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So, any thoughts about gorilla glass? Today my 2week old dvp shattered. Yes, I dropped it. But, I've dropped phones before with no damage .
I ordered s new one while I fight to get a replacement. Low expectations on that. However I'm thinking my expectations on gorilla glass may have been too high.
Anyone with s more correct expectation level willing to reset mine?
alodar1 said:
So, any thoughts about gorilla glass? Today my 2week old dvp shattered. Yes, I dropped it. But, I've dropped phones before with no damage .
I ordered s new one while I fight to get a replacement. Low expectations on that. However I'm thinking my expectations on gorilla glass may have been too high.
Anyone with s more correct expectation level willing to reset mine?
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technically your gorilla glass didnt shatter you had a bad drop and the glass layer under the gorrila broke. trust me ive taken a hammer to the top layer and nothing. if you drop the phone with the screen facing down then your ok. but drop it on the sides or the back and you can get the layers under the gorilla to break
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technically your gorilla glass didnt shatter you had a bad drop and the glass layer under the gorrila broke. trust me ive taken a hammer to the top layer and nothing. if you drop the phone with the screen facing down then your ok. but drop it on the sides or the back and you can get the layers under the gorilla to break
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no, it shattered. Top, bottom, and every layer in between. I cut myself on the pieces falling off. I do have a pic I'll share later. I thought it landed face down...loohed like it. But the break pattern indicated more towards the edge. Funny thing though, I was also holding my hd2 at the same time..both dropped togethr. One on top of the other. Both broke, indicating the drop was similar to what you day.
The Dell shattered completely, inner and putter layers. Only a tiny part of the screen is alive. The hd2 has cracks, but is usable.
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no, it shattered. Top, bottom, and every layer in between. I cut myself on the pieces falling off. I do have a pic I'll share later. I thought it landed face down...loohed like it. But the break pattern indicated more towards the edge. Funny thing though, I was also holding my hd2 at the same time..both dropped togethr. One on top of the other. Both broke, indicating the drop was similar to what you day.
The Dell shattered completely, inner and putter layers. Only a tiny part of the screen is alive. The hd2 has cracks, but is usable.
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oh wow can you seperate the gorilla glass from the phone. i mean youll most likely get a replacement mines is coming today the shipped it overnight my battery exploded lol backcover melted its not nice
it would be nice if you provide some details pictures.
SHAUN231 said:
technically your gorilla glass didnt shatter you had a bad drop and the glass layer under the gorrila broke. trust me ive taken a hammer to the top layer and nothing. if you drop the phone with the screen facing down then your ok. but drop it on the sides or the back and you can get the layers under the gorilla to break
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I dropped the phone glass first on a pavement, it had a screen protector. Though the screen didn't break nor are there any scratches but it did get a pin point dent on the glass
I guess if they are not sure about the amount of RAM they put in this phone who is to say if this is a real gorilla glass.
Just curious, the hammer thing you did, was it on a DVP?
I read an article somewhere that said that gorilla glass is only strongest when it is at the center and it is not as good at the edges.
I've seen all Gorilla Glass demo's done hitting it in the middle. I've seen just about every single break happen because of edge damage.
This should be addressed IMO.
My DVP has scratches all over the screen...Scratch resistent my butt..
Good thing I'm getting my replacement today
i keep my DVP in my pocket all the time and the glass doesn't have a single scratch.
bbowman said:
i keep my DVP in my pocket all the time and the glass doesn't have a single scratch.
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Same here.
millerliteguy said:
My DVP has scratches all over the screen...Scratch resistent my butt..
Good thing I'm getting my replacement today
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personally i got one scratch from keeping it in my pocket and several scratches from this one time where i dropped it
and engadget had several scratches on the venue
so some people get lucky and some dont as far as gorrilla glass goes
I had the displeasure of owning the DVP and thought the glass was atrocious. The curved design made it hard to scroll smoothly. And godforbid you try and wipe away smudge prints and dirt - this was a task in itself. However, I dropped it face first from 1 and half feet and not one scratch.
