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Anyone ditching there n1 for the new mytouch 4g? Would it be worth it to ditch the n1?
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Anyone ditching there n1 for the new mytouch 4g? Would it be worth it to ditch the n1?
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I don't even have an Nexus One and I don't think that's a good idea. I've seen the specs and I'm not that impressed.
No. Its all about personal preference, and I personally love my N1.
EarthsiegeTA said:
No. Its all about personal preference, and I personally love my N1.
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* 1Ghz Snapdragon MSM8255
* Android 2.2
* 5MP Camera
* Front Facing Camera
* 3.8” display
* 8GB microSD
* Comes in 4 different colors: Black, White, Plum and Red
It's good but I mean the N1 has all that besides maybe the front camera and a 3.7" display instead of 3.8" display. But like he said...it's all preference
Don't forget the newest Snapdragon and GPU and the 768MB memory and 4GB of ROM.
I love my N1, but this is pretty solid. Though I'm clinging on to my N1 until the Gingerbread update to see what it's all about. Then, as soon as the source code is released, I'll sell the N1 at an all time high on eBay to the desperate souls wanting a taste of Gingerbread.
Then hopefully use the money to help buy a MT4G outright and wait a few weeks for CM's Gingerbread since the source would have been released.
This is all contingent on the assumption that the MT4g doesn't have the rooting issues that is plaguing the G2, DHD, etc..
Edit: Also don't forget about the very fast HSPA+ (the reason we're even calling it the -4G)
Kind of ironic that the codename is glacier even though it's such a fast phone in almost every right lol
Unless you want a front-facing camera (and who really absolutely needs that?...), there's absolutely zero reason to switch.
Same performance; almost the exact same screen-size...
But then you get a crappy OS layer
Not as open
No custom ROMs yet
Slower OS updates
Hassle of switching
The ONLY reason I'd switch is to get a 4.3" screen or 3.7-4.2" screen with a higher resolution (a la the retina display), and of course faster processor/GPU.
It bothers me that every carrier in the US has a 4.0 or 4.3" (native-)Android phone except for T-Mobile. (HD2 is not native Android.)
Not worth it...do yourself a favor and keep the N1 for now (till the new year when a lot of new devices hit the market).
Thanks for all of your input...i really didt want to switch unless the phone blew my N1 out of the water...and im also on att and were i live tmobile kinda sux...thanks again...
Paul22000 said:
Unless you want a front-facing camera (and who really absolutely needs that?...), there's absolutely zero reason to switch.
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Really? I like my N1 but wouldn't mind having a better processor, better touch sensor, more responsive screen, better antenna, more RAM and a front facing camera.
I don't think people are doing their research, I love my N1 but I had this bad boy since January. The myTouch 4g is not the same with just a ffc and a 3.8" screen, It's BETTER!
I don't know I had my nexus since launch haven't seen anything yet to come close
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I think my next phone will be 4inch, new internals and google experience. Second cam would be fun, but I could live without.
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I'd wait. There's bound to be a more powerful Android phone released for the holidays. Maybe a stock 1.5GHz device. Try to wait until Dec. That's what I'm doing even though I'm ready to throw this G1 in front of a moving car.
I am thinking I will get the MT4G. My N1 has terrible reception at work while my coworkers with tmo have better signals. My screen locks up and I have to remove the battery at least once a day. I am out of space on my phone. I don't have many apps but I am out of space.
The phone will be rooted before long and there will be a custom ROM so I am not too worried about the custom interface.
I'm growing so bored of my N1. I want to want every new phone that comes out, but there's always ONE thing about a device that comes out that is just retarded and breaks the deal. Evo 4G; no GSM, SGS phones; bad GPS and no stock, G2; No permanent root or custom ROMS, same with the Desire HD and apparently this phone. It's getting pretty depressing.
I even wanted to go w the new WP7 phones, but the OS is useless to me with no voice or multitasking or C&P. Even though I think it looks great and has potential I'll have to wait til V2.0.
I really want a WebOS experience, but there is nothing compelling about the current hardware.
Long story short, this year is bull****. If you got a smartphone in 2010, just keep it because every phone is basically the same or you'd be giving one thing up for another. I suggest waiting til the new year after CES with better phones with better screens, gpu's and OS's and hardware. No compromises.
