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If you listen to MP3s on your Wizard, please come on in!

Hi guys!
I am thinking of investing a few dollars in a 2.5" to 3.5" plug (I think I found a good one) and I want to start plugging in my Wizard to my portable stereo.
This way I can listen to playlists by the pool, in hotel rooms, etc.
I was wondering if you guys have any advice or words of wisdom?
Are you happy with Windows Media Player?
Can it use playlists created in WMP from the Windows XP edition?
Sound quality okay?
Does the machine freeze at all?
I reallllly don't want to buy an iPod, so instead of experimenting, I figured I would ask you guys for your opinions on the matter.
In terms of the plug adapter, I know there are other threads about this. I am looking at the one at Pocket PC Techs.
I wonder if any other media player app allow cross-fading between tracks. I don't think the WMP does.
I look forward to any advice/comments/ideas before I get started!
Thanks!
Mike

Mort player
I use Mort Player and it works well. It is freeware which is a bonus. I splashed out a whole 79p (That's 79 whole English pence) on an adaptor and the sound through my Creative headphones is great. I only use it as a back up for my mp3 anyway but it works a treat.

use tcpmp instead-its got eq/pre amp etc and it plays more than just mp3/wma.
think I payed about 1.50 for my adaptor. I recommend Koss Sparkplug headfones, they sound excellent 8)

Thanks guys!~
And hey... those are some cheap adapters! I found ones that were more expensive.
Do you have any specific model numbers?
I heard that many make the sound in Mono, or don't work well with out four-pin out Wizards...
Thanks!!
Mike

2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor
The adaptor I purchased was very cheap (and some would say nasty) but it works well with a decent set of stereo headphones. Indeed I was surprised at the sound quality compared to the standard phones that come with the device.
The adaptor on the maplins site may be found:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/search.aspx...criteria=2.5mm Stereo Jacks&doy=8m8&worldid=3

I have also been using my pda as an mp3 player for a while now. I use it mostly for podcasts, I have two ways of using it.
1) I have an adaptor I bought from expansys about 2 years ago for my first PDA Phone, and it happens to work with each I have owned since. I listen in the car with a tape deck adaptor and also with headphones.
2) I use WM5 Storage and connect it to my work laptop using a spare USB cable. Using WMP on my work computer I listen as if it was just a spare drive in the system.

I got my adapter from a Hong Kong dealer via eBay and it's great. Proper 4-pole mini plug and it even includes a tie-clip microphone in-line so you can use it as a hands-free in the car or whereever. Works great, and seems well enough built for the price of about 90p plus £3.50 postage! I wish I'd got a couple more in the same package now, so I could have one connected to the home Hi-Fi, etc.
Wanna go splits on the postage on a few?
Andre

I shelled out about 70 USD for a Jabra BT stereo headset. Best ever investment I made. Although it's pretty big and more like the studio headphone the sound quality is really good. Plus I use my phone handsfree and I can pick up calls easy as the music pauses and resumes after the calls.
If you have the money, you should try it. It's liberating.

the 2 ways i listen to music is
1: at the gym with my jabra bt620 which i love because of the great quality and no wires and
2: at work with my music docking station from brando seen here
http://shop.brando.com.hk/imatekjammusicdock.php
cant go wrong for 35 bux shipped and the sound is great for the price and has volume control right on top. and it matches the wizard perfectly.
you can answer calls with it also. check it out.

I just went to the local electrostore and bought the adaptor for € 1.
I'm also using it in my car to listen to radiostations on the internet.
I'm using a cassettetape with a headjack on it, put that in the adapter....
Great sound on my carstereo!!!

Hey... there is some cool information in here.
Thanks guys!
I am checking out the sites now... I'll also take a walk over to the local electronics store or Radio Shack. Maybe a simple adapter will work for me...
If not, I'll order one!
And that i-mate K-JAM Music Dock looks neat! Are you SURE it's good with a Wizard? Is the bass decent? It's nice!!!!
Thanx!