I abuse my phones and the best to take my abuse was my Dash 3G. The DVP is comparable. Only 2 light scratches and i got my phone a week before christmas and did i mention i abuse my phones. They are kept in my pocket with keys and such. Even the chrome trim has held up nice. As for the curved glass i like it.. Very tactile, and easy to use. maybe its my big hands but I like it, even the keys are spaced well and robust. Again, i have huge hands and the on screen keyboard doesnt work for me, but the portrait works well.
I've dropped mine a few times, not a scratch. Just yesterday, my car holster decided to let go of the dashboard, causing the DVP (with a little extra weight attached) to faceplant into my shifter pretty hard. No problems there either.
got my phone a few days ago, dropped it my first time today and the glass shattered
what can I do? I am very disappointed in myself....
I cannot find any replacement parts, I cannot find any repair shops for it... should I sell it as is, or call dell? IDK what to do... it still works fine just has a very ugly screen
erebusting said:
got my phone a few days ago, dropped it my first time today and the glass shattered
what can I do? I am very disappointed in myself....
I cannot find any replacement parts, I cannot find any repair shops for it... should I sell it as is, or call dell? IDK what to do... it still works fine just has a very ugly screen
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if you go to the Dell community site, they will tell you there is nothing they will do. I have a new one, paid for out of my pocket.
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if you go to the Dell community site, they will tell you there is nothing they will do. I have a new one, paid for out of my pocket.
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dell charged me 249.99 to send me a replacement device...
a cracked screen is considered out of warranty (I think it also includes any physical damage as well...not sure about that part though)
Well no one ever said Gorilla Glass wasn't glass... It is tougher than normal glass against scratches, but it isn't scratch proof nor is it shatter proof.
Remember it is still glass and that means it will break under the right conditions.
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Well no one ever said Gorilla Glass wasn't glass... It is tougher than normal glass against scratches, but it isn't scratch proof nor is it shatter proof.
Remember it is still glass and that means it will break under the right conditions.
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yea, sucks because it seems as though they could come up with a better more shatter proof solution....
I heard that the Samsung Focus had corning gorilla glass and hearing this I decided a screen protector wouldn't be needed (gorilla glass is supposed to be scratch resistant isn't it?). I'm the type of person who takes extra steps to protect his gadgets. I always hold my phone with a firm grip, I have a dedicated pocket for it (no keys or coins with it) and I never drop it. Recently I've noticed some scratches appearing on the front screen of my Focus. Most of them aren't very noticeable, but one in particular can be seen plain as day and is infuriating. Like I said, I don't have anything in my pockets, I've never dropped it and I want to know how these scratches appear on "scratch resistant" glass if nothing but my fingers and cloth are touching it.
If the Focus doesn't have the gorilla glass/gorilla glass isn't scratch resistant I will delete this thread in shame of my lack of knowledge
the zune HD has gorilla glass and I have a zune and a focus. I am reasonably sure the focus isnt gorilla glass, taps like plastic and scratches relatively easy. my zune has very little scratches after 8 months of abuse sharing pockets w/ keys; only one day with my focus in my pocket with my wallet i have scratches.
It does really seem like plastic. Or maybe really thin, versatile glass.
I asked Samsung via twitter on November 9th and they confirmed it
"the Focus does have Gorilla Glass. Thanks for reaching out to us, we're happy to help. ^Sab"
Just found this and it says the Samsung Focus does have gorilla glass.
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/get-to-know-the-samsung-focus-with-windows-phone-7
Is it possible I got a bad unit? Or is it possible Samsung is just using the weakest gorilla glass?
EDIT: Dang, same time post
Samsung claims that the Focus has Gorilla Glass, so I guess you can just take their word for it. The Gorilla Glass might be underneath the plastic layer Samsung used. I think the Vibrant and European Galaxy S are the same way.
Here's a link to Samsung's official site Q&A about the Focus and if you scroll down you'll find that they confirmed it has Gorilla Glass. Click here. Also an official SamsungUSA rep on Twitter confirmed Gorilla Glass when he was asked. Click here.
