I've ordered a USB-OTG cable (MicroUSB Male to USB-A Female) over eBay for a few €'s.
The Arc and Neo are supposed to support USB-OTG, so I couldn't resist buying one. I wonder how it'll work (and if it'll work).
I'll be testing:
- Wireless Mouse and Keyboard combo receiver
- Regular USB keyboard and mouse
- USB-stick
- Connecting my camera (Sony Alpha A200)
any other suggestions?
Hi
I've N8 USB-OTG cable , my Arc detect flash memory but not mount it
I tested USB Optical Mouse , Multi-Card Reader , Sony Flash Memory 8GB
Ambroos said:
The Arc and Neo are supposed to support USB-OTG...
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Not according to SE.
There's no mention of such a feature on either the Arc's or Neo's pages on their website.
Then why there is usb otg driver on arc.. I noticed it when browsing system apps..
Step666 said:
Not according to SE.
There's no mention of such a feature on either the Arc's or Neo's pages on their website.
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It should be supported from the 4.0 firmware onwards. The Livedock has a USB OTG port too.
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Step666 said:
Not according to SE.
There's no mention of such a feature on either the Arc's or Neo's pages on their website.
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http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/wp/20...headset-and-the-livedock™-multimedia-station/
Ambroos said:
It should be supported from the 4.0 firmware onwards. The Livedock has a USB OTG port too.
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Maybe in 2.3.4?
The LiveDock™ will work with Android™ phones running the latest version of the LiveWare™ manager, available on Android™ Market.
The LiveDock™multimedia station with Launch feature will be fully supported in Xperia™ ray, Xperia™ active, Xperia™ pro, Xperia™ mini and Xperia™ mini pro from launch.
Other 2011 Sony Ericsson Xperia™ phones e.g. Xperia™ neo and Xperia™ arc will support LiveDock™ through software updates later this year.
The software update we just got (4.0....) is the one that brings the Ray etc software to the Arc and Neo, so that should have given us USB OTG.
? is USG OTG the same as USB-Host ?
Would be cool if it was.
And yet there's zero mention of it on the pages for either the Arc or the Neo...
How strange.
Step666 said:
And yet there's zero mention of it on the pages for either the Arc or the Neo...
How strange.
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I think they don't want to mention it when their official software doesn't support it yet... It is mentioned on the Livedock pages. Perhaps the phones can't deliver enough power over USB by themselves, but the Livedock can?
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I asked about the OTG support in the kernel thread the SE guy started in the dev section. The kernel is compiled with OTG support.
However, you're probably not able to mount it because the micro-usb port on the arc isn't powered. You'd need an external power source I believe to make it work...
Mach1Chris said:
I asked about the OTG support in the kernel thread the SE guy started in the dev section. The kernel is compiled with OTG support.
However, you're probably not able to mount it because the micro-usb port on the arc isn't powered. You'd need an external power source I believe to make it work...
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as you can see in the picture there is noting wrong with power , at least not with mouse
I think SE disabled this capability and only LiveDock works
Can't help you there... but in their reply in the kernel thread they said the pre-loaded drivers are very limited so maybe it's something to do with that...
i wonder if anyone has tried self-powered usb accessory... only check if it gets detected on device...
say a powered external usb-hdd...
DooMLoRD said:
i wonder if anyone has tried self-powered usb accessory... only check if it gets detected on device...
say a powered external usb-hdd...
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Or better yet, a powered USB hub. Which could then be used to power/connect a whole host of usb devices.
I will buy a OTG cable ( N8 OTG ) and test with USB 16GB
ok my adapter is here. i tested an usbstick. its shown in livewaremanager but not mounted
any news/ideas on this ?
Guys, I have an Arc S and no devices whatsoever get power from my phone. I am on DooMKernel v16 which supports USB OTG now, and i was with stock, but my device just doesn't power up external devices. I tested 2 USB OTG cables. Can any one with Arc S can tell me if you can get any devices powered and on what ROM/Kernel ?