WMP stinks for PodCasts, it never remembers where you left off when you previously listened. It is great however for A2DP.
I had bought the Logitech iPod wireless headset for my old iPod, and once I put A2DP on my MDA I paired the Logitech with it and presto, I had a great headset that worked in stereo with the MDA.
I use WMP when I need to be able to control the selections (next, previous, pause, play) with the headset. Otherwise I use TCPMP for listening in my car, since it will remember where I left off the last time I listened. I have a cable that plugs directly from my phone to the AUX input on my car stereo, and the sound is fabulous.
I would like to see someone (Microsoft, take a hint!) make a media player that puts bookmarks in songs so whenever you come back to that song/podcast you can have the choice to pickup where you left off, or start over from the beginning. With podcasts and audio books, I always want to pick up were I left off. This is where iPod kicks butt over everything else! And I miss that part of it. (my son needed my iPod more than I did to "fit in" with all the kids at school, so he has it now)
I highly recommend if you don't have A2DP yet to get it, either by downloading the A2DP cab file or upgrading your MDA to the AKU2 ROM that will have it. Then get yourself some A2DP capable headphones like the Motorola HT820 (I've heard good things about these) or the iCombi AH10 headset. Both will act as headphones as well as have the mic to talk when someone calls.
I tried Mort Player and was unimpressed with it, but give it a go, you can always uninstall it. Same with GSPlayer Beta for WM5.

WMP stinks for PodCasts, it never remembers where you left off when you previously listened. It is great however for A2DP.
I had bought the Logitech iPod wireless headset for my old iPod, and once I put A2DP on my MDA I paired the Logitech with it and presto, I had a great headset that worked in stereo with the MDA.
I use WMP when I need to be able to control the selections (next, previous, pause, play) with the headset. Otherwise I use TCPMP for listening in my car, since it will remember where I left off the last time I listened. I have a cable that plugs directly from my phone to the AUX input on my car stereo, and the sound is fabulous.
I would like to see someone (Microsoft, take a hint!) make a media player that puts bookmarks in songs so whenever you come back to that song/podcast you can have the choice to pickup where you left off, or start over from the beginning. With podcasts and audio books, I always want to pick up were I left off. This is where iPod kicks butt over everything else! And I miss that part of it. (my son needed my iPod more than I did to "fit in" with all the kids at school, so he has it now)
I highly recommend if you don't have A2DP yet to get it, either by downloading the A2DP cab file or upgrading your MDA to the AKU2 ROM that will have it. Then get yourself some A2DP capable headphones like the Motorola HT820 (I've heard good things about these) or the iCombi AH10 headset. Both will act as headphones as well as have the mic to talk when someone calls.
I tried Mort Player and was unimpressed with it, but give it a go, you can always uninstall it. Same with GSPlayer Beta for WM5.

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I highly recommend if you don't have A2DP yet to get it, either by downloading the A2DP cab file or upgrading your MDA to the AKU2 ROM that will have it. Then get yourself some A2DP capable headphones like the Motorola HT820 (I've heard good things about these) or the iCombi AH10 headset. Both will act as headphones as well as have the mic to talk when someone calls.
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Taking into consideration what I have below, which cab file should I use. I have a HT820 and am just chomping at the bit to get a2dp. Thanks.

A2DP and a bluetooth stereo headset is definitely the way forward! It's made my MP3 listening much more pleasurable than before when I used a 2.5 - 3.5mm jack and had to have my Wizard in cable length of my ears.
More expensive, but definitely the way to go.

MortPlayer + Car Screen Skin = Awesomeness.

I use PocketMusic, works a treat. The free version's okay, I tried the bundle and whilst some of the bits are good (the today-screen plugin) it wasn't enough to warrant paying for it. Main thing I like about it is that it looks good, and also can browse for choons directly from a network drive (which WMP, Mort and others didn't seem to be able to do).

Thanks for all the interesting info, guys.
I am excited to go look for a 2.5" -> 3.5" adapter that will work.
I actually had a dream last night (this morning) that I found an adapter and was impressed with the sound, having plugged it into a portable player.
(yeah, pretty sad that this is what I dream about.......!)
M

You need to get out more.
I got my adapter from eBay. Cost £2 IIRC.

Check out manyui on eBay. He sells adapters for tons of phones. I ordered one for my MDA from him and it works great.

Music quality: Can it replace a good mp3 player?

Any searches on audio quality return phone call quality.
What about the audio quality, judged against a stand-along mp3 player, using a good pair of headphones (e.g. Etymotic Research, Sennheiser 580's)?
(No comments about Bluetooth audio, please. The current choices aren't anywhere near the two phones listed above...)
Is the output powerful enough? Flat frequency response? Low noise?
I was hoping that, with an 8525 + 4GB microSD, I could dump my current phone AND my flash mp3 player...

