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First of all, a big thanks to all of you that put so much effort into this. Great job.
The tab works as a phone with my AT&T sim in it. Thats great. However, when I take the sim out and replace it with the original sim that has no service on it, I cannot make a call with google voice. It initiates than ends the call. I thought that GV used the wifi connection to make calls over the net and not rely on the sim.
Any clues???
Thanks
Google Voice was never Voip
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It should not work. If it does, who on the world needs a voice plan?
Hi all, I'm planning on switching over to the streak, and have searched for this but the "answers" I found aren't conclusive or dont really apply. Here's my background. I am currently grandfathered with ATT on an unlimited PDA personal data plan, with no voice. (i have a business cell for voice and ATT's network is faster and is perfect in the areas I visit, as well as my home which is the reason I opted not to get a voice plan since id rarely use it) So SOMETIMES I use skype (i have a skype out accout and skype #) to make voice calls if I leave my business cell at home/batt dies or whatever. My question is,
1: does the skype app work to make phone calls, (without frezing the phone). I do not need video chat, I just want voice calls to work. Also if it does work, what rom does it work on well? I not afraid of rooting and moding the device, im coming over from the Captivate which basically needed custom roms to function the way it SHOULD.
Q2: how well would you say gps and wifi tether work on whichever rom you recommend? Turn by turn nav work fluidly, or does it randomly throw you in the woods/ half a mile away like my Captivate?
Thanks in advance!
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Hi all, I'm planning on switching over to the streak, and have searched for this but the "answers" I found aren't conclusive or dont really apply. Here's my background. I am currently grandfathered with ATT on an unlimited PDA personal data plan, with no voice. (i have a business cell for voice and ATT's network is faster and is perfect in the areas I visit, as well as my home which is the reason I opted not to get a voice plan since id rarely use it) So SOMETIMES I use skype (i have a skype out accout and skype #) to make voice calls if I leave my business cell at home/batt dies or whatever. My question is,
1: does the skype app work to make phone calls, (without frezing the phone). I do not need video chat, I just want voice calls to work. Also if it does work, what rom does it work on well? I not afraid of rooting and moding the device, im coming over from the Captivate which basically needed custom roms to function the way it SHOULD.
Q2: how well would you say gps and wifi tether work on whichever rom you recommend? Turn by turn nav work fluidly, or does it randomly throw you in the woods/ half a mile away like my Captivate?
Thanks in advance!
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you can not make calls with skype or video calls with the steak. Sorry.
I am been using Skype with my streak it work fine for normal call. Never tried video call.
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I have the unlocked Streak and Skype works fine on it, wifi or 3g.
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I've downloaded and installed Skype but haven't tried using it yet. With Rogers (Canada) official 2.2 ROM, Skype showed up in the Market, which it didn't when it was under 1.6
I have owned many android phones and i must say that the streak works great with skype. I've been talking for over an hour yesterday and i didn't have any issues (both 3g and wifi). 10+ for Streak
For gps navigation i use Copilot and works great also. My rom 2.2 - 318 EU
Doesn't work for me on 3G. Says not supported on 3G. Rather annoying.
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Doesn't work for me on 3G. Says not supported on 3G. Rather annoying.
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Do a bit of googling and you'll find a "cracked" version of Skype that'll work over 3G.
Edit: It's here http://www.droidforums.net/forum/xeudoxus/78843-apks-unlocked-apps.html
Am surprised you cannot use Skype over 3G. The version I got from Market works over 3G ... Perhaps your carrier blocks it?
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AnyMal said:
Do a bit of googling and you'll find a "cracked" version of Skype that'll work over 3G.
Edit: It's here http://www.droidforums.net/forum/xeudoxus/78843-apks-unlocked-apps.html
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I should have specified, I am in the US on AT&T and they block it from being able to make voice calls over 3g. I tried the cracked version because thats what I used on my old Captivate and it didnt work on the streak. Depending on which cracked version you download, one doesn't even run (i believe the one intended for non-rooted/for people with preinstalled skype already on their phones) and the other package with is intended for rooted users: when I make a call it says call ended right away, then i try to make another call and skype tells me i have to hang up my other call before I make a new one. Kind of disapointing :/
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Am surprised you cannot use Skype over 3G. The version I got from Market works over 3G ... Perhaps your carrier blocks it?
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in the us its limited to wifi only to appease to the carriers. or so they say, i think its because skype doesnt want to upgrade their systems to handle the traffic. att used to be able to block skype from using 3g on the iphone, and now the iphone is capable of calling and video chat on 3g while android users get no love. tbh, i dont care if i have to use wifi but i really do want video chat.
Try oovoo. It sounds lame but works beautifully both voice and video. Much much better than Skype on android, which never worked for me on any handset.
