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So i have a family plan with my parents... We have a 1500 minute account, i have unlimited text and web, they are old school and dont like texting or webing. So i upgrade my phone to a mytouch 7 months ago.. My parents are both elegible to upgrade price.. And i really like the Vibrant.. but t-mobile wants you to put a data plan on the line that you upgrade the phone... So my question is if i get the Vibrant using my moms phone number, Do i have to put Web on her line?? even tough she will not be using the phone.. I will Thanks
There should be a workaround for this, I would visit a store and ask a rep.
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The Data has to be added to the line that is upgraded. and the data has to stay on that line for the required 2 years or untill you do another upgrade.
deviusdragger said:
The Data has to be added to the line that is upgraded. and the data has to stay on that line for the required 2 years or untill you do another upgrade.
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this doesnt make sense how about if some one looses the phone, and gets a non internet capable phone? they are going to pay for a service that they cant use??
I mean the disconnected price is because you are increasing your contract 2 years more..
How about if i just want the phone for testing purposes and i dont want internet on it... or i want to use it as an ipod..
This suks
there is a way around it, upgrade the line to a vibrant on your moms line....then go into the store a day later and upgrade the same line to the cheapest dumb phone, you will have to pay full price, should be about 50-60 bucks, that line no longer requires a data contract
turbosix said:
There should be a workaround for this, I would visit a store and ask a rep.
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I called a tmo store, and wold told the same thing, that the data plan has to stick with the line that it was upgrade it, that i can use the phone with my other number, but i would have to play internet double :S WTF and that if i call tmobile and try to cancel that internet that they would charge a cancellation fee ($200) to remove this...
How stupid is this??
PolishDude said:
there is a way around it, upgrade the line to a vibrant on your moms line....then go into the store a day later and upgrade the same line to the cheapest dumb phone, you will have to pay full price, should be about 50-60 bucks, that line no longer requires a data contract
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ummm will they be mad about this since ?? like can they say no?
The data is required for 2 years. If you switch to a non data phone they'll make you switch to unlimited messaging for $15 on that line (best case scenario)
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Wait a minute. I though data plans only went in to effect once TMO detected the IMEI number for a particular SIM? I've done this in the past, and I understood I could do this in the future when speaking to TMO last week.
well seems like if i buy a phone make a 2 year contract and then later on i buy a full price phone trough t-mobile i dont have to keep that data plan...
well i just purchase it for $164 on the t-mo site.. Lets see what happens... You guys want me to update with the resolution??
btw if everything goes wrong i have 30 days to return the device correct???
I work for T-mobile, there is a work around to this. but you'll be paying full price for the vibrant. the $199 price for the vibrant is so cheap because of the internet and the data plan is locked in for 2 years regarless if you buy a cheaper phone, theres no way to take it out unless you want to pay the $200 early termination fee, its call "Required data plan". its better just to buy the phone out right. if you really want the vibrant as an upgrade PM and ill tell you what to do.
SuperMiguel said:
well i just purchase it for $164 on the t-mo site.. Lets see what happens... You guys want me to update with the resolution??
btw if everything goes wrong i have 30 days to return the device correct???
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I believe their return policy is now only 14 days.
just to let everyone know, any smartphone you get you are locked in for a 2 year data plan regarless if you get a dumb phone, that data plan is locked in. I work for T-mobile so I know, there is a way to do this, its my company secret so I can't say it here.
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just to let everyone know, any smartphone you get you are locked in for a 2 year data plan regarless if you get a dumb phone, that data plan is locked in. I work for T-mobile so I know, there is a way to do this, its my company secret so I can't say it here.
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Well i called t-mo and they told me that if i buy a dumb phone for full price that i didnt have to keep playing data plan...
if you data plan was before november of 2009 your free to take it off without cancellation anything after that it is required. you can try calling in but I gaurentee you that there will be a $200 cancellation fee on your next bill
lmfaznboi said:
if you data plan was before november of 2009 your free to take it off without cancellation anything after that it is required. you can try calling in but I gaurentee you that there will be a $200 cancellation fee on your next bill
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you said to PM you, that you know a way to get around this.. i pm you already...
SuperMiguel said:
I called a tmo store, and wold told the same thing, that the data plan has to stick with the line that it was upgrade it, that i can use the phone with my other number, but i would have to play internet double :S WTF and that if i call tmobile and try to cancel that internet that they would charge a cancellation fee ($200) to remove this...
