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Anyone have a friend or family member with a Magic?
I'd be curious to see if there's any new features that could potentially be ported to our Hero.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/29/htc-magics-sense-update-ready-for-download
Looks like they have a pull port of Eclair as well. I bet we could steal their sense for our AOSP builds, problem with that IMHO: Most of the people running AOSP want Vanilla - The push to get it in and working would be minimal. Sense is sadly not as simple as installing an APK.
Kcarpenter said:
Looks like they have a pull port of Eclair as well. I bet we could steal their sense for our AOSP builds, problem with that IMHO: Most of the people running AOSP want Vanilla - The push to get it in and working would be minimal. Sense is sadly not as simple as installing an APK.
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Anyone know what version of Android this is? The magic has Donut, right?
Kcarpenter said:
Looks like they have a pull port of Eclair as well. I bet we could steal their sense for our AOSP builds, problem with that IMHO: Most of the people running AOSP want Vanilla - The push to get it in and working would be minimal. Sense is sadly not as simple as installing an APK.
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Why would you want to add Sense to an AOSP build? That's basically your stock ROM minus some of the crap apps crammed on there, which is already available.
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Anyone know what version of Android this is? The magic has Donut, right?
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HTC Source claims it's 1.5. Sorry, forum wont let me link it.
john.c said:
Why would you want to add Sense to an AOSP build?
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To have sense on a 1.6 version of Android, I like Sense...alot.
john.c said:
HTC Source claims it's 1.5. Sorry, forum wont let me link it.
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You may not have enough posts to link. -Your still a junior member, but I am not sure at what level it lets you link.
I was wondering the same thing when I saw this on Engadget this morning, what version of Android is the MyTouch running, I thought I remember hearing that it was on 1.6.
Nanan00 said:
I was wondering the same thing when I saw this on Engadget this morning, what version of Android is the MyTouch running, I thought I remember hearing that it was on 1.6.
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It is 1.6.
My co-worker has one and likes to remind of the fact that it came pre-installed on his MyTouch.
EDIT: Correction, he got it OTA. I'm running AOSP1.6 now anyway so... screw him!
so can we downloaded already? its for the hero? whats new?
magicalan said:
so can we downloaded already? its for the hero? whats new?
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It's for the magic not the hero. Not the hero.
just cheked haha i dint read
Is it possible to extract Sense UI and somehow create an APK file from it so it can be installed on any Android phone? I Like the HTC Desire, but i also really like the Motorola Droid & the Sony Ericcson X10, but they just dont have that overall edge without Sense. It would be really good if this could be done!
Thanks
Short answer, no. Long answer [idk. ask someone smart cuz I just dk.]
if i had a phone with sense i'd be able to tell you.
it depends on if its embedded or just a package..
if it's like a home replacement then yes.
theoretically its definitely possible but i have never even seen sense in person.
maybe someone with a desire or hero can chime in?
topdnbass said:
if i had a phone with sense i'd be able to tell you.
it depends on if its embedded or just a package..
if it's like a home replacement then yes.
theoretically its definitely possible but i have never even seen sense in person.
maybe someone with a desire or hero can chime in?
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Not without all of Htc's closed-source frameworks
The fact that it hasn't been done yet, and that all non-HTC devices able to run it are in fact running hacked HTC roms, should tell you something.
No worries, there is actually a team whose working on porting the Sense UI to the droid
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No worries, there is actually a team whose working on porting the Sense UI to the droid
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they have ported it, you just cant take the rosie.apk and put it on the market and download it and wola you have sense ui. the rosie.apk is completely depandent on HTC's framework.
I was thinking more along the lines of an update.zip to actually replace those framework files.
I didn't think it would be as simple as an .apk package installation.
I have hardly done any developing for android (yet) but wouldn't a logcat or dalvik readout give you enough info on which files are dependent on sense ui?
You throw those into a zip, sign it and put it on any device with the same version of android that hasn't been butchered by the manufactuer.
Update it and voila.
I doubt HTC went through the trouble to encrypt files specifically for each device..
