Hey there,
do any of you experience a strange electricity like sensation when touching the surface of the keyboard dock while it is charging and the transformer is docked? Especially directly to the left of the touchpad and on that middle part just above the keyboard keys. I want to know if I just have a thinly insulated one and should return it or if that is a general thing.
It's very noticable when sliding the finger over the surface lightly.
If you get it while charging plug the charger into the socket upside down, this should fix it.
While it's on USB no idea how to get rid of it but USB's current output isn't strong enough to do anything.
What the heck.. putting the charger in upside down did fix it!
Thank you very much! And why does that work?
I too feel the strange electricity feel when I move my fingers over the dock case while recharging. When I pull out the charger, the feeling is gone.
This is not normal!
Seriously, this is a combination of personal confirmation bias and a weird texture on the keyboard. You will notice you only feel if when your hand is actually moving across the surface, never just touching it. The dock case is made of plastic, so while it's possible for it to hold a static charge induced through friction it will NOT conduct any current from the power supply or battery. After some use this texture clearly wears in a little and the sensation stops.
Then why goes the feeling away when I unplug the charger and is there again when I replug the charger?
The feel is always there, only it is greater when sliding over ther surfaces or edges.
Seriously, there is an electric feel.
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Then why goes the feeling away when I unplug the charger and is there again when I replug the charger?
The feel is always there, only it is greater when sliding over ther surfaces or edges.
Seriously, there is an electric feel.
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Rather than reply, you should look up 'Confirmation Bias'
sassafras
duclicsic said:
Seriously, this is a combination of personal confirmation bias and a weird texture on the keyboard. You will notice you only feel if when your hand is actually moving across the surface, never just touching it. The dock case is made of plastic, so while it's possible for it to hold a static charge induced through friction it will NOT conduct any current from the power supply or battery. After some use this texture clearly wears in a little and the sensation stops.
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No, the sensation wil not stop if the surface were to "wear down", it has nothing to do with the texture of the device. The only way it will stop is by flipping the transformer around.
That said you will not get any type of shock from this (unless its realy defective).
I will believe it when someone gets a multimeter on there and confirms there is a potential between the case and ground, but since the case is an insulator I have serious doubts this will ever happen.
You realise that you're suggesting that a current is flowing from the power supply of your transformer, through the plastic case, into your hands and back to ground? That or you're feeling an electric field throgh the plastic, which must be on the order of several kilovolts to produce such a sensation..
Basically the concept that you are feeling an electrical phenomenon is not at all credible.
Ha I noticed this today only since getting to Spain and having to use the Euro plug which you can plug in 'upside down'.
I've never felt it in the UK and all morning I've been thinking "man thats wierd" - I log onto XDA and the 1st post I see relates to it... just turned over my adapater and its gone.
duclicsic said:
Seriously, this is a combination of personal confirmation bias and a weird texture on the keyboard. You will notice you only feel if when your hand is actually moving across the surface, never just touching it. The dock case is made of plastic, so while it's possible for it to hold a static charge induced through friction it will NOT conduct any current from the power supply or battery. After some use this texture clearly wears in a little and the sensation stops.
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If you don't know anything about what you are claiming to understand, don't post. There ae several long threads on this earlier and the issue is real and has been verified. It is leakage from the wall charger and has been measured and verified using an osciliscope (which has no feeling) . With the plug in one direction there is about 5V AC while with the plug in the other orientation, there is about 60VAC. Sorry for being abrupt, but you claim in wrong.
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I will believe it when someone gets a multimeter on there and confirms there is a potential between the case and ground, but since the case is an insulator I have serious doubts this will ever happen.
You realise that you're suggesting that a current is flowing from the power supply of your transformer, through the plastic case, into your hands and back to ground? That or you're feeling an electric field throgh the plastic, which must be on the order of several kilovolts to produce such a sensation..
Basically the concept that you are feeling an electrical phenomenon is not at all credible.
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If you haven't noticed, the bezel of the Transformer and the body of the keyboard dock are metal or metallized.
Please search before you talk trash.
I have this feeling too, when i just got my TF.
I would like to try to plug the charger upside down, but over here, my plug has three legs, hence there is no way i can do that....
