen stylus`s. a stronger magnet to hold a hd2 would surely result in some type of touch screen interference. but like i said am not a 100% certain.
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i did another little test with a small round magnet around 2cm diameter. i moved it around the back of the phone while looking at the screen and i didnt notice any interference to the screen, at least to my eyes it looked like the magnet did not interfere with the phone at all.
However i moved the magnet to the screen and tried to touch the screen gently with the edge of the magnet and the screen responded immediately and it looked very precise too! i did several presses to the screen with the magnet and in all of them the screen responded exactly as it should, just like it should with the press of a finger, i even wrote some letters as text and it worked great. so i guess thats how they make capacitive stylus..
next time im gonna try to draw on notes application and see how precise it is on that.. (as long as i find a smaller magnet that i can handle better than this one)
i might try to make my own capacitive stylus....
why not....
I have attatched a magnet to the back of my HD2 so i can use my vent mount, i havent noticed any adverse effects.
I have looked very closely into this issue and it seems that the phone registers a touch when my finger is very close to the screen. It doesn't seem like an issue, but it is. Often when I'm scrolling through youtube videos, it plays a video. This is because right before I touch the screen and want to drag it, it actually selects one of the videos first. This is really annoying. It even happens when typing. I get the same letter twice because it first detects the touch when my finger is near, and then I press it, which gives 2 touches. Anyone else with this problem? Is there a way to turn this ''feature'' off?
Can't say I've seen this happening and even when slowly getting closer, I only type a letter with Swiftkey when I actually hit the glass. Maybe this thread can help? forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/how-to-increase-touch-sensitivity-t3443052
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Can't say I've seen this happening and even when slowly getting closer, I only type a letter with Swiftkey when I actually hit the glass. Maybe this thread can help? forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/how-to-increase-touch-sensitivity-t3443052
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I tried this but this is not the problem as I'm not even touching the glass yet the phone registers it (I have turned on "Show touch movement" in dev options). I looked very closely with my eye to really assure I'm not actually touching it. It happens when my finger is really close to the glass. Really strange. Am I the only one having this happen?
Do you have glove mode on ?
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Do you have glove mode on ?
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You are a hero. This was the problem. I thought having it constantly on wouldn't be a big deal and it would actually be useful if I happen to wear gloves. Thank you very much for solving this issue.
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You are a hero. This was the problem. I thought having it constantly on wouldn't be a big deal and it would actually be useful if I happen to wear gloves. Thank you very much for solving this issue.
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No problem, it's a common mistake
For anyone that's having a problem with their s-pen such as needing to press harder on the screen just for it to register or work to scroll etc etc take the s-pen out of the phone and hold it in your hand at the top near the clicker and take your other hand and FLICK it (kind of like if you were going to flick the back of someones ear, lol) pretty good a couple of times at the bottom near the TIP and then try to see if the sensitivity changes back to the way its supposed to be like on the older Notes.. It has something to do with the spring or something in there and if you flick it a few times pretty hard it fixes the spring holding the s-pen tip and then it'll work like a charm! Obviously don't try to flick it hard enough to break it people!
Thanks a ton. This worked for me. You are awesom man.
But is this a permanent fix or will I have to keep flicking the top part frequently?
kedarwalke said:
Thanks a ton. This worked for me. You are awesom man.
But is this a permanent fix or will I have to keep flicking the top part frequently?
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So far it seems to be permanent to me but if it ever does it again it's just a simple flick so not really a big deal.. However if it does keep on doing it I would go to Samsungs website and request a new one because that's what I did Friday and they're sending me a brand new one free of charge.. The only reason I figured it out was because I started taping it on the desk while I was on the phone unconsciously doing it and then I needed to do something on the screen and I suddenly noticed it was fixed and I no longer had to press harder directly after taping it on my desk, hahaha!!
kedarwalke said:
Thanks a ton. This worked for me. You are awesom man.
But is this a permanent fix or will I have to keep flicking the top part frequently?
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Is it still working out for you? Mine has been working great since I did it. It's so much better now and was driving me crazy when I had to push so hard and it would still skip off like I took it off the screen when I didn't.
MrMike2182 said:
Is it still working out for you? Mine has been working great since I did it. It's so much better now and was driving me crazy when I had to push so hard and it would still skip off like I took it off the screen when I didn't.
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Yes mate,thanks to your creative idea my Spen is working like a breeze now.I am expecting the replacement in two days from samsung but I will have to return this defective spen for the replacement.I ll try making some reason and see if I can keep this defective Spen with me as backup.
Cheers!!!
I noticed that the on mines is not scrolling the pages or the navigation gestures don't respond to the spen
Fixed under gesture settings
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I noticed that the on mines is not scrolling the pages or the navigation gestures don't respond to the spen
Fixed under gesture settings
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That's not the problem we were having ours was that we had to use too much pressure to get the pen to work and now I barely have to touch put any pressure at all before I would literally have to push the tip down pretty good for it to work and now I don't have to at all. But your suggestion might help someone else though.
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That's not the problem we were having ours was that we had to use too much pressure to get the pen to work and now I barely have to touch put any pressure at all before I would literally have to push the tip down pretty good for it to work and now I don't have to at all. But your suggestion might help someone else though.
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I have the same problem. I barely touch anything and it's launching apps and what ever I touch. It's not just the S-Pen, but my finger too.
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I have the same problem. I barely touch anything and it's launching apps and what ever I touch. It's not just the S-Pen, but my finger too.
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Go into settings and then display and check and see what your settings are set to for "accidental touch protection and touch sensitivity" that might help.. Also you need to make sure one of your hands is not accidentally on the screen wherever you're holding the phone at.
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Go into settings and then display and check and see what your settings are set to for "accidental touch protection and touch sensitivity" that might help.. Also you need to make sure one of your hands is not accidentally on the screen wherever you're holding the phone at.
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"accidental touch protection and touch sensitivity" is on - that's one of the things I always check when setting up the phone. No I'm not holding the phone wrong, it happens when I use the S-Pen or my finger.
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"accidental touch protection and touch sensitivity" is on - that's one of the things I always check when setting up the phone. No I'm not holding the phone wrong, it happens when I use the S-Pen or my finger.
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Not sure then I don't seem to have that problem. Maybe someone else will know.
Hey I was wondering why the s pen isn't working as smooth as my note 10+
I still don't get what you did to fix it