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Guys, I just want to confirm that my Ameo really is running on 3.5G (HSDPA). Is there some icon or way to confirm that? I see the 3G icon at the top but bandwidth test returns 1.1 mbps and I expect more from HSDPA. Or does T-Mobile need to set a switch on their end? I have the web-n-walk plan.
Thanks,
Krip
1.1 is HSDPA, not UTMS
When connected to normal 3G network my Dopod U1000 shows a 3G icon, after HSDPA network covered it will show a H icon.
simdao said:
When connected to normal 3G network my Dopod U1000 shows a 3G icon, after HSDPA network covered it will show a H icon.
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hi, since you can connect to the HSDPA, can you kindly do a test for me for this problem?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302827
Am i on HSDPA....
As soon as you get higher bandwidth than 384 Kbps then you are on HSDPA regardless of what the icon on your phone reads, most networks have the feature enabled to register the "H" icon whebn you are using HSDPA but not all. The message is part of a SIB broadcast and is set as a parameter on the BTS cell that covers you - if this message is not enabled then you will only ever see the "3G" icon
As for speed 1.1 Mbps is about average if you are in a well populated area, the restriction comes mostly from the capacity available in in the BTS site serving you, most operators only have around 2x E1 (approx 4 Mbps) for the entire site so if you have more than 1 user on HSDPA then you will only get around 1 Mbps each - this dynamicaly adjusts if there is more bandwidth available for you to use. To get the higher speeds then you must be in a cell that uses 16QAM modulation (Tytn has this feature) and T-Mobile has this enabled on every site in the network but not all operators do!
normal 3G is 384Kbps download Hsdpa on T-mobile is restricted to their max network speed of 1Mbps but there are rumours of them soon going to 3.8 mbps, but the athena maxes out at 1.8 mbps anyway, so if you want full speed get a USB dongle.
web and walk plus
Im not sure if you are aware but to enable the hsdpa you must be on the "web and walk max" package in the uk.
If you are on the standard W&W package you will not benefit. I have the MAX W&W and can now enjoy the faster hsdpa connection, further more I can get faster speeds using my ameo and wifirouter linked to my laptop than I actualy get via my usb tmobile dongle.
In a nutshell, dont pay extra for the slower hsdpa dongle, not when you can pay £5 extra for the W&WMAX and enjoy wireless connection at a higher speed. I usualy use my laptop with the ameo tucked away inside my suit jacket, and often have people wondering where my dongle is!
hedgemonstahinz said:
Im not sure if you are aware but to enable the hsdpa you must be on the "web and walk max" package in the uk.
If you are on the standard W&W package you will not benefit. I have the MAX W&W and can now enjoy the faster hsdpa connection, further more I can get faster speeds using my ameo and wifirouter linked to my laptop than I actualy get via my usb tmobile dongle.
In a nutshell, dont pay extra for the slower hsdpa dongle, not when you can pay £5 extra for the W&WMAX and enjoy wireless connection at a higher speed. I usualy use my laptop with the ameo tucked away inside my suit jacket, and often have people wondering where my dongle is!
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Not true, I have both W&W added to my phone account and W&Wmax on a data card and both sims are capable of full 1mbps HSDPA in either device
Restricted network speeds on T-Mobile
ice_coffee said:
normal 3G is 384Kbps download Hsdpa on T-mobile is restricted to their max network speed of 1Mbps but there are rumours of them soon going to 3.8 mbps, but the athena maxes out at 1.8 mbps anyway, so if you want full speed get a USB dongle.
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Hi there, T-Mobile does not have any restrictions on download speeds apart from your service level (wnw max, plus etc) almost all wnw users can use the maximum speed available to them (apart from the newer users). The network is fully 3.8Mbps already and has been for around 9 months, within the next 8 weeks it will be 9.6Mbps capable (with a new datacard or release 6 mobile device) and within 6 months they should be around 10.7Mbps capable - most of the restrictions that users see (speeds not higher than 1.2Mbps etc) come from lack of capacity in the BTS site or transmission backhaul, the system automaticaly restricts bandwidth per user so that all users can be served at the same time, and it's not often nowadays that you only get 1 data user per BTS site!! not in built up areas......:-D
W'n'W Std = £7.50/month - No HSDPA (except on some older contracts) 1Gb FUP no tethering
W'n'W Plus = £12.50/ Month - HSDPA - speeds vary depending on congestion - Athena limited to 1,8Mb max 3Gb FUP No VOIP tethering allowed
W'n'W Max = £25? / Month As plus but with VOIP
Unless someone wants to correct me that's how I believe it stands (the old W'n'W Pro for £10/month was only available for a few months)
T do not limit speeds but the 1.8/3.6/7.2 etc are maximums which are shared so you are unlikely to ever get 'full' speed.