How stupid is this??
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So i have a family plan with my parents... We have a 1500 minute account, i have unlimited text and web, they are old school and dont like texting or webing. So i upgrade my phone to a mytouch 7 months ago.. My parents are both elegible to upgrade price.. And i really like the Vibrant.. but t-mobile wants you to put a data plan on the line that you upgrade the phone... So my question is if i get the Vibrant using my moms phone number, Do i have to put Web on her line?? even tough she will not be using the phone.. I will Thanks
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I called the loyalty department at t-mobile.
Upgraded my father-in laws liine and got ordered the vibrant to put on my account.
The cost??? $149!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Call the loyalty department!!
They even took off the web on my father-in law's line.
I had to call in a couple times though.
Depends on who you talk to.
Hope this helps.
On your line, give that to one of your parents, take one of their lines upgrade it get the vibrant add text and web, and then remove all web and text services from your old line.simple. Hit my google voice number and I'll explain better for you, 2158217393. Tone.
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I had that happen to me when I upgraded a different line for my MyTouch. They will let you do it you just have to keep telling them you want to talk to a supervisor until one will give permission.
i asked this in a thread a while back, but it got passed up.
if you purchased and activated an evo off contract, what was there to gain? it seems like it wouldn't be worth it for the evo, since everyone was supposed to upgrade their plan a mandatory simply everything data plan + premium data. before with other phones, i could see the allure, but now, not so much, unless you found a way to keep your old plan.
i suppose if you weren't due for an upgrade, you had no other option but to buy it that way. Then Sprint can change your plan without extending your contract.
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i suppose if you weren't due for an upgrade, you had no other option but to buy it that way. Then Sprint can change your plan without extending your contract.
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that makes sense. it just seemed like alot of people got it in their heads that they would not be tied down to a contract no matter what, and it didn't seem to be worth it anymore.
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i suppose if you weren't due for an upgrade, you had no other option but to buy it that way. Then Sprint can change your plan without extending your contract.
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Lol i laugh when customers tell me they arent due for an Upgrade. Ive upgraded 4 times this year. But yea there is NO way yo keep your old plan. The Evo is only compatible with the Everything Data Plan and the Simply Everything Plan. No exceptions. Ive tryed everything to get around it. I had to leave me Sero Plan to get the evo
i'm on the everything data plus plan (long story) but that was about all i could do.
I got mine off contract, and the only thing that changed in my plan was adding the additonal $10 fee, which did not affect my contract expiration date (which is still October 1st).
I bought mine from best buy for the $200 dollar two year contract. My old contract expired earlier this year. Now, somehow my account shows that my contract expired 2 1/2 years ago. Not that I'm complaining, but anyone know how that could have happened? I double checked with the upgrade checker on best buys website, it shows the same thing.
TheBiles said:
I got mine off contract, and the only thing that changed in my plan was adding the additonal $10 fee, which did not affect my contract expiration date (which is still October 1st).
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expiration dates don't change if you are not receiving anything (subsidized phone on the same line, 75/150 off your bill.)
i should have wrote "mandatory". it looks like you lucked out. what plan do you have?
akastixx said:
expiration dates don't change if you are not receiving anything (subsidized phone on the same line, 75/150 off your bill.)
i should have wrote "mandatory". it looks like you lucked out. what plan do you have?
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How did I luck out? I didn't renew my contract because I bought it off contract. Anyone else could do the same thing. No one forces you to use an upgrade.
with google voice account... seems like sprint could turn your phone off and you could still have a phone...lol
I buy all my phones outright. I would have bought my Evo if I didn't get one free from Google. Only phone I ever got on-contract was my 1st gen iPhone. At this point I go through 2 phones a year so off contract is way cheaper for me.
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How did I luck out? I didn't renew my contract because I bought it off contract. Anyone else could do the same thing. No one forces you to use an upgrade.
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i thought everyone had to change their plan to one of the new ones regardless if they activated an evo on their account. if my last statement is correct (barring rulebending/sweetalking/retentions/ etc. or the oct. 1st sero rumor), then you are lucky to have your same plan (+$10).
StevenCCCP said:
I buy all my phones outright. I would have bought my Evo if I didn't get one free from Google. Only phone I ever got on-contract was my 1st gen iPhone. At this point I go through 2 phones a year so off contract is way cheaper for me.
