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X10 vs desire vs galaxy s

Hello guys I wana knkw which is better . Cuz when I post on desire forum x10 vs desire they all were x10 sux and stuff and and I also post x10 vs.vibrant they said the vibrant is better im trying to collect some info cuz im buying eithrr desire or galaxy s on monday orr should I keep the x10 and wait for 2.1 cuz I dont like the 1.6 and its been almost forever still no 2.1 on x10 I wonder if 2.1 will be available how nice x10 will be I just cant imagine it . So plz help me guys n wht u think and also would 2.1 would it.bring camera flash?

First of all 2.1 isn't going bring camera flash.. that's hardware related, and second why did you buy x10, when you knew it had 1.6 on it?

Flash:
Download Vignette from the market.
X10 vs Galaxy:
My mate bight a galaxy S two weeks ago and is already sending it in for replacement.
1.6 vs 2.1:
If you can't wait a few more weeks, then I highly doubt you'll be keeping either of those phones because of the compulsive need to always upgrade. Kinda defeats the purpose, really.
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HTC fan, he bought the X10 probably because the Desire and the Galaxy S were announced for Canada only recently.
If you can get the Galaxy S for only slightly more than the X10, then I recommend it even though I'm an X10 owner and fan. The Hummingbird CPU, extra RAM, 8Gb onboard ROM, S-AMOLED screen, 2.1 (with 2.2 coming in September) make it superior to the X10. Sorry, but that's the truth.
As for the Desire, I would stay with the X10.
P.S. before I get flamed, I have no intention of moving to the Galaxy S.

^ 100% Agree.

Yea when 2.1 comes to the X10 all our problems will be over. I wont even have to work anymore probably. It will be such an amazing thing that if I were to accidentally drop my phone from 40 Ft. it will bounce right back into my pocket (unharmed). I am so tired of ppl *****ing about 1.6 vs 2.1/2.2. Get the FU** over it already. There are so many more things in the world to be concerned with. Just my opinion though.

@htc fan89 i bought my x10 3 months ago i didnt had knowledge of android or what 1.6 was. i can wait 3 weeks or whatever but is it official that its coming this month or its just people saying it .

I'm just tried of people crying for 2.1...that's all

applebook said:
HTC fan, he bought the X10 probably because the Desire and the Galaxy S were announced for Canada only recently.
If you can get the Galaxy S for only slightly more than the X10, then I recommend it even though I'm an X10 owner and fan. The Hummingbird CPU, extra RAM, 8Gb onboard ROM, S-AMOLED screen, 2.1 (with 2.2 coming in September) make it superior to the X10. Sorry, but that's the truth.
As for the Desire, I would stay with the X10.
P.S. before I get flamed, I have no intention of moving to the Galaxy S.
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Nicely put
We're always going to have the need to upgrade to the latest android smartphone just to get the full potential. It's a never ending cycle, and unfortunately I'm a victim. I think I will stick with the Xperia X10 since I've gone through so much with it and although it is my 5th Android phone, I've learned most about Android capabilities from the X10. It's a good phone, I'm sure in a few months something awesome will come in Canada and we all going to want it. I've tried selling my phone but the resell value is just ridiculous. I'll be sticking with the X10, even though I love Super AMOLED. I want to be around when the bootloader gets cracked.

What is the resale value of X10?
I'm not going to do it anyway ... i'm just curious.
My next will be one of those dual core smartphones which most likely will be launched next summer
And if we don't get dualcore, at least we will have 1.5Ghz

Resale is about $300 cdn if that. Theres tonnes of them up on kijiji and craigslist.
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tuxStyle said:
What is the resale value of X10?
I'm not going to do it anyway ... i'm just curious.
My next will be one of those dual core smartphones which most likely will be launched next summer
And if we don't get dualcore, at least we will have 1.5Ghz
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lol dual core would be LEGENDARY

trojjanhorse said:
lol dual core would be LEGENDARY
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Not entirely sure about that. First thing is that it would drain the battery a lot more. Secondly it's not really needed for the most part.
We already have DSPs and dedicated chips that handles much of the heavy lifting like sound, video, graphics etc. Unless you're doing _heavy_ multitasking on your phone the performance increase would be minimal. And given that Android is pretty good at allocating resources you'd probably be better off with more RAM in the future rather than a new CPU.