My 3G vs HSPDA test from San Antonio
I have a AT&T Tilt. Freshly programed with the 6.1 AT&T Rom. Minimal upgrades like color KB etc.. I have a Panasonic CF-74 connected to the PDA via USB. I ran 4 test each using 3G and HSPDA.
Here is what I found. Using the stock Internet Sharing provided on the PDA.
Active Sync 4.5.
Web site used: http://www.speedtest.net
3G test 1 2 3 4
ping 323ms 165 182 167
DL 1.33mb 1.01 1.35 1.10
Up .34 .80 .52 .24
HSPDA test 1 2 3 4
ping 292ms 189 640 113
DL .99mb .85 .72 1.01
Up .06 .31 .02 .41
It seems to me that 3G is faster.
I rebooted both laptop and pda after each test.
I connected to google once before running each test.
I waited 5 minutes after each boot up.
I used Keiser Tweak.
Nothing was syncing
Hmm,
I'm located in Singapore.
For some reason, after my HTC TP2 switch to 3G instead of HSDPA..
The Opera and Youtube speed is sooo much faster as compare with HSDPA.
When I was on HSDPA, the Opera is slow loading and Youtube a few time with reload for buffering.
Where else, on 3G.. the download speed is so much faster.
The first clip of the video start to play.. I can see the progress bar is on the
way to complete the video loading.
This proof 3G is better in Singapore with Starhub connection.
I still wonder
BTW, this is what I change in the Registry.
Locate the following key in the registry:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Internet Settings
On the Edit menu, point to New, click DWORD Value, and then add the following registry values:
Value name: MaxConnectionsPer1_0Server
Value data: 32
Base: Decimal
Value Name: MaxConnectionsPerServer
Value data: 16
Base: Decimal
Exit Registry Editor.
then softreset and do a speed test
hsdpa
I need the help. But there is no such option under "advanced network" on the htc tilt 2(Enable/Disabled hsdpa option).What programs recomended for me
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anyone know i this will work with t-mobile's new HSPA network?
heavyio said:
I have a AT&T Tilt. Freshly programed with the 6.1 AT&T Rom. Minimal upgrades like color KB etc.. I have a Panasonic CF-74 connected to the PDA via USB. I ran 4 test each using 3G and HSPDA.
Here is what I found. Using the stock Internet Sharing provided on the PDA.
Active Sync 4.5.
Web site used: http://www.speedtest.net
3G test 1 2 3 4
ping 323ms 165 182 167
DL 1.33mb 1.01 1.35 1.10
Up .34 .80 .52 .24
HSPDA test 1 2 3 4
ping 292ms 189 640 113
DL .99mb .85 .72 1.01
Up .06 .31 .02 .41
It seems to me that 3G is faster.
I rebooted both laptop and pda after each test.
I connected to google once before running each test.
I waited 5 minutes after each boot up.
I used Keiser Tweak.
Nothing was syncing
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i used samsung galaxy s wen showing H icon instead of 3g on att usa california, it gave results of 4.1mbps,
i used sonyericsson x10 on att showing 3g icon (it never shows H icon ever though), on att usa california it gave me max speed of 3.97 mbps
heavyio said:
I have a AT&T Tilt. Freshly programed with the 6.1 AT&T Rom. Minimal upgrades like color KB etc.. I have a Panasonic CF-74 connected to the PDA via USB. I ran 4 test each using 3G and HSPDA.
Here is what I found. Using the stock Internet Sharing provided on the PDA.
Active Sync 4.5.
Web site used: http://www.speedtest.net
3G test 1 2 3 4
ping 323ms 165 182 167
DL 1.33mb 1.01 1.35 1.10
Up .34 .80 .52 .24
HSPDA test 1 2 3 4
ping 292ms 189 640 113
DL .99mb .85 .72 1.01
Up .06 .31 .02 .41
It seems to me that 3G is faster.
I rebooted both laptop and pda after each test.
I connected to google once before running each test.
I waited 5 minutes after each boot up.
