Do any of you know of or think that the iPhone style Voice-mail service will be coming to Windows Mobile devices soon? (At no additional cost )
Unfortunately I found the first feature the iPhone has that I currently see no alternative solution for.
Still, I would never get an iPhone but would love to have the ability to browse Voice-mails like TXT messages. Delete without listening to. Seems like something that should be available to all and is long overdue!
nothing free as of yet but here's the one if you willing to pay.
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[url]http://www.viewyourvoicemail.com/?gclid=CLXJp5vLm48CFQh6gwodJUFoeQ[/url]
another pay service:
http://simulscribe.com/?gclid=CPeJndrMm48CFQqZggodMiuRfA
I didn't actually mean get Voicemails as TXT messages, I meant be able to browse through them rather than listen to one at a time and have to skip if you don't want to delete one and stuff like this iPhone ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcPv9PqnqfM
Just a list of voicemails and who left them with the ability to listen to any or delete them if I don't care what they have to say
Like described here in the commercial! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-2PeyLz30E
yea I know what you're talking about. I havent seen an app like that yet but i'd like to see something like that come out soon for us.
I assume that it uses the data connection and/or possibly txt messaging. Otherwise I don't see how they can be doing this. Even with a txt msg list of voicemails, it would take longer than it does in the "demo" video to start playing if it had to dial out and play it on a voice line where as if it downloaded then through a data connection they are on the device ready to play.
That also means that AT&T will most likely charge for the feature if they ever decide to do it for WM Devices.
The iPhone integrates with a custom server in AT&T's network infrastructure that links into AT&T's voicemail servers. The custom server pushes a new voicemail down to the iPhone via the iPhone's data connection, and stores each voicemail on the phone itself as a compressed audio file.
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server. That same app could then store each file as it is transferred to the phone in memory and present the voicemails in a graphical interface.
ljinsane said:
another pay service:
http://simulscribe.com/?gclid=CPeJndrMm48CFQqZggodMiuRfA
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While simulscribe is a pay service.... Simulsays is not. Yes there are two different things. I figured this one out on my own. So here ya go. Go to Simulsays.com and then setup an acct. Where it wants you to chose a package don't worry about it. The trick is to check no to having your voicemails transcribed. Once you set up your acct. you will download the program that works EXACTLY like Visual Voicemail on the iPhone. It is great. The way this one works is it instructs you to reroute your voicemail to the service and then the program that you then download pulls voicemails at a "set by you" time interval or just at will without auto polling. Hope you can figure it out. If you want to be sure you are not getting charged simply go to the link for support and get the phone number and say hey i want to make sure my acct is set up so that I won't get charged.
I am just not sure if every 'cool' service makes sense!
As the name says already: it is a VOICEMAIL! By seeing who left a message and being able to delete you will most likely often delete people who might have an important message! You won't know until you actually listen to it!
However, most likely you see on your phone who called anyway, so, you can asume that that was the person leaving a message. If you don't wanna listen to it then don't!
This reminds me somewhat of the new AUDI cell phone which has its own docking slot within the car and takes pictures of intruders. Those pictures then get forwarded to the AUDI CENTER. Audi really expects you to leave your phone in the car all the time ...
By seeing who left a message and being able to delete you will most likely often delete people who might have an important message! You won't know until you actually listen to it!
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But what about being able to prioritise your voicemails -you can see a list of who has left you a voicemail, and just jump immediately to the one you want?
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server.
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I am no programmer, so do not know if what follows is feasible or not, but, I can see no reason why you'd need to link to the iPhone's system at all- just use the WindowsMobile 6 system.
1.) When someone calls, this is logged
2.) When a voicemail is left, this is logged, but not against someone's number
3.) By combining the "missed call" log with the "voicemail" log, you should, in most cases, be able to identify who left the voicemail, I believe, or at least have a rough idea.
4.) The application needs to be able to list the voicemails left, and the link the call's number to their name: so you can see that Mr. X left you a voicemail at 10:00am.
5.) Provided that you always access voicemail via the application, and not directly, you could sort out the deleting too - most systems I've used have an IVR which lets you jump between messages, and delete them etc. So, for example, you tap on the third message in this application. The application dials your voicemail number, waits for a period, and then, using the IVR commands, moves to the relevant mail.
for example, something like, 121,,,,1,3,3,3 for the example above. (where "1" is the IVR code for "voicemail", and "121" is the shortcode)
If you deleted the voicemail yourself directly, then, that could cause a problem, as the application is not linked to the voicemail system, but, you could delete it via the application:
121,,,,,1,3,3,3,4 (where "4" is the IVR code for delete)
The application then removes the listing for that voicemail from the list. As such, the fourth voicemail becomes the third etc.