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i used to get mine off contract, but with having to get the new plan, i just didn't see a reason. once again, your situation is somewhat different than the norm since you got the i/o phone, and since you switch phones so often, it would make sense as your phones retain most of their resale value. i guess my question goes out more to the people who are eligible for a full upgrade.
thanks for the replies
The additional $10 fee doesn't change or extend your plan. It just adds $10/month, the same way insurance adds $7/month.
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The additional $10 fee doesn't change or extend your plan. It just adds $10/month, the same way insurance adds $7/month.
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True, with OTHER PHONES. If you (or anyone else) were able to get by without having to change plans, cool, they just didn't write the terms that way for THIS PHONE.
"If you’re already a Sprint customer but have a different plan, you’ll have to change plans when you activate your device. Also, once you change your plan, you will not be able to change back to your old plan if we no longer sell it, even if you go back to your old phone."
Nothing in their verbage says you have to extend your contract of enter one if you pay full price or get it from another party, but the terms for the evo state that if you use the phone on sprint, you have to change your plan. will people be able to get away without having to? of course, but I already mentioned that in my last post.
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I got mine off contract, and the only thing that changed in my plan was adding the additonal $10 fee, which did not affect my contract expiration date (which is still October 1st).
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I thought Sprint was not selling them off-contract?
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True, with OTHER PHONES. If you (or anyone else) were able to get by without having to change plans, cool, they just didn't write the terms that way for THIS PHONE.
"If you’re already a Sprint customer but have a different plan, you’ll have to change plans when you activate your device. Also, once you change your plan, you will not be able to change back to your old plan if we no longer sell it, even if you go back to your old phone."
Nothing in their verbage says you have to extend your contract of enter one if you pay full price or get it from another party, but the terms for the evo state that if you use the phone on sprint, you have to change your plan. will people be able to get away without having to? of course, but I already mentioned that in my last post.
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I'm pretty sure that is for people on those ancient SERO plans that give them unlimited data for like $40. I already had an unlimited everything plan, so I just needed the $10 fee.
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I thought Sprint was not selling them off-contract?
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I got mine from Google I/O, but my local stores were selling them for the $450 MSRP.
goodelyfe said:
with google voice account... seems like sprint could turn your phone off and you could still have a phone...lol
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I am pretty sure that would only work where you have a WiFi signal, and you may be limited to no MMS, since MMS can't be sent/received over WiFI.
NOW, If you were to let sprint turn you off, and start an account with CLEAR for their WiFi and used your Google Voice number, I THINK you would have phone and Data Anywhere there is a Clear signal....
dj_jelly said:
Lol i laugh when customers tell me they arent due for an Upgrade. Ive upgraded 4 times this year. But yea there is NO way yo keep your old plan. The Evo is only compatible with the Everything Data Plan and the Simply Everything Plan. No exceptions. Ive tryed everything to get around it. I had to leave me Sero Plan to get the evo
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I'm confused...how did you get 4 upgrades in a year? I would love 4 upgrades a year. I could get another evo or epic for someone else on my plan.
beandogg said:
I'm confused...how did you get 4 upgrades in a year? I would love 4 upgrades a year. I could get another evo or epic for someone else on my plan.
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He's apparently an employee. Just do what I do: Keep your phone in very good condition and sell it when you get another one. I sold my ancient Hero for $300 when the EVO came out, which is more than the rebates.
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I am pretty sure that would only work where you have a WiFi signal, and you may be limited to no MMS, since MMS can't be sent/received over WiFI.
NOW, If you were to let sprint turn you off, and start an account with CLEAR for their WiFi and used your Google Voice number, I THINK you would have phone and Data Anywhere there is a Clear signal....
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thanks captain obvious.... i didnt write that cuz its an understood, right? besides, wifi is just about everywhere. meh @ MMS when you have email accounts. Sometimes you gotta sacrifice and venture other avenues to do what you like
Hello even tho i love my EVO i can't stand the internet speeds I am getting with sprint service, when i first bought this phone i was planing on using it as my main isp, but that is out of the questing with the 0.20mb dl i usually get, well just now i made a speedtest and i got 0.16mb download and 1.43mb upload...
tmobile didn't had 3g here in PR till like a month ago i already had evo since july 6.
but now tmobile is rolling 4g here with speeds of around 3mb dl stable (tested on vibrant phone)
I am thinking on moving back to tmobile once the mytouch 4g launches, but yeah I am on contract and looking for the possibilities i have without needing to pay 190 to get off contract and another 200 i assume for mytouch 4g.
is there any way around? is there a pay plan for the penalty
should i try sell the EVO on ebay? (never sold anything on ebay just bought some stuff)
any recomandations..
ohh yeah that mytouch 4g is looking sexy.