ddewbofh said:
Not entirely sure about that. First thing is that it would drain the battery a lot more. Secondly it's not really needed for the most part.
We already have DSPs and dedicated chips that handles much of the heavy lifting like sound, video, graphics etc. Unless you're doing _heavy_ multitasking on your phone the performance increase would be minimal. And given that Android is pretty good at allocating resources you'd probably be better off with more RAM in the future rather than a new CPU.
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I'll take whatever I can. I'm just commenting on the advancements being accomplished w/ smartphones.

trojjanhorse said:
I'll take whatever I can. I'm just commenting on the advancements being accomplished w/ smartphones.
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I'm interested in the deverlopment as well. I think we're going to see a period of increased power, much like the Ghz wars of the past ten years. After that we're probably going to see more effort being put into better battery-life and increased portability. Much like Laptops are becoming the norm for computers I think Smartphones (or rather their descendants) are going to replace Laptops as the daily computing platform.
A major part of todays interweb users could probably switch from using computers to smartphones without losing any functionality. Just attach a larger screen and a bluetooth keyboard and you can Facebook, mail, surf the web, watch youtube, play casual games and enjoy media.

devilleather said:
Yea when 2.1 comes to the X10 all our problems will be over. I wont even have to work anymore probably. It will be such an amazing thing that if I were to accidentally drop my phone from 40 Ft. it will bounce right back into my pocket (unharmed). I am so tired of ppl *****ing about 1.6 vs 2.1/2.2. Get the FU** over it already. There are so many more things in the world to be concerned with. Just my opinion though.
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you got me all excited about this boomerang bouncy ball feature, then i realised that you were being sarcastic... devo

fk the x10 i should have waitied for something better. i just got a decent deal at the time.
For all the top end android phones this just doesnt come close. The ram is below spec for v 3. and no dam multi touch... I thought my T28 was my last SE and I gave them i more chance with this. If i had the choice again i would have got the desire no doubt about it....
just hoping when they crack this thing it will be more worth while.... strongly doubt it.....

mootmaina said:
fk the x10 i should have waitied for something better. i just got a decent deal at the time.
For all the top end android phones this just doesnt come close. The ram is below spec for v 3. and no dam multi touch... I thought my T28 was my last SE and I gave them i more chance with this. If i had the choice again i would have got the desire no doubt about it....
just hoping when they crack this thing it will be more worth while.... strongly doubt it.....
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Hang on, below spec for version 3? You're whining over a recommendation, not requirement, for an OS update that will come out six months after the device was released? Sheesh, some people really need to learn how to have realistic expectations.

fair enough of the v 3 "requirement" RAM is still well below the others anyway ... what really is so good about this phone? timescape... not a chance... mediascape umm.... screen, a little bigger but not a OLED or anything super.... in call volume is terrible.... outdated software and **** support.
X10 isnt top and thats all there is to it! however... coming from 6.5win this still kicks its ass.

mootmaina said:
fair enough of the v 3 "requirement" RAM is still well below the others anyway ... what really is so good about this phone? timescape... not a chance... mediascape umm.... screen, a little bigger but not a OLED or anything super.... in call volume is terrible.... outdated software and **** support.
X10 isnt top and thats all there is to it! however... coming from 6.5win this still kicks its ass.
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The support being **** isn't really fair, we've had more than one update every month that fixes a lot of issues so the support isn't bad. The outdated software has a point but the OS shipped with the phone is being updated and we're going to see a new OS in a matter of weeks.
OLED? I can go on for pages about it but I'll just mention two points. Sunlight and bad resolution.
It's totally crap in sunlight, even more so than any other screen I've experienced. I've tried to use the Desire in sunlight but even max brightness and shading it with my hand didn't help.
The resolution is crap. Period. Not only does it have a effective lower resolution when you use it compared to counting the actual pixels but it also makes text and high contrast graphics really blurry. If you have an oled display nearby I invite you to look closely at black text on white background on both it and a tft display and compare them. Even though the difference is smaller when look at from a distance many have complained that the difference, even though hard to notice from a distance, gives them headaches.
For me brighter colours don't make up for crap resolution. I'll gladly take fewer colors if it means that I can read on it and use it outdoors.

