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Ok so I just got the evo and I'm I. Love I had a moment b4 this and the the pre and the moment was very disappointing but the evo defined did the trick for Mr any way I'm very new to this whole rooting and hacking so I don't kno to much info or where to go get the info I was wonder if there there was a way I could use the hotspot feature without paying 29.99 so if anyone has any info or can point me in the right direction that would be great thanks in advance
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You would need to root your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/Guides_&_Tutorials
Please read up on it before you actually do it. Read the stickies at the top of each forum.
I did this literally 5 minutes ago. I have all the recent updates, and used unrevoked.
http://unrevoked.com/recovery/
The whole process took less than 5 minutes.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
Download that .apk, install and boom.
Thanks for the info fmedina2, im new to the evo and everything 2, but since the link is currently not working. If I root my phone is there a possibility my phone could break or not work properly?
Sprint really doesn't bust users for pulling down hotspot quantity data-activity without paying the $30/mo Mobile Hotspot fee ?
I put 2.1 back on my friend's phone. Now he gets to use the sprint hotspot for free. For some reason he doesn't like free tether, but I do.
IFMISM said:
I put 2.1 back on my friend's phone. Now he gets to use the sprint hotspot for free. For some reason he doesn't like free tether, but I do.
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If you root then apply Calkulin's usb tether fix, it will also make the native Hotspot app work. The fix disables authentification for both wired and wireless tethering.
Personally, I think that the way these phones hog data out of the box that it would be hard for sprint accuse you of unauthrized tethering unless you were doing something like using the phone as your primary internrt connection.
I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.
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I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.
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This. I pushed upwards of 11GB worth of data in m first month with no hassle.
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I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.
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This. I pushed upwards of 11GB worth of data in m first month with no hassle.
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Please, stop. You people are why we're going to lose unlimited bandwidth.
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Please, stop. You people are why we're going to lose unlimited bandwidth.
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You're absolutely right. I'm rooted, and CAN tether for free, but I pay the $29.99 anyway because it's the right thing to do. If you are using it for a lot of data (your main connection), you should pay for it.
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I cancelled my comcast as soon as I got my evo. I've used it for XBOX live, webbrowsing during the day and leave it on to torrent over night. Sprint hasn't said anything to me.
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if you do ghetto things like that, you'll live just that kind of life.
good luck with that...
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This. I pushed upwards of 11GB worth of data in m first month with no hassle.
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Get ready for tiered data plans.
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Hahaha you should pay for it? Why because they tell you too? Hey simple man root your phone thru unrevoked(easy as hell) then use pdanet or caulkins method or flash a rom that has it already integrated.
Hey your paying an extra $10 for extra bandwith so use it. Why pay $40 more now to stream on your phone..hey AT&T is 15 a month for dsl a year...so it may be right but it ain't smart..... Also I believe unlimited bandwith is for aircards and not for wireless. There is a thread discussing that. At the end of the day too each his own....
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P.S. I don't abuse or really use tethering but I don't see the problem. I don't use 90% of the internet based stuff on my phone but I pay the $10 and don't complain...
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Please, stop. You people are why we're going to lose unlimited bandwidth[/url].
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Get ready for tiered data plans.
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The reason I came to Sprint is because they allow it, and every rep I've talked to knows this. What good is the ability to push unlimited data (which, please, most people here can burn 11GB in a day, let alone a month) if you're morally restricted to limiting yourself to the competition's tiers anyways? Sprint's angle against the Big Two has been unlimited data for a long time now, and they're not going to switch it. If they do, I can promise you that the reason is NOT some guy using PDANet and watching a lot of streaming football while he's at work.
My 2 cents: our ten dollar a month 4g fee....covers truly unlimited data, at least that's how sprint justifies it. Even though I have used upwards of 9 gigs without ever touching tether. 10 or 15 is not that bad, imo.tiered plans are a scare tactic . Att feels the pain of that already. Hardcore users have started jumping ship now that they realize 2 gigs is nothing the more they use their phones.
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My 2 cents: our ten dollar a month 4g fee....covers truly unlimited data, at least that's how sprint justifies it. Even though I have used upwards of 9 gigs without ever touching tether. 10 or 15 is not that bad, imo.tiered plans are a scare tactic . Att feels the pain of that already. Hardcore users have started jumping ship now that they realize 2 gigs is nothing the more they use their phones.