Skype on my streak works over 3G no issues... BT headset wont work though...
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Try oovoo. It sounds lame but works beautifully both voice and video. Much much better than Skype on android, which never worked for me on any handset.
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My issue with oovoo is only a few people around me use it...
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I just downloaded and installed Skype from the Market. I unlocked my Streak and am using a T-Mobile SIM (data only). When I tried to make a call to one of my Skype contacts I got the message 'In the U.S., you can only make Skype calls over Wi-Fi.'
P.S. My Streak is so far unrooted...I don't know if that makes a difference or not.
I fulfilled my quest to get a data only plan on the Atrix by buying an AT&T mifi and just putting the SIM card in my atrix. This required creating a new APN for isp.cingular, and for about 4 months this worked great with a pure voip setup.
A few days ago something happened. My Atrix seems to be stuck on EDGE. It will no longer connect to HSPA in the same locations that it used to be H+ 24 hours a day.
The basics have been covered: power cycling, airplane mode cycling. No use. The SIM itself seems okay since I tried putting it back in the mifi unit, and it got 3G like normal. That also rules out a tower problem.
Anyone have any ideas? I feel like an ass now since I bought the mifi on contract.
You can call At&t and switch it to a voice plan with an hspa data plan so you can use your atrix.
Kind of admitting defeat though.
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Perhaps try flashing a different radio on the atrix. It could be an Incompatibility issue ? Worth a shot I would say
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So, I tried flashing different radios. No luck. After that I thought maybe some fresh ROMs might do it some good. No luck on Alien, and then I installed CM7 and noticed something interesting. The "Use only 2g networks" setting is stuck on. I turn it off, go back, and soon as I look again it's on. Is there something special you have to do to save it, or could this be pointing to an underlying problem?
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So, I tried flashing different radios. No luck. After that I thought maybe some fresh ROMs might do it some good. No luck on Alien, and then I installed CM7 and noticed something interesting. The "Use only 2g networks" setting is stuck on. I turn it off, go back, and soon as I look again it's on. Is there something special you have to do to save it, or could this be pointing to an underlying problem?
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Nothing special is needed to save it. It could be throttling by AT&T do to your imei being that of an Atrix vs a mifi.
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try another at&t sim on your Atrix
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try another at&t sim on your Atrix
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I suspect att has caught you with imei check and you should try with other sim card.
but i suspect it may not work.
why not use it with MiFi only?
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I suspect att has caught you with imei check and you should try with other sim card.
but i suspect it may not work.
why not use it with MiFi only?
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The problem with the mifi is its terrible battery life. It only gets 4 hours in hotspot mode. If it could last as long as my phone, I wouldn't even mind carrying around two devices, but it doesn't.
Anyway, great news. After listening to everyone's suggestions I took the SIM out of my phone and noticed that I was then able to properly disable "Use only 2G networks". So, I ordered a new AT&T SIM online, called and had it activated, and now 3G and H are working properly again. And along the way I fell in love with CyanogenMod.
I expect I'll probably have to repeat this process every few months if they continue to slap down my SIM cards, but I consider it worth it for not having to pay for a voice/text plan. I am still on contract, but to anyone who is considering doing something like me, T-mobile recently started offering a $30 a month plan that gets you 5 GB of data, 100 minutes, and unlimited text, and it's for phones! The only hitch is that it's a month by month thing (no contract) and it's promotional, so who knows when they'll decide to cut it. But personally, I'm hoping it's a sign that carriers are finally moving in the right direction.
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The problem with the mifi is its terrible battery life. It only gets 4 hours in hotspot mode. If it could last as long as my phone, I wouldn't even mind carrying around two devices, but it doesn't.
Anyway, great news. After listening to everyone's suggestions I took the SIM out of my phone and noticed that I was then able to properly disable "Use only 2G networks". So, I ordered a new AT&T SIM online, called and had it activated, and now 3G and H are working properly again. And along the way I fell in love with CyanogenMod.
I expect I'll probably have to repeat this process every few months if they continue to slap down my SIM cards, but I consider it worth it for not having to pay for a voice/text plan. I am still on contract, but to anyone who is considering doing something like me, T-mobile recently started offering a $30 a month plan that gets you 5 GB of data, 100 minutes, and unlimited text, and it's for phones! The only hitch is that it's a month by month thing (no contract) and it's promotional, so who knows when they'll decide to cut it. But personally, I'm hoping it's a sign that carriers are finally moving in the right direction.
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what do you use for voip?
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what do you use for voip?
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I setup a google voice enabled PBX with pbxes.org, back when they let you make them for free. I know for a while they stopped doing that; not sure what the current policy is.
Basically the pbx pretends to be a google talk client, so when someone calls my google voice number it goes to the pbx. Then I have an extension on the pbx that I register on my phone with the native android SIP client, which on CM7 works like a dream. Seriously far smoother and more reliable than sipdroid or csipsimple.
