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i have been searching for the iphone touch scroll and media player for the hermes 8525 phone. is there anyone working on this? also is there anyway to make the touch screen to a multi tocuh screen like the iphone.
The multi touch screen is totally different hardware, although it would be cool if there was a way...
delude said:
The multi touch screen is totally different hardware, although it would be cool if there was a way...
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i thought so but i would think if you hack the dll file maybe there is a way to make it read multi times i dont know i am not an expert on hardware or software hacking.
I thought I heard somewhere that there might be someone working on doing something like that. given hardware constraints, it wouldn't be perfect. It would detect the space between the fingers as being pressed as well (I'm assuming), e.g. if you have fingers on the screen like this:
__........__
|__|.....|__|
it would see this:
_________
|_________|
So it would have to figure out by the shape of it where your fingers really are.
Still, I hope someone does. Multitouch would be very nice...
EDIT: due to the restrictiveness of this forum, just imagine that the periods in my ASCII art above dont exist.
That would be amazing, and something i would definately pay for. Looks like it would be like the drag box on a PC desktop. If you put two fingers on then it could drag things or select the space within.
jackbnymbl said:
I thought I heard somewhere that there might be someone working on doing something like that. given hardware constraints, it wouldn't be perfect. It would detect the space between the fingers as being pressed as well (I'm assuming), e.g. if you have fingers on the screen like this:
__........__
|__|.....|__|
it would see this:
_________
|_________|
So it would have to figure out by the shape of it where your fingers really are.
Still, I hope someone does. Multitouch would be very nice...
EDIT: due to the restrictiveness of this forum, just imagine that the periods in my ASCII art above dont exist.
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Detecting the space between fingers would only be possible with double touch screens one on top of the other. To simulate it on the present hardware would require low-level programming to continuously scan the screen within milliseconds so that it could detect minute differences of whichever finger came in contact first. It will not detect it if both fingers pressed on the screen at exactly the same time. Theoretically it should be possible to do but that would really slow down the system just to do it that way.
for multi touch, i'm not sure how it would be useful but i was thinking, maybe it somehow "remembers" a first click, then that second click is processed. for example, the iphone zooming feature. a single click, then a second, separate clickanddrag to zoom in and out
Well, many of the features can actually be done without requiring multi touch. For example, as the screen of the phone small enough, you can actually assigning area in the viewing screen to be doing something specific. For example, on my notebook touch pad, I can assign part of the right portion to do a scroll function. Hence, it is possible to implement the dynamic zoom function on a WM (non-multi touch device) by assigning (say) right hand area to do a zooming. It wont be as cool though.
would it still be cooler than a generic scroll bar? i like to think so.
Hello everyone,
I'd like to buy a X1 but i'm hesitating with the future TOUCH HD ...
My question is : "Could you give me some arguments to prefer a hardware keyboard, instead of a fullscreen soft keyboard such as the SPB full screen Keyboard"
I'm a SonyErricson Fan, but the fact is i have not so many arguments to prefer hardware keyboard instead of a soft one on a huge screen like the one of the the HTC TOUCH HD (3,8 Inches)...
Maybe you'll have some very good arguments...
Thanks very much.
zoltan_cs said:
Hello everyone,
I'd like to buy a X1 but i'm hesitating with the future TOUCH HD ...
My question is : "Could you give me some arguments to prefer a hardware keyboard, instead of a fullscreen soft keyboard such as the SPB full screen Keyboard"
I'm a SonyErricson Fan, but the fact is i have not so many arguments to prefer hardware keyboard instead of a soft one on a huge screen like the one of the the HTC TOUCH HD (3,8 Inches)...
Maybe you'll have some very good arguments...
Thanks very much.
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1. god forbid that you get into an accident and cant see, you are in a better position with a tactile keyboard where you can feel what keys you are pressing.
2. Another point is that in my opinion with the tactile keyboard they typing is much much more accurate and faster than on screen.
3. Another with 700 and 1000 dollar phones I try to minimize my screen contact as much as possible just out of personal preference.