Options:
1 - Wait until they modify something service-related. You'll have your 30 day window to quit without ETF
2 - Move to an area that has no service for Sprint
3 - There is some website that can take over your contract but I dont recall whats the name of it... it basically allows you to dump your contract on someone else
4 - Pay up and be done with it?
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Options:
1 - Wait until they modify something service-related. You'll have your 30 day window to quit without ETF
2 - Move to an area that has no service for Sprint
3 - There is some website that can take over your contract but I dont recall whats the name of it... it basically allows you to dump your contract on someone else
4 - Pay up and be done with it?
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That's about the best and only suggestions I would give too.
Except #3 doesn't have to be done through a website. As long as you can find someone who is willing to take over your plan your account can be transferred to the other party without you having to pay any ETF. I don't know if the phone has to transfer along with it but if it does just sell your phone to the party accepting your plan.
Sell your phone on craigslist or ebay pay the cancel fee.
Have you flashed the latest radio? That seemed to help my speeds. I take it you aren't in a Sprint 4G market yet.
I feel your pain on the internet speeds man. I'm in the detroit area and the speeds here during the day are abysmal. I've thought about canceling but the cheap plan plus my discount is keeping me right with sprint.
As the others suggested, try to find someone who could take over your plan our just suck it up and pay the cancellation fee.
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1not trying to be funny but have someone call in and tell them you died they might cancel it no etf
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1not trying to be funny but have someone call in and tell them you died they might cancel it no etf
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epic fail !
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1not trying to be funny but have someone call in and tell them you died they might cancel it no etf
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If you went this route, they'd need proof that the subscriber did in fact perish. Usually it is a faxed copy of the death certificate.
Yeah, I love my Evo...but my 3G speeds are TERRIBLE, with that being said I highly doubt my area will be getting 4G anytime soon if ever. I have wifi but that's only useful when I'm home, which blows. And to the person who posted about them changing a terms of service agreement, or whatever, the 30 day window is activated again when that happens?
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They should atleast give us the option of not paying th$10 a month.
I thought 4g would have been out at least a year after the 4g phone came out.
Disappointing....
kthejoker20 said:
They should atleast give us the option of not paying th$10 a month.
I thought 4g would have been out at least a year after the 4g phone came out.
Disappointing....
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oh hi dead horse ...... i think your about to be beaten again
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oh hi dead horse ...... i think your about to be beaten again
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HA ha ha,
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Maybe so, but the op is right anyways. I have it in writing by 2 separate sprint techs that they would have it in my area by the end of 2010. Where is it, now halfway through 2011? No closer.
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Maybe so, but the op is right anyways. I have it in writing by 2 separate sprint techs that they would have it in my area by the end of 2010. Where is it, now halfway through 2011? No closer.
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blah blah blah
i have a ant uncles cousin brother 4 times removed that works for sprint that told me that 4g was going to be in my area launch day .... i think he was was yanking my chain ...
Got a little story to tell you about Sprint and this bogus "4G service fee".
My son had a Moment. The phone was locked up in a safe on an Army base where he wasn't going to be able to use it but once a week during the 6 months of his basic training so I cancelled the insurance. Apparently, they don't give special considerations to our military servicemen & women. Halfway through his training he gets hurt and sent home on a medical discharge. Now he is home and of course the phone gets broken. Since we aren't eligible for yearly upgrades anymore I had to reactivate my old Hero for him. I finish the activation on the webpage and it tells me there will be an additional 10.00 monthly fee for reactivating this phone. I called Sprint to find out why.
They tell me that this 10.00 is for premium data and applies to ALL new smartphones activated after April 1st. I told them that this isn't a NEW smartphone (it's actually a downgrade for him) and that it isn't NEW service. It didn't matter. I told the woman on the phone that when I activated my Evo I was told that 10.00 was for 4G service and the Hero isn't capable of 4G service. She told me that I'd been lied to. Her actual words were "I don't know why they told you that". She said that the additional 10.00 wasn't ever for 4G service, it's to keep my plan for that phone unlimited.
