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gents,
i have an unlocked MyTouch, but i'm using it on russian Beeline network and i get no 3G. GPRS works fine and 3g icon showed up ones when i was setting up GPRS, but it never since came up.
I know for sure that provider supports it. Any thing I can do?
is there a way to check locked status of the phone?
thanks
dialbat said:
gents,
i have an unlocked MyTouch, but i'm using it on russian Beeline network and i get no 3G. GPRS works fine and 3g icon showed up ones when i was setting up GPRS, but it never since came up.
I know for sure that provider supports it. Any thing I can do?
is there a way to check locked status of the phone?
thanks
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Are you sure the network uses the same 3G frequencies as t-mobile? There are different sets of frequencies for 3G. For example, the ones t-mobile uses are different than most US providers.
If it works on your network at all then the phone is indeed unlocked.
is it possible to tweak with frequencies maybe at the rom level or are they hard coded?
dialbat said:
is it possible to tweak with frequencies maybe at the rom level or are they hard coded?
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It is most likely the radio can not transmit at any other frequencies (hardware limitation). Even if it were possible, you would need to be able modify the radio firmware to make it happen.
happy thoughts, happy thoughts, happy thoughts.....
thanks
Unfortunately you won't be able to get 3G outside of T-Mobile as I am pretty sure no other company uses 1700/2100 for 3G, even outside the US.
stoneyjonez said:
Unfortunately you won't be able to get 3G outside of T-Mobile as I am pretty sure no other company uses 1700/2100 for 3G, even outside the US.
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Actually, i'm using it on a regional US carrier that uses the same frequency, and at least one provider in Canada uses it as well. I would guess there may be a few others.
Edit: WIND Mobile, Mobilicity, and Videotron in Canada use the same as t-mobile.
Well since your not using tmobile as the provider your problem is you don't have the correct apn settings for your provider you can google them or ask your provider for the apn settings.
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no, my GPRS works fine, it's 3G i was talking about.
Are you sure your provider uses the same spectrum as tmobile it goes from 1700-1799/2100-2199 that's a broad spectrum if you know what I mean.
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Well, they probably don't, but as was mentioned by falken98, it is possible to modify radio firmware to make it work for other 3G provider.
Do guys here in development do that kind of mods?
It doesn't have to do with the firmware its hardcoded on the chip.
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Hi, im in Jamaica, using my HTC MyTouch 4 G but unfortunately my phone refuse to connect to more than EDGE speed on any of the mobile network, it is unlocked & therefore able to use any SIM but no matter which networks i connect to this phone refuse to go any faster than edge. Today I tried my SIM in another phone which is an Iphone 3G, and it instantly picked up 3G speed so it prove that the problem is with my phone & not the networks, can anybody give some advice? My internet settings are all correct & entered by the technicians at all the respectful phone companies
Did you do factory restore settings.. or just factory reset the whole phone..ooh are you on Android 2.1 or 2.3. Also go to network mode and see if its not on GSM only.
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jamgirl said:
Hi, im in Jamaica, using my HTC MyTouch 4 G but unfortunately my phone refuse to connect to more than EDGE speed on any of the mobile network, it is unlocked & therefore able to use any SIM but no matter which networks i connect to this phone refuse to go any faster than edge. Today I tried my SIM in another phone which is an Iphone 3G, and it instantly picked up 3G speed so it prove that the problem is with my phone & not the networks, can anybody give some advice? My internet settings are all correct & entered by the technicians at all the respectful phone companies
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the mytouch 4g and all other tmobile phones will only have 3g/4g on tmobile networks. this is because the bands that the mytouch 4g and other tmobile devices have are different from most of the world's. so unless another carrier has the same bands as tmobile, 1700/2100/AWS, EDGE will be the fastest you get. the iPhone 3G is capable of 3G because it's band is the same as most of the world's carriers network bands for 3G: 850 / 1900 / 2100.
this doesn't have anything to do with factory resetting the phone or whatever. it is simply hardware.
