So Yesterday for no reason at all my 8525's screen went white. i thought it had frozen or some thing but it didn't snap out of it. I pressed the ok button on the side and could hear noise. I decided to restart. Nothing. Did this like 7 times. Finally I let it sit without the battery for like an hour. I worked but the colors were all messed up. Reset and it worked fine. So i set my alarm went to sleep and woke this morning to an email and a white screen. Turning it on and off a couple of times did it and I was already frustrated.
Then I read on a forum about Activesync automatically opening throughout the day to try and connect. So I tweaked that to manual connections. Still the same. So I decided to take advantage of the warranty but I needed to set back my rom b/c as you already know, it voids it. Also thinking that re-flashing might get rid of whatever it was failing in. No, still the same, and now worse. As or an hour ago, my navigation pad doesn't work either. It actually works for about a second when I turn it on and then after I press anything on the pad or surrounding buttons, it's gone.
I really would like to fix it myself at least for now and use the warranty exchange at about 11 months but if theres nothing I can do, I guess I can go get a new one. Also, I don't know if it has anything to do with it, but I downloaded Google Maps to my phone yesterday on the road (through 3G) and that was the only new program installed( I think it mightve been this).
Has this happened to anyone else?
Any help would be much appreciated. I hope I explained enough for anyone to respond. Thank you in advance to anyone with anything really.
Actually if you do a search under white screen you'll find many entries. Any attempt to fix yourself will void the warranty. If you are lucky it may only be the d-pad connector that is loose. This it is possible to check yourself but if have a warranty then I suggesting using it.
Otherwise see the link to my site in my signature for dismantling and service manual guides.
Mike
Thanks. You know I think I will take advantage of the warranty sometime this week. I don't know what happened. But I'm to update my situation. It now seems as though my directional pad seems to be the problem. it glitches on and off and using it sometimes creates the fade-out to white screen. I have to let it go to standby on its own to get my screen back or play around turning it on and off for a bit.
Also, once i re-installed me ATT rom with no applications, my screen seems to be off. I have a 1/32th sliver of the bottom of the screen at the top of my touchscreen. Even in landscape it shows my scroll bar and everything. I didn't even drop it but it is now slightly skewed down. Any input on this?
I also found this website talking about the same problem having with and unorthodox solution (which I tried to no avail). Here's the link if anyone want to check this out. http://www.htcwiki.com/page/AT&T+8525+Display+issues:+Display+is+dim,+blank,+white,+has+lines,+etc.?t=anon
Anyways, I'm gonna call ATT about this see if they can help but I think I will replace, I just didn't want to so soon.
Thanks again for the quick answer.
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Thanks. You know I think I will take advantage of the warranty sometime this week. I don't know what happened. But I'm to update my situation. It now seems as though my directional pad seems to be the problem. it glitches on and off and using it sometimes creates the fade-out to white screen. I have to let it go to standby on its own to get my screen back or play around turning it on and off for a bit.
Also, once i re-installed me ATT rom with no applications, my screen seems to be off. I have a 1/32th sliver of the bottom of the screen at the top of my touchscreen. Even in landscape it shows my scroll bar and everything. I didn't even drop it but it is now slightly skewed down. Any input on this?
I also found this website talking about the same problem having with and unorthodox solution (which I tried to no avail). Here's the link if anyone want to check this out. http://www.htcwiki.com/page/AT&T+8525+Display+issues:+Display+is+dim,+blank,+white,+has+lines,+etc.?t=anon
Anyways, I'm gonna call ATT about this see if they can help but I think I will replace, I just didn't want to so soon.
Thanks again for the quick answer.
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Everything they suggest on that site you have tried I guess, the soft and hard resets etc.
I agree with you about the d-pad (directional buttons). Those with this problem often report that the d-pad or it's connector are re;lated to this issue.
Pleased you have chosen the warranty route. You see evn if you opened it up, it can work for a short while and then return again. Also push hard for replacement not repair. They may do this automatically but if not try to persuade them. The reason is that quite a few folks have reported that even after an HTC repair the problem can come back. Actually I think there may be more than one physical cause of this issue and sorting one thing does not mean it won't come back via another route.
The good news is, if you get a good one as I did on the second attempt, I never had white screen or alignment issues - despite heavy use.
Mike
Once again, thank you Mike for all your input. I will be issuing an order for replacement instead of repair. Being at work all day today I've seen that it hasn't "whited' out, if you will, but has actually kept working. Ever so often the d-pad goes but comes back in a few seconds. It may be due to the WM6 i had on it so for now i will keep the original ATT upgrade of WM5 and try to hold off on the warranty as long as I can before it expires. That way I can enjoy a healthy new 8525 longer.