I used Keiser Tweak.
Nothing was syncing
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I'm getting similar results with my Samsung Captivate on a customer ROM. 3G seems to produce faster results than HSPDA.
i used this tweak on windowsphone
works great!
Hi all sorry but Im not real up tpo date with some of this stuff, but I will tri to explain; I have just go a prepaid 3G wireless sim and got it sort of working but the data really is very slow about 30-40k, It is with Optus in Australia and I am in a regonal area I thort it may have been sonthing wrong with my shift but i tried a telstra data sim in it today and it worked at nearly 1600k down and 260 upload.
I spoke to an optus person today and they said it was because the device doesn't have a band for HSDPA 2100MHz/900MHz dual band that optus uses in regional areas is this right? Is there a away to add that setting/band?
Is theere a nother rom with thoses settings? (I am using i00's rom which has been working well)
But here shows it works on optus 2100mhz 3G band.
http://www.onlineshoppingaustralia....ear-htc-shift-35g-next-g-mobile-computer.html
I think it's the 900mhz side of things optus uses in regional Australia that is the problem, and Im 300km the closest place that has a 2100mhz service
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Hi all sorry but Im not real up tpo date with some of this stuff, but I will tri to explain; I have just go a prepaid 3G wireless sim and got it sort of working but the data really is very slow about 30-40k, It is with Optus in Australia and I am in a regonal area I thort it may have been sonthing wrong with my shift but i tried a telstra data sim in it today and it worked at nearly 1600k down and 260 upload.
I spoke to an optus person today and they said it was because the device doesn't have a band for HSDPA 2100MHz/900MHz dual band that optus uses in regional areas is this right? Is there a away to add that setting/band?
Is theere a nother rom with thoses settings? (I am using i00's rom which has been working well)
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The Shift does not have UMTS 900 band (it is Tri-Band UMTS: 850/1900/2100). The speed you say there sounds more like Australian GPRS connection. So, you are probably running your GPRS. What is the icon on your WinMo side - G, E or 3G/H (sorry if I am telling you to suck eggs there)? If it is G or E then you are not using UMTS.
Next G works very well on it (I use mine all the time) and has good coverage. It is on the 850 band so fits in the Shift range. My wife even has one of those Telstra Pre-Paid Wireless Internet USB Sticks. There is a SIM inside that I took out and stuck in the shift to test out because it has better pricing per MB (can not make phone calls on it - so my normal Next G went back in )
Cheers
Yes it is running on gprs and it does tha just the letter "G" there. so it is a hardwear problem? can it be overcome by softwear?
Scott's Shift said:
Yes it is running on gprs and it does tha just the letter "G" there. so it is a hardwear problem? can it be overcome by softwear?
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No . It is hardware only and no software can "make" the physical antenna change its frequency setting (lots of reasons, all very boring and maths based - way beyond me).
The Shift is very capable for the platform, but like almost all "world phones" (ie quad band GSM), it does not have the quad band UMTS. In fact I do not know any quad band UMTS devices (though there probably are some).
If you live in a region outside of "normal" 3G (and note only Telstra has H capability - unless something has changed with the other carriers over the las six months), then Telstra is the only solution at this stage.
Love them or hate them (I'm personnal luke warm), they do have good coverage for the Australian landmass.
thanks, its a pitty that telstra is so expensive they charge $30 for 225meg and optus is $30 for 1 gig
Does anyone know why my Omnia 2 gets weak signal strength on At&t. I rarely get the 3g network and, at most, get 1 bar. However, the internet works fine and I love the phone but don't know if I need to go to Verizon to get better reception.
Tried At&t support but, other than upgrading the sim card, they won"t do anything with a non-at&t device. And since it was bought before the phone was launched in the U.S. I can't get support from Samsung. Are there some settings on the phone that can be changed to improve reception? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated - thanks.
Here's the network specs for the phone: GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, UMTS 850/1900 MHz, HSDPA 7.2Mbps, HSUPA5.76 Mbps
JohnHere999 said:
Does anyone know why my Omnia 2 gets weak signal strength on At&t. I rarely get the 3g network and, at most, get 1 bar. However, the internet works fine and I love the phone but don't know if I need to go to Verizon to get better reception.
Tried At&t support but, other than upgrading the sim card, they won"t do anything with a non-at&t device. And since it was bought before the phone was launched in the U.S. I can't get support from Samsung. Are there some settings on the phone that can be changed to improve reception? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated - thanks.