hope this sheds some light for you.
jamgirl said:
Hi, im in Jamaica, using my HTC MyTouch 4 G but unfortunately my phone refuse to connect to more than EDGE speed on any of the mobile network, it is unlocked & therefore able to use any SIM but no matter which networks i connect to this phone refuse to go any faster than edge. Today I tried my SIM in another phone which is an Iphone 3G, and it instantly picked up 3G speed so it prove that the problem is with my phone & not the networks, can anybody give some advice? My internet settings are all correct & entered by the technicians at all the respectful phone companies
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The reason it worked in the iPhone is that T-Mobile and att use different 3g bands and the hardware in those phones is only setup to work on those bands. Before you buy a phone, unlocked you should find out what bands your local networks use.
saranhai said:
the mytouch 4g and all other tmobile phones will only have 3g/4g on tmobile networks. this is because the bands that the mytouch 4g and other tmobile devices have are different from most of the world's. so unless another carrier has the same bands as tmobile, 1700/2100/AWS, EDGE will be the fastest you get. the iPhone 3G is capable of 3G because it's band is the same as most of the world's carriers network bands for 3G: 850 / 1900 / 2100.
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Just some semantics: "most of the world" uses 2100 band, which makes MT4G compatible with most existing networks in Europe and around the world. Americas (both North and South), on the other hand, happen to use mostly 850 and 1900 bands, uncommon in the rest of the world, which are indeed incompatible with MT4G.
Am still confused.. even some people and parts of the united states people still fall on or can't get pass edge..anyway...
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As long as you don't have a compatible-band cellular tower of your carrier in vicinity, you won't get 3G. Not all cellular towers support 3G.
And if your carrier's band(s) aren't compatible, then you never get 3G.
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Am still confused.. even some people and parts of the united states people still fall on or can't get pass edge..anyway...
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That's because they can't get good signal where they live.
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saranhai said:
the mytouch 4g and all other tmobile phones will only have 3g/4g on tmobile networks. this is because the bands that the mytouch 4g and other tmobile devices have are different from most of the world's. so unless another carrier has the same bands as tmobile, 1700/2100/AWS, EDGE will be the fastest you get. the iPhone 3G is capable of 3G because it's band is the same as most of the world's carriers network bands for 3G: 850 / 1900 / 2100.
this doesn't have anything to do with factory resetting the phone or whatever. it is simply hardware.
hope this sheds some light for you.
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thanks so so much to everyone who took time out to answer my question, i am no more happier than when i asked my question unfortunately but i am so much wiser and now with more knowledge, lol , i know now what i need to do, get rid of the phone and get myself a more compatible phone...unless there is a way to manipulate or change the network factory/hardware settings in the phone???...any ideas?
Nope. Some phones are restricted to certain bands by software (radio build), but unfortunately this restriction seems to be in HW.
jamgirl said:
thanks so so much to everyone who took time out to answer my question, i am no more happier than when i asked my question unfortunately but i am so much wiser and now with more knowledge, lol , i know now what i need to do, get rid of the phone and get myself a more compatible phone...unless there is a way to manipulate or change the network factory/hardware settings in the phone???...any ideas?
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With some God like skills you may be able to remove the HW antenna from a T-Mobile phone and replace the one in this phone. While I would not suggest it. I didn't want to tell you there was NO way to do it.
I hope someone in this thread can answer the same kinda question for me, but in a different way. Right now I'm in the United States on Simple Mobile's 40$ 3G Plan, but I noticed on my MyTouch 4G (Running the latest RoyalGinger) that I am connected at 4G speeds, however shouldn't my indicator for Data/internet connector on the phone read off as 3G instead of 4G? When i ran a bandwidth test on my phone from DSL Reports Mobile Speed Test, I got the following from a 100k file.
124 kbit/sec
0.287s latency
6.72s d/l time
Is that how fast 3G usually is? or should I be going faster? Thanks to anyone who can help.