4. Just having the option to use the tactile keyboard is a plus ... i sorta dont like having one option.
One advantage of a hardware keyboard is that you have more screen real estate to use when entering text, plus typing on a windows mobile touchscreen keyboard without a stylus is asking for trouble.
The X1's keyboard is very good.
hutchy69 said:
One advantage of a hardware keyboard is that you have more screen real estate to use when entering text, plus typing on a windows mobile touchscreen keyboard without a stylus is asking for trouble.
The X1's keyboard is very good.
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But the Touch Pro´s is even better
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But the Touch Pro´s is even better
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But screen resultion is lower, X1 has more hardware buttons (I am using App Button Plus to have single and double click) and last but not least the battery on X1 is much better according to the information on this forum.
Downside:
X1 has a "frame screen", Touch Pro is "frameless"
Because of the hardware buttons and the battery I am in favour of the X1
The hardware keyboard is for me not the key decicion maker
Claus
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Downside:
X1 has a "frame screen", Touch Pro is "frameless"
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? please explain
He means that the X1 has a recessed screen (makes the edges difficult to touch with your fingers/can be a dust trap/protects the screen) whilst the Touch Pro's screen is flush with the case (making edges easy to touch and alleviating the dust problem but leaving the screen Vulnerable to scratches).
ah ok, he means "recessed" thank you for clarification
BuddyLee said:
1. god forbid that you get into an accident and cant see, you are in a better position with a tactile keyboard where you can feel what keys you are pressing.
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LOL. BuddyLee: this is so funny.
BuddyLee said:
2. Another point is that in my opinion with the tactile keyboard they typing is much much more accurate and faster than on screen.
4. Just having the option to use the tactile keyboard is a plus ... i sorta dont like having one option.
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Thanks for the answer.
Could someone else give me his/her opinion on theses points... i ask because i really have no idea if it's really much faster to have a hardware keyboard.
Thanks a lot for your responses.
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LOL. BuddyLee: this is so funny.
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But so true my friend, so true
dingolino said:
Downside:
X1 has a "frame screen", Touch Pro is "frameless"
Claus
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Isn't that a good thing? Not that easy to get unesesary scratches?
zoltan_cs said:
Hello everyone,
I'd like to buy a X1 but i'm hesitating with the future TOUCH HD ...
My question is : "Could you give me some arguments to prefer a hardware keyboard, instead of a fullscreen soft keyboard such as the SPB full screen Keyboard"
I'm a SonyErricson Fan, but the fact is i have not so many arguments to prefer hardware keyboard instead of a soft one on a huge screen like the one of the the HTC TOUCH HD (3,8 Inches)...
Maybe you'll have some very good arguments...
Thanks very much.
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Hi Zoltan_cs,
back to a year ago or so it didn't matter most people used the phones
just for that: To call. Not any more. Phones are closing the gap with
the laptop. And the Xperia is one the leaders of the pack.
Soon you will be involved with a lot of practical applications that
need heavy data entry and the keyboard gives you 40 to 60 keys
to do it with efficiency.
As for a touch keyboard to be REALLY efficent the screen needs to be
larger and that point it will be too bulky to carry, and even then you
lose a lot of screen for your documents.
So by now you can guess that I want a laptop on my shirt pocket
but with hardware keyboard.
As for the xperia Keyboard, in a small space it has the biggers keys
and the more space between the keys than any othe comparable
phone. Besides the layout of the keys is like in a real keyboard.
The PRO for example has an square checkerborad layout with small
keys very close together and with 5 rows i get lost finding a key.
Some say the keys of the PRO have a better click than the Xperia.
Personally, the pros of the Xperia weight for me more than the cons.
NOTE: If you only make call, text msg and listen to music.
You don't n eed a hardware keyboard.
I'm just curious of one thing ...
How fast is it to type a full A4 page on the X1 (or phones with hardware keyboard) instead of a laptop or a Desktop PC ?
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Hi Zoltan_cs,
back to a year ago or so it didn't matter most people used the phones
just for that: To call. Not any more. Phones are closing the gap with
the laptop. And the Xperia is one the leaders of the pack.