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You're right in that 2GB really is nothing nowadays. Sprint offers On Demand television, live sporting events, and devices with screens big enough to actually utilize these things; and when Netflix comes to Android, do they really think users will stay within 2-5GB?
Even without Netflix or tethering, Evo can burn through caps like noone's business on push alone. The phone was built and marketed as a multimedia powerhouse - stream HD, refresh your FriendStream every 15 minutes, push the news, get your email, upload huge photos from your 8MP cam, all within a few swipes.
It makes sense for Sprint to cap the non-premium data users, and just use that as an incentive to make $10/mo from that many more customers. But seriously, companies really should start focusing on making the network's capacities better - not limiting the consumer.
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I second that!!
We aren't losing unlimited bandwidth. We pay extra for not having 4G in our areas aka a 'richer data experience'.
This is that richer data experience. Tether it up.
Anyone have any information if At&t will consider the dock a tethered device and want the $60/month data plan?
I'm pretty sure the laptop dock is an empty shell, it uses the phone's internet connection (3G/4G or Wifi) just as it uses the phone's CPU, RAM and storage. It simply adds keyboard, touchpad and screen (and battery/charger) in a laptop format, through the dock.
Right, when your phone is docked it is still acting as a phone (but a crazy powerful one) - not providing data for another device, so this is not tethering.
hopefully at&t will interpret it that way
fingers crossed!
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hopefully at&t will interpret it that way
fingers crossed!
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They can't see any other way. The phone is the device, just with screen and keyboard. Now you can tether other devices regardless of the mode the phone is in. That they will charge you for.
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I had pondered this very same question. It obviously isn't tethering but when it comes to AT&T, I wouldn't doubt for a single second, that they would "re-classify" their tethering. I don't trust them at all on this one.
Wow, from what I read, AT&T seems truly evil! Glad we don't have them around... And isn't it ATT that denies installation from non-market .apk? That's crazy...
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hopefully at&t will interpret it that way
fingers crossed!
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There will be no extra cost to use the laptop dock other than the price of the dock.
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There will be no extra cost to use the laptop dock other than the price of the dock.
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How do you know this? Source? If that's true, I can't hardly wait to get my hands on it!
Think of it this way:
Would AT&T charge a tethering fee to put your Atrix in the multimedia dock? All that is, is a display output and USB port, which you can use to plug in a keyboard and mouse, etc. The answer is no, AT&T would not charge a tethering fee for that.
Well, the laptop dock is just a display and a keyboard/mouse. When you use it, your phone is not providing data for any other device. That is not tethering and AT&T would not charge a tethering fee for that.
Honestly I'm surprised people are even asking this question.
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Think of it this way:
Would AT&T charge a tethering fee to put your Atrix in the multimedia dock? All that is, is a display output and USB port, which you can use to plug in a keyboard and mouse, etc. The answer is no, AT&T would not charge a tethering fee for that.
Well, the laptop dock is just a display and a keyboard/mouse. When you use it, your phone is not providing data for any other device. That is not tethering and AT&T would not charge a tethering fee for that.
Honestly I'm surprised people are even asking this question.
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I only say this because I don't trust AT&T at all, not one bit. They "re-classified" my Nexus One a while ago and stripped me of my unlimited plan. They pushed me onto their 2gb plan and no matter how many people I talked to, I couldn't get my old plan back. I just wouldn't put it past them to "re-classify" tethering as well. They're the devil!
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I only say this because I don't trust AT&T at all, not one bit. They "re-classified" my Nexus One a while ago and stripped me of my unlimited plan. They pushed me onto their 2gb plan and no matter how many people I talked to, I couldn't get my old plan back. I just wouldn't put it past them to "re-classify" tethering as well. They're the devil!
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Exactly. I hope they don't get a mind to do something like Sprint did when the EVO came out and tack on a mandatory $10 "because we can" fee.
I just think that at&t will say that the phone while in the dock represents the same increased data usage as seen with tethering either via a usb dongle or thru a phones data connection
they should allow it for free but most people would still be on a 2gb cap...and for the extra $20 (assuming they don't want the full $60 they charge on aircards) people could get 5gb a month..
nevertheless it is a new phone with a new feature and I still think they will add the cool tax to it.
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I just think that at&t will say that the phone while in the dock represents the same increased data usage as seen with tethering either via a usb dongle or thru a phones data connection
they should allow it for free but most people would still be on a 2gb cap...and for the extra $20 (assuming they don't want the full $60 they charge on aircards) people could get 5gb a month..
nevertheless it is a new phone with a new feature and I still think they will add the cool tax to it.