Also, if you want to see a stress test of the Galaxy S' Gorilla Glass, check out this video (not in English but you get the gist of it). Click here.
I bought a silicone case for it and for now I don't have a screen protector but things are going fine for me. The phone probably isn't bulletproof and considering how thin the Gorilla Glass is on the Focus it will do an exceptional job stopping the usual accidents but it won't stop anything more serious. But since you're an 'extra protection' kind of guy you should just get the screen protector and give yourself some peace of mind lol.
OGCF said:
I bought a silicone case for it and for now I don't have a screen protector but things are going fine for me. The phone probably isn't bulletproof and considering how thin the Gorilla Glass is on the Focus it will do an exceptional job stopping the usual accidents but it won't stop anything more serious. But since you're an 'extra protection' kind of guy you should just get the screen protector and give yourself some peace of mind lol.
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Usually I get a case, but I haven't found anything to appealing yet (I like for my phone to look good). Also I try to keep it in the best condition so when I go to resell it I get maximum value
The screen feels identical withmy Captivate...
yes it is gorilla glass... ive put a few in already and can confirm.. plus i called samsung to be double sure...
huh, okey, guess i am wrong.
But my zune seems like its a lot harder. ive babied my focus and I still get scratches easyer
Raptor550 said:
huh, okey, guess i am wrong.
But my zune seems like its a lot harder. ive babied my focus and I still get scratches easyer
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Exactly. I want to know why that is.
glass scratches.. bottom line..
gorilla glass is just harder to scratch and is a tougher glass overall so it can be made thinner than other glass digitizers...
ErikWithNoC said:
Exactly. I want to know why that is.
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They probably have another layer over the Gorilla glass.
The Focus's screen really feels like plastic. It's just not as solid as, say, the iPhone 4 (which is said to use Gorilla glass for the front.) Gorilla glass is supposed to be scratch-proof and you scratched it in a day? Hmm...
I do not have a case or a screen protector on my Focus and don't have a single scratch on the screen and only a few micro scuffs on the plastic battery cover. I am generally careful with my gadgets, but I have carried this phone with me every day since Nov 8th and both of my young children play with it on a regular basis, and still nothing. Thankfully I have not dropped it screen side down on any hard surfaces (knock on wood)!
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Gorilla glass is supposed to be scratch-proof and you scratched it in a day? Hmm...
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It is not scratch proof.. It is much more scratch resistant... No glass is scratchproof
www.corninggorillaglass.com. Its a good read.
I can tell you from personal experience that a Focus screen will not survive a 3 foot fall on its face to concrete. And it is very very much made of glass.
But it seems relatively scratch resistant : )
Have you guys seen the youtube video of a guy testing out the glass screen of the focus? He's literally stabbing the phone with a screwdriver and smacking it with the handle and there was no scratches on the phone afterwards.
kawgirlval69 said:
It is not scratch proof.. It is much more scratch resistant... No glass is scratchproof
www.corninggorillaglass.com. Its a good read.
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It's supposed to be extremely hard to scratch, even with a razor blade. The iPhone is practically invincible when it comes to keys and the like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkXlriABfOo . It's a good watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8yNh0N2qbs . This video too is essential for discussions like this. Basically, to scratch the iPhone's glass, you need something that's harder than the glass they used. So diamonds might scratch it. Metal, not so much.
If this guy's Samsung Focus's screen went to hell after one pocket session, methinks the Gorilla glass they used was made in Chinese ghettos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eb17SwyDDU
Although this video makes me think that either this guy had a diamond in his pocket or he's extremely unlucky. Or lying...
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It's supposed to be extremely hard to scratch, even with a razor blade. The iPhone is practically invincible when it comes to keys and the like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkXlriABfOo . It's a good watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8yNh0N2qbs . This video too is essential for discussions like this. Basically, to scratch the iPhone's glass, you need something that's harder than the glass they used. So diamonds might scratch it. Metal, not so much.
If this guy's Samsung Focus's screen went to hell after one pocket session, methinks the Gorilla glass they used was made in Chinese ghettos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eb17SwyDDU
Although this video makes me think that either this guy had a diamond in his pocket or he's extremely unlucky. Or lying...
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I'm not lying, I have no reason to be. I've also had the phone for about a week (and a half) and I think I might have actually dropped it once on the rubber foot mat of a car, but that was only like a 2 foot drop and it was rubber. I'm still perplexed as to how this scratch got on my Focus. I have some other little "soft" scratches, but those you can't see unless the screen is turned off and its at the right angle. The one I'm referring to is small, but when I use my Focus outside you can notice it (even on the black theme). I tried taking a picture, but it wouldn't come out.
Would it be possible to exchange it for another Focus at AT&T if I'm still in my 30 day trail period?
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I'm not lying, I have no reason to be. I've also had the phone for about a week (and a half) and I think I might have actually dropped it once on the rubber foot mat of a car, but that was only like a 2 foot drop and it was rubber. I'm still perplexed as to how this scratch got on my Focus. I have some other little "soft" scratches, but those you can't see unless the screen is turned off and its at the right angle. The one I'm referring to is small, but when I use my Focus outside you can notice it (even on the black theme). I tried taking a picture, but it wouldn't come out.
Would it be possible to exchange it for another Focus at AT&T if I'm still in my 30 day trail period?
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You'd have to talk to them, but I doubt it. Usually physical wear and tear isn't really covered. But couldn't you return it and then buy another one?
I'm assuming you got the scratch when the phone landed screen-down on the floor mat of the car. There are usually tiny rocks and some are bound to be more solid than the glass, thus the tiny scratch. So 'unlucky' then, I suppose.
Had the phone a couple of weeks now and just noticed my first scratch on my screen..
I thought the gorilla glass would make this less of a problem but I've not done anything like drop it or drag it along anything.
Gorilla glas does not mean scratch proof, there are many things that can scratch it, for example sand particles.
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I've not done anything like drop it or drag it along anything.
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hm are you sure?
if so that's disturbing, but i see how so many people buy screen protectors
Nope, just in my pocket and on the table with the glass facing upwards. Its just a wee one and not the end of the world but still a little annoying. I don't want to put a screen protector on it if I can help it.
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I had 2 devices with gorilla screen, and they scratched after a few months of usage. Not taking anymore chances.
So what is the best screen protector? I like it just being the glass
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So what is the best screen protector? I like it just being the glass
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065384
here's a thread about screen protectors for the gs2
davey_b said:
Had the phone a couple of weeks now and just noticed my first scratch on my screen..
I thought the gorilla glass would make this less of a problem but I've not done anything like drop it or drag it along anything.
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never got a scratch on my n8 n omnia hd.
they weren't joking when they said its better to be safe than sorry, always use protection.
18 months with my HD2 with no protector and no scratches
I hope my soon-to-arrive SGS2 will fare as well.
yea i think i won't buy one either
GODZILLA GLASS TRUE FACTS:
It won't get scratches from your nails or from your normal keys or coins.
However, it will scratch with, and so please avoid, these objects:
1) Hardened steel (like expensive tools or expensive knives)
2) Precious STONE jewelry (if you are a woman, or loan your phone to a woman, or wear rings and earrings yourself, make sure precious stones like diamonds do not come in contact with the screen - they will scratch the screen with minimal or on effort; give your phone for 30 seconds to your girlfriend, she will put it to her ear, the ear has a diamond earring you gave her on Valentine's Day - she will give you the phone back with at least one scratch on it)
3) Glass cutting instruments and parts of those instruments (I hope I do not have to expain this one).
4) Most hard sands if applied properly
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Additional notes on OLEOPHOBIC COATING that SGS2 has
The oleophobic coating is also very sensitive. Avoid household solvents or strong cleaning liquids coming in contact with the screen. They will dissolve the oleophobic coating and only then you will understand how much your now defunct oleophobic coating was helping with finger prints, skin oil, and feminine skin care products (when the aforementioned girlfriend puts the phone to her freaking fake-looking powder- and foundation-covered cheek that produce a gooey oily mess when mixed with her normal face oils and sweat).
EDIT #2: I am not bad mouthing GG - it is a great product, and GG coupled with oleophobic coating provide for a GREAT EXCELLENT screen of SGS2.
It is way, way better than the cheap glass or plastic many cheap devices are sporting. Just please realize GG cannot and will not guarantee 100% protection from scratches or breaks.
gorilla is good enough to suffer from keys, knives, coins in test but it can be easilly scratched by sand.
But the scratches that you may see, is not the gorilla glass.
Screens on phones nowsaday are covered by a fingerprint proof ( although it's not effective) and the sand kill this proof easilly.
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However, it will scratch with, and so please avoid, these objects:
1) Hardened steel (like expensive tools or expensive knives)
2) Precious STONE jewelry (if you are a woman, or loan your phone to a woman, or wear rings and earrings yourself, make sure precious stones like diamonds do not come in contact with the screen - they will scratch the screen with minimal or on effort; give your phone for 30 seconds to your girlfriend, she will put it to her ear, the ear has a diamond earring you gave her on Valentine's Day - she will give you the phone back with at least one scratch on it)
3) Glass cutting instruments and parts of those instruments (I hope I do not have to expain this one).
4) Most hard sands if applied properly
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i didn't know that, thank you
Hmm,
problem scratchy glass with godzilla being apparent of course, sand happen now and someday happen me or you. Hope using protectian will cause ill feeling, not and smudgas
on screen not being withstoonding.
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dropped my sgs2 down an escalator today ... glass didn't break nor got any scratches. gorilla glas rocks ...
I was REALLLY careful with my s1 at first. And I still managed to get scratches. SAND WILL SCRATCH IT. And I don't mean like lots of sand. I mean a few grains of sand left in your pocket from last summer.
Though I have to say that the scratches were invisible when the screen was on.
I also had scratches on my phone already and carried the damn thing in a pouch in my pocket...went to o2 today and got it exchange hehe, new phone I slapped screen protectors on straight away!!
i had two very fine scratches that were not noticeable on GSI. I don't think i'm going to have my phone long enough to care about the scratches later on.
also the coating on the GSII is awesome. It allows me to leave my microfiber wipe at home
Locster126 said:
I also had scratches on my phone already and carried the damn thing in a pouch in my pocket...went to o2 today and got it exchange hehe, new phone I slapped screen protectors on straight away!!
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How where you able to exchange it? what kind of arguments did you use?
I have a scratch on mine, its almost 6 days old. i think iam gonna try displex for touch screens
I dropped my GS2 on a gravel road from about chest high, glass side down. I picked it up and the screen was completely dusty and horrible looking and I said UhOh. I got a microfiber cloth and wiped off the phone after blowing as much as possible of the screen. Got it all wiped off, and in direct sunlight at every angle, not a single scratch, blemish, pit, nothing lol. I have a slim gel on the phone, but the screen is naked. Whew!
Cool!
Peep peep.
It's called Gorilla Glass for a reason - gorillas are well known for their high resistance to being dropped by humans onto gravel.
I liked that someone experimented with Gorilla Glass
Swore I was going to read chest pains followed by back to back heart attacks until death.
Glad to hear it's ok.
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It's called Gorilla Glass for a reason - gorillas are well known for their high resistance to being dropped by humans onto gravel.
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WINNING ^^
Yeah I decided to forego the cases and the screen protectors after seeing some videos (not produced by screen protector sellers).
I was using Reallook but it got to slimy and even carrying the phone in my pocket with keys, only the plastic edges gets a little nicked. My Captivate's screen never had a scratch and I am the most un anal person when it comes to worrying about scratches on the body of the handset. Under everyday conditions the glass really is scratch resistant and I would say scratch proof in a pocket with keys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-dw04tNgpA&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5WRQuvaA4I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVxj6gRYwS0&feature=related
I was expecting more from this thread.