For now I will keep looking around in these forums and see if there ever is a solid solution. Thanks again, and good luck with all.
CKent
Hey my lovely XDA-ers, I'm really hoping for some magic here...
Yesterday my HD2 digitizer just stopped working... the Touchscreen will not respond to any inputs. It was bitterly cold outside so I was half hoping that an overnight stay in a warm room would help, but no avail...
The thing is, on one in every 5 restarts, I get a small amount of life from it. One one in 15 restarts, I get full use. So there's still life in there.
I could understand if it broke because I dropped the phone/squashed it, but at the time I was just playing Robo Defence, completely normal use, when all of a sudden it stopped responding.
I've uploaded a video, which shows how, occasionally, the bottom fifth of the screen works. However, as shown, when I'm using the top half of the screen, the digitizer appears to be receiving input from the bottom of the screen, as though I'm trying to perform a multi-touch action. For this reason I'm hoping there still be some way to rescue the phone without an expensive repair job. I bought it in March from XDA Marketplace, and it's served me faithfully since, but because of that I do not think I have the manufacturer's guarentee, or insurance
I've hard-reset, I've reflashed my ROM, I've tried in both WM and Android (my usual OS at the moment), I've reflashed over WM ROMs, and the problem stays the same... (also read all related threads!)
Sorry for inverted nature of vid!
So does anyone have any suggestions to try? Otherwise I might go through a £130 repair service on htcrepairs.co.uk - they do not show up on a forum search so I was wondering if anyone had used their service before?
Thanks all, appreciate any ideas.
Edd
Very odd indeed. I don't have a solution for your problem, but a suggestion. It is a long shot, but might help.
Whenever i had similar problems with my Wizard (i know, kind of old but one of the best older devices every made by HTC), i opened it and cleaned it from the inside and checked all the connections of keyboard, touchscreen, etc. to the mainboard. Sometimes it helped...
In the end, if you buy the replacement kit, you anyway have to open the HD2, so why not try this in prior to buying the kit...
A lot of people seem to have this problem. There's a lot of information on it here. Do a search. But the short answer is its a hardware problem. If your phone is still under warranty send it back. I think HTC will fix it for free if It's less than a year old. But try your carrier first.
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BAD NEWS...
i had EXACTLY this happen to me. eventually it totally stopped responding. Only option is to replace the digitizer.
GOOD NEWS..
After a month of searching, I found a really good guy to do it. www.iexpertstudio.com . The owner is VINCE. you can email him on his site. He charged $110 including mailing it back to me. He replaced the LCD and digitizer and sent it back. All works perfectly now.
I see you are in the UK so dont know if it makes sense to send it to the US. Alternative is to go on ebay and buy the screen/digitizer and replace it yourself.
(BTW normally i would have chucked the device, but even after 1 year I still dont think there is as versatile a device as the HD2. Had the DHD been 3G useable in the US I would have bought one.)
Thanks for the feedback guys, I've been doing some investigation my end (and you're right, there are similar threads on here, but none which had a "half-screen working" problem.)
I've narrowed the culprit down to my "Back" button. It's somehow exerting pressure on the screen, leading to either a non-responsive digitizer or an input at the bottom of the screen.
I might add this to an entry in the "ANDROID KILLS YOUR BUTTONS" thread
My choice is to live manually with it, or get the company mentioned in the first post to give it a good clean, but whether it's worth £80 just yet is a question for me.
Anyway, thanks for your input, guess this thread will close, but to any readers in future, if your screen seems to die, see if it's pressure on the screen caused by the buttons!
I can totally support your reasoning.
I haven't had any problems whatsoever with the touchscreen in almost a year of honoured career of this phone, while this morning I was trying to unlock it with no success (nothing special happened, I even used it 10 minutes this morning already). At first I thought it was the usual "sleepy" behaviour of the screen right after waking up, butafter sliding down the hdmini style unlocker at least 10 times with no effect I really started freaking out :O
I have longpress endkey set on instant reboot, and after that it seemed working... just not for too long.
To cut to the chase, what in my opinion supports your idea of hardware buttons interfering is:
sometimes, as I have LMT installed, with the tap&hold option enabled, swiping with just one finger triggered double swype instead (as if the screen detected a second, firm press on the screen elsewhere even if I sure as heck was swyping with one finger)
using mymobiler didn't work as well; if it was a hardware touchscreen problem, mymobiler should work, as it simulates touches, so it will just do its job even if the touchscreen is totally dead... while, IF the hardware touchscreen detected a firm press somewhere, mymobiler wasn't able to actively simulate another press
repeatedly pressing on the end key (which seems to be the culprit in my case) apparently solves the problem, as I can use the touchscreen again; also, a prolonged cycle of hibernating with end key, waking with end key, swyping down the hdmini lock (repeat at libitum) seemed to work, as if I dislodged something by activating the button so often
What I don't understand anyway is: HOW can a button pressing on the digitizer be exerting a touch action? If this was a resistive screen, I'd understand, but it's capacitive, and not even capacitive pens are so good as fingers in activating the touch. The buttons are just plastic with a metal contact underneath, and this metal contact shoudl by no means be anywhere near the digitizer.
Bah.
I know I have 2 years warranty on this device, but being far from my phone during the warranty processing gives me the creeps, so I'll just go on using it and pray this to be the defaillance of one sunday morning not to be seen again... after several soft resets (and fantasizing about a new rom flash, which I need anyway for other reasons) the problem seems to have settled by delicately bashing on the end key. The unlock slider is responsive after every wake up now... FOR now.
Praying...
My screen also died. So the only thing I have to do is press on the end key for a couple of times to make it work again?
lol, that's ONE possibility.
Just saying, in my case it worked, and still does since it happened once more this evening, so it's definitely got something to do with the hardware keys messing around (and hopefully dislodging themself for good, or I'll have to send it back for servicing), anyway in your case it could also be a dead digitizer, so no go
let's put all this about touch screen in 1 sticky thread pls.
I've been living for the problem for about three weeks now. It's never got worse, but never got better. It's a livable situation so for the moment I'll deal with it. I might check with HT about warranty, but it's not yet bothersom enough to make me want to flash back to stock, send it off etc. etc.
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I've been living for the problem for about three weeks now. It's never got worse, but never got better. It's a livable situation so for the moment I'll deal with it. I might check with HT about warranty, but it's not yet bothersom enough to make me want to flash back to stock, send it off etc. etc.
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ditto.
Actually, I don't like having paid good money for a defective phone, but being without HD2 for up to a couple of weeks to one month (maybe? have no idea how fast HTC servicing is) is troublesome. I may buy for a deal a blue angel as a spare, yet, no GPS...
The most problematic event is if you get the "stuck" screen during a call.
In my case, it's the end key that messes it up; if the screen's dead, pressing twice the end key, firmly enough (once for screen off, then again for screen back on) wakes up the screen, and apparently, during a ringing incoming call, you can press the hardware end key without rejecting it, so it's a viable option (not taking into consideration the fact that trying to wake up the screen takes time, and the caller may give up after a while if you're not fast enough).
But if for any reason the screen gets stuck while the call is connected, I am stuck too, as to wake it up I should press the end key thus hanging on the other party.
Sad story.
EDIT: forget what I wrote, pressing end key while phone is ringing WILL reject the call. I tried it before during a real incoming call and apparently it didn't do it, but now it just did.
I also have a HD with a dead screen....
Only thing here is I have sent it back twice already to TelSuck here in Australia only to have it returned after the tech has wiped it over and reflashed it for me... What helpful little imps they are!
Code:
http://www.youtube.com/v/T6ssqmpRIB0
Its drivin me nuts sending it away for 3 weeks at a time to have someone with just enough grey matter to be able to wield a screwdriver tell me nothing is wrong.
Happy to try any suggestions!
@insinr8
this thread is just for half-dead screens where the screen sometimes actually works. Unless you can resurrect it by firmly pressing on the hardware keys, but if it's dead on a regular basis, then it's not our same problem I'm afraid :-(
@OP
while having an "attack", did you try plugging out the microsd to see if it magically solved the problem?
I mean, if it did, it would still be a hardware problem related to the microsd slot, since there is no point for a faulty microsd to mess up the touchscreen, and let it work from time to time
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@insinr8
this thread is just for half-dead screens where the screen sometimes actually works. Unless you can resurrect it by firmly pressing on the hardware keys, but if it's dead on a regular basis, then it's not our same problem I'm afraid :-(
@OP
while having an "attack", did you try plugging out the microsd to see if it magically solved the problem?