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I thought this exact same question.
But think about it more deeply, and it's more obvious that ATT will NOT be charging extra. Why would anyone buy the laptop dock only to be having their data plan changed.
You buy the phone for the docks, ATT will get money that way. Putting the phone in the dock is not even classified as tethering.
Tethering is when you have your phone linked to another fully functioning device that can run on its own, and uses your phones internet. The dock? Well.. it's just a dock.
Also, I'm sure, regardless of ATTs schemes in the past, adding the laptop dock will not cause you have to have upgrade your plan to tethering. Think about how the ad would be. *INTRODUCING ATRIX 4G DOCK..... tethering data plan required.* Outrageous ad IMO, many people will frown and be turned off by that.
If I were to get the Atrix 4g, I sure as hell am not allowing them to touch my grandfather unlimited data plan.
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If I were to get the Atrix 4g, I sure as hell am not allowing them to touch my grandfather unlimited data plan.
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QFT.
I got feature flipped years ago, and lost my MEW1. Never again. If I upgrade, I let them know that I'm not authorizing any changes to the account AT ALL. AT&T, to me at least, has acknowledged the vast screwing that customers have received, as now the receipts print out what changes, if any, have taken place on the account, as far as the rate plan, data plans, etc. I absolutely REFUSE to have my uncapped plan changed.
I am confused why anyone would think adding a screen/keyboard to your phone would be classified as tethering. Do they really not realize that the dock is just a screen/keyboard? It's not even called a "laptop" dock. It's called a webtop.
Personnaly, I'd close this thread. It's not tethering, and that's all there is to it, no?
This is At&t we are talking about.
They could go both ways...
not closing thread, just trying to spark some discussion about this topic, especially since this type of device and accessory combo will only become more common
the final result is not known and with this tid bit i just found
http://www.dailytech.com/ATT+Stops+...a+Allowance+to+4GB+on+Feb+13/article20816.htm
why would they make this change on feb 13......for the atrix.
Looks like we might have an answer, and it's not very pretty.
The first combines ATRIX 4G and the Motorola Laptop Dock for a promotional price of $499.99 after a two-year service contract and $100 mail-in-rebate after subscription to Data Pro smartphone data plan and tethering add on.
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Sounds like they are going to make you get the tethering plan for the dock, no?
I am sure not going to do that.
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...ailable-for-preorder-on-feb-13-115191644.html
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-a...available-march-6-or-earlier-pre-order-feb-13
- The phone itself will cost $199 after rebate and two-year contract.
- Presales start Feb. 13, the phone will be available March 6 "or earlier."
- You have to have a minimum data service that costs $15 a month.
- The Atrix and Laptop Dock can be purchased as a package for $499.99 -- after contract and a $100 rebate.
- There's also an Entertainment Access Kit -- with the HD Multimedia Dock, a Blueooth keyboard and mouse, and remote control. That costs $199.
- The Laptop dock by itself costs $499.99. (Better to buy it with the phone.)
So, On contract, it's going to be $199. If you want the Laptop Dock, you can get the Bundle at $499. AFTER rebate, and you MUST have the tethering plan.
Sorry, but NO sale. Requiring the tethering plan is ludicrous, and $499 for the laptop dock? I REALLY wanted this phone and the Laptop dock, but these prices are stupid.
edit: Official News Release: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...ailable-for-preorder-on-feb-13-115191644.html
So ****ing stupid.....at&t just killed all the hype surrounding this and i'm sure they lost a huge portion of sales from people that were so amped for this....
Anyone else a little mad that att would take such an amazing and exciting device and just **** it all up? I was SO excited for this. Now, because they cant be reasonable, I gotta settle for something else. REALLY ATT? You're asking too much for the kit but I would have paid it if not for the ridiculous tethering requirement. Can someone justify this? Please? I'd love to see them try
i probably would have also paid the $499.....but requiring tethering makes this a definite no for me...
I'm pretty sure that I will now not be getting this phone, and most likely will be leaving AT&T. My contract has been up for some time, I was looking forward to upgrading to the Atrix. Forcing the tethering plan for a non-tethered device killed it for me, as well as the ludicrous pricing but I could have dealt with the pricing. Too bad AT&T really screwed this up, I was looking forward to this and was convinced to buy it up until now.
...Next.