Soon you will be involved with a lot of practical applications that
need heavy data entry and the keyboard gives you 40 to 60 keys
to do it with efficiency.
As for a touch keyboard to be REALLY efficent the screen needs to be
larger and that point it will be too bulky to carry, and even then you
lose a lot of screen for your documents.
So by now you can guess that I want a laptop on my shirt pocket
but with hardware keyboard.
As for the xperia Keyboard, in a small space it has the biggers keys
and the more space between the keys than any othe comparable
phone. Besides the layout of the keys is like in a real keyboard.
The PRO for example has an square checkerborad layout with small
keys very close together and with 5 rows i get lost finding a key.
Some say the keys of the PRO have a better click than the Xperia.
Personally, the pros of the Xperia weight for me more than the cons.
NOTE: If you only make call, text msg and listen to music.
You don't n eed a hardware keyboard.
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i'd rather have the larger screen and use a BT keyboard when i need to enter lots of data with my phone...
Zoltan_cs
Dude, I am exactly in the same situation as you are Waiting for the 3rd of november to actually GO TO THE STORES AND TRY BOTH OF THEM!
A friend of mine has an X1 and as I can mention, the screen is very scratch-sensitive, at least more than one of Diamond or T-Pro. The plastic coating on the screen is not that "bulletproof" and a first feeling I get is being-afraid-to-scratch-it-with-my-nails. Xperia-users, what do you say?
I am a guy and I have my thumb and little finger a little long and I'd be damned if I were to use my xperia without any screen protection. Worse yet if you are asked by someone to show them the phone and they rough up the xperia. Someone would have to die
Which is why ill use the keyboard if I have to and the screen when it is necessary.
My reasons:
I prefer my phone to be a bit fatter but smaller in the other dimensions.
Soft keyboard uses screen space.
Tactile feedback. I find it easier to find the right letter n the first try. I am having less typing errors now that I'm using a hardware keyboard. I admit I never tried an iPhone but from seeing people using it I wouldn't like to. I would like to try a BlackBerry Storm though.
Playing action games (console emulators) is a lot easier.
And of course you can still choose to use the soft keyboard in those cases where you prefer to.
Hello El filou
I see that you are from belgium ... in fact i'm french but i work and live in Belgium...
Thank you for your post these arguments seem to be very clear.
A question : For emulation game ? do you think it will be easy with the Xperia hardware keyboard to play these games without directional keys ?
thanks
A few emulators allow to map keys to console buttons. You can map letters on the hardware keyboard, which has the advantage of better mimicking a console pad layout more than using the dpad on the right.
Console emulators migt be considered warez by the board admins so I won't discuss this much further.
And if it doesn't work, I hope some nice developer will make an emulator panel.
Guys - great information in the Blackstone forum - wow! I have been following this device for a while, and may want to take the plunge on it (after being disappointed with the Diamond and the Fuze). But - I really need to know how the typing is on this thing? I have read some negative and positive comments on this and other Forums, and I would love to get some opinions. I am a user of Nokia, BlackBerry and the iPhone (cell-phone crack addict), and even though I don't type a book on my phone each day, I do answer about 30 texts and 20 emails per day (1 to 3 sentence responses), and I want to make sure I will not struggle with the typing on this box. I crank on my various Nokia's and my iPhone (BlackBerry goes without saying) - and I don't want to slow down drastically with this device.
Could anyone give me some "real world" experience? I could see myself using the keyboard in both Portrait and Landscape mode - depending on what I was doing at the time.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Adam
I find it remarkably well, after getting used to typing instead of writing (I come from PalmOS). Still, my advice is go to a phone shop and try for yourself to see if your fingers aren't too fat
But at least allow for the fact that the first time typing on a touchscreen is going to feel wierd and that you will improve.
I find it really good (coming from the HTC Touch which was sooo small and a pain even when using the stylus). Typing fast its fairly accurate and although you can tweak it to write in landscape I generally type in portrait. I have spent a fair amount of time with the iphone too and although not directly comparative it really is a fairly close call.
(oh and i have fat fingers )
I have had my HD for about 3 weeks now. I don't type that often on it, but I can tell I am getting better. I usually make about one mistake per sentence, but I must say, that I type somewhat slow to avoid making mistakes.
I also see a pattern of mistakes, that show I probably need to practice accuracy with my fingers. For example I often type: W instead of E, S instead of A, X instead of C. All these are left hand keys, so I guess my right hand is better. My right hand sometimes types the space bar instead of B or N in portrait mode.
In landscape mode I make fewer mistakes. However, you will need third-party software to rotate the keyboard in messaging applications.
One BIG annoying thing in landscape mode when you are writing - say, a text message - is that the "Send" button is directly below the "z" and "x" keys (or Y and X in German keyboard). It has happened to me that I want to type one of those letters and I accidentally hit Send - and away goes the unfinished message!! This does not happen in portrait mode because there are other keys (CapsLock, D-pad etc) above the Send button.
This is my first touch-screen phone, so I can't compare it to others.
All in all, I am pleased with the keyboard, and I can see that I am improving. That leads me to believe that it is really just a matter of practice. But, for you it might be different since you are used to other phones. It would be best if you can test one at a store (unless you live in the U.S.).
Here are 2 youtube videos with reviews on the HD keyboard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh7YJ-upe1s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st7ivblVZwY
I came from the Touch (Elf) to the HD. The extra space on the screen means typing with the full Qwerty keyboard is much easier with fingers. I'm quicker with my finger tip than I am with the stylus, whereas the opposite was true with the Elf. I usually use the portrait screen mode and I like the layout of the keyboard in this mode.
On my Elf I installed PocketCM Keyboard which had the auto-correct feature similar to the keyboard of the iPhone. I miss this feature with my HD's keyboard although I'm making fewer mistakes even without this. The auto-correct meant that I could even type one-handed on the Elf but the bigger screen on the HD makes one-handed typing difficult.
But I agree that you should try the keyboard yourself before deciding.
You've got a fair few different styles with third aprty keyboards - something feature packed like touchpal (check youtube for examples), or resco/spb. Should be possible to customise it to suit your preferences.
Personally I like landscape mode, bashing away with both thumbs. The huge screen means the key sizes are quite practical.
Terrific feedback everyone - thanks! I saw a few videos just now, and it appears that you can crank with T9 or mini-QWERTY pretty well, but the full QWERTY in portrait looked a bit harder to use....maybe in Landscape it will be a bit easier?
No Mobile shops near me on Long Island, NY to test this out in-person, so I'm going to have to "wing it" and place the order if I decide on the HD.
Cheers.
I am having some problems with it because I come from a QVGA 2.8" and the WVGA 3.8" is really huge but considering that you have used an iPhone, the transition should be a lot smoother for you.
I am definitely getting the hang of it and improving by the day so I would say that typing is really great on it.
I actually switch a lot between built-in compact and full qwerty boards and leave T9 off. Anybody actually use any of the other built-ins, like the full keyboard etc?
adamzeit said:
....maybe in Landscape it will be a bit easier?
No Mobile shops near me on Long Island, NY to test this out in-person, so I'm going to have to "wing it" and place the order if I decide on the HD.
Cheers.
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1. yes, landscape is easier (except for the send button issue I mentioned)
2. If you wing it - I don't think you'll be disappointed. Especially if you have been looking into it and know the pros and cons discussed in this forum. (Mostly pros)
One minor glitch I found using qwerty keyboard in landscape (using Gyrator2) is the displacement of the dot with the comma, so when you want to type one you have to click on the other and viceversa. This doesn't happen in portrait
Great - feedback - thanks for the quick replies everyone. I decided to indeed "wing it" - and I should have this bad-boy in my hands tomorrow morning!
I'll continue scrolling through the WiKi and such, but besides installing Gyrator2, another other suggestions for my "out of the box" approach?
Thanks!
I used to love the physical keyboard on the TyTn II (Kaiser) I had as it was the closest thing to a full size qwerty keyboard. Made typing a joy. I was weary to abandon a keyboard for strictly virtual keyboard. So I went to the local shop, tried typing and did not like it. I decided to wait till the HD Pro comes (or similar) but that beautifully large, high resolution screen kept bringing me back. I then decided to try it in landscape mode. I sadly found out that HTC did not provide that option, which lead me to this very wonderful forum for help. I found out that you could edit the registry to bring the option of rotating to landscape. I did that at the shop and then unfortunately found out the next fall, it would not remain in landscape because of TF3D home screen and the dialer. I did not hesitate about turning off TF3d because I u se SPB apps (almost all of them collectively on the home screen) but the dialer menu/screen , when accessed - to dial a number for example, would retard the screen back to portrait which made owning it frustrating. Thats till I found out that changing from the HTC dialer to the standard/default WM dialer would allow me to keep it in landscape. Apparently HTC designed thier dialer in portrait mode, which is restricted from rotating. I did eventually loose the HTC dialer (the WM dialer is not that nice) but the large screen, faster processor outweighed the dialer loss.
Typing in landscape mode using full qwerty keyboard is actually a bit easier but you have to get used to the fact that you will not get a physical response. You know , when you press the button and it goes back up. Other than this its not problem.
I do miss the shortcuts provided by the TyTn II keyboard. Like the Fn + ok turns on wifi, Fn+ -> key opens up the explorer window.
CorruptedSanity said:
Typing in landscape mode using full qwerty keyboard is actually a bit easier but you have to get used to the fact that you will not get a physical response.
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Look for "TouchResponse". This will make your phone vibrating by touching the screen.
johnpatcher said:
Look for "TouchResponse". This will make your phone vibrating by touching the screen.
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Oh My God man! I thank you infinitely!!!!!!!!!!
The little vibes gave me that "TyTn II keyboard" sensation I missed so much. Now I feel 100 times more comfortable looking at the text when typing rather watching whether I tapped the correct key on the keyboard.
Thanks to the generous creator of the app too.
The best part is that you can customize how intense the vibrations are.
Does "TouchResponse" make it vibrate only on the keyboard or does it vibrate in any and every application every time you touch the screen?
EDIT: By the way, can someone provide a link to TouchResponse. I can't seem to find it via search.
To have truly easy typing with your THUMB, use Tengo Thumb. It works like the T9 version of COMPACT QWERTY, except the keys are grouped into six areas instead of 12. Precision is not needed. When you need to type words not in the dictionary, use non-predictive typing with either finger nail or stylus to precisely touch the specific key within the large area.
Chris Cross said:
Does "TouchResponse" make it vibrate only on the keyboard or does it vibrate in any and every application every time you touch the screen?
EDIT: By the way, can someone provide a link to TouchResponse. I can't seem to find it via search.
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http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2008/12/12/touchresponse-022-vibrate-on-touch-for-windows-mobile.html
scroll down to the bottom.....
adamzeit said:
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2008/12/12/touchresponse-022-vibrate-on-touch-for-windows-mobile.html
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A-ha!! Thank you!
I tried the Blackberry Storm and the iPhone before switching to the Touch HD using SPB keyboard - having come from Sony Ericsson P series phones before that.
With SPB keyboard I can honestly say that I make as few mistakes as I do when typing on my laptop QWERTY. It's terrific. And I don't mean the auto-correction feature a la iPhone. This just isn't necessary as my accuracy is first rate on the huge keyboard.
When I got the 'phone I immediatly downloaded gyrator to have access to a landscape keyboard but I really don't need it. My accuracy is spot on in portrait.
We all know that multitouch is capable on the popular G1 and myTouch. Now I was wondering if adding such a feature onto the virtual keyboard is a can-do. All for the sake of exponentially increasing text insertion speed.
I don't see a reason to use multitouch for text input. What should happen if you enter 2 keys at the same time?
MarcLandis said:
I don't see a reason to use multitouch for text input. What should happen if you enter 2 keys at the same time?