I've been thinking about this too. Really there is nothing about the phone making it much better than my N1. Wifi calling would be nice since my signal at home sucks but otherwise there isn't much more it offers over my N1.
Sure it has more internal memory but I've been using a2ext since my G1 so no issues with running out of memory or apps. Cell reception on my G1 was MUCH better and as annoying at it is when my N1 can't hold a signal nearly as well it's not a reason to jump ship to a comparable phone hardware wise and no guarantee of better signal strength.
I have the MIUI ROM which is quite simply blazing fast, no other ROM has even come close to speed.
Once a phone with a larger and better screen with more internal space and a much better processor comes out I will dump my N1.
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I've been thinking about this too. Really there is nothing about the phone making it much better than my N1. Wifi calling would be nice since my signal at home sucks but otherwise there isn't much more it offers over my N1.
Sure it has more internal memory but I've been using a2ext since my G1 so no issues with running out of memory or apps. Cell reception on my G1 was MUCH better and as annoying at it is when my N1 can't hold a signal nearly as well it's not a reason to jump ship to a comparable phone hardware wise and no guarantee of better signal strength.
I have the MIUI ROM which is quite simply blazing fast, no other ROM has even come close to speed.
Once a phone with a larger and better screen with more internal space and a much better processor comes out I will dump my N1.
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It IS a better processor than our Nexus Ones! Why does everyone assume that just because it's clocked the same, it's the same processor? This is a second generation Snapdragon on a 45nm architecture with an Adreno 205 GPU. The processor SMOKES ours.
That being said, I'm holding out till January... I want to see what, if anything, happens with the rumored new developer phone.
Paul22000 said:
Unless you want a front-facing camera (and who really absolutely needs that?...), there's absolutely zero reason to switch.
Same performance; almost the exact same screen-size...
But then you get a crappy OS layer
Not as open
No custom ROMs yet
Slower OS updates
Hassle of switching
The ONLY reason I'd switch is to get a 4.3" screen or 3.7-4.2" screen with a higher resolution (a la the retina display), and of course faster processor/GPU.
It bothers me that every carrier in the US has a 4.0 or 4.3" (native-)Android phone except for T-Mobile. (HD2 is not native Android.)
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I agree!!!
It seems to me that you have to pay extra to tether and use your phone as a wifi hotspot. With the n1, you can do it for free for now I am staying with my n1.
I had to pick one up. Im going to hang on to my n1. so far I think its awesome. at work I have absolutely no signal so the wifi calling is a plus. aswell as being able to video chat with yahoo messenger.
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Hey guys coming from and incredible and I love it but I have to switch to sprint and would like some input on these two phones. I know the general info so I was more looking for developer style info such as roms and speed with said roms and just general developer support.
Here is what I have so far.
Epic
Faster
Better Screen
Gorilla Glass
Better GPU
Same battery life
Slide out keyboard.
Bigger SD card included with phone. 16 vs 8
Evo
Bigger screen
Stand
HDMI out
Better Developer Support?
More Rom's
Better 3G 4G performance along with wifi hotspot active connections.
What am I missing for some reason I feel like I should go Evo even though its dated, the slide out keyboard isn't a must for me but I feel like it would be nice.
I hate the amoled screens personally. Looks to oversaturated imo. I don't like slide out keyboards either. Not saying the epic isn't a good phone as I've never owned one, but I wouldn't trade my evo for one. So my vote would be the evo.
Thanks I am kind of thinking the same thing the HTC phones are great and I have had really good luck with my incredible with roms. Does the TouchWiz samsung thing good or how does it compare to Sense?
I own and evo and my friend has the epic which I rooted and setup...... go with the EVO. It's simply better and the community support on XDA as least is better for the Evo.
Evo, but you wouldn't consider the Shift? Shift would be a better bet than the Epic. Slightly smaller screen, people are saying the keyboard is better though. Know you said that wasn't necessarily a deal breaker but worth a mention.
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I thought about the thunderbolt but its got no support we don't know if its rootable yet do we? I don't mind going with Verizon but I hear you can use verizon towers with sprint and its less money and has 4g.
I just switched from epic to evo and here's my deciding factors...
