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Hi guys,
my first post here, but i spent a lot of time on this forum in the last days stealing information here and there so i would to thank you all for your incredible effort on get this phone better. Now i think it's time to share my thoughts about this smartphone, and ask for some doubts i have.
- Display: the size is awesome, but honestly i found it too much saturated, is there any way to change color saturation? Plus the reading is not that good... the characters, expecially without zoom, look too fuzzy. I have to admit that, imho, readability was better on my old iphone 3g. Someone feels like that? For multimedia, however, this screen is awesome.
- Lags: I can unfortunately notice some random lags while opening application or switching from market to installed apps, even with the oneclick lag fix (512 MB) installed (quadrant reports 2200+ score, if i remember correctly). I was tempted to try the hackheclair cooked rom, any advice about this?
- Battery: another pain. It seems that the phone drains the battery too fast in standby mode. In 6 hours (last night) it drained more than 20% of battery life. This sounds strange to me since many users reported an 1-2% battery drain during night. Please note that i killed all the applications and widgets before leaving the phone in standby. The only one thing that i'm unable to kill is the touchwiz UI, since i use launcherpro as default launcher. Do you know any way to kill the touchwiz UI?
- Memory: here is my biggest doubt. Shouldn't this phone carry 512 MB of RAM? When i check the running services the application reports a total of 256 MB of RAM. Where is the problem?
here are my phone details:
Firmware version JM5
Baseband XXJM3
Oneclick Lagfix applied
Sorry for the huge amount of questions, i heavy used the search engine but i haven't found any solution yet.
thanks
The3D said:
Hi guys,
my first post here, but i spent a lot of time on this forum in the last days stealing information here and there so i would to thank you all for your incredible effort on get this phone better. Now i think it's time to share my thoughts about this smartphone, and ask for some doubts i have.
- Display: the size is awesome, but honestly i found it too much saturated, is there any way to change color saturation? Plus the reading is not that good... the characters, expecially without zoom, look too fuzzy. I have to admit that, imho, readability was better on my old iphone 3g. Someone feels like that? For multimedia, however, this screen is awesome.
- Lags: I can unfortunately notice some random lags while opening application or switching from market to installed apps, even with the oneclick lag fix (512 MB) installed (quadrant reports 2200+ score, if i remember correctly). I was tempted to try the hackheclair cooked rom, any advice about this?
- Battery: another pain. It seems that the phone drains the battery too fast in standby mode. In 6 hours (last night) it drained more than 20% of battery life. This sounds strange to me since many users reported an 1-2% battery drain during night. Please note that i killed all the applications and widgets before leaving the phone in standby. The only one thing that i'm unable to kill is the touchwiz UI, since i use launcherpro as default launcher. Do you know any way to kill the touchwiz UI?
- Memory: here is my biggest doubt. Shouldn't this phone carry 512 MB of RAM? When i check the running services the application reports a total of 256 MB of RAM. Where is the problem?
here are my phone details:
Firmware version JM5
Baseband XXJM3
Oneclick Lagfix applied
Sorry for the huge amount of questions, i heavy used the search engine but i haven't found any solution yet.
thanks
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1. There is an app in the dev section to reduce text size, go check it out
2. That's odd, no lag in my end and i've applied One Click lagfix 1.5 .apk, i'm using SamSet's 1.9f ROM though.
3. At the moment there is no way to get rid of the TouchWiz UI but devs are working on a clean ROM, a Cyanogen mod ROM which is basically stock Android. Not too sure about the Battery issue, someone else can shed some light on that, but i do get 1-2% drop at night...
4. Eclair 2.1 does not utilize all of the RAM, and Samsung hasn't chosen to either, so we're all waiting for the final release of Froyo in a few weeks and then hopefully that will utilize all of the RAM, or there will be a workaround.
I was going to ask about the fuzzy text myself. It doesn't always seem to be so but a lot of the time the white titles of apps or text in widgets etc. It looks like it is a little out of focus but all images and coloured text appear pin sharp so far. Very odd.
your coming from an iphone 3g and your complaining about battery life and lag? you taking the piss?
and as for the screen, its better than any screen ive ever seen, i lol'ed when my mate put his iphone4 on full brightness and watched the battery go down in minutes, so dont go there with battery life.
try reading the forums and you'll find out that your problems have got a slightly better with more recent firmwares
sorry still ranting, 'fuzzy letters' roflmao!
MAMBO04 said:
1. There is an app in the dev section to reduce text size, go check it out
2. That's odd, no lag in my end and i've applied One Click lagfix 1.5 .apk, i'm using SamSet's 1.9f ROM though.
3. At the moment there is no way to get rid of the TouchWiz UI but devs are working on a clean ROM, a Cyanogen mod ROM which is basically stock Android. Not too sure about the Battery issue, someone else can shed some light on that, but i do get 1-2% drop at night...
4. Eclair 2.1 does not utilize all of the RAM, and Samsung hasn't chosen to either, so we're all waiting for the final release of Froyo in a few weeks and then hopefully that will utilize all of the RAM, or there will be a workaround.
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Actually the reason for limited memory is not Eclair. The amount of memory available is governed by the kernel and the kernel on the Galaxy S supports the full 512MB. However Samsung creates a large ramdisk on /tempfs (160MB) which explains why reported RAM is around 320MB.
As for the fuzzy fonts, this is the result of using PenTile matrix in the display. Just search for PenTile, there are many threads on these and other forums discussing that.
As for the fuzzy fonts, this is the result of using PenTile matrix in the display. Just search for PenTile, there are many threads on these and other forums discussing that.
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Is there a fix ?
Not without changing the entire screen.
After a while you get used to it, it's just jarring coming from a regular LCD screen.
Don't worry about the battery, it just needs to be broken in, be sure to charge it fully then use it till the phone shuts off then charge fully 3 or 4 times when you first get it. It took mine a week or 2 but now I get a couple days of fairly heavy use out of it compared to half a day when I first got it.
Another recommendation I will give is to try not to categorize this with another device. I came from a BlackBerry and as much as I hate to admit it, I had some BlackBerry withdrawal issues LOL
I'm now a happy camper and haven't experienced the lag too much. I did experience too much lag on JM5, downgraded to JM2 and lag is gone except for LauncherPro, so tried going back to TwLauncher, was happy, and now finding that ADw is a very good launcher in itself.
Bottom line for me is that I wish there were more apps with the same caliber as the App Store's, but it does what I need and more.
darkoroje said:
Actually the reason for limited memory is not Eclair. The amount of memory available is governed by the kernel and the kernel on the Galaxy S supports the full 512MB. However Samsung creates a large ramdisk on /tempfs (160MB) which explains why reported RAM is around 320MB.
As for the fuzzy fonts, this is the result of using PenTile matrix in the display. Just search for PenTile, there are many threads on these and other forums discussing that.
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Can anyone in late Eclair version's confirm the tmpfs theory (one way to do it would be to change the settings I guess so that the tmpfs is bigger, 200mb, and see if the ram drops)
Tachikoma_kun said:
Not without changing the entire screen.
After a while you get used to it, it's just jarring coming from a regular LCD screen.
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It would be better with a non serif font that was a little larger. Surely this is possible?
Look at the the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762116in the "Android Development" section for more details.
Nirvana388 said:
Don't worry about the battery, it just needs to be broken in, be sure to charge it fully then use it till the phone shuts off then charge fully 3 or 4 times when you first get it. It took mine a week or 2 but now I get a couple days of fairly heavy use out of it compared to half a day when I first got it.
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I'd bet money this is more than just a breaking in problem. The battery drain doesn't drop by 95% (20%->1%) after a few cycles. (more on this later).
The3D said:
Hi guys,
- Battery: another pain. It seems that the phone drains the battery too fast in standby mode. In 6 hours (last night) it drained more than 20% of battery life. This sounds strange to me since many users reported an 1-2% batt synery drain during night. Please note that i killed all the applications and widgets before leaving the phone in standby. The only one thing that i'm unable to kill is the touchwiz UI, since i use launcherpro as default launcher. Do you know any way to kill the touchwiz UI?
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First, let me ask, do you use a task killer other than the touchwiz task manager? Do you let it run at night? If so, stop, this will cause the 20% drain nearly by itself.
Next, look at the apps that you have installed? How many do you have installed? Maybe some are doing some heavy lifting at night when you are sleeping, this is almost definitely a sync and/or app related issue. Download Spare Parts to get more detailed information on your battery drain.
Here's the issue with the battery. First, the easiest way to fix the problem should be juicedefender and ultimatejuice, but it will cost like 1.99 or 2.99. Then set up sync and maybe 3G to go off at these hours.
Cheaper fix: turn sync off at night (I assume this is running, but actually, it might not be, you might just have random data going out). Also, potentially turn 3G data off at night, this actually prevents me from getting any data and that's what I've seen improve my battery life more than anything. ultimatejuice would make this automatic (I think).
I own both the iPhone 4 and SGS, and i agree that black and white text in the iPhone generally looks sharper and more crisp. I had been using the iPhone for about a week before finally being able to acquire the Galaxy S Vibrant off contract, and i really wasn't used to the display for the first day or two. I was surprised because so many people raved about the Super AMOLED screen, yet my eyes were so used to retina display, i was able to notice the pixels on the Galaxy S screen. After the first two days though i got used to it and it looks great to me now. Actually, i had gotten so used to the customizability, as well as the Menu and Back button, and the bigger screen size, the crisper graphics on the iPhone 4 is easily negated.
Anyways, if there is a way to make text look sharper on the SGS that would make it a perfect device for me.
my battery life last very good compared to other phones
i get around a day and half screen brightness full uses for about 5 hours
wifi turned on the entire time and very heavy use
when you first got the phone did you let it drain completely then charge it completely and repeat a few times or do you just plug it in when ever ?
i had the htc legend before and the battery sucked and as for the screen
im very pleased
my bad about the RAM question, must have got mixed up
The3D said:
- Display: the size is awesome, but honestly i found it too much saturated, is there any way to change color saturation? Plus the reading is not that good... the characters, expecially without zoom, look too fuzzy. I have to admit that, imho, readability was better on my old iphone 3g. Someone feels like that? For multimedia, however, this screen is awesome.