Here's the network specs for the phone: GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, UMTS 850/1900 MHz, HSDPA 7.2Mbps, HSUPA5.76 Mbps
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Try changing your band settings to WCDMA then 850+1900. Works great for my Touch HD T8285.
almost there - thanks
Thanks for your reply. But, after surfing the net I still can't figure out how to change these settings on the Omnia 2, ok I don't know how to do it on any phone. Is this something easily done, and if so, how?
JohnHere999 said:
Thanks for your reply. But, after surfing the net I still can't figure out how to change these settings on the Omnia 2, ok I don't know how to do it on any phone. Is this something easily done, and if so, how?
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Not sure on your phone but on mine go to settings, then phone, then band settings.
no band settings there either
Not that easy. I get phone, then settings, then the options are general, voice call, video call and message.
General sub folders are: call cost; caller id; own number; fixed dialing; auto answer; closed user group
Voice Call sub folders are: call barring, call forwarding, call waiting
Video Call - n/a
Message sub folders are call broadcast message, wap push message, voice mail, send text message options
I tried looking at the connections menu which yields:
My Internet - add a new modem; edit my proxy server; manage existing connections.
Manage existing allows you to change from media net or other connections and when you do that there are no options for changing band. Also if you try to create a new connection there is still no mention of band.
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I am not sure if your phone has 850mhz, as far as I Know the omnia 2 i8000 has 900/1900/2100 compatibility and maybe that is why you are getting so weak signal,
Only the Bell Canada Omnia2 has 850mhz + 1900mhz so unless you have this one it won't work well with at&t 3G.
rob3rtx said:
Only the Bell Canada Omnia2 has 850mhz + 1900mhz so unless you have this one it won't work well with at&t 3G.
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This is true, I have the GT I8000l version and the band settings are in the Omnia Settings/Network Settings/Band settings menu -- Mine is set to Automatic, though there are other choices including the WCDMA, GSM 900/1800 and GSM 850/1900. You must also enable HSPDA setting as well (same Network menu) and then reset your phone.
I get Great 3G+ / HSPDA speeds almost everywhere around Harrisburg, PA "EXCEPT" in my own HOME location (only Edge ) Just that I am behind a mountain so.....
Anyway, this lack of Home location 3G+ is causing me to place my Omnia 2 (Bell Canada version) up for sale as I was expecting 3G in my own home !!!! (probably going to Ebay this weekend. The phone is great though and the screen (OLED) is INCREDIBLE !!! I am running SPB mobile shell 3.0 (Lite rom installed) so phone is quite zippy without the widget mess though the original Bell rom can be reinstalled. ( I have on DVD ) Really ticked though about the lack of 3G* at home so I may be looking for HD2 or such --and settle for EDGE speed.
Thanks to XDA developers for considering and supporting some Non HTC phones such as OMNIA 2
Not true AT ALL!
rob3rtx said:
Only the Bell Canada Omnia2 has 850mhz + 1900mhz so unless you have this one it won't work well with at&t 3G.
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I have the original Omnia II with the 1900mhz band and have not had a single problem with excellent 3G speeds in Chicago and surrounding suburbs.
I'm getting the exact same signal strengths I was getting when I had the ATT Fuze - which does have BOTH the 850 and the 1900 mhz bands.
technillion said:
I have the original Omnia II with the 1900mhz band and have not had a single problem with excellent 3G speeds in Chicago and surrounding suburbs.
I'm getting the exact same signal strengths I was getting when I had the ATT Fuze - which does have BOTH the 850 and the 1900 mhz bands.
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Chicago might primarily be 1900mhz but Dallas (my home) and probably where the original poster is located is 850mhz so the i8000L from Bell would be a better choice and probably for everyone else so you could never be limited to 1900mhz.
CAL0613 said:
This is true, I have the GT I8000l version and the band settings are in the Omnia Settings/Network Settings/Band settings menu -- Mine is set to Automatic, though there are other choices including the WCDMA, GSM 900/1800 and GSM 850/1900. You must also enable HSPDA setting as well (same Network menu) and then reset your phone.
I get Great 3G+ / HSPDA speeds almost everywhere around Harrisburg, PA "EXCEPT" in my own HOME location (only Edge ) Just that I am behind a mountain so.....