I'm still going preorder one. Was hoping to get a dock but for those prices its phone only for me.
I'll just use the hdmi mirroring. If anything its gotta be better than the captivate
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Anyone else a little mad that att would take such an amazing and exciting device and just **** it all up? I was SO excited for this. Now, because they cant be reasonable, I gotta settle for something else. REALLY ATT? You're asking too much for the kit but I would have paid it if not for the ridiculous tethering requirement. Can someone justify this? Please? I'd love to see them try
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I'm livid at their pricing model. I can see the phone being $199, I'm ok with that. I was planning on getting the Laptop Dock instead of a NetBook. I was only going to use it via WiFi. But now, I'll have to buy it for $499? AND I'm required to get the most expensive Data plan AND tethering? Uhm, no. Sorry, you can eat it AT&T..
This product is really a game changer, and they had a great opportunity to come out strong with this type of convergence device and make it popular. Now? It will be hyped up, no one will but it, and it will fade into existence.
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I'm livid at their pricing model. I can see the phone being $199, I'm ok with that. I was planning on getting the Laptop Dock instead of a NetBook. I was only going to use it via WiFi. But now, I'll have to buy it for $499? AND I'm required to get the most expensive Data plan AND tethering? Uhm, no. Sorry, you can eat it AT&T..
This product is really a game changer, and they had a great opportunity to come out strong with this type of convergence device and make it popular. Now? It will be hyped up, no one will but it, and it will fade into existence.
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Tethering killed the deal for me too. ATT blew it
Yes I just saw that. Att can gtfo; I am definitely not getting this phone.
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I'm pretty sure that I will now not be getting this phone, and most likely will be leaving AT&T. My contract has been up for some time, I was looking forward to upgrading to the Atrix. Forcing the tethering plan for a non-tethered device killed it for me, as well as the ludicrous pricing but I could have dealt with the pricing. Too bad AT&T really screwed this up, I was looking forward to this and was convinced to buy it up until now.
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This is me exactly. I have been on AT&T since 2000 (well, the name has changed a few times) but this is unacceptable, I wanted the Atrix so badly and I am so angry that they screwed it up like this.
Well my wife wanted a Verizon iPhone anyway.
Goodbye, AT&T!
I'm confused about the "tethering required" part. I'm seeing it kind of mentioned, but only with the dock? The webpage and quote #2 in the pr says the phone itself only requires the $15 data plan.
OMG.. $500 for a freakin laptop dock. That is insane. FU ATT. I was going to buy the atrix off contract to keep my plan. ATT rapes it's customers.
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I'm confused about the "tethering required" part. I'm seeing it kind of mentioned, but only with the dock? The webpage and quote #2 in the pr says the phone itself only requires the $15 data plan.
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We are all confused about the "tethering required".
AT&T NEEDS to look up the definition of device tethering. Wikipedia has one HERE. It is clearly connecting a computer to a mobile device in order to access the internet. The laptop dock can not be classified as a computer as it does not function without the phone being connected to it. If they say it is a computer, they need to look HERE for the definition of computer.
Too damn much, sorry. Their greed is going to kill this brilliant platform before it even gets off the ground.
I was willing to shell out $500, even if it meant pinching my nose and going with AT&T, but that extra tethering charge is complete bull****. Sorry AT&T, but no sale.
I wonder. What would happen if you plugged the phone into the dock and did NOT have the tethering plan? They specifically mentioned firefox needs it. is it possible another browser would work without tethering? Because if you lose the tethering I would be willing to spend $499 on the whole kit
Inspire for me!
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I wonder. What would happen if you plugged the phone into the dock and did NOT have the tethering plan? They specifically mentioned firefox needs it. is it possible another browser would work without tethering? Because if you lose the tethering I would be willing to spend $499 on the whole kit
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I was curious about this as well. Indeed if you buy the laptop dock from AT&T, to get the subsidized price you gotta get tethering. What if we obtain the dock through other channels and start using it. Also, beyond the laptop dock...You can use the webtop interface through the other dock and even without a dock i believe when hooked up properly...will those methods also require the tethering plan, I am assuming it would but how will they know if you are using it in that way?
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I was curious about this as well. Indeed if you buy the laptop dock from AT&T, to get the subsidized price you gotta get tethering. What if we obtain the dock through other channels and start using it. Also, beyond the laptop dock...You can use the webtop interface through the other dock and even without a dock i believe when hooked up properly...will those methods also require the tethering plan, I am assuming it would but how will they know if you are using it in that way?