Neil_Brown said:
But what about being able to prioritise your voicemails -you can see a list of who has left you a voicemail, and just jump immediately to the one you want?
I am no programmer, so do not know if what follows is feasible or not, but, I can see no reason why you'd need to link to the iPhone's system at all- just use the WindowsMobile 6 system.
1.) When someone calls, this is logged
2.) When a voicemail is left, this is logged, but not against someone's number
3.) By combining the "missed call" log with the "voicemail" log, you should, in most cases, be able to identify who left the voicemail, I believe, or at least have a rough idea.
4.) The application needs to be able to list the voicemails left, and the link the call's number to their name: so you can see that Mr. X left you a voicemail at 10:00am.
5.) Provided that you always access voicemail via the application, and not directly, you could sort out the deleting too - most systems I've used have an IVR which lets you jump between messages, and delete them etc. So, for example, you tap on the third message in this application. The application dials your voicemail number, waits for a period, and then, using the IVR commands, moves to the relevant mail.
for example, something like, 121,,,,1,3,3,3 for the example above. (where "1" is the IVR code for "voicemail", and "121" is the shortcode)
If you deleted the voicemail yourself directly, then, that could cause a problem, as the application is not linked to the voicemail system, but, you could delete it via the application:
121,,,,,1,3,3,3,4 (where "4" is the IVR code for delete)
The application then removes the listing for that voicemail from the list. As such, the fourth voicemail becomes the third etc.
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And all that only because of people get too lazy to press and hold "1", set your phone on speaker and listen while doing something else?
However, your plan still would require to communicate with the VOICEMAIL system. You want to delete something by pressing "4" - if you do not communicate with the VOICEMAIL system you can't delete but only the notification in your phone! As a programmer you should know better!
It would require an always-on connection to your voicemail to monitor what is going on there and also to transmit changes you make through the "menu" in your phone! And so on and so on and so on ...
However, your plan still would require to communicate with the VOICEMAIL system. You want to delete something by pressing "4" - if you do not communicate with the VOICEMAIL system you can't delete but only the notification in your phone! As a programmer you should know better!
It would require an always-on connection to your voicemail to monitor what is going on there and also to transmit changes you make through the "menu" in your phone! And so on and so on and so on ...
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I'm sorry, but, can you please read through what I've written again? I can't see how you reach any of your conclusions, and, as you've written "[a]s a programmer you should know better", whilst I've clearly stated in the first line that I am not a programmer, I have doubts that you've understood it properly.
As long as the application can register a keypress in the Phone application, I cannot see why it would not work. It expressly does not require an always-on connection to voicemail, hence why the dial-strings I've included contain the voicemail dial number... The string dialled is the based on the options you select, combined with call-log details.
I agree that it is probably not worthwhile in terms of time-saving, but, hey, someone bothered starting this thread
Well, I missed the "no" in the beginning of your post - I appologize for that!
However,
a VOICEMAIL with functions mentioned in this thread would need a permanent or repeated connection to the voicemail itself.
A better thing would be to disable the NETWORK PROVIDERS voicemail service and have an application running on your phone just as SMARTPHONEWARE's BestAnswer for SYMBIAN PHONES. This has all the options and I used to love that app when I still had NOKIA. It records your voice messages directly on the phone's memory and not to a virtual MailBox in the network provider's computer.
Info here: http://www.smartphoneware.com/ansmachine-for-s60-product.php
Would be a challenge for WINDOWS MOBILE programmers to teleport it to WM devices ...
However,
a VOICEMAIL with functions mentioned in this thread would need a permanent or repeated connection to the voicemail itself.
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Indeed- it would need to call voicemail each time, in my model. However, if someone really wanted a visual voicemail application, then, in the short term, it might work.
A better thing would be to disable the NETWORK PROVIDERS voicemail service and have an application running on your phone just as SMARTPHONEWARE's BestAnswer for SYMBIAN PHONES. This has all the options and I used to love that app when I still had NOKIA. It records your voice messages directly on the phone's memory and not to a virtual MailBox in the network provider's computer.
Info here: http://www.smartphoneware.com/ansmac...60-product.php
Would be a challenge for WINDOWS MOBILE programmers to teleport it to WM devices .
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As I understand it, that would be a nightmare under WM?
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The iPhone integrates with a custom server in AT&T's network infrastructure that links into AT&T's voicemail servers. The custom server pushes a new voicemail down to the iPhone via the iPhone's data connection, and stores each voicemail on the phone itself as a compressed audio file.
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server. That same app could then store each file as it is transferred to the phone in memory and present the voicemails in a graphical interface.
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lol i dont know who told you that but it's blatantly false...
The iPhone system works like every other system except that when a new voicemail message is received (by the server) a text message is sent to the iPhone (not the actual voice message. a text message) that is encoded with the time of the delivery, the caller's #, and various other information like how long the message is and such. A link is also included in the text message that is added to the Voicemail List on the iPhone. When you select to listen to a message from the list you're actually clicking on a link (basically a specific # to input once you're connected to the voicemail server).
Your method would require that every single voicemail message that is received by AT&T would be converted and sent to the receiving user (even if they don't use an iPhone) and then if the user was *not* using an iPhone the file would be denied. That would require huge amounts of converting and data transmission for no reason whatsoever. AT&T's out for money like every other company they're not going to waste time and effort developing a system like that when their simplified system works just fine.
Also, it appears that visual voicemail alerts are sent via SMS, and there's a special handler in the SMS app that passes them to phone alerts in the Phone app.
The SMS alert comes from the number 1000000000, its composition is below. Note that I've replaced the relevant mobile number with 8005551212:
smpp-vip.allntxacds12.attwireless.net:5400?f=0&v=300&m=8005551212&p=&t=8005551212:A:AMS_NB_VIP6:ms01::5065
If you attempt to reply in SMS to this number, you get an error message:
Error Invalid Number. Please re-send using a valid 10 digit mobile number or valid short code.
the text message is the trigger for the voicemail
we know how it works now can we get it to work on wm6 and or 5
Short search with the help of Google bring me this solution - http://www.isecretary.net/
WM based voice mail.
Is this what you all wanted?
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lol i dont know who told you that but it's blatantly false...
The iPhone system works like every other system except that when a new voicemail message is received (by the server) a text message is sent to the iPhone (not the actual voice message. a text message) that is encoded with the time of the delivery, the caller's #, and various other information like how long the message is and such. A link is also included in the text message that is added to the Voicemail List on the iPhone. When you select to listen to a message from the list you're actually clicking on a link (basically a specific # to input once you're connected to the voicemail server).
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Wow...why would you say it's false? Do you have an iphone? I can listen to my voicemails when my iphone is in AIRPLANE mode (all raidos and calls disabled)...so either my iphone is lying about being in airplane mode and it's really calling AT&T servers...OR...it really does download the audio voicemail files to your phone.
GrandCentral is your answer ...
Go to GrandCentral.com and signup. You'll probably have to wait, as it is still in private Beta, but not more than a few weeks. Basically, you'll get a free phone number (choose one in your local area) and can route that number to a number of places and can access it in a number of different ways ... including the Internet.
It has voicemail that you can peruse, just like e-mail.
- Unlimited inbound minutes
- Unlimited voicemail
- Unlimited Credit for click-to-call
- All premium features, including call record
And the best part is that it is owned by Google, so it is FREE!!!! Woo hoo!!!!
I hope (but am very sure) that this is the right place to ask...
The situation: ich use the mobile contract of my company, which I may also use privately. However, in this case I have to dial *+150# as prefix before the number. For text messages the prefix is just 150.
Sure, one could save the targetnumber already with the prefix - but since it is two different ones, the mapping from the phone book doesnt work...
Replying to a text message, it is sent to the sender's number, instead of to the one with a prefix saved in the phone book. (The Hero is able to map the sender's number to the according phone book entry (incl. prefix))
I'd like to change my Hero in such a way that whenever I dial a phone number of a certain group (e.g. friends), the respective prefix would be prepended. Similar, for text messages the respective msg-prefix (150) shall be prepended.
Do I have to root the phone in order to realize these functions? And above all, how would I implement my ideas?
Cheers,
kermit
Now there is nothing hundred percent like that however you could save to numbers to the contact instead of one number for each contact
hi strider96, thanks for your comment. Well, I tried this already. But as I indicated, when replying to text messages, the system will not reply to the numbe saved in the phone book, but reply the exact sender number (which is without prefix, in standard international format usually). Moreover even if this would work, as I said, when having two different numbers in the phone book (due to the two different prefixes), android does not neccessarily map the correct phone book entry an incoming message.