The slide keyboard makes the phone feel cheap overall. Others say its a general Samsung thing with cheap feeling phones but I prefer the weight and solidity of the evo. And I don't use the keyboard but for emulator gaming.
My eyes seem to take a liking to the evo screen more than samoled.
And the development seems to be way ahead of epic,granted time on market...
like someone already said, the shift seems like a good compromise of the two. i know it has an 800mhz processor as opposed the the 1ghz that the epic and evo both have. But its the same processor as the T-mobile G-2 and it is just as fast as my evo.
The Evo. I switched to the Epic a couple months ago from the Evo. I realized it was a bad choice in about 2 days. The keyboard on the phone won't get all the input that you type in. And I type fast, so this annoyed me greatly. Though, the camera on the Epic was better than the Evo's. But still, Evo > Epic. The Samsung UI is also kind of crappy. I love sense so much more, that is why I had to switch back to the Evo.
Ok well it seems like the epic is out as most people think other phones are better or suggest other phones all together.
Seagrizzly said:
Hey guys coming from and incredible and I love it but I have to switch to sprint and would like some input on these two phones. I know the general info so I was more looking for developer style info such as roms and speed with said roms and just general developer support.
Here is what I have so far.
Epic
Faster
Better Screen
Gorilla Glass
Better GPU
Same battery life
Slide out keyboard.
Bigger SD card included with phone. 16 vs 8
Evo
Bigger screen
Stand
HDMI out
Better Developer Support?
More Rom's
Better 3G 4G performance along with wifi hotspot active connections.
What am I missing for some reason I feel like I should go Evo even though its dated, the slide out keyboard isn't a must for me but I feel like it would be nice.
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what kinda of phone are you on now?? I know one could wait forever just waiting for the lastest and greatest are always around the corner. But seeing the phones coming out of CES now sprint should have some details about their next flagship phone for this summer at CTIA it might be just worth waiting
I have the incredible now and to tell you the truth it works great, just need a phone for private use and want to go with Sprint I won't be able to make it to the summer and really don't do much with my phone but email and some utilities like wifi stuff work typing things.
Evo all the way!!!!
Evo, the wife got an Epic even after I kept tellin her to get the Evo. More for the keyboard. Touchwiz sucks, can't believe it didn't even have a flip album like sense. Little things like that you take for granted. Hated how the keyboard would always slighty open while holding it with one hand. And to me the camera didn't work that well. She ended up gettin the Evo and me one to for Xmas Sprint employee.
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I have both, got my Evo on launch day, got my Epic a month or so ago. Needless to say I am using my Evo again. Epic is a great phone and a great performer but I enjoy the Evo more personally. You really need to use both and see which sticks out for you but I would go with the Evo....in fact, I did.
Definitely go evo. Much much better dev support and more importantly much better support from htc as opposed to the no updates from samsung.
EVO.. is best choice.. for me.
you ask in an evo subforum... get X answer
you ask in the epic subforum... get Y answer
this may not be a good way for you to help you make this choice.
it can all boil down to ...
HTC vs Samsung
htc wins .. silently brilliant
I was in the same boat ...
EVO has better build quality, better design, no extra free space on top or bottom of the screen, better screen (IMHO) .... Feels premium device. Oh yes huge development support here at XDA.
EPIC has better GPU, Keyboard (which I don't care for, may be big deal for you), SAMOLED (which I think isn't suitable for browsing and reading).
I am VERY happy with my EVO. Get an EVO root, Flash ROM, throw a speedy Kernel in and You won't look at the EPIC again.
Just wanted to put my two cents in.
I was in the same boat as the OP not too long ago.
From a performance perspective, I expected similar results from both, even though epic has the faster processor (how much faster...?). The previous phone also had a keyboard that went mostly unused 95% of the time. Software wise I expected both to be similar as both are based on the same OS.
I later found out the evo does indeed have much better development support at this time. Epic being a newer product is still catching up I suspect.
But overall, 2 reasons why I went with the evo
1) larger screen
2) price - got this for $110 OTD during the holiday promotions.
And actually, #2 was really the final deciding factor.
Okay so here is my idea I am due for an upgrade february first so I was thinking maybe I would get the evo just to see what it's like an see you all the hype is about... and if it doesn't live up to my expectations I will just do the sprint 30 day trading thing and end up with an evo shift. I will be able to side by side both devices since my wife just got the shift on the seventh.
good idea?
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my pre was ready to go and i got the evo because it's what was out at the time. got sick of the virtual keyboard, hated it on my iphone and i think i'll always hate virtual keyboards.
the shift is faster with a great keyboard and much better battery life. and $50 cheaper. that's enough for me.
I will probably end up coming back to the shift but I just want to try out a new you gonna have it for a little while to see if it will suit my needs cuz I don't really need the hard keyboard. and also I have rom add so I wanna try out the 50,000,000,000 there are ready for the evo...
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I am looking to upgrade soon from my Hero and am contemplating the same thing, EVO OG or the Shift. I have seen a few comments about the shift being faster, is that just a placebo because it is new? I thought the OG EVO had a faster clock sped than the new shift (why it gets better battery life).
I have both an Evo and Shift. Stock, the Shift in benchmarks, even with being an 800Mhz cpu, benches quite a bit faster across the board.
Cam seems better on the Shift, esp. anyplace indoors where you need flash. Tho the megapixel rating is only 5.1. More doesn't always mean better.
Evo does have a significantly bigger screen which is good, esp for me. I don't HAVE to wear my reading glasses. Evo has the front cam and a kickstand, and of course, the worthless HDMI port. I've never used the front cam, not once. I really don't WANT to see the folks I chat with. LOL
The reason I added the shift to "probably" replace the evo is the keyboard. I type A LOT. Messages, notes, IM's, data from conf calls, etc and it does get extremely annoying to do it with only a soft keyboard.
Sense, for the folks that like it, has landscape capability on the Shift, not so on the Evo.
Phone wise, both are superb. No odd bluetooth dropouts, I was on the phone for exactly 4 hours and 52 minutes today at work, no issues. Clarity is awesome.
Battery life so far, has been better on the shift than evo. Both seem to get the same amt of signal on both 3g and 4G in my house. Data speed tests with 3g, 4g and wifi are very close to identical. GPS seems about the same, nothing odd there.
Right now, the Evo is nand unlockable and fully rootable, the Shift probably will be and is expected, but this may matter to some folks.
The screen on the evo is flush and has been known to "peel" in the corners. Shift is recessed about 1mm, which will probably eliminate the peeling effect that bothers some folks.
The usb/charge port on the evo is on the bottom, which make it easier to hold and use while charging/syncing, but probably makes it more prone to snapping the pins. The shift is on the side, probably stop the damage occurring, but does make it more awkward to hold/use while charging.
Back cover on the evo was quite easy to remove/swap batteries, whereas the shift, attaches really well to where you think you're going to break the clips.
As you see, both have their pro's and cons. All depends on what you're looking for in a smartphone.
In the end, it'll probably be the keyboard over the screensize that will make my decision.
I currently have a HTC Hero Nand rooted, with custom Sense rom and kernal. When you use roms and kernals on your Evo how does it do? Obviously nothing has been made yet for the Shift for comparison yet though. Just curious about your experiences.
indiscriminant said:
I am looking to upgrade soon from my Hero and am contemplating the same thing, EVO OG or the Shift. I have seen a few comments about the shift being faster, is that just a placebo because it is new? I thought the OG EVO had a faster clock sped than the new shift (why it gets better battery life).
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxI8vG6wT8g&feature=youtube_gdata_player somewhere in the middle of that video is a quadrant test with both of the phones their stock conditions. With rooting in overclocking the shift just goes even farther ahead. I've heard of G2. (which is basically the same phone is the shift) overclocked 2 1800 and a quadrant score of over 3000, so no question the shift is and will be faster. it's just a question of whether or not there will be as much of a development following IMO.
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the5ifty said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxI8vG6wT8g&feature=youtube_gdata_player somewhere in the middle of that video is a quadrant test with both of the phones their stock conditions. With rooting in overclocking the shift just goes even farther ahead. I've heard of G2. (which is basically the same phone is the shift) overclocked 2 1800 and a quadrant score of over 3000, so no question the shift is and will be faster. it's just a question of whether or not there will be as much of a development following IMO.