What sounds good to you for a MP3 player? There is no way any phone in the market can sound as good as a standalone player.

Why not? It all depends on the choice of components. I can imagine that the analogue-to-digital convertor chip in the Hermes is better than that in many cheap and regular standalone mp3 players.
You have to test to make sure though, and then there's personal preference...

check SONY ERICSSON W800i
check SONY ERICSSON W800i

i think all mp3 players are just like the built in mp3 players on your phone. I'm using my xda trion with logitech headphones and the bass and audio is thumping man! I swear, i see no difference from my friend's ipod video, my logitech earphones give me all the bass and treble and whatever else u can think off, it's awesome! depending on the mp3 (quality etc), when i listen to really good downloaded songs, i feel like i'm hearing it live! it's a matter of earphones/headphones man! whatever ur mp3/ipod/whatever is, if they got crappy earphones/headphones, u'll get crappy sound, if u use ur hermes with good quality earphones/headphones, i swear u'll enjoy ur audio experience

Good application to use
A good application to use is pocket player by conduits. Costs a couple of bucks off handango, but with the skin of version 2.8(available on their sight) it is soooo easy to use. I can use it with out a stylus. You can't listen to more than 100 mp3s in a week. Sure you probably won't be able to store your entire library on the pda, but it is so convienient. Plus, if you have a pda/phone, you won't miss a call at the gym!
Check out conduits pocket player though... make sure to get the skin of version 2.8 or 2.0 on their website.

Short answer.. No
I have a few different sets of decent headphones (Shure e2c and e3c, and Grado's SR80's) and the phone doesn't sound anywhere near as good as my iRiver.

I use my Jasjam as my music player and I find it great. When a call comes in the music pauses and then when your done it starts no stopping you MP3 player then answering your phone all just one simple operation. I find it great!

i also picked up the 8525 after my dell jukebox's headset jack started having problems and causing undesireable amounts of static. loved that player, had it for many years, replaced HD to give it a few more gigs of space, and i have absolutely no complaints about the 8525 as an mp3 player. i use headphones all the time and i havent had any problems with it.
the phone slows down a little bit when using BT and windows media, but a lot of the time i'll use the standard headphones and it runs fine. its real nice to be able to have the music pause automatically so you can take a call
4gig isnt as much as a lot of mp3 players, ie i used to have a 20g, but as long as your a little more selective in your songs you can still virtually have an endless supply of music (ie picking the songs you really like instead of just droppin full albums into it)

Car Bluetooth Overhaul

So I love my incredible...best phone ever...haha. Which is why I'm making all these changes to accommodate it!
I was playing with it yesterday, and I ran pandora and navigation at the same time- during which, I called myself, and the phone call went thru. No freezes, no glitches, nothing. So Instead of just having cords galore when plugging into my car. Can I just buy a bluetooth cardeck and sync it with my phone and go from there?
Has/Is anyone doing this now? Advice is always appreciated- Thanks in advance!

I have a PIONEER FH-P800BT and its great. Bluetooth works great for calls and A2DP streaming. When streaming audio alerts come through also, so you may want to pick some that arent too obnoxious. Ipod controls work pretty well too if your into that sort of thing.

I use a bt stereo too. It works awesome. People can here me well and I stream music all the time. As soon as proclip comes out with the Incredible device holder, I'll be all set. I use a JVC KD-BT1 head unit.

I am using a Kenwood BT200 and I also seem to have no issues with music and phone calls

I don't have my Incredible just yet but I've been using a Motorola T505 Bluetooth in my car since before I got my G1 and haven't had any issues with it. Had it about two years now. It has a built-in FM Transmitter so I'll listen to Pandora or my own music through my car stereo even when people call me I'll hear it through the speakers. No one ever reported not being able to hear me clearly when using it.

I was thinking about this some more and the more I think about it, the more I don't think Pandora will play via bluetooth. You will definitely be able to play from your library

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I was thinking about this some more and the more I think about it, the more I don't think Pandora will play via bluetooth. You will definitely be able to play from your library
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I am pretty sure you can play Pandora via bluetooth.

rkaplins said:
I am pretty sure you can play Pandora via bluetooth.
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Yep, pandaora and slacker work via a2dp

Yes. I have DUAL head unit and works fine with A2DP BlueTooth with my Incredible and yes Pandora plays thru A2DP with no problem. So, go ahead and do what ever U R thinking of doing.

awesomee..thanks everyone..so i really just need to find a unit that has A2DP..cool. I was wondering what the difference between call placing and audio streaming in terms of bluetoothin' !!