Any one who have solve this issue, please share.
wildpig8 said:
I have this feeling too, when i just got my TF.
I would like to try to plug the charger upside down, but over here, my plug has three legs, hence there is no way i can do that....
Any one who have solve this issue, please share.
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That's wierd, see though that's how it shoulda been in the first place, there should have been a ground prong on it so that this wouldn't even be possible to begin with. Doesn't the plug itself though come apart in 2 peices? I know it's supposed to but mine came togehter, but maybe pull it apart and flip the 2 peices? Dunno if that's possible since mine was already together so no clue what it looks like apart.
Is the dock case plastic? Looks and feels like metal (inside keyboard side).
OK, just plugged in the charger: I feel electricity. I turn the euro (I am in Belgium) plug round and the feeling is gone.
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That's wierd, see though that's how it shoulda been in the first place, there should have been a ground prong on it so that this wouldn't even be possible to begin with. Doesn't the plug itself though come apart in 2 peices? I know it's supposed to but mine came togehter, but maybe pull it apart and flip the 2 peices? Dunno if that's possible since mine was already together so no clue what it looks like apart.
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The country adapter (plug) snaps in and out very hard. Originally,it came as two pieces,but now comes assembled (maybe because there were issues getting it to assemble correctly). Mine came unassembled. There are only two conductors in the charger assy (hot and neutral) no ground. I am betting the third pin on your plug (gnd) is connected to nothing. When plugged in in onedirection there is leakage to the shield of the usb connector which is connected to the shield of the charge connector which is connected to the metal frame around the edge of the TF.
It's fun watching all this unfold for people who don't use the search tools here. OP, search for this, it's been exhausted in several threads, with measurements, testing, power supply revisions etc etc.
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It's fun watching all this unfold for people who don't use the search tools here. OP, search for this, it's been exhausted in several threads, with measurements, testing, power supply revisions etc etc.
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Sorry, then I am using the wrong search words because I cannot find those threads ...
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Sorry, then I am using the wrong search words because I cannot find those threads ...
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Look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077595
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Have you ever touched the backcover while loading the Leo and did you noticed a "vibration" ? Is there any electricity flowing through?
and for what the hell are the contacts inside form decive heading cover?
gretz
think it does vibrate on boot, and contacts i assume are for the car holder, if im wrong i will be corrected
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think it does vibrate on boot, and contacts i assume are for the car holder, if im wrong i will be corrected
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I doesnt mean a phisycal vibration made by the motor... it feels like a vibration if you run one's hand over the cover while pluged power in.. or is it only me?
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I doesnt mean a phisycal vibration made by the motor... it feels like a vibration if you run one's hand over the cover while pluged power in.. or is it only me?
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I know the kind of 'vibration' you mean, I have mine plugged in now and I can't feel anything like an electric current running through the back panel.
Maybe it's just the grain of the metal?
I absolutely know what you mean.
When the HD2 is plugged in, if you swipe slowly from one side of the cover to the other one, you'll notice a very light vibration.
If you don't have it plugged in, you don't notice it.
EDIT: I also noticed that behaviour before on my external HDD
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EDIT: I also noticed that behaviour before on my external HDD
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Aye I had it on a Vaio 2.5" USB HDD I had a couple of years back, try licking it, lol!
Just tried it and couldn't feel a vibration. I did have to remove the plastic case that my phone is in to check this so it may have stopped any charge from being generated?. I didn't use the case when I first got the phone but I don't ever remember feeling this when charging. The contacts are definatey for the car holder back cover replacement.
Regards.
it might just be the brushed aluminium, my macbook pro has the same thing, it comes and goes... don't really think charging the battery is a factor... might just be static electricity
I noticed this on a realy cheap dvd player years ago... the player was under power I could even create some lightnings
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Have you ever touched the backcover while loading the Leo and did you noticed a "vibration" ? Is there any electricity flowing through?
and for what the hell are the contacts inside form decive heading cover?
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Okay, I've seen a few threads like this so here's the answer:
The "vibration" you can feel is the result of VERY TINY amounts of capacitively coupled electric current from the mains charger.
IT IS NOT DANGEROUS!!!!
