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Super Amoled Plus screen burn-in

Its been about a month since the launch of the SGS2. I know it may be a bit early but has anyone noticed any image retention or screen burn? I haven't as of yet and I but i do keep my brightness usually on the lowest all the time im at home. Outside its on Auto.
Also even if anyone hasn't how long will it take to happen since I know that all OLed displays including TV's eventually retain images?

I have a Galaxy S. For my phone, It took around 4 months to burn down some pixels after keeping the Screen on for about 3 hours a day. The Status bar was visible on blue background along with screen burn where AM and PM is displayed.
Best Practice is to keep changing the Orientation of the phone frequently and use a Theme with transparent status bar and switch to 24 hour clock to prevent burn in of AM or PM pixels, since they are ON all the time.

Yeah, im trying to do that as much as i can especially changing the orientation with the market and some apps.
So once your pixels gets burned in, can you change them back to normal by putting a different colour over the burned area or is it for good?

I think UK as all the Europe uses 24h clock. So no need to worry about am pm burn in.

dhiru1602 said:
I have a Galaxy S. For my phone, It took around 4 months to burn down some pixels after keeping the Screen on for about 3 hours a day. The Status bar was visible on blue background along with screen burn where AM and PM is displayed.
Best Practice is to keep changing the Orientation of the phone frequently and use a Theme with transparent status bar and switch to 24 hour clock to prevent burn in of AM or PM pixels, since they are ON all the time.
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"4 MONTHS" any sign of any burn in on my screen and i`ll be looking for a replacement under the warrenty. If this is the case then i`m afraid the Amoled technology is a complete failure in my opinion...!!!

Basically LED displays comprise of 3 LEDs. Red, Blue and Green. When they lit up all together, the form white. Unlike the LCD technology, LED's are diodes which convert electricity into Light and hence they have a lifespan. They gradually start degrading which reduces the amount of light that they emit.
Blue has the highest tendency to degrade faster, hence the AMOLED screens have a Bluish tint to compensate for the same.
Suppose you use a 12 Hour clock and you have AM and PM displayed all the time, as a result of this, the blue pixels that are present at the AM, PM display location degrade, which causes a color imbalance. I.e the other pixels emit more light, but the "Burnt" pixels emit less light. At a later stage when the other 2 LEDs start getting burnt, you can see a patched up section, which represents the burnt pixels, which could be spotted on specific backgrounds.
There is no way to fix screen burn than to get a new display. There is a HUGE topic about screen burn in SGS section. It's worth a read.

I got my galaxy s in August last year and there is a large amount of burn in especially where the clock is.
You can check the individual colours in SGS tools or the xda app when you first open it.
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dhiru1602 said:
I have a Galaxy S. For my phone, It took around 4 months to burn down some pixels after keeping the Screen on for about 3 hours a day. The Status bar was visible on blue background along with screen burn where AM and PM is displayed.
Best Practice is to keep changing the Orientation of the phone frequently and use a Theme with transparent status bar and switch to 24 hour clock to prevent burn in of AM or PM pixels, since they are ON all the time.
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I haven't had any burn-ins whatsoever with my SGS. I had it since October and used it everyday. None. Just checked after reading this thread. None whatsoever.
Koreans are very critical of things they buy. They are one of if not THE country where consumer reports are spread fastest due to their connectivity with the web. Things like this is just NOT accepted over there. And there would be a country outrage especially regarding Samsung products. I highly doubt this is the case. Maybe you have a one off defect.

The Burn-in is caused by the short life of the blue pixel.
I suggest don't make blue pixel lit in the status bar.
I don't know if there has any launchers could make Time and Signal status area displayed in yellow or green rather than white.

My nexus one had status bar burn in within the first month. Still there, no way to reverse it.
But using launcher pro is best solution which hides the status bar completely.

Same here I have had an S1 since it was launched. I used it heavily every day, the screen was on a lot as i used it as an ebook reader. There is zero burn in (checked using screen test).
A friend has one as well, which he bought at the same time as me, he is very critical of every detail, and there is zero burn in on his either.
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I`m going to use my SG2 as I want, i`m not going to worry about screen burn in, if it happens which i doubt it,i`ll be demanding a replacement . No one should have to use any programs to hide status bars etc, just to try and prevent it. If it happens then in my opinion its a defect and should be replaced.
Did anybody try for a replacement with the First SG that suffered screen burn...

That's what two year warranties are for I guess. Like post above, I would love to hear of successful replacement for original sgs.
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richie_jones said:
I`m going to use my SG2 as I want, i`m not going to worry about screen burn in, if it happens which i doubt it,i`ll be demanding a replacement . No one should have to use any programs to hide status bars etc, just to try and prevent it. If it happens then in my opinion its a defect and should be replaced.
Did anybody try for a replacement with the First SG that suffered screen burn...
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Many people exchanged their nexus one, desire, galaxy s, for a new screen and the burn in just happened again after a month on the replacement. Not much can be done just live with it.

How serious of a burn are we talking about here? A slight shadow or a full on watermark type situation??
Just curious as mine is en route but if this is as bad as some are making out then it will be a deal breaker for me....
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richie_jones said:
I`m going to use my SG2 as I want, i`m not going to worry about screen burn in, if it happens which i doubt it,i`ll be demanding a replacement . No one should have to use any programs to hide status bars etc, just to try and prevent it. If it happens then in my opinion its a defect and should be replaced.
Did anybody try for a replacement with the First SG that suffered screen burn...
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+1
warranty ain't issued by Samsung for nothing. Loving this phone. Its blazing fast since day 1 and ain't getting slower. Over 150 apps now installed. Still as fast ==3
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Doesn't effect the user much. Barely visible on daily use.

I9000 since august, no burn in so far , used everyday..
I9100 since, well less than a month, ofc no burn in

conantroutman said:
How serious of a burn are we talking about here? A slight shadow or a full on watermark type situation??
Just curious as mine is en route but if this is as bad as some are making out then it will be a deal breaker for me....
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Its very very light, barely noticeable unless you look hard for it on white web pages. This is prob why not everyone sees it cause they are looking for something much worse.

I have a slight temporary image retention on my phone, it only lasts a few seconds after using the keypad or the circular lock screen etc , but its pretty noticeable on a dark background
Sure, it fades after a few seconds, but I'm quite concerned that it'll cause lasting damage over time.
I'll try get some snaps, later.. my phone is er, 3 days old

Hide status bar due to potential screen burn in issue

Hi
I am a little worried about burn in issue. So i would like to hide status bar to minimize it. I have heard some galaxy s2 users have this issue.
I tried several launchers and they only hide status bar on launcher screens. When I use application it does not hide it.
I am wondering if there is any way I can hide status bar all the time.
Thanks
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Burn in? Wow, it's been a few years since I have heard that term! I see no reason why the Galaxy Note, or the S2 for that matter should ever have a burn in issue...the technology just does not allow that to happen...
On another not, the Note and the S2 have different screens. The S2 uses a Super AMOLED Plus RGB, while the Note used a Super AMOLED Pentile.

All AMOLED have potential burn in issue. See wiki page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_LED
Unfortunately it is more likely to happen compared to LCD or IPS as AMOLED as it burns itself.
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Unless you're using your Note as a primary display for your desktop and leaving it on 20 hours a day, I don't think there's much of a chance of burning in...

Unless you're gonna contantly use your Note for 5+ years, don't worry about it.
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Spartan2x said:
Burn in? Wow, it's been a few years since I have heard that term! I see no reason why the Galaxy Note, or the S2 for that matter should ever have a burn in issue...the technology just does not allow that to happen...
On another not, the Note and the S2 have different screens. The S2 uses a Super AMOLED Plus RGB, while the Note used a Super AMOLED Pentile.
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This wins silliest post of the week.
AmoLED's are notorious for burning wearing out especially blues and greens. Look at any galaxy S gt-i9000 that have been used for more than 4-6 months and you can clearly see the wearing out of the led's where the notification bar is static.
Static images on an amoled screen eventually wear out the pixels fading them out. This is a known fact and I'm reminded of it every time I look at my galaxy s.