Hi,
Anyone tested on GT-i9305 , does it work with DC-HSPA+ network ?
Dovern said:
Hi,
Anyone tested on GT-i9305 , does it work with DC-HSPA+ network ?
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Yep it does
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Yep it does
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Have you test it? What speed can you get? and what symbol it display when you hook on DC-HSPA+ network?
Dovern said:
Have you test it? What speed can you get? and what symbol it display when you hook on DC-HSPA+ network?
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I know because it's on the spec sheet for i9305 Australia don't think it would show different symbol should still be h+
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Ausboy 2011 said:
I know because it's on the spec sheet for i9305 Australia don't think it would show different symbol should still be h+
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This is what i thought too. We dont have LTE in my country yet but DC-HSPA+ is available in many places. When i test with my USB modem (42Mbps supported) , i able to get download speed like 15Mbps where my i9305 only 5-6Mbps. I did the test at same location, same time.
I check the network monitor apps, it shown my phone connected to HSPA+ (21.6Mbps).. not DC.. but i m within strong DC coverage area.
Dovern said:
This is what i thought too. We dont have LTE in my country yet but DC-HSPA+ is available in many places. When i test with my USB modem (42Mbps supported) , i able to get download speed like 15Mbps where my i9305 only 5-6Mbps. I did the test at same location, same time.
I check the network monitor apps, it shown my phone connected to HSPA+ (21.6Mbps).. not DC.. but i m within strong DC coverage area.
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May seem like a silly question but does your mobile carrier support DC?
If its the same provider as the dongle then it obviously does but that's not clear from the post.
baileyjr said:
May seem like a silly question but does your mobile carrier support DC?
If its the same provider as the dongle then it obviously does but that's not clear from the post.
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If my carrier does not support DC-HSPA+, i wouldn't create a new topic to discuss.
Yes, my mobile carrier support DC.
Dovern said:
If my carrier does not support DC-HSPA+, i wouldn't create a new topic to discuss.
Yes, my mobile carrier support DC.
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Well with my I9305 My highest speed on DC-HSPA+ is almost 12mbs and my network is **** and they are also upgrading the network in my area and they are the last network to have 4g they should have it early 2013. I already bought a telstra sim and I am going to activate it soon to test it as they have very good 4G coverage, My freind reached 40mb+ download with his I9305 ON 4G with telstra.
I think i explained all this in the other thread regarding apps showing certain things, Your app most probably doesnt show DC-HSPA+ because some countries call it different and depends where the app was created. With the app called (Radio Mon) when i am connected to DC it shows (HSPA) where as the I9300 shows (HSDPA) but both phones show the H+ symbol. When I did some research on HSPA vs HSDPA I got the hint that HSPA is the more potentially faster one Im sure i already said this in the last thread when you asked this question
btemtd said:
Well with my I9305 My highest speed on DC-HSPA+ is almost 12mbs and my network is **** and they are also upgrading the network in my area and they are the last network to have 4g they should have it early 2013. I already bought a telstra sim and I am going to activate it soon to test it as they have very good 4G coverage, My freind reached 40mb+ download with his I9305 ON 4G with telstra.
I think i explained all this in the other thread regarding apps showing certain things, Your app most probably doesnt show DC-HSPA+ because some countries call it different and depends where the app was created. With the app called (Radio Mon) when i am connected to DC it shows (HSPA) where as the I9300 shows (HSDPA) but both phones show the H+ symbol. When I did some research on HSPA vs HSDPA I got the hint that HSPA is the more potentially faster one Im sure i already said this in the last thread when you asked this question
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I believe you should be using Vodafone? haha...
Anyway, 12Mbps on DC-HSPA+ is consider very good speed. WHen i use USB modem, i able to get speed like you or something it hit 15Mbps++, in the same location, same time, my i9305 only able to get 5 to 6Mbps. I did almost everything like, choose WCDMA only, restart the phone, lock into 2100 band only, but all not help. my speed more or less the same never exceed.