I mean, if it did, it would still be a hardware problem related to the microsd slot, since there is no point for a faulty microsd to mess up the touchscreen, and let it work from time to time
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I will try that - it seems to happen more frequently when plugged in and charging, and now more buttons seem to be the cause/fix (e.g. now the home-button, or when I am on home-screens the phone will swipe "left", whereas before it would swipe "right". I'll keep playing.
I may check out HTC as I reckon my warranty, if I have one, will run out soon... Will still wait til after Xmas as I need my toy for the boring bits of Xmas!
I'm having same trouble now whit my phone except problems started mouth ago. After some period I again power up my phone and suddenly everything worked perfectly. Unfortunately this last only for two days and then exactly same problems happened, partially function screen.
As far as I know only good solution is replacing digitizer... I already ordered one for me.
exactly the same problem for me.. I sent it back with warranty yesterday
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I may check out HTC as I reckon my warranty, if I have one, will run out soon... Will still wait til after Xmas as I need my toy for the boring bits of Xmas!
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Ditto.
Actually, my warranty lasts two years, which means until 2012, anyway I cannot stand risking to lose calls because the screen dies on me in the wrong moment, and the only way to wake it up is pressing the endkey (which by the way is the only "cure", and apparently never the cause).
I will be uploading a video on youtube regarding this, also to show it to the guys at the HTC support who will be asking me to hard reset and reflash until annoyed to death (as if that will solve anything)
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This is the video that I just uploaded to youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3-PNYwpYeI
EDIT: One day after, the problem has become way more frequent, 1 out of three times I wake up the phone, diugitizer is dead and I need the " on the end key to make it work
Uploaded another video on youtube with problem showing on vanilla lockscreen so HTC support doesn't try and tell me it's CHT lockscreen's fault
Last bump.
Screen has ben promoted from "hardware key problem" to "permanent death".
Now I can use the phone with mymobiler, but I can't anymore with touch, I seem to not be able even to wake it up even by pressing on end key
Re-flashing last official rom upgrade now to see if anything changes... yeah,sure
Ouch - good luck, hope mine doesn't go that way...
search for "ghost" "key presses", nothing relevant so here we go, hope to get a response on this one or I am going back to another ROM
I am getting really bad ghost key presses with this ROM, I used them with WINMO roms but a fix was released. This suggests the screen driver for Android is not yet stable and needs more DEV or is it just me that is having this problem. Sometimes it is so bad I feel like dropping back to winmo, yes I know it is that bad.
issue 1:
Sometimes all the keys around that key I am pressing fire and not just once, several times, mostly on edges of screen.
Issue two:
Sometimes when I have finished a word I get lots of ghost presses and random characters as if I am running my fingers all over the keyboard.
Could my screen be faulty?
See my thread ..u will find all the answers ....ur screen is defective dude ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745255
Dont forget to press the thanks button ...
coolbeer1990 said:
See my thread ..u will find all the answers ....ur screen is defective dude ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745255
Dont forget to press the thanks button ...
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I saw that, however the problem pretty much goes away on winmo ROMS, dont want to go to the bother of removing spl/mag and android to send it for repair if it isnt broken, are you 100% positive my screen is damaged?
Yes dude ...100% sure ...when i had this problem it was negligable on the windows mobile and more on the android builds...its sooo anoying ....just get ur screen replaced ...u will start loving android buils
Thanks, I will look into this, phone is still within warranty.
He's right, see my thread here. I had exactly the same problem as you. Sent my phone back to HTC, replacement screen, no more bounce/ghost keys.
didnt see that, didnt think of searching for "bounce"
I have put in a support email to HTC.
@Major_Sarcasm --- i still remember how much i had to convince u to change ur touchscreen !
ok, I have a strange issue that I can not seem to find the answer to. Whenever my phone locks after not being used etc. When I wake it up, the touchscreen will not let me unlock. It takes me close to 50 attempts to do so. However once I actually am successful in getting it unlocked. The touchscreen works flawlessly. I have tried several different builds, all of them I have the same issue. I have done Task29 and started fresh on that front each time. I tried a couple different radios. Any suggestions?
**** man i got the same problem! i tried hard reset, rom updates, other buils but it wont go away!
plz someone help us!
Hi,I'm using BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA GINGER 2.3.3 RAM_V5 works great so far the best that I tried.After u flash android it's recommended to wait few mins until it loads everything then do a shut down - not a restart.then again u wait few mins and u do a second shut down. after that the os should work fine ,at least for me works great. if that doesn't help ,try to reinstall everything from the start..hspl radio etc.
You could just turn off the lockscreen? Get 'NoLock' from the market. That should do the business if you want.