I just ordered a Motorola T605 for my car (2001 RX300 without nav) and a Parrot MKi9000 for my wife's car (2006 saturn ion). I would have prefered to get the moto for both (since it's $100 cheaper), but her radio doesn't have a mute switch and probably would have been harder to install. I'm going to do the install in the coming weeks myself.

Kenwood DNX6140 BT setup works great
I have the kenwood unit in my Trailblazer EXT and got the car bracket at VZW store. The suction cup places the phone way out of convient reach any way you try so I use the holster part with a vent clip that I had from another mount from an XM unit I tossed in favor of Pandora. Nav, Pandora, anything else runs fast and flawlessly, phone calls great.

theformula said:
I have a PIONEER FH-P800BT and its great. Bluetooth works great for calls and A2DP streaming. When streaming audio alerts come through also, so you may want to pick some that arent too obnoxious. Ipod controls work pretty well too if your into that sort of thing.
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I have almost the exact same head unit. Works pretty well, I reviewed it here:
FH-P8000BT Review

Bluetooth AVRCP Being Ignored

I bought a bluetooth car kit to play music with. When I first paired the device to my phone, all 3 the media buttons worked (play/pause, forward, and back). The next time I used the kit only the play/pause button worked.
Knowing Samsung sucks at everything, I didn't waste my time disconnecting/reconnecting. I plugged the phone into the ADB interface and watched the system log in DDMS. What I found was really confusing.
I plugged the bluetooth kit into a 12v source and connected the 2 devices. I played some music off my phone and watched the log as I presses some buttons. In the log, the button presses were actually showing up in the log with the right scan numbers but the media player just doesn't respond to anything other than play/pause.
If I try different combinations of connecting/disconnecting I can get the media buttons to work but 90% of the time they wont. WTF is happening T_T

I have not had that trouble with my bluetooth head unit. I have been using Pandora and Mixzing. I only have issues with audio dropout and it seems to disappear (stop dropping) after the connection has been used for maybe 10-15 minutes.

It worked perfectly with my Samsung Omnia.

I found out that the bluetooth controls only work when the media app is in the foreground. If I'm on the home screen the controls will be ignored. If I have pandora open on the screen, pandora will be controlled.
This is annoying and I wonder why nobody else is having this problem.

I understand your frustration. And if I may, I would like to add this question:
Does anyone have a handle on the interrelationship between the Epic 4G, wireless headsets, and AVRCP music players?
My rooted Samsung Epic 4G is running 2.1 and has the stock ROM.
I’m looking for a compatible MP3/Wireless headset combination using either the Motorola S9-DH or S10-DH, or the Rocketfish RF-MAB2. So far, I am unable to do everything the headsets say I should be able to do, that is, answering a call and having the player resume (both headsets get this far) and also controlling the MP3 player, i.e., allowing for track skipping, pausing, etc.
In short, I do not have control over an MP3 player’s basic functions from a wireless headset.
I have tried both the Motorola and the Rocketfish. While the Motorola does not see an MP3 player at all, the Rocketfish does control an MP3 player’s volume level.
The following MP3 players were tried: stock Epic player, Winamp, PowerAMP and MortPlayer Audio.
I am open to suggestions. I am not wed to the Motorola or Rocketfish, but I am comfortable with the way they sound and fit.
OR...would you buy the headset you like, work the MP3 player manually (not a good idea while driving) and tough it out until Froyo addresses the issue of Bluetooth connectivity?
Thank you.

Bluetooth Speakers

Hi,
I am trying to be clever and play music in two rooms at once. I assumed that if I bought a bluetooth receiver (Belkin Music Receiver) then that would be a good cheap way of doing it but it seems that I can only have one room going at a time.
Setup is
Room 1 - Xoom in the speaker doc in my kitchen
Room 2 - bluetooth receiver into my surround sound
They both work well but don't play at the same time together - help!!
Dom

Bump - still no joy on this, any ideas?
Dom

That's just the way ot works
That's just the way bluetooth works. Picture having a bluerooth headset on and your conversation blasting away for all to hear.

I do not think that you can do that. It will only choose one way to play music at a time. You need to output the music and split it outside the device.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA App