just picked up my new phone, however 3/4g data speeds are crap. speed tests come out at less then impressive (when i can do them) but real world performance is far bellow what the speed test says. i am pulling about 1Mb/s down and about 1Mb/s up (usually less but im rounding), now the fun part, if i try to pull up a website, it is slow as hell or times out. google market also times out 70% of the time. downloading a 1mb app can take upwards of 7 minutes as it pauses while doing this, facebook app usually times out or works for a few minutes and then stops receiving data. all this said, my battery died at noon today because my phone was constantly trying to sync with gmail, FB, google+, etc. if i watch the data activity icon it looks as if my phone repeatedly sends off requests but does not receive data back. i have seen that some at&t users with an unlocked i9100 are also having the same issues, but they seem to mainly be a apn issue. others are using root explorer to change some config files. am i alone? is my phone defective? or is this just my new galaxy s2 ruined by bell?
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or is this just my new galaxy s2 ruined by bell?
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right there
If I am correct, I think you should be able to experiment with the different modems avaliable for the SII.
For me the newest euro one has the fastest speeds, but that depends on the network and country you are in!
Best,
Sebkinne
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just picked up my new phone, however 3/4g data speeds are crap. speed tests come out at less then impressive (when i can do them) but real world performance is far bellow what the speed test says. i am pulling about 1Mb/s down and about 1Mb/s up (usually less but im rounding), now the fun part, if i try to pull up a website, it is slow as hell or times out. google market also times out 70% of the time. downloading a 1mb app can take upwards of 7 minutes as it pauses while doing this, facebook app usually times out or works for a few minutes and then stops receiving data. all this said, my battery died at noon today because my phone was constantly trying to sync with gmail, FB, google+, etc. if i watch the data activity icon it looks as if my phone repeatedly sends off requests but does not receive data back. i have seen that some at&t users with an unlocked i9100 are also having the same issues, but they seem to mainly be a apn issue. others are using root explorer to change some config files. am i alone? is my phone defective? or is this just my new galaxy s2 ruined by bell?
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Weird.
I did not have any of those issues so I think you have a dud.
Take it back before you start trying other fixes etc as that's what the return period is for.
I've used it since yesterday (Thur/21) and didn't notice any issues/problems with WiFi, or HSPA+ speeds.
Hrm... mind you I didn't actually use it on Bell, could be their network.
As soon as I got the sucker I rooted / unlocked so I could pop my Rogers SIM in there and it's fine on Rogers.
Actually there is one thing you could check before you return.
Do a *#0011* and make sure your WCDMA says 850 Band 5, if it says 1900 it will be as slow as *[email protected](.
How is it that you change it to 850?
My baseband version changed to XXKG2 when it was originally UMKG2. This is probably why I'm showing as 1900 band when I do *#0011#*.
I'll have to wait for someone to post the UMKG2 modem file.
Could be Bells network. I thought maybe the custom ROM I am currently using was to blame but I am experiencing everything you are with my sgs1 and have been for about a week now. I'm in Calgary.
Edit : Also I get the best speeds on 1900, 850 is only useful out in the mountains here.
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My baseband version changed to XXKG2 when it was originally UMKG2. This is probably why I'm showing as 1900 band when I do *#0011#*.
I'll have to wait for someone to post the UMKG2 modem file.
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Dude you do realise that this is quadband GSM and quadband hspda phone. This means if you are on 1900 currently blame your provider or maybe you screwed band selection which is easily corrected. I usually turn off euro GSM and 3g frequencies and leave only our 850 and 1900 bands to save battery so it does not keep searching for 2100 for example.
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Bell throttles their upload speeds, haven't touched their download speeds as far as I know.
Speedtest gives me 800kb/s but downloading I get 1.2Mb/s.
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Same boat. On Rogers network and only getting ~1.5mbps.
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Weird.
I did not have any of those issues so I think you have a dud.
Take it back before you start trying other fixes etc as that's what the return period is for.
I've used it since yesterday (Thur/21) and didn't notice any issues/problems with WiFi, or HSPA+ speeds.
Hrm... mind you I didn't actually use it on Bell, could be their network.
As soon as I got the sucker I rooted / unlocked so I could pop my Rogers SIM in there and it's fine on Rogers.
Actually there is one thing you could check before you return.
Do a *#0011* and make sure your WCDMA says 850 Band 5, if it says 1900 it will be as slow as *[email protected](.
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ok, i am running on the 850 band 5. i did notice a slowdown on my sgs previously but not the timeouts/drop data connections/etc. i just finished a factory reset and lost all mobile net access for about 2 hours but have it back now (kinda). popped my sim out and back into my sgs and am having similar problems with the sgs but not as severe. i guess i can chalk it down to network issues that started up within 5 hours after buying the new phone. talked to the place of purchase and they are saying the network is loaded do to "rib fest" which in all reality only pulls maybe 1k to 2k of people that are already up here cottaging so i have trouble with there theory that the local towers are loaded as really its only one tower thats loaded more than normal. love the phone, wifi speeds and page rendering is retarded fast. i was watching a 720p video streaming from vimeo through the phone and scrolling around the page, it stayed smooth as butter. i just want my mobile internet to work. past that, when i have been able to do a speed test i have got no more than 2Mb/s, a far cry from what the technology can do. I hate you bell!
I have by Bell Galaxy S 2 running with telus, I am getting between 2-4 mbps download, and 1-3 mbps on upload. I an only getting up to maybe 1mbps on wifi, download or upload. I am using a 2.3.4 custom Darky Rom.
I'm getting 3 to 7mbps download on 4g and 1.5 to 4mps upload. Purchased from bell. On bell network.