[Q] Sony Xperia Arc Opinions

The Arc looks like a fantastic all around phone in that it has great clear/loud sound/with mega bass. I wonder if this phone is using the Wolfson chip.
Takes great pictures in low light/video is smooth/Hdmi mirroring. Very smooth UI and great colors on the screen.
It has a single core Qualcomm Scorpion MSM8255 processor. I realize its not a Dual Core phone but since they are just entering the market I would prefer to go with a single core 2nd generation phone.
I was thinking of getting the Samsung Galaxy S II but Samsung is still doing updates on the first Galaxy S and I don't trust them re updates.
Sony has stated that they did not handle updates for the X10 very well but promise to do a lot better with updates in regards to the Arc,I believe them.
Furthermore bigger isn;t always better.(Dual Core Vs Single Core)
In the end I want a phone that has clarity/volume in regards to phone calls/Great Camera/Good Video/can play games on it.
Would love to hear your opinions on the Arc Pro/Con.

how could you believe a thief when he tells you he won't steal anything anymore...
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I'm looking for opinions on this phone not looking for stuff like you can never trust a thief.

Its not using wolfson chip.
The camera is about as good or maybe 5% better than the X10's. (check GSMArena photocompare)
The Bravia Engine works only with pictures or videos. Rest of the time its just like any other TFT LCD.
Internal memory is a measly 500 mb.
I personally don't think the Arc justifies its price tag, the Neo has everything the Arc has but at a much cheaper price.
Oh and like the X10, it will take months to crack the bootloader, so no custom ROMs.

SEFanX10i said:
Its not using wolfson chip.
The camera is about as good or maybe 5% better than the X10's. (check GSMArena photocompare)
The Bravia Engine works only with pictures or videos. Rest of the time its just like any other TFT LCD.
Internal memory is a measly 500 mb.
I personally don't think the Arc justifies its price tag, the Neo has everything the Arc has but at a much cheaper price.
Oh and like the X10, it will take months to crack the bootloader, so no custom ROMs.
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apparently this is not the case. The hard lockdown on devices in the past has made it hard even for SE to upgrade the phones. The new phones are said to have a more open bootloader to make it easier to update

+1 for the Neo (how could SE have stuffed up and not given their flagship model a front facing camera.. but given the cheaper model the same fancy new screen and camera chip and also given it a Front camera!) are they really that stupid?
I'm going buy an HTC or Samsung next..and if not them a motorola.. after those choices.. I might consider a Neo
Kiwi

And so here I am on a brand new Arc. Had it for a day or so and must say it's been very smooth so far. My latest phone was an X10i so this is not terribly different...
Anyway, first impressions are very good. Great screen. Native Exchange integration is perfect (except I can't sort contacts by other than first name, believe this is an Android quirk). WiFi tethering was very smooth. DLNA was hitch-free. In-call sound quality is very good, I'd say better than the other Xperias I've had (apparently it has a little mic that takes up background noice to cancel it out, though I think I'll need to fly with a head-set to experience this properly). Why they've switched the "menu" and "back" buttons around I can't understand for the love of me, but maybe there's a reason...
Overall, with my short experience it's been great, so far. Certainly a phone I would recommend to any non-X10 user and probably to those that have X10s, as well.
Cheers for now/M
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what a lucky person!!! i love the phone so much. you must be very close to SE. so can you please advise when it will be released. it think april is too late to wait. im keen to have the phone right away.
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A video review from a guy at ESATO forums:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlIiD5he1S8
My thoughts...very nice design, good screen and very good camera, the bad? it lags too much.

oh wow, I just actually clicked on the video LOL I know that person personally since he's in Thailand. Like both him/I said, wait for the final firmware. That unit he has is still a very early prototype, no where near the final. Some of the hardware isn't even implemented yet, you can tell which . Cheers

joplin48 said:
I'm looking for opinions on this phone not looking for stuff like you can never trust a thief.
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look,when you talking about you don't trust sgs which is only 3 months younger than x10 and got 2.2 update almost the same time as x10 got 2.1, and knowing that SE announced x10 would never receive 2.2 but samsung never claim they won't provide further version, but then you said you trust in SE?
i don't think you need any oppinion at all.
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Got to play the arc, neo and play last night, and I also saw the arc at CES. Its certainly improved since then, and huggee fast first time round.
One thing I noticed is that the widget overview is now smooth, no lag like before.
As for neo vs arc, there are lots of similarities, but when you pick the phones up the arc feels better, special somehow. The neo feels normal... Also the display is better on the arc.
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Does arc support 3g video call?
GN Multimedia - X10i

Nope. No front-view camera.

McHan said:
Nope. No front-view camera.
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Thanks. So sad... really 3g video call feature.
GN Multimedia - X10i

Neo vs Arc..... I'll say Arc for the design, never used front cameras and don't see a reason to use it
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i am really happy eith it, is fast and has one of the most important thnigs to me... design, the galaxy brand look like crap and are based on iphone design

There are Differences on Arc and Neo not just the Looks
Arc
>Clear Black Panel(No Air Gap, Great Sunlight Legibility, 20% more Brighter than Neo)
>Lightweight(117g) vs (126g)
>Slim Arc Body(8.7mm~10.5mm) vs (13mm)
>Screen Size 4.2" vs 3.7"
Neo
>Front Facing Camera
>Better Hardware Positions(Camera Sensor, Shutter Key)

Sony Xperia Arc vs Samsung Galaxy S2

Sony Xperia Arc: vs Samsung Galaxy S2
I'm really interested in the Arc due to the fact it has Autofocus/Hdmi/Takes excellent pictures in low light plus great pictures in general. The Video is very smooth/clear. You can run mutiple apps without lag. It comes loaded with 2.3. Must important of all it has clear/loud/incredible sound whether using the media player or talking on the phone or using the speaker phone.It has a great screen with vivid colors.
Just because its a single core processor does not make it slow. This is the same processor that the Desire HD uses.
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that the Samsung S2 is not a good phone.
Here are my thoughts
-Dual core processors are brand new(1st generation)
-it will take awhile for them to prove themselves
-how long will updates take
-it will take awhile for developers to develop games/apps for dual core phones
-not everyone needs or uses the power of dual-core processor
Final Thoughts
At the end of the day I want a phone that I can clearly talk on/play the odd game/listen to music. Play utube stuff/watch videos without lag/surf the internet the odd time/take some picts/odd video.
Im not into heavy graphics/rpg games/editing movies or pictures.
I believe that Arc can do all the above and more.
To me Dual core is overkill for me for now. Besides at the end of the year we'll have Quad Core phones.
Tell me your honest opinions on the Arc/Vs Samsung Galaxy S2.
Thanks
Joplin

For me is just easy, if heavy for game play, I go for Xperia Play. If not, I go for Xperia Arc.
Because I hate the out shape design of the Galaxy S, it's too similar to iPhone, even the UI.
Arc out shape design is too great!!
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Gaming is fine on Arc, too. The screen is more than huge enough to support gaming via touch.
As for topic, I'd go for Arc, considering as you said, dualcore won't matter for at least next 2-3 quartals, and even not then as well.
It's a experimental area, phones don't really need dual core stuff just yet imo.

In the end it's not about what people tell you
It's about what you want
For me i'm going with Arc, it has everything I want in it
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This sub forum will tend to be full of people who are genuinely interested in the Arc. If you wan't some interesting opinions you should open the same thread in the galaxy s2 sub forum.

wickedrami said:
This sub forum will tend to be full of people who are genuinely interested in the Arc. If you wan't some interesting opinions you should open the same thread in the galaxy s2 sub forum.
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Of course, why would someone hate SG2 go to their section and waste everybody's time
Same goes here
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wickedrami said:
This sub forum will tend to be full of people who are genuinely interested in the Arc. If you wan't some interesting opinions you should open the same thread in the galaxy s2 sub forum.
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Well some people are actually genuinely unbiased.
It's just a mobile phone, also, strictly speaking, you'll milk more out of Arc than SG2 with your money for the time being. But on the end, everything falls down to preference. Dual-core won't make that much difference for the time being, plus I'd imagine it rapes your battery life faster. On another side, SG2, if the dual-core CPU actually matters much, is the smarter choice here. Again, proving my point that personal preference is all, I've seen some people picking up inferior phones just because of brand or it's looks ( cough cough iPhone )
Pick what you like, is the best answer you can get on these forums.

I appreciate all the positive feedback.
Thanks
Greg

refract said:
Well some people are actually genuinely unbiased.
It's just a mobile phone, also, strictly speaking, you'll milk more out of Arc than SG2 with your money for the time being. But on the end, everything falls down to preference. Dual-core won't make that much difference for the time being, plus I'd imagine it rapes your battery life faster. On another side, SG2, if the dual-core CPU actually matters much, is the smarter choice here. Again, proving my point that personal preference is all, I've seen some people picking up inferior phones just because of brand or it's looks ( cough cough iPhone )
Pick what you like, is the best answer you can get on these forums.
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Easy fella. It was a joke. Ofcourse at the end of the day it's all down to personal preference.
Back to the topic. I'll go for the arc because I am a sucker for eye candy!

refract said:
Well some people are actually genuinely unbiased.
It's just a mobile phone, also, strictly speaking, you'll milk more out of Arc than SG2 with your money for the time being. But on the end, everything falls down to preference. Dual-core won't make that much difference for the time being, plus I'd imagine it rapes your battery life faster. On another side, SG2, if the dual-core CPU actually matters much, is the smarter choice here. Again, proving my point that personal preference is all, I've seen some people picking up inferior phones just because of brand or it's looks ( cough cough iPhone )
Pick what you like, is the best answer you can get on these forums.
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Just throwing my .02 in... I'm returning my Atrix within the next week or so due to Motorola locking down the bootloader and Designgears calling it a lost cause... but I figured I'd just throw it out there that the Atrix with the Tegra 2 (dual core) CRUSHES any other phone I've EVER owned in the last 6 years on the battery life. If the bootloader wasn't signed I'd drop Cyanogenmod 7 onto it and be a happy camper for the next 2 years (Tegra 3... mmmmm...)

wickedrami said:
Easy fella. It was a joke. Ofcourse at the end of the day it's all down to personal preference.
Back to the topic. I'll go for the arc because I am a sucker for eye candy!
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Guess I should've added a smiley or two in that post
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Just throwing my .02 in... I'm returning my Atrix within the next week or so due to Motorola locking down the bootloader and Designgears calling it a lost cause... but I figured I'd just throw it out there that the Atrix with the Tegra 2 (dual core) CRUSHES any other phone I've EVER owned in the last 6 years on the battery life. If the bootloader wasn't signed I'd drop Cyanogenmod 7 onto it and be a happy camper for the next 2 years (Tegra 3... mmmmm...)
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Hmm, the battery life thing is interesting, a man would expect it to drain more power ._.

I believe that dual core processors are more power efficient because they each run at lower clock speeds, and therefore lower heat.. and therefore use less battery!

Ah, fair point. Guess I'm just dumb today

specwise, SGS2 overwhelm arc
pricewise, arc might has a slight victory
either way, it's back to yourself (and your pocket, lol)

Makenboshi said:
specwise, SGS2 overwhelm arc
pricewise, arc might has a slight victory
either way, it's back to yourself (and your pocket, lol)
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what makes you say that?.. what about the SGS2 overwhelms the arc?

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what makes you say that?.. what about the SGS2 overwhelms the arc?
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gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3619&idPhone2=3621
specwise, arc is overwhelmed by SGS2
but if you compare price/performance, arc would came as the winner
btw the bravia engine is so cool, and xmor also rocks
just hoping the bootloader could be unlocked, keep my fingers crossed
a short video by me when trying the arc demo unit
youtube.com/watch?v=D4uc1PHxA9Y

Originally Posted by Makenbosh// My Reply>>>>>>>>>>>>
Bigger does not mean better. Sure Samsung has dual core but why do I need to go 150mph/ 100 mph with the Arc is fine by me. Besides the ticket will be cheaper. Bonus point goes to ARC

rumour says all new SE phones will be unlocked if they have time to do it

Makenboshi said:
gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3619&idPhone2=3621
specwise, arc is overwhelmed by SGS2
but if you compare price/performance, arc would came as the winner
btw the bravia engine is so cool, and xmor also rocks
just hoping the bootloader could be unlocked, keep my fingers crossed
a short video by me when trying the arc demo unit
youtube.com/watch?v=D4uc1PHxA9Y
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Dude, never really trust gsm arena
I would love to have dual core phone, but it's not available in the market, yet..
So, I decided to have this arc.. I love the design
About, the price, IMO it's a bit over priced
Ah, can't wait 9 April
Cheers

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what makes you say that?.. what about the SGS2 overwhelms the arc?
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The fact you cannot get rid of Sony Ericsson's ugly blues theme makes it pretty underwhelming. Sexy phone but ruined again by SE. I was set to buy it but after learning there is no way around the iPhone-esque lockedness I would just get SGS2. If I want a locked experience I have the iPhone 4 for that. No need to settle for same thing again.