Hey guys,
Head on over to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11413483&postcount=16
Looks like we have a possible dump of a Gingerbread with sense enabled! Motoman will verify the ROM and see if it can be ported. The ROM comes from the HTC Huashan/A9188/T9188, which is basically a re-release of the HD2 for the chinese community. Here's hoping it'll be easily ported!
honestly the desire DHD is more like HD2 and not the HTC Huashan. the hardware is totally different :/
greg17477 said:
honestly the desire DHD is more like HD2 and not the HTC Huashan. the hardware is totally different :/
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Right, agreed. But this is the first Gingerbread Sense build that's in the wild, so porting it might be possible... Hopefully it'll give us the benefits of Ginger with Sense (Which is what I want).
How cool! Motoman does done really great stuff, do I'm expecting more of the same!
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karendar said:
Right, agreed. But this is the first Gingerbread Sense build that's in the wild, so porting it might be possible... Hopefully it'll give us the benefits of Ginger with Sense (Which is what I want).
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ofcourse i hope its possible too, but i highly doubt it i guess, we have just to be patient..
I have just seen some wildfire s movies and the point is:
it's runneing gingerbread and it has a flip clock.
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire.
Can we (if the wildfire s is released) port gingerbread from the s version to ours.
Or will there be an update with the new sense and gingerbread.
Please could someone that know something about it say something to me, please.
And my second question is: Can someone already put the new sense in a rom.
I hope someone really know something about it.
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My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire.
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It is not nearly the same. It is totally different. And, to get the new Sense, the code has to be released by HTC. Till that, there wont be a GB Sense Enabled ROM for the Wildfire.
Also, I am pretty sure with the release of the S, HTC will not conveniently forget the original Wildfire and probably not release any updates for it. Its basically an EOL Product now. Its the way the industry works.
After some monthes on the market every mobile phone is EOL. You are right!
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If you really want gingerbread on wildfire, you can try Cyanogen 7. There is no htc sense with cyanogen though.
Just for the new sense
argeoff said:
If you really want gingerbread on wildfire, you can try Cyanogen 7. There is no htc sense with cyanogen though.
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I know but I want the new sense xD
Its more like the aria or gratia (what is the point of that - considering the wildfire s is better) or legend or salsa than the wildfire (they are all the same phone in a different box with a different rom)
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CM 7
I'm using cm 7 right now.
It is very nice, but I've send a mail to HTC.
Hope they will answer.
I really like gingerbread, but I just want the new sense ( without buying a newer phone ).
So if I got mail about it.
Will you see it on this topic
guus_1995 said:
I'm using cm 7 right now.
It is very nice, but I've send a mail to HTC.
Hope they will answer.
I really like gingerbread, but I just want the new sense ( without buying a newer phone ).
So if I got mail about it.
Will you see it on this topic
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sorry but, you'll not get much out of them! Just a generalised response.
guus_1995 said:
I have just seen some wildfire s movies and the point is:
it's runneing gingerbread and it has a flip clock.
My question is: If the htc wildfire s has nearly the same things as the normal wildfire. -No, not the same hardware
Can we (if the wildfire s is released) port gingerbread from the s version to ours. -HVGA vs QVGA.... lots of resizing and xml, program modifying. And devs are not really interested
Or will there be an update with the new sense and gingerbread. - Not really with a spray of impossible
Please could someone that know something about it say something to me, please.
And my second question is: Can someone already put the new sense in a rom.
-I have not seen Sense 3.0 on a QVGA device, so low porting chances.
I hope someone really know something about it.
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blabla bla 10 chars
soory for this crappy thread
Hello people,
I'm using cm 7 right now.
This is a question to alex, I think that you know more about it.
So is it possible to port htc sense to cm7.
And so yes:How can I do it on my own.
So please answer.
edit ment normal sense.
It is possible to get the Gingerbread update but no way it would get the new Sense.
guus_1995 said:
Hello people,
I'm using cm 7 right now.
This is a question to alex, I think that you know more about it.
So is it possible to port htc sense to cm7.
And so yes:How can I do it on my own.
So please answer.
edit ment normal sense.
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No it's not possible to port anything HTC to an AOSP ROM, there is a theme though which makes it look like HTC Sense!
why not
djdevine2 said:
No it's not possible to port anything HTC to an AOSP ROM, there is a theme though which makes it look like HTC Sense!
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Why not.
I mean can not one app ported to a aosp rom?
Simply because HTC apps require a framework that AOSP ROMS do not have as it is power consuming and is slow.
guus_1995 said:
Why not.