Thanks
I tested a wireless keyboard and mouse by a4tech and they worked like a charm i just plugged the reciever in the usb on my phone and it instantly detedted my keyboard and mouse.I also tried with a normal usb mouse and it detected it without problems but when i tried to plug any of my usb memmory sticks i couldnt recognize any of them.About usb powered devices i hoocked up a usb powered speakers by logitech and worked like a charm as well http://www.logitech.com/en-us/speakers-audio/home-pc-speakers/devices/8177 i didnt test how many hours will the battery support them but for 20 mins it didnt get drained more then ussual
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Feel desperate that your XPERIA X1 don't have TV-Out?
To make your X1 act as USB host, it will need a hardware modification and some patches. Coming soon.
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what about this ??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480899
finally, someone really smart did it waiting...
one more question, it works with mini usb tv-out cable?
Erikazz said:
finally, someone really smart did it waiting...
one more question, it works with mini usb tv-out cable?
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It seems that it uses 3.5mm headphone output,cause on mini usb are no cable attached
Mr.D - S said:
what about this ??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480899
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Believe me it will not be enough, I have to change a different USB Port and a little panel modification. Huh? Finally it's working but very slow.
kew1701 said:
It seems that it uses 3.5mm headphone output,cause on mini usb are no cable attached
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Absolutely correct. I try Nokia TV Out Cable,
How is that possible, i thought the X1 doesnt have the hardware for TV-out?
nurps said:
How is that possible, i thought the X1 doesnt have the hardware for TV-out?
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Our msm7200A/7201A support TV-Out, maybe HTC (that build our kovsky aka xperia x1) didn't want to give SE an advantage against his phone and did not connected 35mm to video out
We will need soldering? I love soldering
Ow what are you doin' so it can work, Big Bang Holic?
How could you do that??? Tell us please....hehehe...
any news?
i start to think, that tv-out still impassible on xperia x1
Erikazz said:
i start to think, that tv-out still impassible on xperia x1
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Yeah, the OP hasn't been here for over 2 weeks now.
And what exactly would be the purpose of TV out? The Movies that can be played smoothly on an Xperia X1 are of far to low quality to watch them on a tv screen. And for everything else I don't see the point.
I have done my research and can't seem to find a solid answer, has anyone had the chance to test one, or recieved an official response from Sony? Cheers
Nope, consumer versions of the Xperia Play do not support HDMI out, even on the LiveDock.
The only Xperia Play phones that support HDMI out are dev phones.
The current dock (DK300) has no HDMI out support but I believe there is a new dock coming sometime soon that will support it.
zerojay said:
The current dock (DK300) has no HDMI out support but I believe there is a new dock coming sometime soon that will support it.
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I think that's the one he's asking about ( the new one)
Read this post there's a little info on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17107876&postcount=25
It comes from this trhread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1234259
Regards Dousan...
yep that's the one! from the youtube videos it seems to just use the micro usb port for everything (including tv-out functionality) so I can't see why it wouldn't work, but I haven't found any confirmation that it does...
Dousan said:
I think that's the one he's asking about ( the new one)
Read this post there's a little info on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17107876&postcount=25
It comes from this trhread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1234259
Regards Dousan...
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@ dousan. As you can see in this video. It defo only uses the USB port for HDMI out. Not the HDMI port like we was talking about in that other thread. The HDMI port on the Arc is on the top like the power button on the play. The dock has the HDMI port on the back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhr6AuPLwmU&feature=related
But that is not how it connects to HDMI. The dock does not support HDMI. It is the phone hardware.
As in the other thread there are photos of how they connected it to the TV.
The USB device connects to the device, the charger connects to the device and uses that same cable. The then connect to the HDMI on the TV via the HDMI port on the phone.
The Dock is not an all in one solution.
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But that is not how it connects to HDMI. The dock does not support HDMI. It is the phone hardware.
As in the other thread there are photos of how they connected it to the TV.