Hey guys. I Have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-I317M) and for some reason it fluctuates between HSPA+ and 3G signals rather than LTE. The device is originally locked to Rogers but I unlocked it and am now using it with MTS. I am running on jelly bean 4. 1.2 and CleanRom 4.0.5. Anybody have any ideas as to why I'm not getting LTE?
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Hey guys. I Have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-I317M) and for some reason it fluctuates between HSPA+ and 3G signals rather than LTE. The device is originally locked to Rogers but I unlocked it and am now using it with MTS. I am running on jelly bean 4. 1.2 and CleanRom 4.0.5. Anybody have any ideas as to why I'm not getting LTE?
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Are you still getting fast data speeds? All LTE is 3.9 g and hspa is like 3.6 g lol..
http://tasel.wordpress.com/2012/03/13/lte-hsdpa-dc-hsdpa-explain-this-alphbet-soup-of-4g-to-me/
Since you only mentioned your phone model and not the important notion what your carrier is, what is it?
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thlinx said:
Are you still getting fast data speeds? All LTE is 3.9 g and hspa is like 3.6 g lol..
Since you only mentioned your phone model and not the important notion what your carrier is, what is it?
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Yes I'm getting fast speeds but I can't help but wonder why this is happening. I mentioned that I'm with MTS so I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for. I live in Canada so it's probably not familiar to you. They just started carrying S3's which are running on their LTE network and they show 4G at the top of them when activated rather than HSPA+.
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Yes I'm getting fast speeds but I can't help but wonder why this is happening. I mentioned that I'm with MTS so I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for. I live in Canada so it's probably not familiar to you. They just started carrying S3's which are running on their LTE network and they show 4G at the top of them when activated rather than HSPA+.
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Nope not familiar with Mts. That's correct.. it all depends on the towers u are near .. if they haven't upgraded there towers sorry your sol lol
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It is either the towers or your phone isn't compatible with the bands of LTE (there are multiple bands like there is with UTMS).
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It is either the towers or your phone isn't compatible with the bands of LTE (there are multiple bands like there is with UTMS).
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I'm pretty sure it isn't the towers cause my friends iPhone 5 is running off LTE and he live about 5 minutes away from my house. I've also been at distances one minute away from his house and did not pick up LTE then either. I don't know much about bands or frequencies but my carrier just launched the Galaxy S3's and they run off LTE and I'm assuming the Note 2 has the same hardware. S3: 700 (Band 17), 1700/2100 (AWS) MHz , Note 2: 700(band 17) 850 AWS 1,900(band 2). I'm clueless as to what those numbers mean but i'm guessing the important thing is Band 17, right?
Try going near his house then. Or have you checked the network settings? You may have to flash something.
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Try going near his house then. Or have you checked the network settings? You may have to flash something.
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I have to no avail. I had a friend try to help me out over the phone with network settings and his phone appears to have a setting that mine does not. When he goes into settings > wireless and network more settings > mobile network there is an option for him to toggle between LTE, HSPA+ etc. My phone doesn't have that for some reason. All that's listed is Mobile data, data roaming, Access point names, and network operators. Nothing to toggle between networks, which is probably what I need to enable LTE. I have no idea why that setting would be absent from my device. My friend was using an S3 on the same operating system as me btw.
From what i can tell it's the frequencies . The frequencies your device have seem to be different than the frequencies the s3 have on your carrier. If it's not that then you can check your apn settings.
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Well i didn't realize how old the thread was, but i hope yes fixed your problem.
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What model is your phone, and what model is his phone. You said you brought your phone from a competing carrier who is likely using alternate frequencies that your phone might not be picking up either due to hardware or software limitations. Without knowing the hardware, and where it came from in the first place, we can't figure out what frequencies your phone is looking for and can't answer your question effectively.
download an app that will show you what is the type of connection you are actually on.
I think that maybe its the matter of incorrect icon.