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That is promising, just gotta figure out if I am going to miss not having the front camera that I have wanted for using Skype with clients for work when needed. Also Screen size.
Rom community is important to me as the Hero has a very strong development and theme community, no way to know if that will come to the shift yet though.
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That is promising, just gotta figure out if I am going to miss not having the front camera that I have wanted for using Skype with clients for work when needed. Also Screen size.
Rom community is important to me as the Hero has a very strong development and theme community, no way to know if that will come to the shift yet though.
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As if now at least, you cannot video chat skype. And hey what's up with all of us being/formerly being hero owners?
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I dunno what to say. When I went in to the sprint store to get a case for the shift, I saw they had the extended battery (unknown rating) for the regular evo. That takes care of a major problem with the old evo. Depends on what's important to you. I've had all three 4g phones. The big screen is definitely a plus for bad eyesight and watching movies. If I had to get another phone, the original evo with the extended battery is tempting. The epic was slightly quicker with games since it had a gpu and the evo was plowing through it with just a single cpu. I'm so disgruntled with samsung, I would probably go for the more screen real estate. Good luck finding a case for it with the fat battery. It certainly makes the evo have some junk in the trunk!
Haa haa! My evo has a ghetto booty! LMAO
With the Hero being 18mos old I think a lot of people are coming up on their 1 year and looking for their next phone. Similar to how a lot of initial EVO adopters were early Hero adopters, we are the crowd who got the Hero 6 months late.
The Skype video chat just went live last week on Iphone4 so I assume it will be not too long for it to be on Android, that is what happened with Skype Voice chat as well. (Although Verizon had that by itself the apk from Verizon was able to be run on other phones, it is what I use on my Hero now)
From a battery perspective, I thought the Hero battery was compatible with the Evo, and along with ROM/Kernal tweaks the Evo battery wasn't horrible. Add in a second battery and you should be pretty good.
Now it would be even better with the shift, just not sure if I want to wait the 2 months for the modding community to pick it up in full stride if it ever does.
I need to get both in my hand to compare them soon and play with them. I really want 2.2 Sense which wasn't able to be achieved on the Hero. Unlike others I really like Sense for it's integration and I don't feel it slows the system down. Nfinites Roms on the Hero with sense worked great with a Zen Kernal.
i want to know will u trade ur epic for a htc evo ? Im thinking but undecided .. i love the keyboard but idk...
I would have to say no. I just got my Epic and was also considering an Evo. After multiple sources of input, opinions and reviews and I chose the Epic.
I just got my GF an EVO. After playing around with it, and doing a bunch of configurations, I realized that I would NOT want an EVO instead of my Epic.
The first reason, is very obvious, no KB. My GF don't care, but for me, this was major, and reaffirmed my choice of the Epic
Second is the SD Card. In my Epic, I can hot swap with ease, on the EVO, what a PITA. Even with it off and opened up, the SD is a MAJOR PITA to remove.
The EVO does have 2 features the Epic does not, TV-Out and the FM Radio. While I would like a FM Radio on my Epic, its not a must, but the lack of TV out sucks.
Overall, I still like my Epic better. It has better hardware, and the additional aftermarket support the EVO gets is not enough to offset the places where it doesn't measure up.
note: the difference in screen size is a non-issue either way for me.
Where's the option for the Evo Shift?
'cause the Evo is a downgrade.
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I just got my GF an EVO. After playing around with it, and doing a bunch of configurations, I realized that I would NOT want an EVO instead of my Epic.
The first reason, is very obvious, no KB. My GF don't care, but for me, this was major, and reaffirmed my choice of the Epic
Second is the SD Card. In my Epic, I can hot swap with ease, on the EVO, what a PITA. Even with it off and opened up, the SD is a MAJOR PITA to remove.
The EVO does have 2 features the Epic does not, TV-Out and the FM Radio. While I would like a FM Radio on my Epic, its not a must, but the lack of TV out sucks.
Overall, I still like my Epic better. It has better hardware, and the additional aftermarket support the EVO gets is not enough to offset the places where it doesn't measure up.
note: the difference in screen size is a non-issue either way for me.
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hey i found this radio its called tune in .. its great u get local and sat radio !! check it out
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Where's the option for the Evo Shift?
'cause the Evo is a downgrade.
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Shift is too.
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Trust me, you don't want an EVO. I switched from it to the Epic for a few good reasons.
1. The EVO's (and most other phones) screen is bad compared to the Epic's (unless you really, really need an extra 0.3 inches of screen, but don't think you'll be seeing extra, the screen res is the same).
2. The Epic 4G (with an amazing rom, such as syndicate and using a hardware-accelerated browser such as Opera with a good home screen app) is a lot, lot, lot smoother than the EVO will ever be (Yes, I used tons of roms available on the EVO, but the screen refresh rate and stronger specs of the Epic allow it to be noticeably smoother, and IMO it's smoother than an iPhone at times. It always 'seemed' smooth, but after getting used to the Epic and iPhone the EVO is laggy) (Also, Voodoo sound anyone??)
3. The hardware keyboard is great when you're in roms like Syndicate, and having that option makes the EVO look like a poor choice when you get tired of having your entire screen filled up with a keyboard every time you want to type.
4. The only Pro's I observed of the Evo over the Epic are: HDMI output (I heard you can use a microusb to hdmi cable in the epic though, I haven't tried), Bigger screen, IMO better looking notification leds, You can turn the softkey lights off (the epic drives me crazy at night), Thinner, Official Cyanogenmod support, Higher megapixel camera (may be poorer quality, I'm not so sure), instant LED on, more bluetooth support (you can use wiimotes), roms are easier to flash, and the kickstand. Of course many of these things are trivial and may not matter to you, I'm just listing them.
5. It is harder to brick the Epic than the EVO (both being incredibly hard, however), but that comes with drawbacks such as having to use Odin to update your modem and such when major updates are released, so you can't purely just update from the SD card all the time (just a minor hassle).
6. The Epic comes with a 16GB MicroSD card vs the 8GB, and you can always swap out SD cards while the Epic is ON unlike the EVO where you MUST shut down, remove the back plate, remove the battery, remove the microSD card (the release function has a very, very poor design, it's very difficult and it helps to use tweezers), reinsert the battery, reattach the back plate, and then wait for the boot up. Unlike the Epic, where you take off the backplate, press down on the card, and it's out.
7. I've always gotten better reception on the Epic, 4G included.
8. Also, the Epic has Gorilla Glass.
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killacammiami said:
i want to know will u trade ur epic for a htc evo ? Im thinking but undecided .. i love the keyboard but idk...
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Hahahaha.
The only things I wish I could steal from the EVO and slap in my Epic is the built in storage.
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The only things I wish I could steal from the EVO and slap in my Epic is the built in storage.
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and the kickstand!
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and the kickstand!
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Kickstand is meh, (at least for me) fell over half the time with my Evo and eventually wound up being enough of a bother for me to switch to the Epic.
Having owned both an Epic and the Evo, I'd have to put my ballot in for the Evo. Having both phones rooted unrooted tons of different roms. I found the Evo a more enjoyable experience. The lack of a physical KB was the only major setback, but I've adapted well.
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ateld said:
Trust me, you don't want an EVO. I switched from it to the Epic for a few good reasons.
1. The EVO's (and most other phones) screen is bad compared to the Epic's (unless you really, really need an extra 0.3 inches of screen, but don't think you'll be seeing extra, the screen res is the same).
2. The Epic 4G (with an amazing rom, such as syndicate and using a hardware-accelerated browser such as Opera with a good home screen app) is a lot, lot, lot smoother than the EVO will ever be (Yes, I used tons of roms available on the EVO, but the screen refresh rate and stronger specs of the Epic allow it to be noticeably smoother, and IMO it's smoother than an iPhone at times. It always 'seemed' smooth, but after getting used to the Epic and iPhone the EVO is laggy) (Also, Voodoo sound anyone??)
3. The hardware keyboard is great when you're in roms like Syndicate, and having that option makes the EVO look like a poor choice when you get tired of having your entire screen filled up with a keyboard every time you want to type.
4. The only Pro's I observed of the Evo over the Epic are: HDMI output (I heard you can use a microusb to hdmi cable in the epic though, I haven't tried), Bigger screen, IMO better looking notification leds, You can turn the softkey lights off (the epic drives me crazy at night), Thinner, Official Cyanogenmod support, Higher megapixel camera (may be poorer quality, I'm not so sure), instant LED on, more bluetooth support (you can use wiimotes), roms are easier to flash, and the kickstand. Of course many of these things are trivial and may not matter to you, I'm just listing them.
5. It is harder to brick the Epic than the EVO (both being incredibly hard, however), but that comes with drawbacks such as having to use Odin to update your modem and such when major updates are released, so you can't purely just update from the SD card all the time (just a minor hassle).
6. The Epic comes with a 16GB MicroSD card vs the 8GB, and you can always swap out SD cards while the Epic is ON unlike the EVO where you MUST shut down, remove the back plate, remove the battery, remove the microSD card (the release function has a very, very poor design, it's very difficult and it helps to use tweezers), reinsert the battery, reattach the back plate, and then wait for the boot up. Unlike the Epic, where you take off the backplate, press down on the card, and it's out.
7. I've always gotten better reception on the Epic, 4G included.
8. Also, the Epic has Gorilla Glass.
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#7- I am in the opposite camp. My Epic kept dropping calls in low signal areas where the Evo does not. If this were an odd occurence and maybe i got a bad phone, I would switch back. Any suggestions?
I wouldn't switch for the current Evo... but the Evo 3D is looking damn sexy to me right now. Plus the dev community for htc phones is insane. we have great devs here, but so few that the ones we do have have to take on full projects alone.
Would never trade my epic for an evo. Epic has better screen, keyboard and ODIN is the shizznit.
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After learning the ways of ROMs and rooting, no. Even without that, in my opinion, the epic is better than the evo.
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No I wouldnt, I like my Epic! The name alone is cooler than "EVO" LoL
My buddy has an Evo and he's even more interested in my phone than he is his!
I think the Epic is just an all around better phone, Hardware, Looks, Functionality (Keyboard), and SPEED!!!
EPIC FOR ME!!!
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I wouldn't switch for the current Evo... but the Evo 3D is looking damn sexy to me right now. Plus the dev community for htc phones is insane. we have great devs here, but so few that the ones we do have have to take on full projects alone.
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What about boot lockout? I think this phone is way better. I have an Evo friend that says if he knew hoye much the camera and screen would mean to him he would have chosen differently. We both use similarly. If you weren't in the dev community, would it change your position? I intend to play more when I get my computer replaced. Especially when cm7 is finished.
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yeah i would trade my epic for an evo just because of the dev community
I would not trade for the current EVO. I have the Epic and my wife owns an EVO. Each phone suits us for what we want to do. But there are just some things that my wife's EVo just does not do as well as my phone. I like to watch all sorts of things on my phones, including videos, and there was one .mkv file that would work on my phone but not on hers, which means Epics have more CODECS to play videos stock than the EVO. Also, I can play games using the hardware keyboard whereas on her phone, the screen are the controls and they get in the way of gameplay.
Don't get me wrong, she loves her phone because she doesn't do the same thing I like to do, so it works for her, but i would NOT trade my phone with her.
Hi all,
I'm currently using my EVO (with Cyanogenmod) but pondering an upgrade to the Nexus S 4G. Has anyone else made that leap and, if so, what are your thoughts and experiences? Thanks.
I havent looked back. Its super fast, easy to manipulate, love my SGX540, 4"screen size is where its at in my opinion. Also, the thing I really found amazing was the huge difference in the displays but 16m colors should be the minimum. Although I enjoyed my Evo when I had it...for about six months. Ill be sticking with the dev phones from now on. Unless they reach a ridiculous screen size.
I made the jump and pondered for a good month going back too.
Overall i'm glad I did and stuck with it. The NS4G feels really light in the hand coming from the evo which is refreshing. A lot of the weird bugs with parts of the OS stopping working after a few days usage I was finding in CM7 on the evo aren't present on the NS4G.
Battery life outdoes the evo for me, even with heavier usage on the NS4G.
My only two complaints:
* The speakerphone isn't very loud. There is a kernel out there to work on fixing this, but i'm holding out for the OTA to see if it helps
* The wifi signal is much weaker than the evo in my house. Hoping the OTA helps there too.