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the point of multi-touch on the vk is to increase the speed of texting meaning u can press a key directly after another without fear of the keys not registering. it really helps when holding the phone sideways because when text i start texting too fast and keys dont register correctly. thats y im still partial to the hard keyboard.
MarcLandis said:
I don't see a reason to use multitouch for text input. What should happen if you enter 2 keys at the same time?
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The reason for multi-touch is simple... take a look at the iPhone, if you hit one key and then before releasing it hit another it registers both hits. So that way you can type much quicker! Try this on the android/htc/better keyboards and you'll see that if you hit two keys at the same time, it will register a key that is almost always half-way in between the two.
However, I think Google is having a hard-time coding for not simultaneous taps but for timing. Meaning that if you hit both the 'K' and the 'N' keys at the same time while trying to type the word 'KNOW', the software not only has to recognize that 2 keys were hit; but has to resolve which one was hit first or was likely meant to be hit first. So that way, it can say
"hey, he hit the 'K' and the 'N' at virtually the same time; BUT, because he hit the 'K' .00002 seconds before the 'N' I'll put register and display the 'K' before the 'N'"
Multi-touch in the browser is probably not easy to code for but it certainly is much easier than the keyboard because pinching only requires the software to recognize that two fingers are on the screen, not that one was there before the other.
But, I think Google needs to work on the usability of the keyboard first. The screen-size on the magic and keyboard might restrict them somewhat but damn the virtual keyboard layout is verry bad... I always hit the "M" key when trying to hit the "DELETE" key.. And why not auto-popup the keyboard when you enter messaging? and why is there the "smiley" key in messaging? WASTE OF SPACE?!?
I thought the HTC keyboard sorta-of had multi-touch support, no?
How does one "sorta" have multi-touch support?
I would love to see this. My biggest problem is not registering a space in between words because I hit it too quickly and then the autocorrect can't fix the issue. Maybe a 3rd party keyboard developer would be interested in incorporating this into their app?
I believe better keyboard has multi touch.
exile20 said:
I believe better keyboard has multi touch.
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It does not, unfortunately.
TonyDeez said:
How does one "sorta" have multi-touch support?
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I think I only got it working with the bottom row of keys.
I can't fathom how one would get the Dream/Magic (G1/myTouch3G) to have a fully functional multitouch keyboard. The multitouch capacity of these devices is hackish to say the least; if the horizontal or vertical coordinates of the touched points coincide to within a rather wide range (comparatively speaking) then the device is incapable of registering more than one touch -- and it wouldn't necessarily be /either/ of the points originally touched.
That would seem to me to be a game-breaker.
Unless I misunderstand? Perhaps the Droid or Cliq are different.
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The multitouch capacity of these devices is hackish to say the least; if the horizontal or vertical coordinates of the touched points coincide to within a rather wide range (comparatively speaking) then the device is incapable of registering more than one touch -- and it wouldn't necessarily be /either/ of the points originally touched.
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Reading this got me curious so I went back to Luke Hutchison's blog posts on the matter and played around with his multitouch demo apps here and it looks like there are indeed problems. I then found this post which explains his observations on the matter.
Even with these limitations, though, it's hard to say if there would be much of an issue. I think this "rather wide range" you speak of is small enough. The QWERTY keyboard layout was designed to spread out keys to minimize "jams" of neighboring keys. This works in our favor, making the distance between possible close-to-simultaneous keypresses rather large on average. If I play with the virtual keyboard a little bit, I notice that if my fingers are hitting neighboring keys I don't have problems with simultaneous presses because I have to move my first finger out of the way to make room for the second. I do have unusually large fingers, but give it a try yourself.
Who knows though...it may indeed be too inaccurate.
Also, it looks like there's a similar thread to this one over here.
The trouble, as I understand it, is that you could not touch two points on the same horizontal "read" line of the device, at the same time. You could probably do top row and bottom row as multitouch, but not middle row and anything else. (Assuming three rows total.)
It's not just about touching two keys simultaneously but that if the same capacitors are triggered horizontally, then the device will read this as one -- confused -- input. And if the same capacitors are triggered horizontally, the same will occur.