On my home wifi 16mbps to 19mbps down, 1mbps up right next to the router.
I am using KF3 modem(radio) and it has improved the speeds and reception.. slightly (5 to 10%) but i do find the wifi signal doesn't crap out anymore which as my problem.
Try KF3 modem, put the file on your phone and flash with CWM http://www.mediafire.com/?fnkld9swo6u99
keep in mind there is no official ROM for bell yet so if u flash custom roms you wont have warranty until stock firmware is released for it.
maybe u gusy are in low 4g coverage ares? im around the don mills and lawrence area in toronto.
first one is 4g, second is wifi
Its probably most likely bell. Its nothing but corporate ripoffs. If this was the U.K they would be out of business. I dont see anywhere near 2mbit in newfoundland either.
*#0011# showd 0 HSPA+ connections so im guessing either bell doesnt have hspa+ here or bell has severely crippled the provisioning in favor of their internet sticks. But even then when a person pays nearly 60.00 a month for an up to 42mbit connection, it states that average is only something like 5 to 8mbit.
I share the same slowness and timeouts as you.
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Its probably most likely bell. Its nothing but corporate ripoffs. If this was the U.K they would be out of business. I dont see anywhere near 2mbit in newfoundland either.
*#0011# showd 0 HSPA+ connections so im guessing either bell doesnt have hspa+ here or bell has severely crippled the provisioning in favor of their internet sticks. But even then when a person pays nearly 60.00 a month for an up to 42mbit connection, it states that average is only something like 5 to 8mbit.
I share the same slowness and timeouts as you.
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It seems they have bad coverage there. Why don't you get people in your area to sign a petition for Bell to install some antennas in the area and send it to Bell... worth a shot.
I am on Sasktel and the data on the Galaxy S II is quite poor. I have been getting aroud 2.5 Mbps Up and 2.5 Mbps Down max, this is including build.prop edits. I have tried KH3, KH1, KG3 and KG2 with KG3 yielding the best results. These numbers are about the same as my Nexus S but the Nexus S yielded much more consistant results.
2.7Mbps down and 1.5 up with KG6 on Telus
8 Mbps down & 1 Mbps up - On Virgin Mobile, HSPA+
Try flashing the KH3 modem using Odin, it's said to work extremely well on the Bell/Virgin network.
Just put the KE7 modem on my phone, pulled the best numbers I've got yet and I have tried MANY modems. 6012kbps up and 2633 down. Will continue to test and report back if there is a change. This is on Sasktel with a KH3 based rom.
Decent speeds for me in Guelph on Rogers.
*edit* After seeing some of the above posts maybe it's not so decent after all. Maybe I'll try some other firmwares for kicks.
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Ok I use have a Wing and ive never gotten a data plan because of the price. I finaly broke down and got a G1 cause there was more power under the hood plus anyone could develop on it being open. Well i got a deal on one and the price was decent so I got a data plan bundled with my original plan. Ive never used a data connection before so when I got home I started playing with it. I wasnt all that impresed with the connection speeds, Its almost like its on a crappy dial-up connection. The Youtube app is pretty much useless unless your on wifi it only plays about 2sec's before it buffers for a minute and then plays another 2sec's. Now is this normal? Is this what 3g really is? Am I missing a bigger picture here?. Heres some of the things i have done to try and get some sort of improvement.
Screwed around with APN's.
Tryed it in diffrent areas around the state.
Flashed it with 1.5 which i do believe came with a new radio.
Any input would be greatly appreciated, Im not putting down the phone as a matter of fact i love it, Im just not too fond of this connection technology.
I was dealing with some of the same issues.I installed Adrenaline and my connection seems way better
How is the coverage in you area? I've never had any problems with my 3G on my G1, always between 2 and 3 MBit connection...... Are you sure your carrier supports UMTS/HSDPA? Without those 3G is worth nothing..... Also make sure you are stationary when testing speeds.
Coverage is great ive never lost a 3g connection its just slow as hell and almost is useless to me, My carrier is T-mobile and wether or not it is supported i dont have a clue as to find out if it is.
well my test speed stationary was 38.6 Kbit\s with full bars, Doesnt even come close to your speeds. Any other Ideas?
When you're using your mobile network, does the 3G symbol show in the notification bar? Or does it say E? If it says E and you're getting those speeds then those are about right for the EDGE network. However, if you're connected with the 3G symbol next to the link, then those speeds are too slow. If it says E, make sure you don't have 2G network only checked under settings>wireless>mobile network. If that's not checked, then its likely you just don't have 3G in your area.
nope the notification is always 3G
Meh my edge is 10kb download, I would kill for 3g...
It takes miniutes to load pages and seconds to load google.
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It's not the connection technology - it's either a problem with your phone, or just that your carriers network isn't very good and/or doesn't have the necessary backbone to cope with the amount of traffic generated by its subscribers. Given that T-Mobiles 3G network in the US isn't exactly pervasive, I'd hedge my bets that it is a network issue.
Here in the UK, I live in a very rural area, and I get 2.4mbps on my G1 via T-Mobile UK. Can't really tell the difference between being on WiFi and 3G given the actual processing speed of the device.
Of course, we're very lucky here in the sense that we are a small country (thing of Georgia and Florida combined) with a high population density. This means it is comparatively simple to get blanket 3G coverage (say 95% ish at least in terms of population).
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Dave
I never really said it was the connection technology, Its just that my first impression with 3g has been unfavorable, Damn I just sold my wing and i didnt even think of trying out the 3G on it to see if anything was better. Ohh and sadly when i do get edge Its great and alot more faster which is odd to say but to face the facts i can watch youtube videos with edge with no problem. Ill probley reflash it with official 1.5 and if i get the same results then is there a way to dumb down the browser to make it almost txt based without any image and uneeded script loading to atleast make browsing the web alittle more likeable.