Galaxy S2, The Destroyer?

So the GS2 has been getting fantastic reviews and the specs are just monstorous! It pretty much kills anything on the market right now, how do you feel about this? Will the Arc be outdated quicky? These phones move WAY to fast for me...its not even funny...you buy a phone and theres already one that makes you feel inferior...

solidkevin said:
So the GS2 has been getting fantastic reviews and the specs are just monstorous! It pretty much kills anything on the market right now, how do you feel about this? Will the Arc be outdated quicky? These phones move WAY to fast for me...its not even funny...you buy a phone and theres already one that makes you feel inferior...
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While I think the GS2 has better technical specs than the SE, I think the overall design of the Arc is much more unique than that of the GS2. I also find that the Sammys tend to be more plasticy (if that is a word). Additionally, I don't think apps (and the OS) have been optimized for the dual core processor in the GS2.
What the GS2 has going for it, is a front facing camera (which should have in the Arc too) and an unlocked bootloader! Those two might tempt me to pick up a GS2 to play around with.

You should have waited for S2 instead of buying Arc What specifications S2 was going to have, was published on every mobile site since S2 was announced

I do think always to buy things per my own need not to what is the highest. I did care for design and decent performance. ARC was and is the solution for me. Does S2 devalue my arc? no! This is not a good example but I will try
You are driving an Audi RS4 and then Nissan GTR comes out with a performance car, do I care? no because I love my RS4 very much(BTW I don't have a RS4)

Nimche said:
I do think always to buy things per my own need not to what is the highest. I did care for design and decent performance. ARC was and is the solution for me. Does S2 devalue my arc? no! This is not a good example but I will try
You are driving an Audi RS4 and then Nissan GTR comes out with a performance car, do I care? no because I love my RS4 very much(BTW I don't have a RS4)
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+1 well said..

SGS II is also ~150 USD more expensive than the Arc.
With the rapid growth of GPU and CPU for mobile, IMHO, spending your every pennies to get the top line of these hardwares every couple months is not worth it. It will get depreciated very quickly. And all the values left would be:
1. design and built quality
2. battery life
3. functionalities
Arc's beautiful design and 8MP camera + exmor r, however, will stay on top of the line for quite a while

(1) The Galaxy S2 is Fugly
(2) "Samsung" and "quality" are two words that wont be used in the same sentence.

I don't think the Arc is in anyway now going to be forgotten about.
I was initially going to wait on the S2, but it was going to cost me about £150 on the plan I'm on, where as the Arc was free. Not really bothered about the dual core CPU as it runs more than fast enough as it is. Front facing camera I don't care about as I'm never going to use it (don't think many iphone users do either as it only works on wifi). The feel and quality of the S2 is way way way below that of the Arc too.
So still well happy with my choice.
Dazza

solidkevin said:
So the GS2 has been getting fantastic reviews and the specs are just monstorous! It pretty much kills anything on the market right now, how do you feel about this? Will the Arc be outdated quicky? These phones move WAY to fast for me...its not even funny...you buy a phone and theres already one that makes you feel inferior...
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I just purchase Arc from Japan knowing it's long been outdated. Even several months old Atrix's has killer specs compared to Arc. I still went for Arc mainly because of it's styling.
I want to wait for GS2 but the styling doesn't appeal to me and not having LED notification kind of killed my desire for it.
With Android handsets, by the time the phone you desire hits the market, there is another killer one coming in a month. It's hard to keep waiting. But, I will move to GS2 if it looks better outside than it is in pictures. But, I doubt Samsung can make anything as attractive as SE phones . Just the SAMSUNG logo kills it for me

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(2) "Samsung" and "quality" are two words that wont be used in the same sentence.
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Could not agree more!!! Well said!

LOL I agree, it has monster specs but it is FUGLY! Arc and IP4 are MUCH better looking..

SGS2 is definately amazing phone specs wise. There's no denying that. I was going to get SGS2, but got Arc instead. I just wanted to get rid of my iPhone.
Arc looks amazing, works very well and is fast. SGS2 is faster and has better screen, but Arc actually does everything I need currently. I think Arc is enough for me the next 2 years. There will always be new stuff coming, but there is no real need to change every 6 months.
SGS2 will probably be the king until SGS3. But it doesn't make my Arc bad. Actually my Arc is excellent

A phone with better specs than the Arc has been released, so what?
It was bound to happen at some point.