regarding the OP's question. LauncherPro among other 3rd party launchers only allow hiding of the notification bar on the home screen. There are several google help forum posts asking google to implement a setting that would allow you to hide the notification bar in apps. The official request was denied by google citing that the notification bar is an integral part of the android os and therefore should be constant throughout apps. Now there are apps that require full screen pixel width like angry birds and such but that is only if the developer codes the app to NOT show the notification bar.
Bottom line its up to developer to include a hide notification bar setting as google will not cook it into the OS as an option.
Hope this helps.
Here is the official google response from an android dev http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9063
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Thank you inurb. Now I understand why I cannot hide status bar.
Thank you again.
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ADW Launcher has a feature that hides the notification bar when you swipe UP on the screen. Apart from that, if we can change the fonts on a regular basis, we might avoid this issue.

Is the process of burn-in similar to that on Plasma TV screens?? Then the solutions (or things to avoid) would be the same as well for SuperAMOLEDs. There wouldn't be any apps available that could facilitate pixel shifting, would there??
I come from the land of LCD, so I'm terrified of any possibility of burn-in on the new shiny monster!
BTW, Go Launcher EX also has the option of hiding the notification bar (and the dock menus as well!)

I've had the PM from the clock on the status bar burned into my Samsung Captivate's screen....as well as the digits from the clock but they're less defined.

If you are like me, you use the device 50% portrait and 50% landscape.
Wouldn't that pretty much eliminate the burn in concern?

I had the Wave/S1/S2 all of them had this "Burn-in" or rather burn out issue. The Galaxy S2 had the shortest time of only 2 months of use while the Samsung Wave took about 9 months and the S1 about 4. Only the "M" sumbol and the battery indicator burned in though.

Hi All,
came across this thread when looking for a solution for SGS1.
it seems that Burn in is indeed a problem for AMOLED screens.
in my situation, I've found a burn cause by Waze (of course, any app that would leave the screen on would cause it).
sadly enough, my phone is only 6 months old and I use Waze ~30 min. a day - not much for a burn you think? wrong!
for now, i've set Waze to hide the point bar and the zoom control, but still many objects on the screen are static - including the notification bar.
does anyone has a good solution?

I'm wondering if "burn-in" has to partially do with the environment the phone is being used in (the other being reason being a bad batch). For example, tropical (ie. "hot") environments may cause screen issues sooner because the screen can't cope with the heat?
I had my S2 for about 7 months before getting the Note and the screen was on around 40-50 minutes a day. Didn't notice any burn-in during the entire time. I always kept the phone's screen out of direct sunlight, and it was winter/autumn during the time I was using my S2.

I saw an S2 got a burn in within 2 months for the lock screen. =)
It's not just burn-in, I believe it's a combination of the burn-in and the specific colors in the LEDs dimming (i.e., losing their initial brightness).
It's best to change wallpapers every so often to make sure that the LED colors are wearing out evenly. If not, over time, you'll get weird tints in parts of the screen due to a dimming of certain colors, etc.

This burn in issue is very troubling to me and may force me to reevaluate my intention of getting the Note. I just Googled AMOLED and the Wikipedia article seems to imply the organic material degrades over time and I'm thinking this is the cause of the so called burn in issue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOLED
The other thing it mentions is the dramatic difference in power the display uses depending on the colors being displayed with black letter on a white background eating more than 4X the power of white letters on a black background.
This bothers me not just because I was planning to get the Note but I was also looking at the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7. If a phone has problems with burn in problems in as little as half a year how long before a tab with an AMOLED/SAMOLED display has the burn in issue.
On the upside, knowing that switching the colors can greatly reduce battery drain is good to know...
Brian