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I never really said it was the connection technology, Its just that my first impression with 3g has been unfavorable, Damn I just sold my wing and i didnt even think of trying out the 3G on it to see if anything was better. Ohh and sadly when i do get edge Its great and alot more faster which is odd to say but to face the facts i can watch youtube videos with edge with no problem.
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Theoretically, EDGE maxes out at 192kbps and "standard" UMTS 3G at 384kbps. With HSDPA, the theoretical maximum is 7.2mbps, but most carriers don't support speeds such as this yet (T-Mobile UK supposedly at 4.5mbps).
So, if you are getting better performance over EDGE than you are over 3G, and assuming that T-Mobile uses the same backhaul network for both 3G and EDGE traffic, it seems more likely to me that you may have a problem device. I'd suggest a trip to a T-Mobile retail location may help, since they should be able to compare your experience with other devices.
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Dave
Well ill check out some nearby stores and see if they have working display models to try it out and cross refrence them to see if they compare the same. To get alittle off topic here so far i have had one problem with the device I played Retro defense from the market (Game BTW) and i played it for 2 hours straight. After 2 hours of gameplay that phone was hotter than hell which was kinda scarey and It just shut off blinking red on the notification LED so i figured the phone can actually overheat. I can reproduce this over and over only with that game. So if that hasnt happend to anyone then its a possibility that your assumption might be right that my device might have a defect. But its kind of a big crossover between overheating and connection difficulty.
First of all, hello everyone.
I am on Rogers with the Rogers/At&T version of the Nexus One.
I'm not getting HSPDA speeds on my phone.
The best speed I've got is about 1Mbps, which is not HSPDA speeds, or at least not as fast as it should be.
I live in Montreal,Quebec and Sherbrooke,Quebec. Which both cities are covered with hspa+ from Rogers.
rogers.com/web/content/wireless_network
when I go in settings, about phone,
Mobile Network Type : UMTS and HSPDA ( depending if it's on on or the other, i see it in my status bar 3G or H, cyanogen mod)
I know network speeds are slow when there is more people connected to the towers, and this is my point, I travel enough to understand when there is or not a lot of people using the tower. ( Sherbrooke is a relatively small city compared to Montreal)
I also get slightly better speeds in Sherbrooke.
What can explain these slow speeds
I am with Rogers in Vancouver, my download speed is 3.2 mbps at daytime and can up to 5 mbps at night. I heard that there are lots of nexus one from T mobile with diff band and can't receive the 3g network. Are you using the latest Korean Radio as well, its helps to boost the download speed as well!
I never got to 5 mbps.
maybe 3 mbps at night never more.
my radio is : 32.41.00.32U_5.08.00.04
I live in the Okanagan in BC, and I can get about 2Mbps down/500Kbps up from Rogers on HSDPA with my N1. My wife, with her N1 can get in and around the same on Telus. As minniecafe mentioned, when I'm down in Vancouver I can clear the 3Mbps mark. It really all comes down to where you live and how crappy the Rogers equipment is there.
I get crappy speeds in the day in Ricmond Hill Ontario, but it picks up at night. my build.prop file is edited which helps. something you can search around for.
I'm on Rogers in Montreal and I also get 3 during the day and 5 during the night.
In Quebec City with Videotron, I get 5+mbps with my N1. Also, Videotron is much cheaper. Glad I switched from Rogers.
The reason you might be getting crappy speeds would be because Rogers' network is now oversaturated with all those iphone users. Doesn't help that Rogers' network is old technology now. They've been having random 3G outages like crazy over the past few months since the iphone 4 launched.
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The reason you might be getting crappy speeds would be because Rogers' network is now oversaturated with all those iphone users. Doesn't help that Rogers' network is old technology now. They've been having random 3G outages like crazy over the past few months since the iphone 4 launched.
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dont follow on the old technology comment, thought it was the same thats being used by bell and telus.
Agreed on the saturated by iphone users.
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I am with Rogers in Vancouver, my download speed is 3.2 mbps at daytime and can up to 5 mbps at night. I heard that there are lots of nexus one from T mobile with diff band and can't receive the 3g network. Are you using the latest Korean Radio as well, its helps to boost the download speed as well!
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Hehe same here, its snowing!!!!
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Montreal Speed test today Friday Nov. 19 5:00PM
Download 3.51Mbps
Upload 1.18 Mbps
CM 6.1.0RC1-N1
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FRG83
I average anywhere from 1.5-3.5 Mbps down and 1-2.5 Mbps up.
Interestingly, my friends get about the same on various Android devices && newer BB's. However, friends on iPhone4 are averaging 5-6 Mbps down consistently. Since both Nexus One and iPhone 4 do HSDPA 7.2 Mbps on Rogers, I find it suspicious that iPhone4 is so much faster on their network :\ Unless there's something I don't know about the iPhone.
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In Quebec City with Videotron, I get 5+mbps with my N1. Also, Videotron is much cheaper. Glad I switched from Rogers.
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+1 Same for me, check my sig
Vidéotron is great, cheaper and faster ^^
Since I got all of you Canadian+850/1900/2100 users here, let me ask you this:
Who in all of you upgraded his/her radio to something past 4.06.00.12_7? If so, which method did you use (Fastboot, Recov)? And finally, did it improve -anything-?
I'm asking because I'm afraid
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Since I got all of you Canadian+850/1900/2100 users here, let me ask you this:
Who in all of you upgraded his/her radio to something past 4.06.00.12_7? If so, which method did you use (Fastboot, Recov)? And finally, did it improve -anything-?