I saw LTE yesterday in my notification bar, and that was the first time I saw it in 2 weeks. I always have 4G, but I believe that's HSPA+. Anyone have anything similar, and how they would fix it?
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QuickSkope said:
I saw LTE yesterday in my notification bar, and that was the first time I saw it in 2 weeks. I always have 4G, but I believe that's HSPA+. Anyone have anything similar, and how they would fix it?
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Maybe there are issues with LTE in your area? If you didn't change anything on the phone I would reboot it just to be sure but it's probably a coverage issue.
I'm gonna talk to Rogers today, cause I should have LTE around my area.
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HSPA+ is H+, not 4G. Test your connection speed if you're unsure, anything over 10mbps (especially for upload) is most likely LTE. I get around 24-36mbps up here in Canada.
Edit: Ah, that might be different for each carrier then. I definitely get H+ when I am on HSPA+.
8mb/s. On download, I don't believe those are LTE speeds, and if they are they're pass poor.
Also, never seen H+ on my GS4, so I think 4G is HSPA+.
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The "4G" indicator is HSPA+.
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On the AT&T version, when on LTE, there is a small print "LTE" under the 4G symbol. The term 4G has been abused so much, God knows what it means on any given device.
I`ve got the rogers one and it says LTE when theres LTE and 4G when there isn`t.
Check your apns and make sure its ltemobile.apn set up ?
kylecore said:
I`ve got the rogers one and it says LTE when theres LTE and 4G when there isn`t.
Check your apns and make sure its ltemobile.apn set up ?
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Where are you located? And ya, I have my Rogers LTE and my tethering APN as well.
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Where are you located? And ya, I have my Rogers LTE and my tethering APN as well.
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I'm in Chatham Ontario.
Between Windsor and London
I think it might be a radio issue with the stock ROM. It was the same on the S2 Skyrocket, some radios worked better than others. The Radio I had on my S2 when I switched over to the S4 showed LTE in my area constantly. Previous radios on that phone were hit and miss...some a lot better than others. I guess we will have to wait until the BootLoader is unlocked (for AT&T S4s) and other basebands (radios) are released until we can test and see which one works better in each area.
My S4 has a pretty good connection now, but it too shows 4G where it use to show LTE. Like I said, some radios do better than others when handling LTE connections.
So apparently the representative lied to me and said that I would have LTE, but my region doesn't support it. That's awesome : /. Thought it doesn't explain why I had it for a brief period. Maybe it came from a tower with LTE. Weird.
Well, This things going back unless a representative can give me a decent deal : /
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So apparently the representative lied to me and said that I would have LTE, but my region doesn't support it. That's awesome : /. Thought it doesn't explain why I had it for a brief period. Maybe it came from a tower with LTE. Weird.
Well, This things going back unless a representative can give me a decent deal : /
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Are you positive that your area doesn't have LTE? Just because the phone is capable of having LTE doesn't mean you are guaranteed an LTE signal. You have to be within the LTE broadcast area and, your phone's modem (radio) has to pick up that LTE signal. Like I said before, the phones radio has a lot to do with it. Some just handle LTE connection (and all connections) better than others. Radios are flashable, but the bootloader has to be unlocked, with custom recovery installed and different versions of the radio have to be available before Devs can make them flashable. Some will do better than others. It's just a matter of trying them when they are available.
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Are you positive that your area doesn't have LTE? Just because the phone is capable of having LTE doesn't mean you are guaranteed an LTE signal. You have to be within the LTE broadcast area and, your phone's modem (radio) has to pick up that LTE signal. Like I said before, the phones radio has a lot to do with it. Some just handle LTE connection (and all connections) better than others. Radios are flashable, but the bootloader has to be unlocked, with custom recovery installed and different versions of the radio have to be available before Devs can make them flashable. Some will do better than others. It's just a matter of trying them when they are available.
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I live in Nanaimo BC, Checking the Rogers Map, it states that LTE is "Coming Soon". Which is ambituitous to say the least.
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