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Well, they stripped out the native mobile hotspot. Maybe they've found a way to make Firefox not connect unless you have the tethering plan. Who knows?
Hopefully the laptop dock/webtop will still work on wifi if you don't have a tethering plan? I'll try to get the laptop shell elsewhere for cheaper.
Edit: but only if I can get it cheaper then a reasonable tablet. I'd rather have a tablet, so it has to be a lot cheaper
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Hopefully the laptop dock/webtop will still work on wifi if you don't have a tethering plan? I'll try to get the laptop shell elsewhere for cheaper.
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It could be the case that you can use it over wifi... the press release states
3. Laptop Dock - Firefox browser use with AT&T Mobile Broadband requires Tethering Plan.
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Only suggesting you need tethering with AT&T mobile broadband, not mentioning wifi. Still, not cool.
So I bought the unsubsidized version from Best buy today. I am an end user with slightly more than end user knowledge, however I am not a dev. This forum came up in many google searches, so I decided to make an account to ask this question among others I may have in the future, and possibly help others in need, or at least give my opinions to help the devs.
Anyway, my question now on the connectivity is, since i just spent 870 whatever dollars it came out to be, so i didn't have to lock into a 2 year contract, does this really mean I have to go give verizon (400$) because i have bad credit and they run a credit deal for a security deposit even if you're not signing the 2 year contract?
This has frustrated me. Because I bought it assuming (like an idiot) that i'd be able to link my Xoom with my (jailbroken) iphone's tether app, which creates an ad hoc connection and I guess can only connect to rooted android os's.
So basically I guess my question is whats the deal in buying the unsubsidized xoom, if i have to pay verizon 400 anyway? Is there any way around this?
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So basically I guess my question is whats the deal in buying the unsubsidized xoom, if i have to pay verizon 400 anyway? Is there any way around this?
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If you bought the device unsub, you do not need to pay a deposit as you will be on a month-to-month data-only service plan. If your local Verizon store insists you have to put down a deposit, ask for a manager or go to another store.
you can use bluetooth tethering if there is an app for your iphone (i dunno if there is, never had an iphone). It's supported out of the box with no mods. there is a helpful writeup about several things at the link below.
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ad hoc tethering
I have an Iphone with Mywi so I can use it as a hotspot. My Ipad and Macbook as well as my PC laptop recognizes it, but my Dell Streak with Android 2.2 and the Xoom can't see it. I was hoping Honeycomb would finally fix it, but no. I think there are hacks for rooted Androids but I'm not sure how easy they are or if they'd work on the Xoom.
A credit check and deposit - if one exists - should only come up when signing a contract.
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I have an Iphone with Mywi so I can use it as a hotspot. My Ipad and Macbook as well as my PC laptop recognizes it, but my Dell Streak with Android 2.2 and the Xoom can't see it. I was hoping Honeycomb would finally fix it, but no. I think there are hacks for rooted Androids but I'm not sure how easy they are or if they'd work on the Xoom.
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Doesn't your iPhone make an Ad-Hoc wifi tether rather than a true wifi tether? don't think the Xoom supports connection to it. 2 posts above you this is highlighted and the possible fix is a bluetooth tether.
thanks!
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If you bought the device unsub, you do not need to pay a deposit as you will be on a month-to-month data-only service plan. If your local Verizon store insists you have to put down a deposit, ask for a manager or go to another store.
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Unfortunately for the month to month they still do need to run a credit check and you will need a deposit if it returns with negetive results, the verizon rep. explained the Reson behind this as being so users don't sign up rack up data and bail on the bill. Apparently this month to monthplan will not stop you after your allotted data is used but charge you for any further data you exceed.
Fortunately I got this 400$ deposit dealt with because my gf has good credit. But for anyone out there thinking about purchasing a xoom, my first bill will come out to be 100$ (something the rep failed to mention before my xoom was activated) for the 35$ 3 gig plan. Ues that's over 60$ in activaion fees and surcharges. Also, though you are not in a 2 year contract if you decide to cancel your month to month plan for awhile, there is a15$ reconnect in fee to pay on top of the plan charge. So its not as nice as the ipad data that you can activate a single month of data right from the device and not be stuck with extra charges. But I am not complaining, despite a few glitches that I'm sure google will have fixed for us soon, I love my xoom.