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I've directly compared this screen with the HTC Desire (both AMOLED and SLCD), the HTC HD2 and the iPhone 3G & 4.
For me, its definitely up there, but I kind of agree with you on the text, when zoomed out it's not that great. That said I disagree that the iPhone 3G is better on readability - the SGS definitely is better. It's only not that great when compared with an LCD of an equivalent resolution. The HD2, Desire SLCD and especially iPhone 4 (which is stunningly sharp for text). However, its better than the Desire AMOLED.
For general UI use, I'd put both Desires and the HD2 behind the SGS and iPhone.... on the whole between the SGS and iP4 I'd say it was a draw, with both looking very sharp, clear, and colourful - the SGS is more colourful, and larger, but the iP4 is simply sharper.
For viewing pictures and movies, the SGS is clearly the best, with the best constrast, subjective detail levels and plain looks the most impressive. EVERYONE has commented on how good it looks for this. On the iP4, this is its weakness - its small screen, almost-square aspect ratio and slightly duller colours make it far less impressive looking than any of the others.
I'd rank them as thus:-
=1 - SGS
=1 - iPhone 4
3 - HD2
4 - Desire SLCD
5 - Desire AMOLED
The3D said:
- Lags: I can unfortunately notice some random lags while opening application or switching from market to installed apps, even with the oneclick lag fix (512 MB) installed (quadrant reports 2200+ score, if i remember correctly). I was tempted to try the hackheclair cooked rom, any advice about this?
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The lags are disappointing IMO. With JM2, and the internal SD fix (cant even remember the name as there are that many fixes now), it was clearly better than stock, however not all animations are smooth, and there is a definite lag at times, seemingly fairly randomly too.
However, I've largely fixed that... some people seem to doubt autokiller, however, I can say it works for me - I set to strict or aggressive for the best results. I don't know why it works, and I can't argue against those that say it makes things worse, on paper at least, but my experience is different, it DEFINITELY helps.
Also, oddly, turning the GUI animations off too has made a significant difference. I still have the Launcher Pro animations (app drawer and pinch home screen view), and the gallery is still animated, but other GUI animations are disabled, and its a lot snappier, and I dont really miss it.
Now the only lag I get is the browser lag as in the link below, but even then Nicolocopus suggests a later firmware may fix it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764070&highlight=browser+lag
The3D said:
- Battery: another pain. It seems that the phone drains the battery too fast in standby mode. In 6 hours (last night) it drained more than 20% of battery life. This sounds strange to me since many users reported an 1-2% battery drain during night. Please note that i killed all the applications and widgets before leaving the phone in standby. The only one thing that i'm unable to kill is the touchwiz UI, since i use launcherpro as default launcher. Do you know any way to kill the touchwiz UI?
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Battery - the biggest drain IME is the 3G data connection. Make sure when you're in a place with wifi to leave wifi on over the 3G data connection. Make sure the phone isn't set to send the wifi to sleep (wifi sleep policy IIRC) as the data connection will kick in while the phone is asleep. Other than that, some drain through the course of a day is par for the course.
The other thing is the screen, turning down to minimum brightness is actually more than bright enough for indoor use, and seems to make a difference.
As for Launcherpro / Touchwiz, AFAIK once you set LauncherPro as default and then restart your phone, the home screen portion of Touchwiz (TWLauncher) is no longer running. You wont be able to get rid of TW completely unless a custom Vanilla ROM is made. Not all of it is THAT bad though, really.
The3D said:
- Memory: here is my biggest doubt. Shouldn't this phone carry 512 MB of RAM? When i check the running services the application reports a total of 256 MB of RAM. Where is the problem?
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Cant comment other than to say, I dont know about this, so many different "opinions" fly around - all I can say is Samsung advertised it as 512mb RAM, so I think they'd be pretty stupid to give you a phone with LESS RAM than advertised - but you never know, I guess.
alovell83 said:
I'd bet money this is more than just a breaking in problem. The battery drain doesn't drop by 95% (20%->1%) after a few cycles. (more on this later).
First, let me ask, do you use a task killer other than the touchwiz task manager? Do you let it run at night? If so, stop, this will cause the 20% drain nearly by itself.
Next, look at the apps that you have installed? How many do you have installed? Maybe some are doing some heavy lifting at night when you are sleeping, this is almost definitely a sync and/or app related issue. Download Spare Parts to get more detailed information on your battery drain.
Here's the issue with the battery. First, the easiest way to fix the problem should be juicedefender and ultimatejuice, but it will cost like 1.99 or 2.99. Then set up sync and maybe 3G to go off at these hours.
Cheaper fix: turn sync off at night (I assume this is running, but actually, it might not be, you might just have random data going out). Also, potentially turn 3G data off at night, this actually prevents me from getting any data and that's what I've seen improve my battery life more than anything. ultimatejuice would make this automatic (I think).
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Aside from all this... "killing all apps and widgets" does nothing to stop the biggest android battery killer, Google sync. Google sync is always running unless you disable it.
If you really want to see how long your phone lasts in stand by, install APNdroid and disable your data connection before you go to sleep. You will have miniscule battery use during the night if you do this.