I'm asking because I'm afraid
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I'm on 1700/2100 Mhz but heh, same thing.
My phone came stock with 5.08, I updated to 5.12 and I seem to get faster speeds and a bit better consistency...
You simply have to get a flashable zip file (check in cyanogen forums - download section for stable nexus one) and flash it in the recovery...that it, if you don't have an unlocked bootloader.
No matter the way, both are safe as long as you are using a decent recovery (newest clockwork or amon_ra) and as long as you VERIFY THE MD5 HASHES!
If you do that, the chances of bricking your phone are so small that we can completely ignore them
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I'm on 1700/2100 Mhz but heh, same thing.
My phone came stock with 5.08, I updated to 5.12 and I seem to get faster speeds and a bit better consistency...
You simply have to get a flashable zip file (check in cyanogen forums - download section for stable nexus one) and flash it in the recovery...that it, if you don't have an unlocked bootloader.
No matter the way, both are safe as long as you are using a decent recovery (newest clockwork or amon_ra) and as long as you VERIFY THE MD5 HASHES!
If you do that, the chances of bricking your phone are so small that we can completely ignore them
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Thanks for the time you took to give me the blow-by-blow, but the specific info I need still eludes me: are the radio updates safe for 850/1900/2100 (AT&T) models? I'm afraid of -that-. After that, updating the radio itself is, to be honest, trivial.
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Thanks for the time you took to give me the blow-by-blow, but the specific info I need still eludes me: are the radio updates safe for 850/1900/2100 (AT&T) models? I'm afraid of -that-. After that, updating the radio itself is, to be honest, trivial.
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I see, well I wish I could give you concrete proof that it works...but all I can say is that I have seen a few AT&T frequency Nexus Ones with newer radios...I hardly think they are dependent on the type you have since they come with the OS updates (for example, 4.06 came with Froyo)...these OS updates go on ANY Nexus One...Now these newer radios are korean, but I highly doubt it is any different...
I do understand your worry though as this is one of the only things that can brick a Nexus One...Hopefully someone can post actual facts...
I live around the Toronto downtown core, and I average around 2mbps - 3mbps.
However once at a friends house (who lives close to a tower) I managed to get 4.74mbps while on his SIM card (Bell) I was getting 5.32mbps.
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Thanks for the time you took to give me the blow-by-blow, but the specific info I need still eludes me: are the radio updates safe for 850/1900/2100 (AT&T) models? I'm afraid of -that-. After that, updating the radio itself is, to be honest, trivial.
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I finally manned up and flashed radio_32.50.00.32U_5.12.00.08.zip (yes, checked the MD5s, thoughroughly. even md5sum'd the file after adbpushing it to the phone. overkill).
for reference, these two flashed it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8780816&postcount=46
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8781438&postcount=47
And they're Rogers, so 850/1900. There
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I finally manned up and flashed radio_32.50.00.32U_5.12.00.08.zip (yes, checked the MD5s, thoughroughly. even md5sum'd the file after adbpushing it to the phone. overkill).
for reference, these two flashed it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8780816&postcount=46
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8781438&postcount=47
And they're Rogers, so 850/1900. There
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Great to hear. Can you report any enhancements? Better signal? Better speeds?
Reposted on AC also,trying to get as many peoples input as possible!
Going to start of by saying this isnt a slam against Sprint. I was happy as hell to go back to them after having ATT with my iPhone. This post is to get a general feel for the speeds people are experiencing.
Sum it up as short as I can, I wanted to watch the Seahawks playoff game tonight, so I fired up the ole Slingplayer. To my disappointment, it looked like complete crap and was literally freezing up. So I decided to run a speedtest to see what kind of up/down speeds I was getting.
This is where it gets crappy. I had a friend with a DroidX on Verizon,and another friend with the Samsung Galaxy phone from AT&T next to me, and asked them to run a test also. Speeds were as follows
Verizon- 2.1mb down 950 up
AT&T- 2.3mb down 650 up
Sprint - 393kbps 655kbps up
Uh...yeah. So I ran it again,186kbps down 397 up...WTH
I know Sprint isnt exactly the best carrier and all (and yes I do still love em for the prices) but is the network THAT crappy?
Alittle info about my phone is this:
Android 2.2
2.15.00.11.19 Baseband
2.6.32.15 netarchy-toastmod 4.1.9.1 cfs
3.70.651.1 Build #
Azrael X 3.0
PRI 1.90.003
PRL 60674
I have tried to update my radios with the combo pack at first, but the radio itself stalled at Formatting Cache, so i tried to use them seperately, and once again, stalled at formatting. Everytime I try to update my radio (to actually have it run the full course), it stalls at the formatting part after the self reboot. I thought I would give it time, but 10min of sitting on that screen and nothing, I manually reboot and manually format cache thru recovery. I also updated my profiles each time I try to reinstall the radios.
Am I missing something here or doing something wrong? I know about tower signals and all, but since the area I live and work will NOT be getting 4G anytime soon (as its outside Milwaukee and 4G will not reach that far when and IF Milwaukee gets it), I would at least expect my 3G service to be better than that!
Don't feel so bad. I live in Milwaukee and...
About a year and half ago I could consistently hit 2 mbps on my Touch Pro / Diamond. Then a few months later I was down to about 1500 kbps, which was more then fine. About 6 months ago me and a friend (different plans etc) both started experiencing close to 400 kbps. On our TP2's. It has gotten much worse. I have an EvO, he has a TP2 still so it is not phone related. There are days I can't get above 47 kbps. Most of the time I seem to hover around 87-187 kbps. I have literally waited 2 minutes for webpages to load. And this has been going on for about the past 2 months. Numerous calls and troubleshooting has lead me to believe sprints network is just way to overloaded. I am about to leave Sprint and grab some t mobile and HSPDA+ love. I give till March 31st, only because someone I know claims Sprint 4G may become active here. Apparently there is already a network in place and it is a licensing issue. I doubt it is true, but that is how long I give sprint to get their network together.