What I really don't like about the galaxy phones is how they look and feel like previous versions of the iPhone. Seriously, the tipping point for getting the arc over the other phones is its unique style. Do you trade off specs and performance for style? Not really. But I don't see the need to pay extra when I can get something that I want and that pretty much caters to what I need.
If you want to be future-proof, get the SGS2 - it might be the HTC Desire of dual-cores with its potential long life. Give it a couple months more and a few more dual-core phones will come out. Will you be wanting every new phone with better specs?
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mtechfan said:
(1) The Galaxy S2 is Fugly
(2) "Samsung" and "quality" are two words that wont be used in the same sentence.
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+1 on that

I think you guys are stuck with arc. And couldn't afford sgs2 so why bashing it? And quality on sgs2 is way better than arc. Only thing arc has is camera and Hdmi 2.3 and slim other than that same as x10. I don't see how and why people bought the arc
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+1 on that
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I could afford to be choosy when opting for a phone I liked the arc so got the arc you can to through life upgrading everything tvs pcs cars houses phones but there is always something bigger and better round the corner so just enjoy what you have
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well, i was on the fence between both phones but ended up with the arc, its just an awesome phone, super fast, even in the browser, which i was surprised.
the x10 was trash, but now that sony is giving it 2.3 it makes use of all of its hardware. so its actually a pretty good phone now. the arc of course is way better.
dual-core wouldnt really be as future proof as people are making it out to be....unless ofcourse your idea of future proof is about 6ish months long till the next big thing comes out....and didnt nvidia already map out quad-cores? which means the wait for 2.5+ would be needed since 2.4 will take advantage of the dual-cores.
coming from an atrix, the only real noticable difference in speed comes when you open certain apps, and even then...the difference is by about...1, maybe 2 seconds? so until android can utilize dual-cores, a single core phone done right is fantastic.
*personal preference here*i love sony's screen for movies and pics vs Samoled. cant comment on Samoled plus but the over-saturation and fake colours on the galaxy S phones drove me nuts :/
so those are some of my reasons for getting the arc over the Gs2.

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+1 on that
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+1 on this.. lol..!!

Doesn't look like double cores have any real advantage right now, something really better for the user. Unless you're counting any second after app launching.
It's definitely the future but I wouldn't pee in my pants because of that right now.
SGSII is probably awesome. However has inferior design, inferior UI (for me of course) plus the fear of quality. And Samsung software doesn't seem polished ever. SGSI had issues AFAIK and just look at their WP7 problems story.

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Im planning to get a new phone, the infuse or g2x which one should i pick...i still love my x10 (
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G2x over the infuse definetly. The dual core processor is awesome and its fast, awesome screen, and one of the best out there
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The colours are often tooo dark and unnatural on the sgs2. There is not nuch loading diffrence between the Arc and Sgs2. The qrc screen has more natural colour that look great! So defibetely the arc.
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if u want power along with beauty go for Samsung Galaxy S2 (the best phone available right now)... latest hardware shouldnt be outdated for another 10-12 months... btw some of the TOP devs at XDA are already working on SGS2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1058
lg 2x (aka G2x) has got good hardware but they have wasted a lot of space on the handset design... i have tested it and the display/screen is only 4'' but the whole device feels unnecessarily bulky/big almost as big as the 4.3'' ones... the touch sensitive buttons are not really very sensitive and require a little fiddling to get them to work (especially HOME button)...
if u just want to go for the looks of the Arc only then buy it... already outdated hardware... it is already 8-10 months old (MSM7230/QSD8255)...

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The colours are often tooo dark and unnatural on the sgs2. There is not nuch loading diffrence between the Arc and Sgs2. The qrc screen has more natural colour that look great! So defibetely the arc.
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LOL
wow it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about
The sgs2 beats the arc in every possible area, except MAYBE camera, and even that is debatable.