Oh and this does work for outgoing too, but if you're using a solution that doesn't (like google voice -> sipgate/ipkall -> pbxes.org), you can get around it with an app called Google Voice Callback. And it's still all free.
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I setup a google voice enabled PBX with pbxes.org, back when they let you make them for free. I know for a while they stopped doing that; not sure what the current policy is.
Basically the pbx pretends to be a google talk client, so when someone calls my google voice number it goes to the pbx. Then I have an extension on the pbx that I register on my phone with the native android SIP client, which on CM7 works like a dream. Seriously far smoother and more reliable than sipdroid or csipsimple.
Oh and this does work for outgoing too, but if you're using a solution that doesn't (like google voice -> sipgate/ipkall -> pbxes.org), you can get around it with an app called Google Voice Callback. And it's still all free.
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What is the native android SIP client? May I know the app?
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What is the native android SIP client? May I know the app?
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In 2.3 they added SIP calling to the android OS. It's not an app. Of course, in stock android it only works on wifi. Cyanogen unlocks its true potential by letting you use it on cellular too.
In my experience, on stock ROM SIP is an epic fail, both native and via apps (tried acrobits, sipdroid, csipsimple, sipagent). There is something funny about moto's audio routing stack, its not a network or settings issue.
Same settings and SIP providers - yes I tried two lol - , same apps, same network i.e. home Wifi, 100% perfect with nexus one. So I'm sure its Atrix specific. This happened on both stock 2.2 and 2.3 AT&T.
Custom ROM fixes this, CM7 native SIP works perfectly.
Can't remember for other ROMs, but they seemed to get apps working if not native SIP.
YMMV
Live in the US and would just like to use as a tablet and not phone. Do you have to activate the phone portion or can you just use as a tablet Wifi device?
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Jim
If you have no intentions on using it as a phone, why dont you check out the samsung player 5.
I know its not the same but just a suggestion. Unless you got money to blow, then yes you can use just about any android device without activating the phone portion.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/16/samsung-galaxy-player-4-and-5-hit-the-us-this-spring/
My job supplies a blackberry for work and my primary phone. So my Note is a pocket tablet with cell connectivity for data on a tablet plan.
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My job supplies a blackberry for work and my primary phone. So my Note is a pocket tablet with cell connectivity for data on a tablet plan.
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I plan to be doing basically the same thing. But I plan on using a SIM card from a iPad to use data only. That way with google voice and groove ip I can basically still use it as a complete phone, with only paying data.
You do not have to activate a unlocked phone in order to use it as just a device.
There is no problem using the note as a tablet. I wanted a small tablet and was going to get the 7 inch galaxy tab but decided to pickup the note instead. No regrets. I have not yet tried to use my iPad Sim card with it. I am using the galaxy nexus as my phone right now and love ics but it will be more awesome on the galaxy note.
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I plan to be doing basically the same thing. But I plan on using a SIM card from a iPad to use data only. That way with google voice and groove ip I can basically still use it as a complete phone, with only paying data.
You do not have to activate a unlocked phone in order to use it as just a device.
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Would this even work? I am pretty sure Google Voice uses voice lines for calls. I know using GV for text would work, I plan on doing this instead of paying $20 a month. Currently GV does not support MMS, but they have said they are working on it. I can wait a few months for that if needed.
I looked into Groove IP and found this... I would hate to LOSE my gmail account.
This is a possible TOS violation! Don't use this app less you risk getting your account suspended!
The same thing happened with GVXMPP (a 3rd party service Lifehacker also reviewed) -- as soon as it got popular Google got pissed and started locking people out of their accounts (not just Voice, but ALL Google services associated with their login). It happened to me personally and sucked.
Section 5.3 of Google's TOS:
"You agree not to access (or attempt to access) any of the Services by any means other than through the interface that is provided by Google, unless you have been specifically allowed to do so in a separate agreement with Google"
I doubt the developer has gotten approval from Google... You have been warned!!
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Would this even work? I am pretty sure Google Voice uses voice lines for calls. I know using GV for text would work, I plan on doing this instead of paying $20 a month. Currently GV does not support MMS, but they have said they are working on it. I can wait a few months for that if needed.
I looked into Groove IP and found this... I would hate to LOSE my gmail account.
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Skype and What'sapp FTW.
Using the Note with no sim card in it resulted in huge battery drain for me (and an annoying icon in the task bar).
But putting it in airplane mode and THEN enabling wifi solved the battery drain. However that needs to be done after each reboot. Also you can't use Bluetooth when it's in airplane mode.
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Live in the US and would just like to use as a tablet and not phone. Do you have to activate the phone portion or can you just use as a tablet Wifi device?