Regrettably T Mobile isnt an option for me since I live out in the Falls. I have a store about a 5 min walk from me and the sales reps told me not to even bother about a year or so ago lol.
Even walking thru malls when those sales people approach me, all I say is I live in Meno Falls, and they stop the sales pitch lol
The formatting cache screen is normal, it should do that. It doesn't mean it froze. Just click reboot and you're good to go.
To the OP, your speeds are indicative of 3g (or less) speeds. Was the phone in 4g mode when you ran the test?
Sadly, sprint and verizon 4g technology is not compatible, otherwise swapping out to a verizon prl might be the trick.
Come to think of it, there was another thread here regarding using verizon's 3g even in areas where sprint does have coverage. Did you try that?
Around the oshkosh appleton area I get 300-1000 kbs down and around 700-800 up.
So wait. How can I piggyback off Verizon with a Sprint phone?? I know both are CDMA but thought theres a big difference between chipsets etc.
Oddly enough too I used to able to use my IPad sling player at work also, thought somewhat choppy at times,but it's NEVER been as bad as it's been the past week or so. I did read somewhere that people are having issues with the new radios so I wonder if that could be the culprit and if flashing to a previous radio would clear things up. Then again I think the 3.70 update requires the new radios to function properly though I could be wrong
Anyway back to crying over my non functioning sling players on iPad and Evo due to lack of any decent reliable bandwidth lol
It's not your radio. I've been running the same radio since the 3.29 update. I'm on the 3.70 build now but, the radio hasn't been updated. I used to get close to 1st meg down here in louisville but since christmas it's lucky to get 150 k.
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To the OP, your speeds are indicative of 3g (or less) speeds. Was the phone in 4g mode when you ran the test?
Sadly, sprint and verizon 4g technology is not compatible, otherwise swapping out to a verizon prl might be the trick.
Come to think of it, there was another thread here regarding using verizon's 3g even in areas where sprint does have coverage. Did you try that?
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Hey, we aren't talking of 4G. And no, his speeds are less then 3G. And the issue with Verizons PRL is if more then half or like 500MB is roaming data, then Sprint likes to terminate you.
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Around the oshkosh appleton area I get 300-1000 kbs down and around 700-800 up.
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Nice. What Radio/Rom? Not that it makes a diff.
Tower1972 said:
So wait. How can I piggyback off Verizon with a Sprint phone?? I know both are CDMA but thought theres a big difference between chipsets etc.
Oddly enough too I used to able to use my IPad sling player at work also, thought somewhat choppy at times,but it's NEVER been as bad as it's been the past week or so. I did read somewhere that people are having issues with the new radios so I wonder if that could be the culprit and if flashing to a previous radio would clear things up. Then again I think the 3.70 update requires the new radios to function properly though I could be wrong
Anyway back to crying over my non functioning sling players on iPad and Evo due to lack of any decent reliable bandwidth lol
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Not your radio. Several phones in my area do this.
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It's not your radio. I've been running the same radio since the 3.29 update. I'm on the 3.70 build now but, the radio hasn't been updated. I used to get close to 1st meg down here in louisville but since christmas it's lucky to get 150 k.
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You and me, in the same boat.
Milwaukee Area
I was recently up in the Milwaukee area over the holidays and the 3G was actually pretty solid at about 1 meg.
In KC, I am lucky to get 256 kb on any given day. Wisconsin doesn't have the 4G network yet - but honestly 4G is over rated (Great speeds if you are outside standing next to the tower and don't mind being tethered to an power outlet)
It is easy to forget that Sprint and other cell phone providers Internet access is still cell phone technology in a world of cable modems and DSL... That the speeds are comparible but there is cell phone "lag" due to the wireless transmissions. And that lag definately will be a factor in gaming and streaming video where packets have to be on time.
weidnerj said:
In KC, I am lucky to get 256 kb on any given day. Wisconsin doesn't have the 4G network yet - but honestly 4G is over rated (Great speeds if you are outside standing next to the tower and don't mind being tethered to an power outlet)
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I think that's more of a Wi-Max issue than Sprint. LTE doesn't have that problem because they operate at a higher frequency. I believe Sprint and Clear are going to switch to LTE and that might actually be the reason for the delay in some areas. I read an article yesterday about Clear having an LTE network running in Phoenix right now with speeds touching 90 megabits. Google it.
As for my speeds in Brookfield the best I got today was 787 down and 621 up. That's been normal for me.
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Hey, we aren't talking of 4G. And no, his speeds are less then 3G. And the issue with Verizons PRL is if more then half or like 500MB is roaming data, then Sprint likes to terminate you.
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Indeed. Bottom end of 3g. Fwiw, this little tweak might help
##3282# from the phone menu
advanced
look at the bottom, http pd proxy port and proxy address
I changed mint to
port:0
proxy: 0.0.0.0
I was having issues with shoutcast streaming in winamp and other programs. This change bypasses the proxy, but may also help in the op's case.