Anyway, this lack of Home location 3G+ is causing me to place my Omnia 2 (Bell Canada version) up for sale as I was expecting 3G in my own home !!!! (probably going to Ebay this weekend. The phone is great though and the screen (OLED) is INCREDIBLE !!! I am running SPB mobile shell 3.0 (Lite rom installed) so phone is quite zippy without the widget mess though the original Bell rom can be reinstalled. ( I have on DVD ) Really ticked though about the lack of 3G* at home so I may be looking for HD2 or such --and settle for EDGE speed.
Thanks to XDA developers for considering and supporting some Non HTC phones such as OMNIA 2
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I loved the Omnia 2 but the lack of Roms and not having xda support (not such much anymore now i guess) made me sell it and go back to my Rogers Magic. I'll probably wait for the HTC Obsession or maybe the HTC Bravo as my next phone i definitely wanna check out Windows 7 when it comes out.
technillion said:
I have the original Omnia II with the 1900mhz band and have not had a single problem with excellent 3G speeds in Chicago and surrounding suburbs.
I'm getting the exact same signal strengths I was getting when I had the ATT Fuze - which does have BOTH the 850 and the 1900 mhz bands.
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can you post your network settings?
I've had pretty good reception in the NYC area on 3G for the past 6 months... until today. Now my phone can get 3G and 3g+ reception but I can't get any data over 3G anymore. When I step down to EDGE, I can get data again. iPhone users seem to be fine. Anyone else having these problems in the NYC area?
Hey guys, I've looked around but nobody seems to have the answer to this question:
I just got my focus unlocked, awesome!, and I'm trying to input the new DATA settings from Telus to be able to use 3G+, but the only settings available are the APN settings. There is no settings for Proxy Server or Port. Will this affect my ability to use 3G+?
The second issue is MMS. There is a topic discussing it, but the instructions provided were not accurate and do not work.
Hope you guys can help me tackled this!
Cheers
There is currently no way to enter configuration information other than the APN.
There are currently only 4 possible solutions to this:
1) Samsung provides support through their Network Profile app (available in the Samsung section of the marketplace on your phone). The problem is this app refuses to run on AT&T phones. So it's currently useless.
2) Microsoft exposes these settings to the user in their next update (supposedly in January sometime - but no details on if this problem will be addressed).
3) Microsoft exposes developer API's to allow changes to these settings (currently no such API's exist).
4) Jailbreak the phone and change the XML file that is used by the operating system to configure these settings.
In the mean time - for Focus users - there is no way to change these settings today.
Thanks for the reply, I'm guessing that without the proxy server and the port, I will not be able to get 3G+, which is why I'm stuck with 3G right now?
It its Telus, that means its a Rogers phone, not AT&T. So the samsung network profile app may work?
JMackey said:
It its Telus, that means its a Rogers phone, not AT&T. So the samsung network profile app may work?
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Thanks for the reply JM, no it's an AT&T phone. I bought it from the USA.
Hey,
Sorry i didn't really read the OP correctly My original post isn't really relevant to your case. So your phone never shows 3G+ or H when you touch near the top when browsing?
Have you tried a speed test? ( www.mobilespeedtest.com ) If your getting over 2 mbps after several test then i think your HSPA.
i pretty sure samsung focus doesn't support HSPA+
reaver_shadow said:
Basically, i've got an Unbranded Rogers Focus (within a week of release had the LG Quantum on release day), was able to unlock it, figure out APN data (kind of, read below), but get no MMS and difficulties with my data connection.
You should read through this Thread a started;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850914
basically, Telus (i.e. Bell towers/network in the east) has an HSPA network only, but since the phone was programmed to work on networks which built up from the original GSM standard, the phone is constantly in "3G" (i.e. EDGE) and when a request for data is sent the phone detects whether there is access to HSPA.
Overall, this can take up to a few moments, however the phone will receive data over "3G network". Since bell/Telus only have HSPA you get no data (since not EDGE) until phone switches on/to HSPA mode (3G+)
Bell has the LG quantum, and works perfectly. Thus, i suspect the "network profile" can be changed to account for the HSPA only network. So when a data request is given, phone automatically switches on/to HSPA mode, without having to detect it first.
This is my hypothesis, i've done quite a bit of research, and while i haven't got a direct confirmation as no one will comment on a competitor network, and Samsung's response is " our phones are designed to work with specific providers" it appears to lead to this conclution.