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You can enable flight mode on the Note which disables the 3G and wifi radios. Wifi can then be enabled seperately. Your cellular radio can remain off.
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Pops_G said:
Would this even work? I am pretty sure Google Voice uses voice lines for calls. I know using GV for text would work, I plan on doing this instead of paying $20 a month. Currently GV does not support MMS, but they have said they are working on it. I can wait a few months for that if needed.
I looked into Groove IP and found this... I would hate to LOSE my gmail account.
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Interesting, I have been using talkatone on my iPhone for over a year now...no issues yet. It does the same thing.
Is there a way to wifi text from a rooted Verizon phone and keep your normal phone number?
there was another member asking this question in another thread that was long and i cant remember where it was located but the short answer is no. there are options like Google Voice and other messaging apps that will easily work with Wifi only reception but not the phone app. i know Tmob offers this function but Verizon does not yet.
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there was another member asking this question in another thread that was long and i cant remember where it was located but the short answer is no. there are options like Google Voice and other messaging apps that will easily work with Wifi only reception but not the phone app. i know Tmob offers this function but Verizon does not yet.
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Thats kind of what i thought. The reception on the note 3 is no where near as good as my droid razr. My business is in a fairly weak cell area and i normally can't get a text to send from my normal indoor spot with my note. People can be sitting right next me with their other brand phones and send and receive text any time they want.
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Thats kind of what i thought. The reception on the note 3 is no where near as good as my droid razr. My business is in a fairly weak cell area and i normally can't get a text to send from my normal indoor spot with my note. People can be sitting right next me with their other brand phones and send and receive text any time they want.
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i have had the complete line of DROID phones from Motorola since the first DROID for Verizon and stopping with the Ultra and agree they have and have always had the best radio's for reception but i have not found any issues with my N3 that didnt match my Moto phones.
I also find GV texting to be great and allows me to receive and respond from my phone, tablet, and laptop which leaves more options than phone reception.
good luck
I wish!!!!! I really wish! I had a problem with my Verizon account one time where I lost all 3G access - and it wasn't my phone's fault. But funny enough, I could receive SMS but I couldn't receive MMS - regardless of connection to WiFi or not. After a week of talking to Verizon tiered support, I finally got to the highest support (some guy in the USA) who I was able to talk to. MMS goes through 3g and there's no changing how that works no matter what you do. I had always thought MMS went through WiFi.
Anyway, turns out someone had accidentally turned off 3g access on my account (iPhone 4s at the time). Soon as this guy figured it out, he flipped a switch and I started getting 3g again, lol.
Either way, I'm a big fan of iMessage, WhatsApp (was a big fan), Hangouts, and Telegram means of communication. They're 5x faster, usually more reliable, and cost $0 to use - and yes, they work on WiFi. Hard to get everyone I know to use one means though... so I end up doing a fair bit of texting even today.
I think the Verizon messaging app actually works on Wifi. I can be in a dead zone and still receive sms and mms with wifi connected.
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I think the Verizon messaging app actually works on Wifi. I can be in a dead zone and still receive sms and mms with wifi connected.
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The Verizon messaging app sends SMS/MMS? I thought it was a Google Hangout type thing. Cool
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Is there a way to wifi text from a rooted Verizon phone and keep your normal phone number?
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I use the GV Phone app when traveling outside of the US. You need a Google Voice number if you want to call real phones and not just app-to-app (like Groove IP or many other chat-based apps). Talkatone is another app which integrates with Google Voice, but I haven't had any luck with it.
Voice calling with GV Phone works pretty well if you keep one thing in mind...WiFi quality matters. Low WiFi signal or a congested network will increase latency and jitter to the point that calls will drop/fragment/stutter. Conversely, with a good quality WiFi signal you can talk for free from anywhere!
I cant post a link...check Google Play for GV Phone.
I use the Google voice app for texting and calls. I gave my Google voice number to everyone and as far as they know, it is my only number now.
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I use the Google voice app for texting and calls. I gave my Google voice number to everyone and as far as they know, it is my only number now.
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I did this too, and still do for the most part --- just really sucks that I can't get MMS with Google Voice. If I could get MMS with Google Voice - I'd be giving this number out to everyone - including Family. But I'm seeing rumors of Google Voice saying something about finally offering MMS at the start of next year.
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I did this too, and still do for the most part --- just really sucks that I can't get MMS with Google Voice. If I could get MMS with Google Voice - I'd be giving this number out to everyone - including Family. But I'm seeing rumors of Google Voice saying something about finally offering MMS at the start of next year.
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I'm curious to see if they ever fully integrate voice and hangouts. I wonder if the voice app will keep voicemail/phone calls and hangouts takes over SMS/mms or if they are going to cram it all into one app.
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