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I've seen reports of screens cracked, so i wouldn't jump for joy just cause someone got lucky and his screen is still intact after dropping the phone. Also reports of scratches on the screen. So i advice people not to start playing football with their SII after reading this thread
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I've seen reports of screens cracked, so i wouldn't jump for joy just cause someone got lucky and his screen is still intact after dropping the phone. Also reports of scratches on the screen. So i advice people not to start playing football with their SII after reading this thread
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+1. Dropping your phone to confirm its.durability is not big or clever.
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yes i got lucky, and could of also put a weak spot in the glass, and the next drop might not be so lucky.
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yes i got lucky, and could of also put a weak spot in the glass, and the next drop might not be so lucky.
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Gorilla glass is good stuff......The "screen protector" makers are so scared of it they are posting questionable videos on YouTube of how "easy" it is to scratch. "fear" is a great advertising tactic and sells a lot of things. In fact the glass is amazingly resistant to scratching.
I would be more worried about the interior circuitry shock on a drop than the glass.
As long as HTC is in business, the screen protector people will be too. You can look at an HTC screen wrong and scratch it.
You are very lucky. Its a different story if you drop it in the sea or fall in with it in your pocket
Put it this way I've got a very expensive piece of gorilla glass for a coaster. Ohh and a spare battery that I'm too scared to use :-(
I must admit I got a zagg invisishield screen protector and it is awful. Wonder why they bothered ohh try money.
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I dropped a galaxy S1 from about waist high onto concrete. it bounced about 5 times before come to rest face down.
The LCD screen under the glass was cracked into 20 different pieces. But the glass itself - not even a single scratch. You had to hold at it an angle to see the broken lcd pieces. So while the gorilla glass is strong, the screen inside itself is pretty flaky, so dont be droppin it!
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I dropped a galaxy S1 from about waist high onto concrete. it bounced about 5 times before come to rest face down.
The LCD screen under the glass was cracked into 20 different pieces. But the glass itself - not even a single scratch. You had to hold at it an angle to see the broken lcd pieces. So while the gorilla glass is strong, the screen inside itself is pretty flaky, so dont be droppin it!
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Yeah Thats what I am talking about....The glass is like Pyrex...maybe even stronger. The interior parts are the issue with drops. That's where those thick soft silicone cases help out but I don't care for cases as the ones that could really protect the phone make it too bulky and the thin cases are a waste and only prevent scratches and nicks around the edges. I don;t worry about those. Never used the same phone for more than a couple years if that long. The back cover can be folded in half and if ever needed replaced easily.
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As long as HTC is in business, the screen protector people will be too. You can look at an HTC screen wrong and scratch it.
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That's nonsense, they scratch just as easily as the sgs2, I will let you decide how easily that is since most htc devices also use gorilla glass
Looks like Gorilla Glass on Axon 7 is not tough enough, I broker my screen this weekend. Was in museum and phone fell from my hand onto a wooden floor of museum, and screen is shattered. Although it is functional and working, the screen glass is broken. I think I'm bit less impressed with the screen toughness of this thing. A phone fell from hand roughly 5 feet above ground, onto a floor and it shatters the glass. Am I covered by Axon 2 year warranty on this one or I need to get it fixed on my own ?
My wife's S7 edge fell a foot and the screen shattered in 2 places. The worst piece of **** I've seen.
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Always get a tempered glass protector!
rikin93 said:
Always get a tempered glass protector!
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lmao, thx to 2.5d glass there arent any fitting ones yet
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Looks like Gorilla Glass on Axon 7 is not tough enough, I broker my screen this weekend. Was in museum and phone fell from my hand onto a wooden floor of museum, and screen is shattered. Although it is functional and working, the screen glass is broken. I think I'm bit less impressed with the screen toughness of this thing. A phone fell from hand roughly 5 feet above ground, onto a floor and it shatters the glass. Am I covered by Axon 2 year warranty on this one or I need to get it fixed on my own ?
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A five foot fall onto a wooden floor would crack most screens unless the phone was in a rugged case.
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A five foot fall onto a wooden floor would crack most screens unless the phone was in a rugged case.