As far as actually changing the "network profile" it can be done on an LG , HTC apparently has an app to allow customers to do it, but for samsung device, we've got no way to change it right now. yesterday, it was give some publicity by WPcentral.com
To keep up-to-date on the topic check out this link:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com.../thread/7834506f-c60d-4eb6-b04a-9829131922ee/
If a fix/workaround is found i keep your eyes on this forum as i will defiantly post something.
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reaver_shadow said:
basically, Telus (i.e. Bell towers/network in the east) has an HSPA network only, but since the phone was programmed to work on networks which built up from the original GSM standard, the phone is constantly in "3G" (i.e. GPRS/EDGE) and when a request for data is sent the phone detects whether there is access to HSPA.
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GPRS/EDGE is "2G" not "3G".
I just received an update in the marketplace for the Network Diagnosis app but it still doesn't run on AT&T phones.
Hey Reaver, thanks for the link, I didn't see your thread before, I'll keep checking it. As for your hypothesis, I never see a 3G+ or H icon at the top even when it is loading something, what IS REALLY interesting is the following test I made:
I started downloading a 2mb picture, or loaded a website, and as soon as I started that, I went to http://i.dslr.net/iphone_speedtest.html and did a 3G speed test. These are my results:
When device is downloading 2mb picture, download speed was calculated:
- 758 kbps
- 1320 kbps
After downloading picture, download speed was:
- 176 kbps
- 148 kbps
Loading www.gamespot.com, download speed was:
- 924 kbps
- 612 kbps
- 947 kbps
After www.gamespot.com was loaded, download speed was:
- 226 kbps
- 289 kbps
- 88 kbps
- 284 kbps
Now as far as I know, these are high end 3G speeds, not 3G+. Anyone care to elaborate?
TomH123 said:
GPRS/EDGE is "2G" not "3G".
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From what i've read and heard EDGE is considered 3G "for the most part".
You are right though GPRS is 2G, i'll correct that on my post
ghaith_d said:
Hey Reaver, thanks for the link, I didn't see your thread before, I'll keep checking it. As for your hypothesis, I never see a 3G+ or H icon at the top even when it is loading something, what IS REALLY interesting is the following test I made:
I started downloading a 2mb picture, or loaded a website, and as soon as I started that, I went to http://i.dslr.net/iphone_speedtest.html and did a 3G speed test. These are my results:
....
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.....
Now as far as I know, these are high end 3G speeds, not 3G+. Anyone care to elaborate?
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I read a thread about something similar to this.
Question: are you using a old SIM card or fairly new one?
It's telus so i suspect it's fairly new
I'm using a new HSPA Sim card, got it last week. It's interesting that you see a 3G+ icon and I don't...hmmm
From http://mobilespeedtest.com without concurrent download:
- 307 kbps
- 462 kbps
- 500 kbps
- 512 kbps
From mobile speed test with concurrent download:
- 186 kbps
- 330 kbps
- 280 kbps
Now this is confusing lol
try 3 rounds of www.mobilespeedtest.com, and post back.
I only see 3G+ when using data, such as browsing or downloading from marketplace. otherwise it's 3G.
Icon or not, ultimatly what it comes down to is the speed of HSPA. The ceiling for bell seems to be around 2.5 Mbps.
Try mobilespeedtest at other location, and not much a few meters away. could just be your location.
Example( avg):
bed room avg 600 Kbps
living room near window 1.3 Mbps
Campus 2Mbps (but i know the towers are just outside)
ghaith_d said:
I'm using a new HSPA Sim card, got it last week. It's interesting that you see a 3G+ icon and I don't...hmmm
From http://mobilespeedtest.com without concurrent download:
- 307 kbps
- 462 kbps
- 500 kbps
- 512 kbps
From mobile speed test with concurrent download:
- 186 kbps
- 330 kbps
- 280 kbps
Now this is confusing lol
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try using 1MB (you can do it after the first test, under graph) this will give a more realistic picture of the speeds you can actual get at that location
From http://mobilespeedtest.com 1mb test without concurrent download:
- 1777 kbps
2mb test without concurrent download:
- 2053 kbps
3mb test without concurrent download:
- 1462 kbps
5mb test without concurrent download:
- 1668 kbps
2mb test with 2mb picture download:
- 635 kbps
1mb test with 2mb picture download:
- 1990
reaver_shadow said:
From what i've read and heard EDGE is considered 3G "for the most part".