But here is the price point for anyone considering one:
Device 800$ + 70$ in taxes where I'm from (.09%)
Screen protector: 25$
Basic gel case 20$
First month service: 100$ (for three gig plan)
For a total of 1,015$ I will spend on my xoom when my first month is up and ill have to pay that bill.
Which doesn't include a 60$ dock I'm looking to get. And you'll have to consider your credit for the securty deposit, if I didnt have my gf like mentioned earlier I'd have to add 400$ onto that total.
Hope this helps someone.
Maybe this helps?
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I have an Iphone with Mywi so I can use it as a hotspot. My Ipad and Macbook as well as my PC laptop recognizes it, but my Dell Streak with Android 2.2 and the Xoom can't see it. I was hoping Honeycomb would finally fix it, but no. I think there are hacks for rooted Androids but I'm not sure how easy they are or if they'd work on the Xoom.
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I had to run some adb commands to enable ad hoc hotspots for my Nook Color. The device has to be rooted, yes. After that it connected beautifully to my jailbroken iPhone 3Gs .
Maybe the adb commands are also valid for the Xoom with minor adjustments? Ad hoc fix
In the last few days Tmo has been redirecting me to buy that stupid hotspot service when i try to hot spot my work computer. I tried Clockworkmod's tether app, and got the same ****. Im in the process of downloading CM9's nightly, im hoping when i flash ill be back to getting what i pay for.
But if it doesnt, and since its a redirect i doubt flashing a rom will help, does anyone know how to get around it?
I dont understand why yu want to get it free. You are allowing your phone to give internet access to multiple devices thereby increasing bandwidth usage compared to how much youd overall use by accessing data services on your phone alone (hence throttling)Explain how it should be free?.
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You can get the five gigs plus tether for thirty bucks. Quit being cheap. Compared to other carriers we have it good.
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Having to work for tmobile is awesome . Having a dealer line and unlimited data access is amazing. I'm just happy
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I dont understand why yu want to get it free. You are allowing your phone to give internet access to multiple devices thereby increasing bandwidth usage compared to how much youd overall use by accessing data services on your phone alone (hence throttling)Explain how it should be free?.
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Im already paying for data plan permonth. I shouldnt have to pay for it twice. Having to pay for tethering is a straight up money grab, i dont care how cool Tmo is (and they are a great company), i dont think i should have to pay twice for the data im already using and paying for.
Oskiee said:
Im already paying for data plan permonth. I shouldnt have to pay for it twice. Having to pay for tethering is a straight up money grab, i dont care how cool Tmo is (and they are a great company), i dont think i should have to pay twice for the data im already using and paying for.
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So if you have 2 phones on your account you should only have to pay for data on one if them but get it on both? By your logic that would be the same thing...
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Data is data. Who cares, other than providers, where it's going?
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xsteven77x said:
You can get the five gigs plus tether for thirty bucks. Quit being cheap. Compared to other carriers we have it good.
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I tether fine with my 5gig data plan without getting any hotpost messages
On the 5GB and 10GB plans, you can get tethering for free. One of the things I love about Tmo.
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clninja said:
So if you have 2 phones on your account you should only have to pay for data on one if them but get it on both? By your logic that would be the same thing...
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If he has unlimited data yes. If a customer has a 2gb hspa+ and unlimited edge after, who cares whether it's his phone or comp using the data? Charging for tethering is just charging for the service not the data. And considering a simple free app can do that service why should he pay extra?
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Data is data. Ones and zeros are ones and zeros. Im paying for ones and zeros. Not to mention i rarely use tethering at all, i just want it handy for that "every once in a while." $15 a month doesnt constitute that. Nor does it constitute using one of them "shared" bull **** that is $15 a month just to enable my phone to do it and use up the same data pool. Its a money grab and i refuse to pay for it.
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Data is data. Who cares, other than providers, where it's going?
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This is right. You are already paying for your 2GBs, you should be able to use it as you want. Because at the end of the day, your going to get throttled once you hit your limit.
so even if your using just your phone, or a hotspot the data you use with the devices don't change.
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If I'm not browsing on my laptop then I'm just going to pick up my phone and do it that way. How does that allow me to use an unfair amount? Data limits are still in place on my "unlimited" line.
Oskiee said:
In the last few days Tmo has been redirecting me to buy that stupid hotspot service when i try to hot spot my work computer. I tried Clockworkmod's tether app, and got the same ****. Im in the process of downloading CM9's nightly, im hoping when i flash ill be back to getting what i pay for.