It is my understanding that the Motorola Milestone's Eclair keyboard is multi-touch. Can anyone confirm that?
i can conform that there is a multi-touch keyboard. Ive actually tested it out. They rebuild the keyboard and made capable of it. I think its called HTC VK keyboard. And yes i can press 2 keys at the same time too.
I have a t mobile Touch pro 2, love the keyboard but i would rather go back to android. Its almost new if anyone is interested let me know in a pm. thanks.
If I'm not mistaken, the HTC Keyboard on the hero has multitouch.
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If I'm not mistaken, the HTC Keyboard on the hero has multitouch.
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sorry but you are mistaken. the hero does not even have real multitouch in the driver. one finger gives a small dot, while a second finger would increase the dot size that is reported from the driver, the bigger the distance between fingers the bigger the dot size. this way the pinch-to-zoom works, but it does not actually detect a second touch.
you can see this with various application that show the touch graphically, for example cracked screen or steamy window.
Then I stand corrected. Just relaying something I heard. But doesn't mulititouch have to be written into the program? Like how Picsay had multitouch on the Droid whereas other apps didn't? Just throwing things out there.
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sorry but you are mistaken. the hero does not even have real multitouch in the driver. one finger gives a small dot, while a second finger would increase the dot size that is reported from the driver, the bigger the distance between fingers the bigger the dot size. this way the pinch-to-zoom works, but it does not actually detect a second touch.
you can see this with various application that show the touch graphically, for example cracked screen or steamy window.
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Dunno about the Hero, but the Eris definitely does have it.
Also- multitouch DOES have to be coded into the application. The driver isn't important at all if the application itself only supports one input.
Interesting new tweet by cyanogen:
@paracycle multitouch is built into keyboardview on eclair. i've backported this for the next CM-4.2 release.
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What is the biggest keyboard which can be installed on the HTC HD2? I have tried swype and the standard keyboard that comes with the phone, but I tend to be hitting the key next door at times resulting in me taking longer than I would like to send a simple text.
I haven't seen an Iphone keyboard before but I have not heard anyone mentioning the difficulties with the typing on that phone, I could be wrong of course.
I need some decent size keys to press, it wouldn't of been to bad if we had a stylus in the phone.
Trust me, the Iphone keyboard is harder to use.
I always miss the buttons on the standard keyboard, but is it really a problem?
XT9 corrects me 98% of the time.
And with swype its not a problem at all...
You are swyping the keyboard, right? Because its almost impossible to press the buttons.
Maybe my damn fingers are just too big, with swype I find myself rolling my finger to see if I'm swiping the right key or the one beside it. Oh well let's see how it goes.
Cheers
Then you could consider the possibility to move the keyboard on the horizontal way, using software as girator, then if you use both the thumbs with an angle of 90 degrees it is really easy to write, look in youtube a video that shows how a iphone user can write faster than one that use the great swype on hd2, it is just a matter of pratical skill that stems for some training. anyway there are software that use bigger keyboard, if I well remember is the spb keyboard.
3 solutions...
1)swype
2)training
3)spb keyboard
seems easy...
Yeap practice is definately the way forward in this case I think
sony007 said:
What is the biggest keyboard which can be installed on the HTC HD2? I have tried swype and the standard keyboard that comes with the phone, but I tend to be hitting the key next door at times resulting in me taking longer than I would like to send a simple text.
I haven't seen an Iphone keyboard before but I have not heard anyone mentioning the difficulties with the typing on that phone, I could be wrong of course.
I need some decent size keys to press, it wouldn't of been to bad if we had a stylus in the phone.
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the iphone is much more accurate then hd2.i own the hd2 and the htc shift.
Accuracy depends on each and every person. You can`t say that one keyboard is more accurate than another, because only the person typing can be more or less accurate when using one of the keyboards. I`ve used both the iPhone and the HD2 (which I own) and I would go for the HD2`s keyboard anytime. But that`s just my opinion.
As for the OP`s problem, use SPB Keyboard if you have a hard time typing on the stock keyboard.