The3D said:
Hi guys,
- Lags: I can unfortunately notice some random lags while opening application or switching from market to installed apps, even with the oneclick lag fix (512 MB) installed (quadrant reports 2200+ score, if i remember correctly). I was tempted to try the hackheclair cooked rom, any advice about this?
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I just upgraded to the new official DJG4 firmware and the lag has been reduced alot. It is now no slower in opening apps than my 3GS.
- Battery: another pain. It seems that the phone drains the battery too fast in standby mode. In 6 hours (last night) it drained more than 20% of battery life. This sounds strange to me since many users reported an 1-2% battery drain during night. Please note that i killed all the applications and widgets before leaving the phone in standby. The only one thing that i'm unable to kill is the touchwiz UI, since i use launcherpro as default launcher. Do you know any way to kill the touchwiz UI?
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On the old DJF4 firmware, with 3G and sync on, battery drops by 2% per hour on stand-by. With the new JG4 firmware, it is now 2% drop in 2.5 hours. This is much better compared to my iphone 3GS which loses 10-13% over 7 hours on standby with sync on.
- Memory: here is my biggest doubt. Shouldn't this phone carry 512 MB of RAM? When i check the running services the application reports a total of 256 MB of RAM. Where is the problem?
here are my phone details:
Firmware version JM5
Baseband XXJM3
Oneclick Lagfix applied
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Most software I had report 326Mb total instead of 256Mb. Which variant of sgs phone do you have? I have the galaxy s i9000.
yeah these batteries needs to be drained completely before charging again, else it doesn't hold proper charge
i always push it until the phone turns off (shutdowns completely) itself, then i change the battery pack
i cycle through 3 of them
Bobler420 said:
my battery life last very good compared to other phones
i get around a day and half screen brightness full uses for about 5 hours
wifi turned on the entire time and very heavy use
when you first got the phone did you let it drain completely then charge it completely and repeat a few times or do you just plug it in when ever ?
i had the htc legend before and the battery sucked and as for the screen
im very pleased
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Hey all,
Quick question - for some reason I have really dodgy battery life in any of the most recent Android builds. This includes the Sense HD and the SuperRAM builds, with both recent MDJ & Hastarain Kernels.
If I leave the device in my pocket for a couple of hours, in standby, the "Battery Use" claims the Display is the primary cause for my battery use.
Just looking at it now, Android System and Android OS are both on 12% and the display is at 57%. That's after the display being mostly off......
I've tried three ROMS, including VBN's Android build, an official 1.66 HTC build and an official 3.14 HTC build. Furthermore, I've tried the 2.15.50.14 and 2.10.50.28_2 Radio's, both recommended for good battery life.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Jon
I am wondering the same thing. I am running darkstone hd2 froyo v3 with hastarins 8.5.1 oldcam kernel, everything runs great but it says display is killing my battery. If there is anything I can do about this I would really like to know.
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technoob said:
I am wondering the same thing. I am running darkstone hd2 froyo v3 with hastarins 8.5.1 oldcam kernel, everything runs great but it says display is killing my battery. If there is anything I can do about this I would really like to know.
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Phew, it's not just me then! If I could be bothered I'd dig up an old sense build with and old kernel and see what happened. However I can't remember which one worked best as I change my ROM on what feels like a daily basis!
I have been using this as my daily build but I really wish there was something I could do about the battery drain. If it is something about the phone that I can't change or if a different kernel or something would help, I wish I knew. Any help would be appreciated.
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jonboyuk said:
Phew, it's not just me then! If I could be bothered I'd dig up an old sense build with and old kernel and see what happened. However I can't remember which one worked best as I change my ROM on what feels like a daily basis!
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it's not just you indeed, it's everyone there's at least two threads already about this.
Well, I dont really think its killing my battery life, however i did notice that its lower than when running winmo, I checked the settings and it says display is using 60% of power, I didnt really think anything of it as i guessed the display is easily the thing that requires the most power. So perhaps I have this problem too? I dont really know
Winmo I would get a day, perhaps a day and a half if i was lucky, android i get a day.
Samdeath said:
Well, I dont really think its killing my battery life, however i did notice that its lower than when running winmo, I checked the settings and it says display is using 60% of power, I didnt really think anything of it as i guessed the display is easily the thing that requires the most power. So perhaps I have this problem too? I dont really know
Winmo I would get a day, perhaps a day and a half if i was lucky, android i get a day.
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That's the thing you see, if the display is off for 2 hours, on for say 3-4 mins while I check my e-mail, it's still at a really high figure. Yes the display causes battery drain, but no where near that much.
I wonder if it's purely a kernel thing??
I only get 5% on my display battery drain.
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jose makalolot said:
I only get 5% on my display battery drain.
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are u using anything special for battery?
dapoharoun said:
are u using anything special for battery?
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Nope...
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I've noticed it depends what Android rom your using. The issue for me is either the Android System OS is using 60% & over or the display is using 60% and over. Either way the display or the system is the battery eater in my case lol.
DramatikBeats said:
I've noticed it depends what Android rom your using. The issue for me is either the Android System OS is using 60% & over or the display is using 60% and over. Either way the display or the system is the battery eater in my case lol.
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What eating mine is cell standby and wifi, both 35-40% while android system is only 20% and display is 5%.