But if it doesnt, and since its a redirect i doubt flashing a rom will help, does anyone know how to get around it?
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T-Mobile didn't "figure you out" - most tethering is easily detectable. It's a matter of "does T-Mobile care enough to do anything about it?" ... Until recently, that answer was no.
The information to get around T-Mobile's tethering detection is available in this forum (read: search for it). I'll give you a hint: the user agent gives you away.
monkeypaws said:
I dont understand why yu want to get it free. You are allowing your phone to give internet access to multiple devices thereby increasing bandwidth usage compared to how much youd overall use by accessing data services on your phone alone (hence throttling)Explain how it should be free?.
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Do you own Tmobile stock?! What difference does it make? You know some of us are irritated that we are paying for unlimited data with at&t and we aren't able to tether our laptops every once in awhile. I have no need for tethering 95% of the time. But when I'm on the road and I need to check something on a flash website it is nice to be able to use my laptop. I shouldn't have to lose unlimited data AND have my data bill go up 66% just because I need to tether 15 times a year. You know if they said hey if you are going to be traveling pay us $5 and we will let you tether for a month I would say fine.
sitizenx said:
Do you own Tmobile stock?! What difference does it make? You know some of us are irritated that we are paying for unlimited data with at&t and we aren't able to tether our laptops every once in awhile. I have no need for tethering 95% of the time. But when I'm on the road and I need to check something on a flash website it is nice to be able to use my laptop. I shouldn't have to lose unlimited data AND have my data bill go up 66% just because I need to tether 15 times a year. You know if they said hey if you are going to be traveling pay us $5 and we will let you tether for a month I would say fine.
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I used to get the nasty emails from Ma Bell until I started using USB exclusively and Opera browser (uses a proxy). Ever since then, I've never gotten another one.
Seriously just pay for it with tmo.. Its like the people that pirate apk's... its a couple bucks for those and its like, why waste the time?
You "righteous" dudes are missing the point. I totally understand what the OP is saying. If I'm already paying for a certain amount of data, who gives a damn HOW it is used. In the end I'm STILL using the amount of data I paid for. Nothing more, nothing less. Charging for that is just like double billing in my opinion. These providers will do ANYTHING to milk more money out of the consumer.
Tmob is a business, not a non profit orginization. it's not like charging for the service is done just to "rob" consumers, if it wasn't for everyone expecting everything for free I think technological advancements would be in a completely different place. We only hinder ourselves with our sense of entitlement. I get the point of only tethering so often, but again, few ruin it for the many and use their phone as a modem for Netflix. Too bad it's in our nature to exploit everything. Just sayin
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Tmob is a business, not a non profit orginization. it's not like charging for the service is done just to "rob" consumers, if it wasn't for everyone expecting everything for free I think technological advancements would be in a completely different place. We only hinder ourselves with our sense of entitlement. I get the point of only tethering so often, but again, few ruin it for the many and use their phone as a modem for Netflix. Too bad it's in our nature to exploit everything. Just sayin
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I do not believe issues such as this to be an unwarranted sense of entitlement. I have been an "unlimited" data user at At&T since 2005 - back when tethering was included in data. It was so little an issue back then I once called AT&T to ask for help setting up my Blackberry 7100.
For me to continue using my phone to tether win I switched to an iPhone, they tried to upsell me to a tethering plan, and the same when I briefly used a focus. I told them then, and I will tell them now, that as long as the plan that we BOTH agreed to regarding my ToS say that tethering is indeed included in my data plan - its not an entitlement, it is a right protected by the contract I had to sign while buying my beloved 8125.
The OP's individual situation may be different than this - but in all reality, if there is no abuse of the data caps on the users end - charging extra for tethering is in really bad taste from any of the carriers. It is NOT a service that they provide - it's a well established feature withing operating systems of the phones they sell. If that is unacceptable to them, then stop selling smartphones and go back to series Nokia 6125's. Then offer the 3g/4g hotspots as their own service so there is no longer a redundancy between smartphones and hotspots. Charging for both is just plain stupid.
Especially if the data plan I pay for has more than covered the data I use. I tether my laptop and tablet once or twice a week, and have not come close to the 5GB "softcap". If I'm not going over my limit, Who the heck are you to tell me I'm abusing the network? Leave me alone and go bother the jerk who's torrenting 720p movies on Friday night.