DOh! Forgot about that... It's right there in sprint's terms and [email protected]# So really, such use is suitable when traveling, where bulk of the data usage is in a sprint market. But where less than majority (49%?) is while roaming. Of course the 49% is my interpretation. They don't really define what majority means.
http://shop.sprint.com/en/legal/legal_terms_privacy_popup.shtml
Off-network Roaming: The primary use of your Device must be for domestic purposes within the Sprint-owned network. Domestic means use in the 50 United States and U.S. Territories (except Guam). Sprint reserves the right, without notice, to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if off-network usage in a month exceeds: (1) voice: 800 min. or a majority of minutes; or (2) data: 300 megabytes or a majority of kilobytes. The display on your device may not always be on and will not indicate whether you will incur roaming charges. You can monitor usage online through My Account. Roaming is not available with single-band phones, or to customers who reside or whose primary use is outside an area covered by the Nationwide Sprint Network. Sprint may limit or terminate service if you move outside of the Sprint owned-network.
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So I really had to do a double take on this, and I honestly wouldn't believe it if I didn't have this evidence(after all, isn't the saying "pic or it didn't happen!") you're about to see. I have been checking the news lately and ATT had a quiet 4G announcement ceremony 20 hours ago, and a number of places are getting the HSPA+ switchover. Well, I decided to run speedtest and after running a wifi test first, I ran one HSPA test....1406 down, 1744 UP!!!!! I was shocked, and I immediately logged onto xda, excited to report the switch has been flipped, at least the software one; my Fuze running energy can get 2000 up from where I'm sitting; right before I was going to post this thread saying hey everyone they changed it, I thought wait, I don't want to cry wolf, so I went back into the app for 3 more tests. NO MORE HSUPA! I even walked to line of sight with the damn HSUPA enabled tower, and it was off again! WTFFFFFFFFFF!
Here are the pictures of said insanity:
imbx,us/Gys.jpg
imbx,us/GLm.jpg
imbx,us/G2E.jpg
in a sense of irony, I found a weird ball of spiders today, when I uploaded the picture it assigned it the label:
imbx,us/GSM.jpg[/url]
I would like to stick this ball of spiders inside Steve Jobs or the ATT CEO's mouth, for what they've done to GSM. Apple made them cripple the HSUPA, and they probably had a year exclusivity deal, which is why a year after the iphone 4 has HSUPA, we get it. Just my guess, I haven't heard anyone say that, but damn, my Fuze has had 2400 upload for years...
Here's another picture of that weird ball I found. It explodes when you touch it...
imbx,us/GBU.jpg
If you can test your Atrix and provide a location in your reply, then we can make this a thread for reporting in areas that have gotten a possible switch. I have a feeling that over the next week changes are going to be made
And in case anyone is wondering why this is in development, well, as far as I'm concerned, this is a DEVELOPMENT, in ANDROID, for the ATRIX. It happens to be a developing situation,
Semantics, I love em!
PS I had to replace the periods with commas in the picture links because I've been a 3 year lurker, not poster.
Addendum
Sorry if I come off a little bit frustrated in my post, but I literally NEED HSUPA in 3 days for some work I'm doing with the national guard and homeland security. If the ATT network permissions are not changed in a couple days, I'm screwed and stuck with my damn Fuze. And that thing sucks! Call/End/Home/Back buttons broken, cannot answer calls because slide to answer disappears when I GET a call, and when I plug in the audio/charging dongle, it will randomly dial people in my contact list...including ex girlfriends...
Anybody dealing with that, would be irate.
No offense. this still doesn't deserve to be in this forum.
And just in case I'm not clear.. You should move it to general..
Xda app via atrix
In retrospect, no problem with that, except I tried editing and I didn't see a parameter to make this post jump to the other subsection; I'll try again, as I have no problem moving it...
Checked, and yeah, I feel like a boner, as I am failing to see any button to delete this post or another item to move it to a more appropriate spot. Hopefully the wise and all knowing Mr. Clown will swoop down on this stupidity of mine. Note to self: pay more attention during 2 am postings....
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Yes this should be in General, but also FYI... AT&T can't just "flip" a "software switch" and enable HSUPA on ANY phone. HSUPA is enabled or disabled by the modem installed on the phone, and ANY phone with HSUPA (say, a Captivate running an i9000 modem/kernel) will be able to use it on AT&T's network and they will get those speeds. The Atrix didn't ship with a modem that even HAS the REV6, it shipped with hardware that was "capable" of it, but a modem that was not, and as of the 4.1.57 update, they still haven't released a modem that is. You just stated that you did a wifi speed test right before... It is likely a result of cache files that you got the results you saw... In other words, a fluke.
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Rich, I wish I could say it was a fluke, but a couple of things here don't make sense for a fluke: if it was wifi, then why was the 1700 kbps down SUSTAINED? it didn't cut out, it only reverted to baseline UMTS after trying again a few minutes later. Second, my wifi would never put out such a low upload speed, I'm right next to the router, full bars 802.11n on a high speed connection that often upload reports 9 to 5 mbps, never lower. Third, my Fuze, a 3.5 year old device with an olllllld rom, most likely without the release 6 handshake, can connect to HSUPA at 1500-1900 kbps from my office chair, where I have been testing. LOS I get even better, but still, I don't think it was a mistake:
ATT is deploying their "4G". They are going to go live with higher HSPA+ speeds VERY soon, they just had the announcement. What I think happened is this, our phones, being the very well connected devices they are, are provisioned according to device type. I think when I momentarily connected for the first time in several hours, it provisioned me the HSUPA packetstream for a moment. Perhaps because they are changing software and/or equipment at many towers right now, there was a glitch, but right now I see zero evidence for the ookla app royally screwing up; check the pictures, it assigned me a HSUPA stream upon initial connection, sustained it for about 15 seconds, and then I rechecked it about 5 minutes later, and it was back to 360, the practical maximum for UMTS. So since these postings are getting pageviews despite its improper location(I haven't got the powers to move it to general), I would like people reading this to test their phone and chime in, especially if you don't live in the east bay in california like me. I know Orlando airport is supposed to be running HSPA+ right now....