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My display always takes up more than 60% of the power usage, but I have had builds where it's reported very low, I don't pay much attention to that anymore, they're probably not that accurate.
I did ran a quick test the other day of battery usage in winmo vs android. In standby both android and winmo were about 3-6ma. On the dimmest setting with no app running, winmo used 78ma, and android used 95ma, so it's a little higher, but not extreme.
I'm running at a crazy 67%...
For the heck of it, turned off all radio, left thephone @ 70%. Came back 1 hour later, tells me this percentage and the phone is at 63%...
Weather it's the Cell Standby, Display, Wifi or the Android OS, something is always taking power. If your phone drains completely in an hour or a day, the battery usage is just telling you what is drawing the most power percentage wise. 3mA or 300mA, it accounts for 100% of what's being used,screen off or not.
My android os only uses like 5% maximum, display is usually 60 though
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Guys, you need to correctly interpret the percentage values...
greg17477 said:
Guys, you need to correctly interpret the percentage values...
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What do you mean?
So I've flashed Juwe's Smart Edition v4.3.1 recently, and after some usage, I have found it worthy of a review. I must say that I really like it, and find it the best ROM I've used so far.
Here's the official thread in case you want to try it out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=964672
Juwe's is a JVH based, deodexed, CWM'ed, rooted/busyboxed(as usual) ROM with many more features. I found the following features highly advantageous:
Includes all Google Apps, which some custom ROMs lack
Includes Spare Parts+ and SGS Tools which have many cool features like script shortcuts, phone keypad secret codes, controlling window animation speeds etc.
As stock apps are deodexed, they can be safely removed and when they are removed, they can be backed up.
Includes Launcher Pro, which is CLEARLY the best and fastest launcher in my opinion.
Shows battery percentage on the notification bar, a feature which will please most users I presume
Comes with a black/white theme with some ugliness here and there, a good looking theme nonetheless.
A truly EPIC sleep animation, you'll understand when you see it
Very good looking window animations.
Includes an EXT4 filesystem converter which can convert /system /data /datadata and /cache to EXT4 and back to RFS.
Nearly all unlock screens available on any Android device can be chosen from.
INCREDIBLY low power consumption when sleeping (screen off, device on) compared to the stock JVH (it literally drinks the battery contents). Note that the HSPDA data connection is ON at all times.
Fairly low power consumption when talking on the phone (stock JVH consumes a lot of power on this task also).
Average power consumption when screen is on and the device is used. Note that window animations are fully enabled and Digital Rain live wallpaper is displayed on the background(which consumes a very large amount of power).
Average power consumption on WiFi, decent signal.
Amazing GPS. Absolutely fantastic connection speed, very low power consumption.
However, there are also some minor points that need repair or change:
Compass doesn't work.
Screen brightness seems to adjust itself randomly and poorly indoors, resulting in an abrupt brightness change every 10 seconds or so.
SGS Tools cannot find busybox?? Sorry for misreading, it says "If it says 'cannot find busybox' install it from the market".
The looks of the pop-up menus (accessed with the menu key) seem to lack that final touch.
OMG please replace that terrible bootanimation!
Note: The Android OS battery drain problem exists (as expected). This will only be fixed with an official firmware release.
Solution to the compass problem: Go to Settings -> Display -> Horizontal calibration -> Place device on a level suface and hit the button
There are also some other unfinished tests that needs doing:
Longterm WiFi quality/power consumption is not checked yet.
No "Gingerbread Android OS battery drain bug" encountered yet. Cannot be sure.
GPS is not tested yet, as it requires that I get off my lazy ass and go outside
Hope these observations clear the minds of people who consider trying Juwe's out.
Yes, Juwe has done a good job.
4.3.1 doesn't drain battery much. When I had other ROMs, the process 'Android OS' mostly needed 63% of the battery, with this ROM only 2 - 10.
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Lunchbox115 said:
Yes, Juwe has done a good job.
4.3.1 doesn't drain battery much. When I had other ROMs, the process 'Android OS' mostly needed 63% of the battery, with this ROM only 2 - 10.
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Your problem being the one explained here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039696, I must say that even without the drain issue, other/stock ROMs drain much power.
If you post the "defects" that you found (as well as this full review) in the original rom thread, I´m pretty sure that Juwe will be glad to help you.
Screen brightness seems to adjust itself randomly and poorly indoors, resulting in an abrupt brightness change every 10 seconds or so.
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choose another kernel !
SGS Tools cannot find busybox???
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false !
equilibriumtr said:
Your problem being the one explained here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039696, I must say that even without the drain issue, other/stock ROMs drain much power.
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However, I had this problem with lots of other ROMs (even with (Juwe's 4.3), but not with 4.3.1.
And I don't have any problems with busybox.
If you don't like the bootanimation, you can easily change it. Download one of the bootanimations here one XDA, copy it to your sd-card and copy the *.zip-file to system/media and rename it to bootanimation.zip.
GPS works great.
I know how to change the boot animation, I just think that this ROM deserves a slicker one.
saphirrot said:
false !
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Do you need a screenshot? Why would I lie about this?
Anyway, I tested wifi and GPS. Wifi is good, consumes average power but GPS is very fine indeed. I'm updating the review.