(All the time around you in the air there are electric currents flowing from lights, electric outlets, in fact from all electrical equipment.
The reason you don't notice this is because the resistance of the air is normally very high and your resistance is, relatively, very low so that only tiny voltages are present in your body.)
When you brush your fingers (or the back of your hand is best, because it is drier) across the HD2 metal battery cover it picks up the tiny capacitive currents from the 50Hz mains charger because you are making a bad (high resistance) connection to the metal cover and a voltage is allowed to develop across the connection, this will be around 220V A.C. but (I say again) at a tiny tiny current.
Your wonderful human nerve endings are VERY sensitive and can detect these small currents.
If you touch the HD2 cover firmly a better connection is made with your wet skin and the voltage will drop to almost zero as the resistance becomes lower.
Experiment with some types of home appliances like the metal case on your HiFi and you will also feel these "leakage" currents, they are everywhere lol.
Note: This is NOT the same as the static discharges from your headphones in this thread, those voltages are VERY HIGH and are generated by your clothes/carpets/shoes etc.
HTH
Kim
The above post is a great explanation and I too have the vibration on my device.
Reminds me of my old iMate Jasjar. The top cover had a brushed aluminum plate giving exactly the same effect.
Regards
ditto cozzykim's comments
this is often down to the quality of the PSU connected to the mains, especially those that are double-insulated (dont need an earth connection) as they have no reference to ground the voltage the PSU delivers between it's - and + pins will be correct but they might float 100s of volts above ground.
I've not felt anything through my stock HTC charger, but if i use my cheap-chinese-bought-off-ebay charger for my laptop with a usb cable i can feel it.
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ditto cozzykim's comments
this is often down to the quality of the PSU connected to the mains, especially those that are double-insulated (dont need an earth connection) as they have no reference to ground the voltage the PSU delivers between it's - and + pins will be correct but they might float 100s of volts above ground.
I've not felt anything through my stock HTC charger, but if i use my cheap-chinese-bought-off-ebay charger for my laptop with a usb cable i can feel it.
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It has to do with the earthing of the device.. this happens with meatal devices that are not grounded..
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It has to do with the earthing of the device.. this happens with meatal devices that are not grounded..
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Correct, as dexterslab said, it's with double insulated devices that are not referenced to ground and can not happen with a Live/Neutral/Earth system, for example, a toaster which has a grounded case.
I modified my Galaxy Note to use inductive charging via a palm touchstone / patch.
Just a quick note. Not a whole lot to contribute here, because I largely followed the examples of the Qian Qi. That guy is awesome.
I don't think I voided a warranty, either. Only minimal teardown required (black plastic back, then the speaker section). Never came across a sticker I had to remove....
Useful links:
galaxy s inductive charging mod
evo 4g induction charging mod
galaxy note teardown video
galaxy note teardown pics
Notes:
- Buy a good soldering iron. Weller WESD51, set to 610 deg F, with 1/32" long conical tip, with lots of flux and lots of flux remover are the only reason I could do this. I can't stress enough the value of having good temperature control, knowledge of temperature, and so forth. I stumbled around with an "ordinary" soldering iron for a long time, and in hindsite, I can't believe I did so.
- Do not choke on the price. I already had a lot of soldering gear, and I bought $220 more. Spend the money. It's worth it.
- Watch the curious inventor youtube videos on soldering. This guy. Watch everything, several times. http://store.curiousinventor.com/
- You want 30 gauge wire. It's the only thing that just barely can be crammed in. I used the "Kynar" coated type. Buy at least 2 colors.
- as you look at the phone disassembled, with speaker on the bottom left, the +5 pin on the micro usb (MHL) port is the leftmost. I attached a wire to that, and a ground wire to the housing where the port was soldered.
- routed the wires under the speaker, then back, then into a VERY slight indentation into the battery compartment. used a blue "safe open" tool to help shape the wire / crimp ends. Once in the battery compartment, you're golden. Attach the inductive charging coil to the back of the samsung plastic back, add solder to the pads, and attach the wires.
- Attached is a picture with roughly how I routed wires. Red is +5V, Blue is ground. Be sure and double check if my recollection is right where the indentation is into the battery compartment. (that part is by memory).
- dont leave too much slack. it's really hard to get the samsung black pastic panel back on. Mine very slightly bulges.
- be careful where you put the charging sticky patch, because this phone is a little bit bigger than a palm pre. You have to consider if the phone can sit on the charger and "lock in" with the magnets. If you place it too high, it actually can't (in portrait)!
- Qian Qi had a really interesting point: most articles about how Li-ion batteries behave are wrong, and fully discharging the battery drastically reduces the number of cycles you have. So this is actually a very useful mod--whenever you don't use the phone, toss it on the charger.
Thanks for summing it up! Was actually thinking of doing this mod myself. Question: do you have a protective case on your Note? If so - what kind and how badly does it affect the magnetic properties?
No case. Especially because the note is so big, I think it would be unmanageable.
I took the samsung thin plastic back, and placed the Palm PRE (with charging coil still attached) on top of it, on the touchstone -- to figure out proper placement & mark with a pencil. I noticed a buzzing sound, coming from (I think) the induction coil on the palm pre back itself. I suspect if you use a case, this wont work well.
Also, the size/weight/placement of the galaxy note are such that the magnets are just barely strong enough to hold it. One time my phone was near, but off, the charger. I'm not sure if vibration from the phone did that, or my kids
In summary, I'm not sure how well it would work with a case. You might be able to research this on the net; among the 15 or 20 people that have bought a Pre, you might be able to find some info about the effect of a case on inductive charging.
tight squeeze?
im wanting to try this mod i have my touchstone on the way not thank you amazon but it seems like to me that the pad from the pre wouldnt fit under the cover of our phablet =/ could you post pics of the finished product and i think this is the only instance that i have seen someone attempt this with the note and i want to try it i love my note but would love it even more with inductive charging.
I am not the original author but I performed a different Touchstone mod and posted pics here:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...1-galaxy-note-touchstone-mod-photo-heavy.html
Hope it helps!
-darren
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Thank you!!!
Thank you so much for your post I have my materials on the way but I hadn't seen a detailed guide for the note other than this one and was worried I would have to solder directly to the usb pins which looked scary lol I did have two questions though would your mod work the same way for the at&t note? Specifically the points where you soldered to the phone and can wireless charging be performed through a case?
Hey, OP here. You may want to hold off just a bit. Mine is exhibiting some issues now. As in, it says "charging" but it doesn't do so wirelessly. The phone will stay "charging" but the battery % never goes up. (It was slow before, but would charge fully over a night).
Charging via USB still works.
It may be something simple; I'm not sure. But I need to crack it open and take a peek, and I haven't had time to do that yet because my phone is functional at the moment.
If nothing has conspicuously changed, there may be something about the design that isn't sustainable. Or maybe my solder joint halfway broke, or one of the wires got smashed enough so that it's partially broken...
I'll write back with my findings. Bug me if I don't
Thanks for the notice I was about to pull the trigger lol tbh I probably shouldn't attempt this I've never done a mod like this before and I'm not exactly a surgeon with a soldering iron lolvthatvbeing being said I'm going to attempt this on an old evo 4g I have before I do surgery on my baby lol plus I'm already familiar with the guts of an evo from screen repairs ill report back with my results
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Success it took some doing but I got it I haven't done the mod on my note yet but I did it on my evo last night and it works its rough I haven't cleaned it up yet but I'll post the pics I got this mod from www.goodandevo.net
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Thank you for this post.
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No prob I just wanted to see if i could do it and if I can do it with little soldering experience I'm sure most could do it I haven't done this mod to my galaxy note though as there is way less room in its a far more complicated mod than the evo because you have to make room for wires in a device samsung made as thin as possible and the way you have to route the wires I feel like the solder joints would just break
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For those who want to try this out but still have warrantee just buy a backcover, a micro usb plug and assemble it according to the directions here.If you need the note just take out the usb plug and the back cover and you're good to go.... Or leave it there.....
For those who don't know what pins to use on the usb plug:
Pin: 1 is 5V+ (red)
Pin: 5 is GND (black)
Works like a charm.......
becosemsaida
Cool mod! Does it affect the stylus operation though?
pboesboes said:
Cool mod! Does it affect the stylus operation though?
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yes it affects the stylus sometimes it reacts with delay and sometimes it clicks although only hovers over it
pboesboes said:
Cool mod! Does it affect the stylus operation though?
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I was not a big stylus user; I can't stand the input lag. I didn't notice a difference, but I always considered the input speed unacceptable. Not sure why there would be any difference, anyway.
My big problem that I've never taken the time to address is that after some time, it's as though I can't pull enough current through the wires to charge. One day I need to crack this open & figure out why.
gr8 n interesting post
wonder how fast can a full charge be completed
regards
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gr8 n interesting post
wonder how fast can a full charge be completed
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It is slower than normal, but completed in a night. I still have not dismantled my phone to attempt to repair this, but I want to soon
My KF has a hard time charging as the port has a loose fit on the charger adapter. I have to wiggle it just right for the charge indicator to come on. I'd like to remove the back so I can see why the charger plug does'nt fir right. Anyone have thier back off ? Thanks..
Nope. Sorry. Flashing a new ROM on it is one thing... but I find that when I take things apart and put them back together again I either have left over pieces or broken pieces.
I have seen a video of someone deconstructing the kindle fire with a seemingly universal tool for dealing with clips on youtube, you might want to search for it.
For what it's worth, my usb cable is loose while my power cable isn't. Not sure I like the micro-usb standard... seems a little flimsy.
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Nope. Sorry. Flashing a new ROM on it is one thing... but I find that when I take things apart and put them back together again I either have left over pieces or broken pieces.
I have seen a video of someone deconstructing the kindle fire with a seemingly universal tool for dealing with clips on youtube, you might want to search for it.
For what it's worth, my usb cable is loose while my power cable isn't. Not sure I like the micro-usb standard... seems a little flimsy.
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Flimsy, yes.. Thanks for your reply, sounds like me..LoL
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Amazon-Kindle-Fire-Teardown/7099/1
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My KF has a hard time charging as the port has a loose fit on the charger adapter. I have to wiggle it just right for the charge indicator to come on. I'd like to remove the back so I can see why the charger plug does'nt fir right. Anyone have thier back off ? Thanks..
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I know you probably don't want to hear this, but I'd send it back for and get it replaced. Taking off the back will almost definitely void your warranty, and unless you are REALLY good with a soldering iron, you probably won't be able to fix it.
I was having the same problem and thought it was the port but it's actually the cables. The prongs on the micro-USB cables that secure it in the port are rooted in the base of the plug. Bending the metal plug back to its original flat position will put the prongs in a more exposed position providing a more secure fit. Bending it past horizontal will expose them even more. I found that an up angle micro-USB cable fits in in an orientation that causes less stress on the plug and prevents this problem from reoccurring.
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I was having the same problem and thought it was the port but it's actually the cables. The prongs on the micro-USB cables that secure it in the port are rooted in the base of the plug. Bending the metal plug back to its original flat position will put the prongs in a more exposed position providing a more secure fit. Bending it past horizontal will expose them even more. I found that an up angle micro-USB cable fits in in an orientation that causes less stress on the plug and prevents this problem from reoccurring.
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You,Sir, are a genius ... thank you sooooo much,,
Has anyone noticed that their wireless charging orb is slipping?
The flatter the desk, the less it will slip. That desk is pretty flat. I wanted to keep the charger on another desk which has a slight incline, but after about 3-4 minutes, my Nexus 4 stops charging. And after another couple of minutes, it will actually fall onto the desk (and hopefully not on the floor). I even made sure there was no oils from my skin on the surfaces by cleaning them beforehand.
Pretty frustrating for a $60 charger. They really should have used magnets in this thing.
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Has anyone noticed that their wireless charging orb is slipping?
The flatter the desk, the less it will slip. That desk is pretty flat. I wanted to keep the charger on another desk which has a slight incline, but after about 3-4 minutes, my Nexus 4 stops charging. And after another couple of minutes, it will actually fall onto the desk (and hopefully not on the floor). I even made sure there was no oils from my skin on the surfaces by cleaning them beforehand.
Pretty frustrating for a $60 charger. They really should have used magnets in this thing.
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It has magnets on it....
There has to ALWAYS be someone with a problem with using the product wrong.
Just find a flat desk to put it on.
I dont know how yours is coming off, but mine lifts with the phone off the desk and i have to use two hands to separate it...
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It had magnets on it....
There has to ALWAYS be someone with a problem with using the product wrong.
Just find a flat desk to put it on.
I dont know how yours is coming off, but mine lifts with the phone off the desk and i have to use two hands to separate it...
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That is a flat desk, and it does not have magnets on it or in it.
Not sure why yours is slipping either...I actually find mine to be gripping too tightly
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That is a flat desk, and it does not have magnets on it or in it.
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Then my phone magically sticks to it and lifts a little when i try to take my phone off of it??
http://blogs.computerworld.com/android/21791/nexus-4-wireless-charger
It has magnets, just not your typical magnets where you would feel the force pulling you in.
I really dont know what to tell you. Contact Google for another one....because mine holds, no joke.
Hi quentin0,
I have the exact same issue you are having. I got my charger today. I used it at work for about an hour or 2 with no issues then took the charger home and now my phone will not stick to the charger.
After a minute to a minute and a half, the phone is on the night stand no longer charging... (slipped of the charger)
I've had so many issues with my phone which had to be replace 3 times that I am just returning the charger for a refund.
Needless to say that I will never buy LG again nor a "Nexus" branded device.
That's fairly amazing slippage. You should get an Ikea desk with adjustable legs for a special tilt. Is it humid in your location? I wonder what factors cause this because I've tried bumpers and cases and they all stick right on there perfectly.
Had mines on the charger for over an hour with different types of cases (nillkin, official bumper and no case) called phone numerous times and sent messages to see phone. Phone never moved.
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Then my phone magically sticks to it and lifts a little when i try to take my phone off of it??
http://blogs.computerworld.com/android/21791/nexus-4-wireless-charger
It has magnets, just not your typical magnets where you would feel the force pulling you in.
I really dont know what to tell you. Contact Google for another one....because mine holds, no joke.
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It does not have magnets. It uses that sticky silicon stuff on the inner ring to grip to the phone.
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It does not have magnets. It uses that sticky silicon stuff on the inner ring to grip to the phone.
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It uses that sticky silicon stuff in conjunction with magnets... that was confirmed by Google itself so get over it.
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It uses that sticky silicon stuff in conjunction with magnets... that was confirmed by Google itself so get over it.
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All of the sites are contradicting each other. Some say it's magnetized (Android Power), some that it's the tacky stuff (Android Central, Droid Life)
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It uses that sticky silicon stuff in conjunction with magnets... that was confirmed by Google itself so get over it.
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Maybe I should take a video of mine which does not stick at all.... There are absolutely no magnet in this and as nbell13 said, the silicon ring is what is supposed to hold the device just like a suction cup would stick to a piece of glass...
Did you just place the phone on the charger? What if you tried pushing the phone into the charger a bit instead of just placing it on there? The ring is rubber which would deform slightly if you have the phone on there and then apply pressure, and that deformation might act as a suction cup which would give you better grip. I don't have the charger so I can't test this, but for anyone who does can you try this and see if it's any harder to remove (indicating a better grip and less slipping) compared to just placing the phone on the charger?
That's really strange. I got mine today and it holds the phone very well on my nightstand. In fact, I was surprised how well. I also have an Energizer wireless charger that I used on the same nightstand and if I don't use a case, the phone slips right off. I suggest returning it for another one.
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That's really strange. I got mine today and it holds the phone very well on my nightstand. In fact, I was surprised how well. I also have an Energizer wireless charger that I used on the same nightstand and if I don't use a case, the phone slips right off. I suggest returning it for another one.
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I have the LG, Energizer, and now the orb. Best bang for the buck, IMO is the LG charger. Looks cleaner but doesn't angle the phone without being creative like using a tablet stand to hold the LG charger and then the phone will just lay on top of it vertically.
However, having the orb, it does look cool on my desk. The footprint of the orb is really small compared to the LG. For now my LG is at home on the nightstand, the poor Energizer is now stowed away for travel and the Orb is sitting on my desk at work. And for the Energizer, a naked Nexus 4 will def slip off because of it's smooth surface. It literally hydroplanes off the charger. And the Energizer is angled downward as well so having a case or even a back protector will be a must when using the Energizer charger.
Does my orb slip? No. Sux that others have that issue. Not sure why.
Mine is also slipping. I think the magnet is not strong enough on my orb
Why are you placing the phone so high on the charger? Of course it will slide down sitting that high up, you should align the wireless charger with the center of the back on the phone where the wireless charging is. Make a video with your phone sideways and centered on the charger I bet it won't slip.
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XxSilent22xX said:
Why are you placing the phone so high on the charger? Of course it will slide down sitting that high up, you should align the wireless charger with the center of the back on the phone where the wireless charging is. Make a video with your phone sideways and centered on the charger I bet it won't slip.
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I don't understand this either. I will say, mine stick, and doesn't slip, but u don't have to put it on the orb that high. Just tested min, and I can put it on the orb, with the bottom of the phone touching the desk, and it continues to charge. I would think this would stop ur sliding. I would still get urs replaced. Along with being sticky, I can feel a slight pull of magnets on mine... Could this be related to phone hardware revision? mines rev 11. I think I read only 11, and 12 are qi certified? Anyone confirm this?
If the phone is charging there will be a slight magnetic attraction, regardless of whether or not there are magnets in the orb or the nexus. When a device is inductively charged there will be a magnetic force between the two coils.
canecbr600 said:
I don't understand this either. I will say, mine stick, and doesn't slip, but u don't have to put it on the orb that high. Just tested min, and I can put it on the orb, with the bottom of the phone touching the desk, and it continues to charge. I would think this would stop ur sliding. I would still get urs replaced. Along with being sticky, I can feel a slight pull of magnets on mine... Could this be related to phone hardware revision? mines rev 11. I think I read only 11, and 12 are qi certified? Anyone confirm this?
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uh that's not true. All Nexus 4s are the same. They're not going to make ones with and without wireless charging.
I have seen a few post showing that people are noticing their power port on the phone is loose or wiggles, can those of you with an S4 check to see if this is the case or is the connecting good?
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I have seen a few post showing that people are noticing their power port on the phone is loose or wiggles, can those of you with an S4 check to see if this is the case or is the connecting good?
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Mine wiggles. I even took it to the store and the demo ones all did it. Funny thing is, it only seems severe with the white cable the phone came with. I have a black micro and it seems very snug. I just might use that.
The white one, when plugged in wiggles back and fourth and up and down. The port itself is a tad loose but when 4 of the demo ones at the store wiggled I had a piece of mind.
It's normal. Some people won't even notice it and will say theirs is fine, when in reality it does wiggle. Charges perfectly fine.
also remember there are clips on the cable itself, those start to loose their 'tightness' as well and can be responsible for the loose feeling. I've recently purchased some monoprice cables and fit very sung, but in about a year or so, this port will loosen up, which is hands down one of the biggest adv over the one, we can replace this port when it does go.
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also remember there are clips on the cable itself, those start to loose their 'tightness' as well and can be responsible for the loose feeling. I've recently purchased some monoprice cables and fit very sung, but in about a year or so, this port will loosen up, which is hands down one of the biggest adv over the one, we can replace this port when it does go.
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But this is a NEW device how can it already become loose.
my point was simply that it's not always the port, it often times can be the cables. if you have a brand new cable and port, i would expect it to be tight, but if the cable is not known/designed to be tight, it might not be the port. I'm using brand new monoprice cales, not the supplied white one, and i'm finding that while there is a little leeway in the base of the connection (which is a good thing) the cable is well secured in the port, meaning it's strength to pull it out/push it in, that should be your judge of port connection, not the wabble in the base. The wobble in the base is actually a good thing, it's not frequent your phone is on a flat surface while charging, and often times the cord is pulling off the side of a table or counter top, this creates pressure in the port. if you've taken physics you understand the concept of levels and mechanical advantage. by giving it a bit of leeway, it lowers the point of lever, and creating less stress on the internals of the port compared to one that has a very snug fit. the only time i would be concerned about the loose port is when it's becoming easier to pull it in/take it out (like throwing a hot dog down a bowling alley
Mine is very solid