I've got the same problem since 5 days, It started when I started using WIFI and turning off my 3G ..
you have the same problem my hd2 has....it is a hardware issue. the screen becomes unresponsive. if you still have warranty send it in for a repair. if not... repair it yourself. it's not that hard. the screen wire is probably just loose.
follow this video to take apart your hd2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-jnUKufC4
Sounds like a similar problem that I'm experiencing. If I wake the lockscreen with the send key instead, it works. When I boot I get exactly one shot with the end key then it locks up again. I'm able to use it with the send key, but concerned it might get worse. If anyone finds the solution please post.
I actually for the first time had this, and I know this is going to get flamed but its not the Screen thats the problem. And I think (BIG IF) that the dreaded unresponsive screen issue that we keep reading about Majority of them I think is not the screen.
I have 2 HD2s and both have worked flawlessly without any problems, but today I was playing with my test phone that doesnt get used that much and I noticed after installing a new rom that my screen after I played with it for a bit went black (sleep) and when I woke it up it wouldnt respond, first thing that crossed my mind is I just lost my digitizier, and started wondering okay why, I went as far to re-flash WinMo stock HD2 rom, same issue, so I decided its time to find out exactly whats causing this, and I found it. I wasnt going to make a post again cause I figured people would be "Not another thread about this" but I know whats causing the screen issue, at least this is my suspicision and I have temporarily fixed mine.
The problem is HARDWARE, The Culprit: THE END KEY (Red Button)! The Answer to "How or Why": The "End" key is used to turn the phone on and off or to put it in sleep mode, it is the most used key out of all 5 keys, it is used probably 7x more then all the rest, Its used for just about everything, now how does this cause the unresponsive screen? Easy, the phone lock or sleep is associated with this key, Its the only way to make the screen go off other then waiting for the time out period. Because by habit we mostly hit the end key to turn the screen off the phone automatically associates this with locking the phone, once that happens the screen becomes unresponsive because of several reasons: 1) The contact under the actual key has dirt which causes the button to stick in the down position, 2) the contact is bent which the "end" key is pressing down on the contact which is making contact with the board and causing it to be unresponsive, 3) The contact is worn. This is the reason why if you press the end key a few times (anywhere between 2-10) and then try the screen responds, this is cause your "unsticking" the key which then lets the screen respond.
Most of us when we hit the end key press to the far right to avoid hitting the back key (The button with the left arrow) which causes the end button to lean toward the right. But you can wake the phone up with the other 4 keys to the lock screen which will allow you to unlock the phone. As a temporary fix for myself, on my test phone I now make sure to press on the left side of the key to prevent this from happening, since its a test phone I'm not worried, but the real solution is to take the phone apart and clean the underside of the end button, and the actual contact with alcohol to remove the build up of dirt and whatever else. And also if the contact frame is bent to GENTLY bend the right side back up alittle to stop it from happening, or sending it to htc and letting them fix it.
We have to RE-TRAIN ourselves to start using the other keys to wake the phone up and not rely on the end key so much.
Hope this helps anyone finally why we have this problem. And if it works for you then hit the Thanks button
hi guys I used to have wp7 on my hd2 and the touch screen work correctly after i install the android rom it works correctly for the first time running but when it goes to standby mod and i wanna unlock it the touch screen doesn't work and i testing a lot of rom and all of them have the same problem and it also work at the rocovery part whats your idea about my problem
vemsen said:
hi guys I used to have wp7 on my hd2 and the touch screen work correctly after i install the android rom it works correctly for the first time running but when it goes to standby mod and i wanna unlock it the touch screen doesn't work and i testing a lot of rom and all of them have the same problem and it also work at the rocovery part whats your idea about my problem
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Your device is most likely facing the infamous end button/digitizer dilemma. Since you said it happens after waking up the device from standby (using the power button, right?). As far as I know there is no fix other than a replacement. I don't really remember which part required replacement (digitiser or buttons strip), but I'm sure the only permanent fix was a replacement (until the replacement fails, lol).
If it is just the power button, you could use another button to wake up the phone using button remapper or similar app.
Also, use softkeys for back button, since the digitiser cable runs below these two buttons.
New digitizer is way forward & they like $10USD these days
Like mentioned above you may get some use if avoid pressing buttons but if intend on keeping device for a while repair is worth while.
Mister B said:
New digitizer is way forward & they like $10USD these days
Like mentioned above you may get some use if avoid pressing buttons but if intend on keeping device for a while repair is worth while.
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Yes, at ebay you can get a New digitizer for less than $10USD.