I mean can not one app ported to a aosp rom?
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ok
djdevine2 said:
Simply because HTC apps require a framework that AOSP ROMS do not have as it is power consuming and is slow.
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that really sucks.
Is there any way to port something like a custom framework in a aosp or is this absolutly wrong question.
srry for my bad englisch
guus_1995 said:
that really sucks.
Is there any way to port something like a custom framework in a aosp or is this absolutly wrong question.
srry for my bad englisch
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Sadly the HTC framework is not compatible with AOSP ROMS at the ROMS have to support it. Your english is fine, don't worry!
djdevine2 said:
Sadly the HTC framework is not compatible with AOSP ROMS at the ROMS have to support it. Your english is fine, don't worry!
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Ok .
thank you anyway
guus_1995 said:
Ok .
thank you anyway
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As djdevine2 stated above, porting Sense would be very hard or even impossible. Sense is like a bug that crawls really deep inside the Android OS. Eliminating is it hard, I imagine introducing it would be also very, very hard.
And not to mention the possible Legal issues that could appear
maybe there is hope
It has also been rumored that the HTC Wildfire will receive the recently released 2.3 Gingerbread update.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire
This is just a rumor, but there is still hope.
Doesn't look so. If you look at the citation on that particular line, and, read that thread in another forum, there is nothing there to state that HTC has said anything about 2.3 on Wildfire. It is simply a speculative thread, and, points to CM7 for 2.3 on Wildfire.
"You can have your doubts about when your phone maker will finally get around to delivering an Android 2.3 update (March if you're with HTC, June if Samsung, 2017 if you're unfortunate enough to own a Sony Ericsson), but the smartphone dev community doesn't work that slowly. The guys who build custom ROMs just for the sheer pride of it have already begun work on delivering Gingerbread to owners of HTC's EVO 4G, Droid Eris, and Wildfire."
Can we do something with this?
http://911sniper.blog.163.com/blog/static/1429008812011329111555836/
Nice find! I'm sure the devs will be able to whip something up with this
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mrbracht said:
Nice find! I'm sure the devs will be able to whip something up with this
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yeah and if not we have that sense 3.0 leak to look forward to lol
definatly just spent like 15 minutes trying to figure out how to download the RUU from that chinese upload site... no dice... any direct link to DL you can PM me im interested i wanna see if i can get this running
still, we arent going to have data.
until we get cm ril - and maybe not even then - "ports" to the tbolt are going to be totally worthless.
thats why i havent been too concerned with the sense 3.0 ports. they are cool to play with, but no chance of being a daily driver for a while.
r2DoesInc said:
still, we arent going to have data.
until we get cm ril - and maybe not even then - "ports" to the tbolt are going to be totally worthless.
thats why i havent been too concerned with the sense 3.0 ports. they are cool to play with, but no chance of being a daily driver for a while.
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this is my first cdma android device like i said ive been out since we were porting doughnut rosie to dream boards..... to google i go
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scratch porting your right.... mannn cdma android is no fun
maybe not a full port but like porting pieces but then and again in essence from what im seeing this is what were running except on 2.3 android
Zarboz said:
this is my first cdma android device like i said ive been out since we were porting doughnut rosie to dream boards..... to google i go
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scratch porting your right.... mannn cdma android is no fun
maybe not a full port but like porting pieces but then and again in essence from what im seeing this is what were running except on 2.3 android
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nothing is wrong with it being cdma.
the problem is it being lte.
r2DoesInc said:
nothing is wrong with it being cdma.
the problem is it being lte.
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Radio is over rated anyway it's only a matter of time before we get a 2.3 leak
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Nikolai2.1 said:
Radio is over rated anyway it's only a matter of time before we get a 2.3 leak
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i suspect we will get it here in the next few weeks. sense 3.0, i dont think we will ever get though since the tbolt shipped with sense 2.1. the libs from the gingersense leak will help solve these egl issues we have with the sensation and doubleshot ports, but until we start seeing ore lte capable phones, i dont think we will see any feasible ports for the tbolt.
this is just speculation, i dont have any inside info on it, but im willing to bet thats how it all plays out
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i suspect we will get it here in the next few weeks. sense 3.0, i dont think we will ever get though since the tbolt shipped with sense 2.1. the libs from the gingersense leak will help solve these egl issues we have with the sensation and doubleshot ports, but until we start seeing ore lte capable phones, i dont think we will see any feasible ports for the tbolt.
this is just speculation, i dont have any inside info on it, but im willing to bet thats how it all plays out
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nah it shipped with Sense. 2.0... i wish it was 2.1 maybe theyll upgrade us lol. its just a small version but some big changes... nothing like sense 3.0 of course.