You are right though GPRS is 2G, i'll correct that on my post
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Probably getting a bit nitpicky but EDGE isn't considered 3G by GSMA which is the authority over such things. EDGE and 3G are two distinct technologies. I don't see a definition for 2G but I've always seen that applied to both GPRS and EDGE.
http://www.gsm.org/technology/index.htm
TomH123 said:
Probably getting a bit nitpicky but EDGE isn't considered 3G by GSMA which is the authority over such things. EDGE and 3G are two distinct technologies. I don't see a definition for 2G but I've always seen that applied to both GPRS and EDGE.
Technically, isn't GPRS 1G and Edge 2G where G=Generation.
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HSPA+ Speeds working on SaskTel.
I have an unlocked Rogers Focus on the SaskTel network. We just rolled out our 3G+ network here.
I had to go into the diagnostics menu and change some settings around RRC Control.
After making the settings change, I was able to download > 6Mbit on HSPA+
Here's what I did:
##634# (diagnostics)
*#32489# - (GSM test) Shows the ciphering status and options to enable or disable it.
Pressed [Back] at the bottom.
[5] RRC(HSPA) Control
[2] Change RRC Revision
[3] Release 6(HSDPA/HSUPA)
[End]
Now I'm fast, wicked fast.
Can't claim it will work for you, but one setting can make all the difference.
I'm new to debug menus so I didn't know how to get direct into the RRC options.
If there's an easier code to get direct to this screen, please let me know.
dead_on_the_floor said:
I have an unlocked Rogers Focus on the SaskTel network. We just rolled out our 3G+ network here.
I had to go into the diagnostics menu and change some settings around RRC Control.
After making the settings change, I was able to download > 6Mbit on HSPA+
Here's what I did:
##634# (diagnostics)
*#32489# - (GSM test) Shows the ciphering status and options to enable or disable it.
Pressed [Back] at the bottom.
[5] RRC(HSPA) Control
[2] Change RRC Revision
[3] Release 6(HSDPA/HSUPA)
[End]
Now I'm fast, wicked fast.
Can't claim it will work for you, but one setting can make all the difference.
I'm new to debug menus so I didn't know how to get direct into the RRC options.
If there's an easier code to get direct to this screen, please let me know.
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where is the End button on the dialler in the last step?
also when I press 5 nothing happens. do we have to press 523 on the same screen and then which button to press to enable HSPA+?
edit - got it. I pressed the back button next to my windows key on the phone instead of the small 'back button' on the screen itself. did everything but still only 3G icon. my network has definitely upgraded to HSPA+
btw do you remember what are the default settings anyway for the focus if I want to revert back to original settings for RRC?
RRC
default is:
[2] Release 5 (HSDPA Only)
Little discovery while in London last night... it would appear that my stock Atrix from AT&T running Gingerbread 2.3.4 with baseband version N_01.77.30P is able to take advantage of O2's new "3G 900" network (AT&T would call this 4G).
I was in the *#*#4636#*#* menu last night, and it was registering as being on "HSPA" and not the normal HSDPA or UTMS I get at home all the time!
Can someone else in London on 02 please confirm?
tehrules said:
Little discovery while in London last night... it would appear that my stock Atrix from AT&T running Gingerbread 2.3.4 with baseband version N_01.77.30P is able to take advantage of O2's new "3G 900" network (AT&T would call this 4G).
I was in the *#*#4636#*#* menu last night, and it was registering as being on "HSPA" and not the normal HSDPA or UTMS I get at home all the time!
Can someone else in London on 02 please confirm?
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Ok, I seem to be mistaken, I just looked at my Nokia N900 and i'm in an area that does not have 3G...
My Nokia N900 is on O2, and it says full signal for 3G... But my Atrix says full signal for 2G, now I know the nearest mast is up a hill about a mile or 2 away... This 2G mast was down recently with road works. IT would appear that they have switched on 3G900 here, but my Atrix can't connect to it due to that band being switched off... where as the N900 supports it out of the box.
Sigh, what radio can I flash to enable UTMS/HSPA 900MHZ???
It's a hardware limitation on the AT&T atrix radio, you can't add functions to a hardware through software when it doesn't exist.
matthew5025 said:
It's a hardware limitation on the AT&T atrix radio, you can't add functions to a hardware through software when it doesn't exist.
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I was under the impression the radios used were the same in both types of Atrix...?
Ie. UK and US MB860 were the same radios?