The most convincing thing to me was, when it first ran and i got the typical dl speed of 1500, and then the ul of 1704, it behaved exactly like it was onthe network: the speed oscillated up and down like a realtime connection, losing or gaining dozens of bits during the test. It behaved like it connected with hsdpa and hsupa during every other connection i made with my fuze in ookla, winmo or aosp. And seeing as it(fuze) has the original radio and modem, idk about att's handshake explanation. Then again i make no pretentions of being a high speed packet access engineer....
It is a fluke. Same thing happens to my phone since day o f release. I get good upload once out of 10 tests
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This ins not development. Moved
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Hi jay, i think you may be describing something else; I've run speedtest literally 100 times since release, and during those many tests i saw what you may think i'm describing: for a split second, the speed would jump really high and then plummet to baseline. Saw that many times never sustained. Last night i got a SUSTAINED hsupa stream. If you guys type in at&t 4G into google news and parse by recent, MANY cities are getting the goods, with postings across the country over the past 4 days. AT&T is pumping$ 19 billion dollars into their network this yea and next. I think the transition has already begun. Thats why i made this thread, i want other hspa users tocheck the network around them, i know this misplaced posting is getting way more pageviews than posters....orlando intl should have 6+ mbps connections active right now for example
Guys he is right. Remember AT&T said they would be deploying HSPA+ in April. Well it is April. Now they never said when in April, but I can see them turning region by region on. I do agree it is more than just a switch. They add two more carrots in front of the donkey's to make them run faster so there network runs faster.
I wish someone would post what hspa hspa+ are and sticky it. Just because we get hsupa enabled still does not mean we get hspa+. This is device is capable of 14 mbps down. When we see speeds lime that then hspa + will be enabled... the iphone 3gs tops off at 7 mbs so do the math people. Enabling hsupa will benefit some but most of us wont notice any difference until hspa+ is enabled. Id rather have that right now than faster upload speeds
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Hi jay, i think you may be describing something else; I've run speedtest literally 100 times since release, and during those many tests i saw what you may think i'm describing: for a split second, the speed would jump really high and then plummet to baseline. Saw that many times never sustained. Last night i got a SUSTAINED hsupa stream. If you guys type in at&t 4G into google news and parse by recent, MANY cities are getting the goods, with postings across the country over the past 4 days. AT&T is pumping$ 19 billion dollars into their network this yea and next. I think the transition has already begun. Thats why i made this thread, i want other hspa users tocheck the network around them, i know this misplaced posting is getting way more pageviews than posters....orlando intl should have 6+ mbps connections active right now for example
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Nope that jump happens everytime. I just ran 10 tests and one uploaded at 1700.
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The speedtest apps on the market have very shoddy coding. It's a known fact. As everyone has been saying, it was a fluke, nothing more.
Bell Canada has HSUPA enabled network since Day 1,
but the software on the Atrix has been disabled HSUPA
so still not works
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I wish someone would post what hspa hspa+ are and sticky it. Just because we get hsupa enabled still does not mean we get hspa+. This is device is capable of 14 mbps down. When we see speeds lime that then hspa + will be enabled... the iphone 3gs tops off at 7 mbs so do the math people. Enabling hsupa will benefit some but most of us wont notice any difference until hspa+ is enabled. Id rather have that right now than faster upload speeds
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+1. HSUPA is available now but the modems on the Atrix are limiting us to 300 kbps. I have a Captivate that was limited to 300 kbps uploads. After rooting and flashing (with a different rom and modem) it gets 1500+ kbps upload.
HSPA+ is a different animal that won't translate to the Captivate.
So we're looking for two updates on the atrix.
1) HSUPA enabled...which can be done by AT&T w/ another OTA update that includes a new modem. This will work on the existing infrastructure and should give similar upload performance to the iphones.
2) HSPA+ enabled. I assume this will also require an OTA update but with the updated infrastructure, will bring much faster upload and download speeds (4G).
hello everyone, just got my sgs2, its totally awesome. im using my sgs2 and sgs1 side by side, first i did a speedtest.net test, my sgs1 got 6.5mbps, my sgs2 got 300kb. then i was like ew speedtest.net is being weird, lemme try the app, similar results, so i was like speedtest server is whack, lemme download a 1080p video from youtube.. and thats where i started to realize, side by side the two phones downloading the exact same 164mb video, the sgs1 finished 2 minutes ago, but the sgs2 is still at 41% ... the speed they downloaded the video was sgs1: 9300kbps sgs2: 1200kbps..
why is my sgs2 downloads so much slower than my sgs1?
Does having a EU phone in USA might be part of the problem?
both my sgs1 and sgs2 are from europe, and both have the same bands
this is interesting, and hopefully not characteristic
did you try upgrading to latest fw via kies?
did you try swapping the SIM cards between sgs1 and sgs2 and testing that way?
Ok...
If I was in this kind of situation, I would probably do the following (out of desperation) and see, if any help:
1) Swap sim cards between phones and see if it makes a difference,
2) Hard reset the phone,
3) Flash newer/same firmware using ODIN...
If this does not help, I (out of even bigger desperation) would start swearing and wait for others to come up with better ideas
You are on ATT and not TMO, right? You don't mention anything about signal strength or whether you're getting H on the S2. Are they both set to Auto? Try setting the S2 to WCDMA only. I hope the signal strength on the S2 isn't so much lower that it's kicking down to GSM, with the S1 running 3G.
(sorry, just saw your ATT logo. ignore first ?)
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You are on ATT and not TMO, right? You don't mention anything about signal strength or whether you're getting H on the S2. Are they both set to Auto? Try setting the S2 to WCDMA only. I hope the signal strength on the S2 isn't so much lower that it's kicking down to GSM, with the S1 running 3G.