Yup, this is why I still prefer standard LCD currently, or Super LCD. Sure, the blacks aren't blacks, but at least the tech is tried and true. =)
Raptor1956 said:
This burn in issue is very troubling to me and may force me to reevaluate my intention of getting the Note. I just Googled AMOLED and the Wikipedia article seems to imply the organic material degrades over time and I'm thinking this is the cause of the so called burn in issue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOLED
The other thing it mentions is the dramatic difference in power the display uses depending on the colors being displayed with black letter on a white background eating more than 4X the power of white letters on a black background.
This bothers me not just because I was planning to get the Note but I was also looking at the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7. If a phone has problems with burn in problems in as little as half a year how long before a tab with an AMOLED/SAMOLED display has the burn in issue.
On the upside, knowing that switching the colors can greatly reduce battery drain is good to know...
Brian
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Hardly a fix but I use Opera for web browsing so the status bar is hidden for me (and full screen browsing is lovely )

inurb said:
This wins silliest post of the week.
AmoLED's are notorious for burning wearing out especially blues and greens. Look at any galaxy S gt-i9000 that have been used for more than 4-6 months and you can clearly see the wearing out of the led's where the notification bar is static.
Static images on an amoled screen eventually wear out the pixels fading them out. This is a known fact and I'm reminded of it every time I look at my galaxy s.
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It's something you "Tech guys" seam to leave out when you do your iPhone vs Android discussions, I have never read up about it anywhere. You would think such a glaring problem with be talked about more. I'll have to look into it more now that I am waiting on the White Note from hantec.(coming from the iPhone 4 that I have had for 18 months now with no issues other then the inferiority complex in screen size)

AMOLED Screen Burn-in

Hi everyone!
As we all know, we're drawing close to the magical two-year anniversary since the Galaxy S was first released. Given all the time that has passed, our screen probably has seen pretty heavy usage, and as we know AMOLEDs degrade with use, it seems pretty inevitable that as time wears on, more and more people will be encountering burn-in on their screens. I'm sure that as XDA users, lots of us use our phone much more than the average layperson, and given an even more select group of us are diehard power users, a few of us would have noticed it much, much earlier.
Other forums have their own *****ing threads about burn-in, so I decided to create this thread for people to discuss their own experiences on the Galaxy S. Have any of you encountered your screen burning in yet? What's the silliest burn-in that you know of? Were you even aware that your AMOLED screen could burn in? I'm pretty sure some poor chap thought he could use his Galaxy S as a bedside clock, and wound up with a clockface permanently branded into his screen.
I'll start the ball rolling: I use a pure black status bar on my phone, as is typical of most custom ROMs here, so I have a clear bluish strip along the top of my screen. Blue AMOLEDs have a shorter half-life than red or green, so as the AMOLEDs on the rest of the screen slowly fade with use and become gradually and imperceptibly less bluish, the ones at the top of my screen are preserved, hence the strange appearance. This should be a farely common pattern of burn-in, so I would be surprised if many people don't have it as well.

Yep ditto on blue ghostly status bar burn-in here
It's not really visible over 10% brightness so it hasn't really bothered me though

My SGS has the SMS layout burnt onto my screen as well. It's not very obvious, but you can see "shadows" of it if you view the phone's screen from a certain angle with a white background.

I always use my phone in lowest brights possible, hence there is not much burn in for my screen. Only a little bit burn in where status bar's clock is. Other than that, nothing noticeable. :-D
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Screen Burn In

I've got S4 ~ only weeks old for now, barely used it and got the numbers burned in on the screen barely visible in blue background so the screen burn in started in that area clearly (they have been present for more than a week) i changed to swiftkey in order to avoid the whole situation and i always hide actually my keyboard when not in use and such. however the weird part i feel the numbers are becoming more visible now in the blue background than they were before i change the keyboard? does the detoration keep happening in the same area even tho i changed the keyboard itself ? is there a way i can prevent it from happening. and the status bar if possible i want to hide it but keep being able to drag the notification center?
thank you

anyone got any idea

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anyone got any idea
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There is an app that claims to repair burn-ins by scroling black and white bars. I have the app (pro) myself but haven`t used it yet to repair burn-ins. Link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.displaytester.