Been on Juwe's 4.3.1 for a week now. Only GB ROM I've used so far. Gotta say I love it. But for the last couple of days I have been experiencing the android os battery drain. Will be looking into it after I get home from my vacation.
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rodeo_calling said:
Been on Juwe's 4.3.1 for a week now. Only GB ROM I've used so far. Gotta say I love it. But for the last couple of days I have been experiencing the android os battery drain. Will be looking into it after I get home from my vacation.
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Unfortunately, I too have experienced the battery drain issue today. I'm not too disappointed though, this is known to be a general JVH/JVO problem, and the fix must be done by Samsung/Google. Updating the main post.
Ok, I have found the solution to the compass problem. Updating the main post.
Thanks for th review mate. Wanted to try Juwe's ROM, will do it when I go home tonight.
Ok, I think I've misread the message given by the SGS tools, updating the main post.
how is the camera working?
and is there any problems with double market downloading?
also does it have an SNS Facebook sync??
TNX
I have recently acquired an Iphone 4 to go along with my galaxy S, time to do some comparisons!
Iphone 4: 4.3.3
SGS: CM7 #16
Battery Life
Standby time (8 hours)
------------------------------Iphone 4----------SGS
2G only:-------------------------0%------------2-5%
Wifi & gmail Push:---------------1-3%-----------3-8%
Internet use, per hour
(50% brightness)
------------------------------Iphone 4----------SGS
Wifi:----------------------------10%------------25%
3G:-----------------------------15-20%-------30-35%
Video Playback, per hour
(Standard Definition, 50% brightness)
-------------------------------Iphone 4---------SGS
---------------------------------10%-----------20-25%
Video Playback, per hour
(720p Software Decode on Both Phones, 50% brightness) <-- VERY DEMANDING
-------------------------------Iphone 4---------SGS
---------------------------------31%-----------49%
Screen On Idle, per hour
(aeroplane mode on, BLACK screen, 50% brightness)
-------------------------------Iphone 4---------SGS
---------------------------------4%-------------9%
Considering this was on a black screen (AMOLED supposedly drains 0% on black) the SGS should have outperformed the IP4 easily. Did not happen...
Screen On Idle, per hour
(aeroplane mode on, WHITE screen, 50% brightness)
-------------------------------Iphone 4---------SGS
---------------------------------6%-------------25%
Wifi Radio Stream, per hour
-------------------------------Iphone 4---------SGS
---------------------------------8%-----------10-11% (pretty good)
Overall, the IPhone 4's battery at least doubles the SGS's which is very impressive. You genuinely do get 10 hours usage out of it browsing and playing games which is much better than the 4 hours or so on the galaxy s.
Yes i understand CM7 is still beta software and the idle (and 3g) drain isn't as good as samsung rom's but the screen-on drain is about the same.
Benchmarks
V8
------------------------------Iphone 4----------SGS
--------------------------------N/A-------------500 !
Browsermark
------------------------------Iphone 4----------SGS
--------------------------------38K-------------49K !
The Galaxy S actually benches higher due to the Iphone 4 being only 750mhz, for web browsing i would say the Galaxy S is faster.
Responsiveness
The Iphone 4's touch screen cant be beat, it just doesn't have the delay or hiccups that android phones do, the animations are also very smooth.
However IOS isn't without it's flaws, it does lag occasionally in the settings page and while web browsing.
I have had my Galaxy S for a year now, and after using the Iphone 4 for about a week i can see what Apple fans mean when they say 'it just works'.
If only it didn't costs £500
Hmm, interesting results. Isn't CM7 notorious for having poor battery life?
yeah i second that. Great testing, but ideally it should be between Stock Iphone 4 and Stock SGS - Froyo.
but we cant have it all, apple iphone may have better battery life, but the SGS has freedom of open source thats worth it IMO
azzledazzle said:
yeah i second that. Great testing, but ideally it should be between Stock Iphone 4 and Stock SGS - Froyo.
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Stock SGS is a laggy POS though
true !! but i didnt experience much lag with the later versions of froyo, JS8 for example was great for me, and battery life is MUCH better on a stock ROM.
undoubtedly SGS is only at its best when its been customised to do so. Apple is good out of the box, but as you said, it is not without its flaws
The iphone 4 is a very good phone, it feels allot nicer in the hand (allthough it would break easily) and the overall performance is much better then android.
The screen is also awesome, although a little small and the colours are dull compared to an amoled. If they can make a 4" version with improved colour gamut and contrast it would be killer.
You are paying almost double the price of an SGS though, for technically equivalent hardware.
That's why the Iphone 4 is going back and the sgs stays, till renewal time atleast.
Thx a lot for that comparison...
I just got a i9000 because i wanted a big screen and the s II is too expensive.
I am so disappointed with the battery life...i had a iphone 4 before the defy and the battery life was great !
The battery life on the defy was not as good but ok, and became as good as the iphone with proper underclocking and undervolting.
The galaxy s is under 2.3.3 JVH rom with lagfix and chainfire kernel and even on idle with no push mail or update the battery is crap.
I'm going to do some test with my stock defy(no undervolting) and i'll give you the results.
Morever i think super amoled is so overratted ! Colors are oversaturated, and whites are blue. Think i'm gonna sell it soon...