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Agreed. It's "GLASS", not iron. And hard glass is difficult to scratch but is brittle. Do people not understand hardness? Lol
The harder a substance is the more difficult it is to scratch but also the harder something is the more brittle it is.
Tungsten is a very hard metal... But people don't realize if you drop a pure tungsten ring it most likely will shatter. Same concept.
If you want glass that isn't super brittle it will scratch easier. If you want glass that won't scratch it will be brittle. Until we find some kind of super glass this is how it will be.
That's pretty much result as expected.....
You can RMA but they probably charge you a deductible as it would consider an accident.
Locklear308 said:
Agreed. It's "GLASS", not iron. And hard glass is difficult to scratch but is brittle. Do people not understand hardness? Lol
The harder a substance is the more difficult it is to scratch but also the harder something is the more brittle it is.
Tungsten is a very hard metal... But people don't realize if you drop a pure tungsten ring it most likely will shatter. Same concept.
If you want glass that isn't super brittle it will scratch easier. If you want glass that won't scratch it will be brittle. Until we find some kind of super glass this is how it will be.
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Pure tungsten is ductile. polycrystalline tungsten is brittle.
Interesting, I'm seeing tests on youtube for iPhone 6s and Galaxy Edge being drop tested without any major issue from as high as 10-12 feet. I will RMA it with ZTE but was surprised about it not surviving it this little fall.
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Interesting, I'm seeing tests on youtube for iPhone 6s and Galaxy Edge being drop tested without any major issue from as high as 10-12 feet. I will RMA it with ZTE but was surprised about it not surviving it this little fall.
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Much of it depends on the angle of impact. I know several people who have cracked their Galaxy Edges on fairly benign drops. Almost everybody I know with an iPhone (not that many) have at least one crack in the screen, but since it doesn't impair usage they often just keep on using the phone.
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Much of it depends on the angle of impact.
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Exactly. A drop is not a drop and the angle is much more important than the height.
imp3r10 said:
Pure tungsten is ductile. polycrystalline tungsten is brittle.
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Never heard about that nor learned about it in college, but that's also probably one of the reasons I stopped going because they don't really teach you anything nowadays. Anyway I digress, the harder a substance is the more brittle it will become.
I mean look at Diamonds, the hardest substance known to man and yet it can be shattered quite easily
interesting comparison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU8S_BjByKU
People don't understand Gorilla Glass. It's not about how strong it is, but how scratch resistant. And believe me, Gorilla Glass 4 is REALLY scratch resistant. Everyone could possible break when dropped on a wooden floor.
Do you come under the 6 month screen repair?
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keessonnema said:
People don't understand Gorilla Glass. It's not about how strong it is, but how scratch resistant. And believe me, Gorilla Glass 4 is REALLY scratch resistant. Everyone could possible break when dropped on a wooden floor.
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Which is why I'm glad the Axon 7 uses it instead of the easily scratched Gorilla Glass 5. I don't care in the least about shatter resistant, I don't drop my phones, ever. However I do want to be able to use my phone without an oil magnet (aka screen protector) so it's super important to me that it be scratch resistant as possible. That's why I'm hoping there will eventually be sapphire screens (though it seems unlikely). I was pleasantly surprised to hear that the A7's camera lens is covered by sapphire.
Seeing as how the Axon 7 design is very similar to the htc one m8, this gripe is justified, if you ask me. The lack of edge to edge glass creates a buffer between the corners of the phone and the edge of the glass. I dropped my htc one m8 flat on concrete, more than once, and not a scratch. I was hoping the Axon 7 would have the same type of durability.
gorilla glass is not shatterproof just like Moto Droid turbo 2/X force/Z force . these phones have such a great shatterproof glass. have a look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V2r_9Um2Tw
All of these iphone screens are cracked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFUlz_BTby8
ankithonda said:
gorilla glass is not shatterproof just like Moto Droid turbo 2/X force/Z force . these phones have such a great shatterproof glass. have a look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V2r_9Um2Tw
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That is not shatter proof "glass" it's plastic. I know because I just sold one.