gee2012 said:
There is an app that claims to repair burn-ins by scroling black and white bars. I have the app (pro) myself but haven`t used it yet to repair burn-ins. Link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.displaytester.
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That is a myth. Once the screen is burnt in there is nothing you can do. Claim the warranty.
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now the burn ins got even more as in more places and such, thing is i'm abroad now and samsung as other companies warranty is not international sadly. i have this display tester pro app and tried it for some minutes didnt see any difference maybe i've used it wrong. weird doesnt that mean all s4 will get at some point burn in. weirdly thought amoled tech have been advanced at least to the extent that it doesnt burn in that fast :/
i heard there is a way to make inverse of burn in and leave it on so that burn in goes complete screen loses tiny amount of contrast but become equal fully once again something of that sort... is it possible any suggestion :/ never going for amoled again (coming from iphone)

I had this problem on my old HTC One S (similar PenTile display), so I've learned my lesson now and run a screen burn tool every night to prevent the problem from happening. It must be done on full brightness.
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Yeah, burn-in is one of the reasons i went with an lcd phone, i was paranoid about it happening with my S3, running white screen deadpixel finder at full brightness every couple of days, move your icons around, keep your brightness as low as possible, there is an app called "burn in Savior" for the notification bar i also used "go launcher" to hide the notification bar, also change your clock on the n-bar to 24hr so the am/pm don't burn in.
You guys should see the HTC One M7 screen it`s glorious, no burn-in worries.
John.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
Yeah, burn-in is one of the reasons i went with an lcd phone, i was paranoid about it happening with my S3, running white screen deadpixel finder at full brightness every couple of days, move your icons around, keep your brightness as low as possible, there is an app called "burn in Savior" for the notification bar i also used "go launcher" to hide the notification bar, also change your clock on the n-bar to 24hr so the am/pm don't burn in.
You guys should see the HTC One M7 screen it`s glorious, no burn-in worries.
John.
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Had the HTC One, was a nice device but like all phones it has its disadvantages:
- trapped within the CID, unless you have S-Off and change CID manualy
- Unlocking the bootloader may cause warranty issues, even if relocked
- Slow updates
- No removable battery
- No external SDCard

I suppose you have to decide what is more important to you!, I would love an S4 as well. :good:
John.
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Had the HTC One, was a nice device but like all phones it has its disadvantages:
- trapped within the CID, unless you have S-Off and change CID manualy
- Unlocking the bootloader may cause warranty issues, even if relocked
- Slow updates
- No removable battery
- No external SDCard
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I'm starting to develop screen burn-in...anyone else?

So, I was hoping when I picked up the Note 3 last December that the general screen burn-in issues on Samsung AMOLED panels were a thing of the past. Apparently I was wrong...
Over the last few days, I've noticed that in games, or anything that takes up the entire screen, the area where the notification bar is located is burnt in, making it a few shades lighter than what is currently displayed on the screen. I can try to take a few photos, but I need to charge up my point and shoot.
Kind of disappointing, as I haven't had any of the problems other users have had with this phone, and it's been solid for me since December. But it's an eyesore to me now. I do have a warranty program with Best Buy, where I purchased the device, but I'm thinking they would give me a refurbished replacement, which I don't want.
Has anyone else experienced this? Should I opt for a replacement device if this is considered a defect?

go for replacement if you can.
The only disadvantage of Amoled display is that it has burn in issues with prolong useage.
so you can ask for replacement
it would be better.

No issues here, but I use an Xposed module that makes all apps full screen so the notification bar is hidden 99% of the time.

Go to the play store and get the app called Screen Burn-In Tool. Depending on how bad it is it will help. Maybe get Nova Launcher and set the status bar to transparent. I've had my Note 3 since release and have it set to transparent and I zero ghosting. The app needs to run for a few hours to work properly. Good luck.
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Never knew phones get burn ins. Lol
Stop playing so many games on your phone and you'll keep it forever.

K-Alzwayed said:
Never knew phones get burn ins. Lol
Stop playing so many games on your phone and you'll keep it forever.
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It's a pretty common problem with AMOLED displays. My Galaxy Nexus had pretty severe burn in where the navigation buttons and status bar were. The keyboard was also burned into the screen pretty good.