The USB device connects to the device, the charger connects to the device and uses that same cable. The then connect to the HDMI on the TV via the HDMI port on the phone.
The Dock is not an all in one solution.
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Watch the video, you can clearly see the USB and HDMI port on the back of the dock
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subcu1ture said:
But that is not how it connects to HDMI. The dock does not support HDMI. It is the phone hardware.
As in the other thread there are photos of how they connected it to the TV.
The USB device connects to the device, the charger connects to the device and uses that same cable. The then connect to the HDMI on the TV via the HDMI port on the phone.
The Dock is not an all in one solution.
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Do you think there's a way to spoof the phone to bypass the 'buffer' the dock creates? I don't see why SE didn't just put the hdmi port on the PLAY.
AndroHero said:
Watch the video, you can clearly see the USB and HDMI port on the back of the dock
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Infact to be honest. I can not tell if that is a USB or HDMI port on the back of the dock. lol
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You are wrong.
That is a standard usb connection and a micro usb connection and that is not how the phone connects to the TV.
Watch the 2.3.4 Xperia software update video.
>_< This is what i was trying to explain the whole time in the other thread and now to know that you thought that was an HDMI out port means you didn't even follow the pictures I posted.
Another video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHRgdEA__LA
This has been discussed before on the official Sony Ericsson forums. The consumer release Xperia Play does not and will not have HDMI out capabilities with or without the LiveDock.
hairdewx said:
This has been discussed before on the official Sony Ericsson forums. The consumer release Xperia Play does not and will not have HDMI out capabilities with or without the LiveDock.
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Thanks, so this has been officially confirmed? Does this phone use a different type of micro usb port to the other xperia phones then? Is it a hardware or software limitation (ie could a hack be produced)?
hairdewx said:
This has been discussed before on the official Sony Ericsson forums. The consumer release Xperia Play does not and will not have HDMI out capabilities with or without the LiveDock.
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Yes but recently the same marketing division said :
I can confirm that the following is available for the Xperia Play based on your question's once the update has been released.
Enhanced camera capabilities from Sony including 3D sweep panorama
The software upgrade enables consumers to turn their Xperia smartphone into a mini-mobile PC by connecting USB peripherals (mouse, keyboard or game controller) to Sony Ericsson LiveDock™ multimedia station. Connect the smartphone to a TV via HDMI to get a big screen experience
I can also advise that there are currently no plans for HD 720p recording for the Xperia Play.
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Which has added to the confusion.
crimsonnight said:
Thanks, so this has been officially confirmed? Does this phone use a different type of micro usb port to the other xperia phones then? Is it a hardware or software limitation (ie could a hack be produced)?
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It's a hardware limitation, they took it out of the specifications before release.
The LiveDock would basically act as a pass-through, not a hardware solution.
It is possible to get video through the USB port, but at very low refresh rates, like 1 frame per second.
ASM is one tool:
http://code.google.com/p/android-screen-monitor/
And there are other remote desktop applications that can produce video out through USB with slow refresh rates.
subcu1ture said:
You are wrong.
That is a standard usb connection and a micro usb connection and that is not how the phone connects to the TV.
Watch the 2.3.4 Xperia software update video.
>_< This is what i was trying to explain the whole time in the other thread and now to know that you thought that was an HDMI out port means you didn't even follow the pictures I posted.
Another video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHRgdEA__LA
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Calm down. It's no big deal. I did follow your pictures but wondered if there was another way to connect. As i thought some of the other xperia devices supported by the dock didn't have HDMI out. I now concede defeat. Guess i'll have to dig out my PS1 to play FF7 on my TV
The thing that catches my eye is that he clearly states it's for the play but the section about hdmi and USB peripherals it only says xperia smartphone's, not xperia play? That's confusing me.
Regards Dousan...
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The thing that catches my eye is that he clearly states it's for the play but the section about hdmi and USB peripherals it only says xperia smartphone's, not xperia play? That's confusing me.
Regards Dousan...