(sorry, just saw your ATT logo. ignore first ?)
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yes both phones are AT&T
both phones are full bars of H, i live 8 houses down from the AT&T so my signal is as ideal as it could possibly be, normally my mobile ap is faster than my DSL, so signal isnt the problem..
ive set my S2 to WCDMA only, im going to do some speed tests now, will post updates in a few minutes
thank you all for helping me, i really hope this can be easily fixed <3 xda members
edit: well my speedtest.net results say 1.73 dl speed .21 upload, and 514 ping..
i passed my s1 down to my roommate, who has taken it off to work with her, so i cant switch sims..
im on the original firmware, do you think this matters?
soraxd said:
yes both phones are AT&T
both phones are full bars of H, i live 8 houses down from the AT&T so my signal is as ideal as it could possibly be, normally my mobile ap is faster than my DSL, so signal isnt the problem..
ive set my S2 to WCDMA only, im going to do some speed tests now, will post updates in a few minutes
thank you all for helping me, i really hope this can be easily fixed <3 xda members
edit: well my speedtest.net results say 1.73 dl speed .21 upload, and 514 ping..
i passed my s1 down to my roommate, who has taken it off to work with her, so i cant switch sims..
im on the original firmware, do you think this matters?
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Wait, you got 6.5mb on your SGS1? Is this the original SGS, or the new SGS 4G? I don't believe the SGS1 could actually go that fast - at least, mine never did...
I'm getting about 4-5mb on H+ (not H) on my SGS2 now, so there is no 1mb limit on the SGS2 or anything.
soraxd said:
yes both phones are AT&T
both phones are full bars of H, i live 8 houses down from the AT&T so my signal is as ideal as it could possibly be, normally my mobile ap is faster than my DSL, so signal isnt the problem..
ive set my S2 to WCDMA only, im going to do some speed tests now, will post updates in a few minutes
thank you all for helping me, i really hope this can be easily fixed <3 xda members
edit: well my speedtest.net results say 1.73 dl speed .21 upload, and 514 ping..
i passed my s1 down to my roommate, who has taken it off to work with her, so i cant switch sims..
im on the original firmware, do you think this matters?
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That ping time is absurd. Try changing speedtest servers. You may have been accessing two diff speedtest servers on the two phones. But the movie DL speeds are so different that's not likely the whole story.
(In Speedtest you can choose "Settings" then "Change Server" to select one near you. Can make a big difference.)
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That ping time is absurd. Try changing speedtest servers. You may have been accessing two diff speedtest servers on the two phones. But the movie DL speeds are so different that's not likely the whole story.
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that is a good point! did you enable GPS? Maybe the phone and speedtest app still think you are in the UK and speedtest is pulling data from there
RyanZA said:
Wait, you got 6.5mb on your SGS1? Is this the original SGS, or the new SGS 4G? I don't believe the SGS1 could actually go that fast - at least, mine never did...
I'm getting about 4-5mb on H+ (not H) on my SGS2 now, so there is no 1mb limit on the SGS2 or anything.
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yes with the sg1 hehe, the i9000 one, i live in a really prime location, i mean i could take a picture from my porch and you would see a big AT&T sign, with 5 dozen AT&T vans parked out in front. as far as 3g in the US, my speeds will beat anyones, just not on my s2 =[
and i love this firmware, it has so many languages built into the keyboard, vietnamese, AND japanese, two languages ive previously had to download additional keyboards for. will these still exist in the newer firmware?
RyanZA said:
Wait, you got 6.5mb on your SGS1? Is this the original SGS, or the new SGS 4G? I don't believe the SGS1 could actually go that fast - at least, mine never did...
I'm getting about 4-5mb on H+ (not H) on my SGS2 now, so there is no 1mb limit on the SGS2 or anything.
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I regularly got 4 mbps on Vodafone in the UK with my SGS 1, the phone was supposedly capable of 14.4 Mbps, but that was network dependant and UK networks did not support that speed.
soraxd said:
hello everyone, just got my sgs2, its totally awesome. im using my sgs2 and sgs1 side by side, first i did a speedtest.net test, my sgs1 got 6.5mbps, my sgs2 got 300kb. then i was like ew speedtest.net is being weird, lemme try the app, similar results, so i was like speedtest server is whack, lemme download a 1080p video from youtube.. and thats where i started to realize, side by side the two phones downloading the exact same 164mb video, the sgs1 finished 2 minutes ago, but the sgs2 is still at 41% ... the speed they downloaded the video was sgs1: 9300kbps sgs2: 1200kbps..
why is my sgs2 downloads so much slower than my sgs1?
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If swapping the sim cards does not help, try calling ATT see if they can help you trouble shoot it, maybe it needs some provisioning tweaks to get just right.
Congrats by the way, I am holding onto my iPhone 3GS waiting on this phone. I might pick up the infuse see if I like it.
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Wait, you got 6.5mb on your SGS1? Is this the original SGS, or the new SGS 4G? I don't believe the SGS1 could actually go that fast - at least, mine never did...
I'm getting about 4-5mb on H+ (not H) on my SGS2 now, so there is no 1mb limit on the SGS2 or anything.
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my vibrant just about hits that.
as far as i know, the US versions of the SGS max out at 7.2mbps.
definitely check the server. My SGS2 was running the speed test from a kansas server and i'm in nyc.
In terms of speed, it's very similar to my sgs1 except i've hit 4mbps+ a few times with sgs1 and i haven't with sgs2
guys, I think switching sims may have done the trick!
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I've actually been noticing faster downloads on my SGSII compared to my first (both unlocked, same network and SIM).
This includes via WiFi too.