Nikolai2.1 said:
nah it shipped with Sense. 2.0... i wish it was 2.1 maybe theyll upgrade us lol. its just a small version but some big changes... nothing like sense 3.0 of course.
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my bad
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i much enjoyed the HD sense interface i had when owning the HD2 ... and the only reason i got a t-bolt is to have an NATIVE NAND running android.... i wondered why this sense was missing some stuff i wanna port HTC hub and some of the 2.1 tweaks...... the thunderbolts interface although faster than cmylxgo's desire hd port on hd. it didnt have as many features.....
since we are on 2.2.1 we need a new sense.... haha or until we get that RIL lib set from a new cm build.... thats pretty depressing
once again forgive me if i seem n00bish in this statement but theoretically couldn't we port the rosie and corresponding framework to our 2.2.1 devices?
obviously not from this dump as it is 2.3
Zarboz said:
i much enjoyed the HD sense interface i had when owning the HD2 ... and the only reason i got a t-bolt is to have an NATIVE NAND running android.... i wondered why this sense was missing some stuff i wanna port HTC hub and some of the 2.1 tweaks...... the thunderbolts interface although faster than cmylxgo's desire hd port on hd. it didnt have as many features.....
since we are on 2.2.1 we need a new sense.... haha or until we get that RIL lib set from a new cm build.... thats pretty depressing
once again forgive me if i seem n00bish in this statement but theoretically couldn't we port the rosie and corresponding framework to our 2.2.1 devices?
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it could happen. skyraider is famous for backporting lots of sense 2.1 and 2.0 features to the incredible.
Im not really a sense guy, i <3 aosp, but maybe when things begin to settle down for me a bit i can see what i can do.
virus may also be someone to talk to, i know he does a whole lot of sense work.
r2DoesInc said:
it could happen. skyraider is famous for backporting lots of sense 2.1 and 2.0 features to the incredible.
Im not really a sense guy, i <3 aosp, but maybe when things begin to settle down for me a bit i can see what i can do.
virus may also be someone to talk to, i know he does a whole lot of sense work.
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just tried to do a quick n dirty hack n slash port... bootloop... man this new android versions is something im gunna need to read about
Nikolai2.1 said:
nah it shipped with Sense. 2.0... i wish it was 2.1 maybe theyll upgrade us lol. its just a small version but some big changes... nothing like sense 3.0 of course.
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Htc said they were not going to upgrade any of the current phones to 3.0 cause they can't "handle" it but to me just sounds like they are just too lazy to update it.
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Htc said they were not going to upgrade any of the current phones to 3.0 cause they can't "handle" it but to me just sounds like they are just too lazy to update it.
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Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. Its a marketing thing.
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Nikolai2.1 said:
Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. Its a marketing thing.
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right. why update when they already set the precedent of sticking with the same version till the phone goes EOL? more money for them,
"Oh you just got the brand new Thunderbolt with the CRAZY powerful new snapdragon and 4g? Cool. Running Sense 2.0 right? Nice. New phone coming out next week with the same specs but Sense 3.0. You gonna buy it?"
And since we will never be updated, of course people will go out and buy it. Its the same as the carriers and Google not updating Android versions on older phones, only HTC is even more dickish about it.
can anyone tell me how to download this friggin dump..... i dont understand chinese... ive tried everything on that darn site...
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right. why update when they already set the precedent of sticking with the same version till the phone goes EOL? more money for them,
"Oh you just got the brand new Thunderbolt with the CRAZY powerful new snapdragon and 4g? Cool. Running Sense 2.0 right? Nice. New phone coming out next week with the same specs but Sense 3.0. You gonna buy it?"
And since we will never be updated, of course people will go out and buy it. Its the same as the carriers and Google not updating Android versions on older phones, only HTC is even more dickish about it.
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Well that's why we have you
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I will look at porting this also. I wonder if I can hack something together like I did with miui.