I argued about it. I told her that everything that kept me on Sprint was now gone and told them that I would not be renewing any of my contracts. She wished me luck on my upcoming Verizon service.
So yeah. Quit *****in about that 4G fee. That isn't what they're calling it anymore and according to the girl on the phone that night, that was never what it was for.
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When I got my EVO a year ago I enjoyed 4G in Cleveland, Columbus and Pittsburgh. I go to these cities once a month. In the last few months the signals have been weaker and drop out every few minutes. I have taken to switching back to 3G just to get constant data service. Sad
Since the fee now applies to all smartphones, regardless of 4G or not, your argument doesn't hold up. It might have before (debatable), but not now.
All I know is that sprint's 4g is garbage lol, the 3G is great though
I'd I wasn't on a serop act I wouldn't even consider sprint at full rate,
The difference in data speed and the ability to actually use it while moving lol, between verizon, tmobile and spring is too stark
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Since the fee now applies to all smartphones, regardless of 4G or not, your argument doesn't hold up. It might have before (debatable), but not now.
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If you have a sero plan they do charge an additional $10 for 4G phones only, so in my case the argument does indeed hold up.
Not sure if this is a deal or not but I purchased a Nexus at Bestbuy yesterday for $99.00. I upgraded one of my phones. The local VZW store had them for $149.00 but they did not have any in stock. This is the second phone I've purchased at Bestbuy and I really like dealing with them. Of course, I don't have my unlimited data plan anymore but that was bound to happen sooner or later. I'll just have to watch my data usage now.
PS. I really like this phone. lol.
bestbuy has good price however i would complain to your carriers customer care i wouldnt give up my unlimited without a fight
I'm assuming this is $99 with a new contract?
Not considered a great deal if you were required to sign a contract for it.
cool :highfive::highfive:
yeah it's $99 with a new contract.
wah wah wahhhhhh.
Try Newegg, its free as a new customer or $49 as an upgrade. They are also throwing in a free dock and $25 gift card.
This might sound like a crazy question but do you need a 4G plan to have a 4G phone?
I got grandfathered into the unlimited 3G plan on Verizon and was just wondering like what's stopping me from buying a Nexus and activating it myself?
stereoblind said:
This might sound like a crazy question but do you need a 4G plan to have a 4G phone?
I got grandfathered into the unlimited 3G plan on Verizon and was just wondering like what's stopping me from buying a Nexus and activating it myself?
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From what I understand if you try to upgrade now with a grandfathered unlimited plan they will force you to switch to a metered plan. The only away around it is to buy a non subsidized device at full price.
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From what I understand if you try to upgrade now with a grandfathered unlimited plan they will force you to switch to a metered plan. The only away around it is to buy a non subsidized device at full price.
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Alright, cool. That was my plan (paying full price) I was just afraid that after I activated it they'd make me switch to a 4G plan or whatever but I don't plan on going through them to get a new phone anyway
There were never separate 4G plans, its just that around the time most phones started coming with 4G, Verizon was making the switch to metered data. You could buy the HTC Thunderbolt before unlimited data for new customers ended and it was a 4G phone.
Basically if you want an "upgrade" for Verizon.You have to pay full retail price or buy it from someone,if you wanna keep your unlimited data as of the 29th of June.But I heard Verizon will eventually kick everybody off the unlimited plan in a year or two.
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ba_hamilton said:
Not sure if this is a deal or not but I purchased a Nexus at Bestbuy yesterday for $99.00. I upgraded one of my phones. The local VZW store had them for $149.00 but they did not have any in stock. This is the second phone I've purchased at Bestbuy and I really like dealing with them. Of course, I don't have my unlimited data plan anymore but that was bound to happen sooner or later. I'll just have to watch my data usage now.
PS. I really like this phone. lol.
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Yeah, I'd return it and get your unlimited back. Then call up VZW and ask to keep your plan. I did the sa,me thing with AT&T and they honored my unlimited plan.
Just thought i would pop in and say if you can find a Walmart with them in stock, last time I was at work they were .97¢ for upgrade or new line. So 99$ isn't a great deal
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Goobacks said:
Just thought i would pop in and say if you can find a Walmart with them in stock, last time I was at work they were .97¢ for upgrade or new line. So 99$ isn't a great deal
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Wow!!!
Is that for Verizon and upgrades only???
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