Instead of editing the Android system at a basic level, I was thinking about an app similar to the one used for calling cards. There the standard phone book entry would be extended by a respective prefix. No idea how I could realize this.... Still, this wouldn't be such a nice solution, but at least it would be one...
Is it possible to physically reject specific SMS sender? I mean make so that sender and network think that message is unable to be delivered?
I do not have SMS plan and hate to pay for spam, but need to send and receive occasionally.
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Is it possible to physically reject specific SMS sender? I mean make so that sender and network think that message is unable to be delivered?
I do not have SMS plan and hate to pay for spam, but need to send and receive occasionally.
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I know through Verizon's website you can block all texts and/or premium texts. Premium being the ones you can request via 5 digit numbers, i.e. ones that generally cost you money.
Beyond that I don't know if there is a way to block a specific sender. I thought I read something about an app that helps you block calls/texts from users, but I don't remember where or what app.
I'm betting my far wiser friend Google may remember.
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Is it possible to physically reject specific SMS sender? I mean make so that sender and network think that message is unable to be delivered?
I do not have SMS plan and hate to pay for spam, but need to send and receive occasionally.
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Dunno about you, but I have never once in my life gotten an SMS spam message on my personal cell phones. The only "spam" I get is the free messages from Verizon, which doesn't count. If you're getting SMS messages from other sources, you must have signed up for something at some point that got your cell number on a list. I don't trust any type of text messaging service, and never enter my number on any site that asks me to enter my number and carrier (including those stupid fake IQ tests that require a cell number to text you your score).
If the messages are from a legitimate source, they should have an unsubscribe method listed that you can use. Beyond that, I know Verizon can cut off all text messaging, but I'm not sure if they have the ability to block certain senders or not. That would be a question to ask a customer service rep, I guess.
You can set the option to reject messages from a specific sender via My Verizon online. I think you can set something like 5-10 numbers to reject messages from. It will do what you're asking and prevent them from getting through.
Chomp SMS lets you blacklist certain contacts. I haven't tried it out myself, but I have seen the option.
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if it is like a fake IQ site just text the word stop to whatever the number is and if its a friend get handcent to block them
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VZ service is ridiculous in this department! 5 numbers up to 90 days? You gotta be kidding me.
Sometimes I feel it like some sort of conspiracy here.
SF is my first smartphone and I never had message spam on the old one. Just a few days after getting new phone I started to get messages from who knows what numbers. And these numbers are not regular customer numbers.
What a beautiful business model - first sell my number and then ask me pay to stop spam to my number! Cool!
I guess my question is if I have some sort of software spam filter am i still getting messages physically or soft simply may reject them at very low level at handshake moment or something like this. Pretty much pretend to have constant reception error or something like this.
I'm trying to group together phone numbers whose first 6 numbers are identical into one contact to have them go straight to the voicemail.
For example xxx-xxx-1000 xxx-xxx-1001 xxx-xxx-1002
Is there a wildcard I can use instead of putting them in one by one?
I tried xxx-xxx-1*** but it doesn't seem to work. Is there any way I can do this without resorting to an app?
Wildcard Contact for Grouping SMS Conversations
Zupp34 said:
I'm trying to group together phone numbers whose first 6 numbers are identical into one contact to have them go straight to the voicemail.
For example xxx-xxx-1000 xxx-xxx-1001 xxx-xxx-1002
Is there a wildcard I can use instead of putting them in one by one?
I tried xxx-xxx-1*** but it doesn't seem to work. Is there any way I can do this without resorting to an app?
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I'm interested in the same thing if anyone comes across a solution. My issue is more for contact management and SMS conversation grouping than it is for white/blacklisting. I get SMS notifications from a few different services which show up as a sequentially suffixed number for the sender. This results in dozens or hundreds of SMS conversations, making it difficult manage/delete SMS messages. For example, facebook notifications that get sent via SMS show up as 930010XX, where XX is incremented with each new message receieved. Rather than having a single SMS conversation with potentially hundreds of messages I have hundreds of SMS conversations, each with 1 message (or more than 1 if the SMS was delivered in multiple parts).
Any thoughts?
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I still think this would be a useful feature of contacts or people. I would love to put all of my work phone numbers (about 500) in there so I can block them when i am off for the day
Well at least for blocking specific numbers there's an option for using wildcards;
Go to Settings > Call > Call Rejection > Auto Reject List > Create and type in the part of the number that is always the same and then choose "Begins with..." below.
But I don't think there's a possibility for creating contacts with wildcards; even though it'd make sense so you can see who's call is going in and if you call that number you just would have to type the last numbers, depending on which one do you want to call.