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Morever i think super amoled is so overratted ! Colors are oversaturated, and whites are blue. Think i'm gonna sell it soon...
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The whites are indeed blue, serious Quality and Control issue there with samsung.
Samoled is pretty good though, compared to a lcd the colours are awesomely vibrant, personal preference i guess.
should have used the latest stock Froyo 2.2.1 for testing, not CM7...
I have awesome battery life with this version... 3 days with moderate use and 2 days with heavier use...
Try bujv9 rom. Miles better battery performance. I'm using stockrom v2 with damiens gto beta 7.
Sent via ET and he phoned it in.
To those saying stock roms are better, do some tests then compare them to my results.
With the SGS i have never got less than 20% batter use per hour of screen on, even on stock roms (minimum brightness doesn't count...)
android53 said:
I have recently acquired an Iphone 4 to go along with my galaxy S, time to do some comparisons!
Iphone 4: 4.3.3
SGS: CM7 #16
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Useless comparison :
_ Your SGS have a year and the iPhone4 is new, old battery versus new battery.
_ CM7 is just huge battery eater and still in beta. Use stock ROM.
_ You can change color temp with custom kernel for SGS, thing that NEVER happen on iPhone and they don't really need, IPS is not AMOLED (and O stands for ORGANIC !! Tint will change from blue to yellow on the SGS).
_ you can have many battery gain with custom Kernel (like SpeedMod).
android53 said:
To those saying stock roms are better, do some tests then compare them to my results.
With the SGS i have never got less than 20% batter use per hour of screen on, even on stock roms (minimum brightness doesn't count...)
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I usually hold 2 to 3 days with a single charge, so it's about 1 to 2 percent average per hour... Stock JVO, battery was fully drained then fully charge right after I flashed a new rom.
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I usually hold 2 to 3 days with a single charge, so it's about 1 to 2 percent average per hour... Stock JVO, battery was fully drained then fully charge right after I flashed a new rom.
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I was talking about 20% per hour when the screen is on. to last 3 days your phone must be idle all the time.
.Slane. said:
Useless comparison :
_ Your SGS have a year and the iPhone4 is new, old battery versus new battery.
_ CM7 is just huge battery eater and still in beta. Use stock ROM.
_ You can change color temp with custom kernel for SGS, thing that NEVER happen on iPhone and they don't really need, IPS is not AMOLED (and O stands for ORGANIC !! Tint will change from blue to yellow on the SGS).
_ you can have many battery gain with custom Kernel (like SpeedMod).
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I know that it is a year old, however i ran battery tests when i first got the phone and yes, the idle drain on stock roms is less then cm7, but the actual 'usage' drain with cm7 is pretty much the same as stock roms.
The only reason CM7 has bad battery is because it doesn't sleep properly, and ril bugs causing 3g to drain allot.
I know i can change the colour temperature, but i shouldn't have to break my warranty to do that.
Trust me, i have flashed my SGS hundreds of times, i have tried all the kernel and rom combinations, the only thing that has ever improved between them was idle drain.
Interesting test incoming
SGS VS Iphone 4
Software decoding 720p vid
airplane mode, same percieved brightness.
android53 said:
I was talking about 20% per hour when the screen is on. to last 3 days your phone must be idle all the time.
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I usually use the device once every 2 to 3 days to jog, so I'm using GPS, music player and bluetooth during at least 45 minutes. JVO doesn't seem as good as when I was using speedmod optimisations, but still, I can hold 2 to 3 days of normal useage.
Have you ever let it drain completely, so that you can't even turn it on and, while the device is off, let it charges completely? Usually when I flash a new rom, the first "drain" is realy fast but after you do a full drain/charge, it's pretty good
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Have you ever let it drain completely, so that you can't even turn it on and, while the device is off, let it charges completely? Usually when I flash a new rom, the first "drain" is realy fast but after you do a full drain/charge, it's pretty good
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I've had it for a year lol, of course i have done that
android53 said:
I know that it is a year old, however i ran battery tests when i first got the phone and yes, the idle drain on stock roms is less then cm7, but the actual 'usage' drain with cm7 is pretty much the same as stock roms.
The only reason CM7 has bad battery is because it doesn't sleep properly, and ril bugs causing 3g to drain allot.
I know i can change the colour temperature, but i shouldn't have to break my warranty to do that.
Trust me, i have flashed my SGS hundreds of times, i have tried all the kernel and rom combinations, the only thing that has ever improved between them was idle drain.
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CM7 equals ton Samsung ROM + SpeedMod ?! Surely *BEST JOKE EVER* !!
Try to stand nearly 3 days (70h) with CM7 without charging. I manage to do this with JSD PDA + JQ1 Modem + SpeedMod K13E, and when I tried CM7 two weeks ago with TKglich kernel (was better than stock CM7) I only manage to keep the phone about 40h with the SAME usage..
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CM7 equals ton Samsung ROM + SpeedMod ?! Surely *BEST JOKE EVER* !!
Try to stand nearly 3 days (70h) with CM7 without charging. I manage to do this with JSD PDA + JQ1 Modem + SpeedMod K13E, and when I tried CM7 two weeks ago with TKglich kernel (was better than stock CM7) I only manage to keep the phone about 40h with the SAME usage..