DooMLoRD said:
if u want power along with beauty go for Samsung Galaxy S2 (the best phone available right now)... latest hardware shouldnt be outdated for another 10-12 months... btw some of the TOP devs at XDA are already working on SGS2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1058
lg 2x (aka G2x) has got good hardware but they have wasted a lot of space on the handset design... i have tested it and the display/screen is only 4'' but the whole device feels unnecessarily bulky/big almost as big as the 4.3'' ones... the touch sensitive buttons are not really very sensitive and require a little fiddling to get them to work (especially HOME button)...
if u just want to go for the looks of the Arc only then buy it... already outdated hardware... it is already 8-10 months old (MSM7230/QSD8255)...
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Now here is someone who knows what he's talking about....
You'd be stupid to buy an arc right now imo.

SG2 is your best option for now but personally I'm waiting for SE to come up with a good xperia phone (hardware-wise) because although Sg2 is really powerful with impressive specs imo it hasn't got style at all

riginal said:
SG2 is your best option for now but personally I'm waiting for SE to come up with a good xperia phone (hardware-wise) because although Sg2 is really powerful with impressive specs imo it hasn't got style at all
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you'll be waiting a long time....
By the time they put a dual core out, quad core phones will be out.
SE is always one step behind the game for some reason, they definitely aren't innovators

fiscidtox said:
you'll be waiting a long time....
By the time they put a dual core out, quad core phones will be out.
SE is always one step behind the game for some reason, they definitely aren't innovators
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Well only ONE step is fine with me as long as it's something as good looking and stylish as X10 but currently it's more than just one step
& I can wait for a while because I'm still happy with my X10

riginal said:
Well only ONE step is fine with me as long as it's something as good looking and stylish as X10 but currently it's more than just one step
& I can wait for a while because I'm still happy with my X10
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I'd like to see them put something out that is at least on par with the current technology....
I don't want to buy a phone and have it be obsolete in just a couple months

PlayGunsta said:
The colours are often tooo dark and unnatural on the sgs2. There is not nuch loading diffrence between the Arc and Sgs2. The qrc screen has more natural colour that look great! So defibetely the arc.
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Wow, the OP wasn't even talking about either phones.

Impresive responses, thank you guys!
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fiscidtox said:
LOL
wow it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about
The sgs2 beats the arc in every possible area, except MAYBE camera, and even that is debatable.
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You're calling almost 1 second faster beating a phone? Then you're crazy.

kozxmartt said:
Wow, the OP wasn't even talking about either phones.
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Ever heard of advise?

fiscidtox said:
I'd like to see them put something out that is at least on par with the current technology....
I don't want to buy a phone and have it be obsolete in just a couple months
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by the way why you think that SE won't catch up? I mean they didn't do bad with their first android phone (hardware-wise) or did they?

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You're calling almost 1 second faster beating a phone? Then you're crazy.
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1 second faster?? lol
Where are you getting these numbers?
Also, 1 second of speed for a cpu makes a hell of a difference, one second of lag vs. one second of no lag.
It is 2-3 times more powerful and has at least double the quadrant score and linpack.
The cpu/gpu is a current gen vs. an outdated one.
You can think whatever you want, but electronics is my job/field.
The sgs2 is far more advanced than the arc.

riginal said:
by the way why you think that SE won't catch up? I mean they didn't do bad with their first android phone (hardware-wise) or did they?
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It wasn't bad, but they pushed off releasing it so far that by then it was falling behind, especially with the version of android.
Then they release their new batch of phones, a full generation behind what the technology is shifting to.
I love my x10 still, but I'm definitely not impressed with SE's latest offerings. They're going to have to do/release something major to get me to buy an SE phone for my next phone

fiscidtox said:
It wasn't bad, but they pushed off releasing it so far that by then it was falling behind, especially with the version of android.
Then they release their new batch of phones, a full generation behind what the technology is shifting to.
I love my x10 still, but I'm definitely not impressed with SE's latest offerings. They're going to have to do/release something major to get me to buy an SE phone for my next phone
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precisely...
the dual core chips (MSM8660/Terga2) were already available they should have atleast kept the "Flagship" phones i.e. the Arc & Play with latest hardware and kept the rest on single core (MSM7230/QSD8255)...
BTW i already have the Arc, its a beautiful device but not really that powerful...
still like my X10 with all the dev thats going around... its challenging

I have ordered a S2 and will recive ut in about 2weeks. It. Will be my first phone that is not a sony Ericsson.
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The SGS2 has definetely some lagg. But not as much as on arc. Fanboys My next phone will be a quadcore from HTC If it comes haha!