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It's just a script they get given to read out. Thats why. The people sony employ usually know little about the products there ment to be supporting
What i find weird is that in the service menu via - *#*#7378423#*#*
There is options to turn HDMI on or off and also test it.
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What i find weird is that in the service menu via - *#*#7378423#*#*
There is options to turn HDMI on or off and also test it.
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Yeah but it also has Irda test in it, so I imagine this tests are standard, and not especially designed for the Play.
As some of you may well know.. The Iphone 4 very well adapts to connecting to a TV set using its 30-pin connector one side and AV plugs at the other cable. I was just thinking....
If HDMI is not supported... Would we have an easier way into actually importing some kind of software or some mod into the kernal itself?
Do we even have AV- Mini-USB cable available to our disposal?
albanezi said:
As some of you may well know.. The Iphone 4 very well adapts to connecting to a TV set using its 30-pin connector one side and AV plugs at the other cable. I was just thinking....
If HDMI is not supported... Would we have an easier way into actually importing some kind of software or some mod into the kernal itself?
Do we even have AV- Mini-USB cable available to our disposal?
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Before anything like that could be used, You would need to get the play into USB host mode
Is that something that I.C.S could present us?
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Is that something that I.C.S could present us?
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No, you'll need SE to include it in their kernel/kernel source for our play or you'll need some devoted devs to port it from the Arc.
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Is there any way to have the usb host functionality on our beloved atrix with a custom rom? i read that ics will have it, is it true?
Have a Mutimedia dock (the more expensive one) or a webtop? See the USB ports? Atrix supports USB OTG as standard with docks BUT wothout a gock, you need a powered OTG cable
Elwood_It said:
Is there any way to have the usb host functionality on our beloved atrix with a custom rom? i read that ics will have it, is it true?
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ICS is suppose to have the usb host functionality. I watched the keynote and they hooked the SGN up to a treadmill and played a game lol.
We have seen that on Macbook air 1 USB type C port has been utilized not just for charging but also being used as display port as well using an external adapter.
Will Nexus 6P/5X have such functionality using an additional adapter or directly may be to connect to HDMI TVs or connect OTG drives?
No. Disabled.
OTG should work, HDMI will not. I'm interested to see if the Pixel C has HDMI enabled. I would expect it to.
lensgrabber said:
OTG should work, HDMI will not. I'm interested to see if the Pixel C has HDMI enabled. I would expect it to.
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It does, and Google even sell a C-HDMI adaptor for that (only listed in the 'works with Pixel' section, though - not the Nexus sections).
Otg works... They confirmed and sell it on the store
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Thanks guys for your responses.. but why would they disable HDMI?
ragavbpl said:
Thanks guys for your responses.. but why would they disable HDMI?
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I guess because of Chromecast
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DaveHTC200 said:
I guess because of Chromecast
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I'd be curious if we could re-enable it through root, or if it's a hardware limitation.
ragavbpl said:
Thanks guys for your responses.. but why would they disable HDMI?
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It's not "disabled", just N6P doesn't have USB Type-C 3.1.
Could you please explain more?
In the Type-C spec (.zip found here http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/) it defines what pins and wires are used for what. In a Type-C port or cable there are 2 dedicated pins/wires for USB 2.0. For USB 3.1 communications there are dedicated shielded twisted pair wires used for high speed communication. To support Display Port/HDMI, the Type-C port switches the use of those high-speed data wires over to that kind of output. (I think they called this alternate mode.) Anyway, the Nexus devices only support the USB 2.0 mode. It is unclear to me which of these is the case, but it basically means that either the USB controller in the phone can't support it, or the physical pins in the port are missing to connect and use those high speed wires. (Or both.)
It is possible it is just disabled in software, but that doesn't quite make sense to me. Why include all the hardware you need to enable USB 3.1 speeds, HDMI output, and a slew of other features such as USB-PD... But simply choose not to enable them? Seems far more likely to me that the lower cost of the USB 2.0 only mode (less complex controller and port) were used instead.
Hope that helps.