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I have already told you that i understand samsung roms have better IDLE drain. Having a phone sitting in your pocket doing nothing for day's isn't impressive, my old nokia did it for weeks.
Go browse the net or watch a video for 10 hours straight on one charge then i'll be interested
Anybody else experiencing this issue?
I looked everywhere but found no real solution.......
Tried flashing new rom no luck ...
This was quite common with the S2, what you can try is to power off your phone and remove the battery for 20-30mins, if the same issue occurs either the battery sensor is messed up or IDK.
Happened with my infuse in the summer out in the sunlight and i posted a topic in there about it. They say its normal
Well I tried this still not working .....
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Same problem here. Even i charge my Note also is heating. Dun know why.
Screen bright again
I dont know what cause this problem, but I got the same thing on my phone. A temporarily solution is to install Brightness Level from Android Market. It does not fix the problem in the system settings but it makes your screen 100% bright again
opiujn said:
I dont know what cause this problem, but I got the same thing on my phone. A temporarily solution is to install Brightness Level from Android Market. It does not fix the problem in the system settings but it makes your screen 100% bright again
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Maximum brightness? trying to get blind?
just joking....
Why so much brightness?
You know that you will get burn-in sooner with so much brightness?
yea sometimes its like a heatpad on my thigh jeans pocket
Well for me it dissapeared suddenly... I'm happy
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Jeshter2000 said:
Anybody else experiencing this issue?
I looked everywhere but found no real solution.......
Tried flashing new rom no luck ...
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I got this issue before , here is my solation
Use titanium backup to wipe the setting/wallpaper
Than u can adjust brightness but can't set wallpapers
Reboot your phone ...and everything good like before
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Well for me it dissapeared suddenly... I'm happy
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Problems that go away on their own, come back on their own...
Is there a way to remove this protection?
When I have the gps in the car I get that all the time, even if the phone is not hot at all, very annoying because with the sun and sunglasses -> cant see the screen very well.. stupid!
If you have one of those tpu softcases you will not know whether or not your note is hot just by the feel. Those cases are terrific insulators. I had overheating with the Note on GPS and charging. It actually shut down once and dropped out of the GPS signal a couple of times. Took the Nillikin case off and found that the whole phone was very hot.
After the case was removed I continued the trip with four days of continuous GPS and on charge with no problems. Even with the TPU naked, it still got pretty warm at the top half of the phone, but worked fine with brightness set pretty high. I think this is normal for the Note
[FiX] Galaxy Note ICS OVERHEATING PROBLEM SOLVED
[FiX] Galaxy Note ICS OVERHEATING PROBLEM SOLVED:
1 Go to settings- developer options - UNCHECK "Dont keep activities"
2 Use go launcher ex (or some other good launcher...) instead of default launcher
3 Instal from google play android assistant and use it to clean cache and stop most of background process
4 install from google play "cpu master free" (MUST HAVE ROOTED PHONE) and set 1000 MHz for MAXIMUM, and check box "set on boot"
P.S. DO NOT expect that your phone will be cold as ice after you do this...
ICS is build that you can use max. out of dual core, and galaxy note is pretty slim and back is made out of plastic...All that increase heating problem...
Hope i helped! =D
download the free version of "watchdog" and it will give you an alert if any software uses a lot of cpu power, you might have to go into setting and add system process to the watch list, you can also whitelist and blacklist program so they are killed as soon as they cpu usage goes above a certain level, though this might be pro version only.
Only use watchdog to find the problem and then remove it as it can use quite a bit of cpu power itself.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwyLDYsImNvbS56b211dC53YXRjaGRvZ2xpdGUiXQ..
John.
Having modded the framework for my rom to include lower brightness mod i can say that the values set in the decompiled framework are virtually the same as gb values infact brightness was increased at the lowest level from 32 in gb to 40 in ics with powersaving mode set to 32 in ics
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thering1975 said:
Having modded the framework for my rom to include lower brightness mod i can say that the values set in the decompiled framework are virtually the same as gb values infact brightness was increased at the lowest level from 32 in gb to 40 in ics with powersaving mode set to 32 in ics
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I see no difference at 38 and below in LQ3. The lowest dim at 39. At 40 the brightness will then increase.
legion1911 said:
Maximum brightness? trying to get blind?
just joking....
Why so much brightness?
You know that you will get burn-in sooner with so much brightness?
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Hi legion =)
I most often use phone at 100% brightness simply just because I like it when the screen is bright and clear, colors appear nicely too on high brightness. And outdoors in sunlight its sometimes hard to see whats on the screen even though brightness is set to 100%. You were right about the burn-in. Can see some burn-in if looking very carefully, depending on what colors there are on the screen over the burn-int areas. But still they are so weak and hard to notice even when you know where to look for those areas that I will probably have bought a galaxy note 2 or maybe even 3 before they appear clearly visible and too annoying to endure
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Chaimfire made an app called "root dim "
Does as it says
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I use the goku kernel together with the LRQ stock rom and my phone does not overheet. Sure it gets hot when charging or surfing the web, especially with wifi on. But this has been normal with all smartphones I have owned so far.
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