Yeah I used the EVO since last August than I got the NS4G right around launch day.
I don't think I could have a non-developer phone any more. You don't have to deal with any carrier garbage you get to make the phone how you want not how someone else wants it.
Also I rooted both phones as soon as I got them and rooting the NS is vary easy. I would say take the jump if you like pure Google and modding your phone.
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Yeah I used the EVO since last August than I got the NS4G right around launch day.
I don't think I could have a non-developer phone any more. You don't have to deal with any carrier garbage you get to make the phone how you want not how someone else wants it.
Also I rooted both phones as soon as I got them and rooting the NS is vary easy. I would say take the jump if you like pure Google and modding your phone.
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I loved my Evo very much.... or at least I thought I did until I met my sexy nexy. I have not missed my Evo for one instant. Srsly.
Only thing I miss is the kickstand every now and then.
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I have had two nexus phones and each have had problems. I keep switching back to the Evo with good reason. Just sold my second Nexus on ebay. Love the size and weight of the nexus but that's about it. Radio and battery problems galore.
I have only had mine for about 4 days but will give you some comparisons since the evo is still fresh in my mind.
Size: NS is much easier to hold. especially when trying to hold in one handed in portrait. The weight and curves make it feel like it fits in your hand. I always had a problem with the weight and sharp angle of the back wearing into my pinky as that is the finger that would hold all the weight at the bottom in portrait.
Landscape is easier to hold as well... but still don't try to take pictures one handed.
Screen: Colors are much more saturated. I like this. screen is easier to read during the day and very few fingerprints. However whites are a little on the yellow side (warmer as i like my color palette cooler). In low light the screen is just the right brigtness. My wife does not get bothered as much when i leave it on auto brightness at night. That being said there are jagged edges on lines and borders and text if you read with it close. Most of the time you will not notice though. Blacks are AWESOME. Put a black background with white text
camera: Pictures are much better than the evo. options are highly limited though but work well enough for me. have not tried much with the video camera.
UI: I used cm7 with LP on my evo. I put LP on the NS as well. However after a day or so I took it off. I am running stock and have found no reason to root (except that i miss the notification bar widgets but the 4G one does not work yet anyway).....yet. I feel the stock android works and is kind of what CM was trying to achieve anyway + any bonuses they might have.
wifi and 4G: Both work about the same for me. I have seen the NS get further outside then the EVO on occasion so take that for what you will. But i have also seen drop outs on wifi on the NS for no reason.
Battery: battery seems to be better on the NS. I work nights so that throws off any calibration I can do. Will have a better answer next week.
Other: I traded in my evo and got the NS for 150... then got the 50 bucks back the next day for the price drop. so considering i paid 200 for my evo.. i think trading in was a good deal. (was gonna give it to my daughter but she needs to wait awhile)
feel free to ask if you have any other questions and remember yuo do have 30 days just in case something else comes out that may make you question your decision
After selling my second Nexus recently due to battery life and radio issues, I may be down for some of this:
http://thisismynext.com/2011/07/15/samsung-galaxy-ii-within-sprint-pictures/
EVO 4G to EVO 3D to NS4G here.
This is day one with the Nexus and other than the piss poor 4G speed and signal issues I love it (hopefully fixed soon)! I hate Sense.
I won't be able to say no to the SGS2 though. That's what I'm holding my upgrade for.
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i dropped the evo because htc sense interferes with bluetooth performance in my new vechicle.
honestly, i only feel that the nexus has a better camera.
i miss sense so much. the widgets were a big deal to me. and beyond that, there were little software tweaks such as the smart dialer which i couldn't believe were not stock android. also, the nexus is abysmal with signal strength and 4g performance. it also just feels cheap and plastic-y.
i dont believe in modding since non of the roms are totally effective with all features working properly. i hope the nexus update will at least make the phone a bit more bearable. otherwise i will wait patiently for the sprint iphone.
I went from a rooted EVO to a NS4G last week after being disappointed with the 3d. Love it. It's a huge upgrade over the 4G. Hell, it's as fast or faster than the dual core 3d in a lot of instances. You won't be disappointed
Thanks
Thanks all around for everyone that gave feedback. The NS4G's price seems unbeatable right now and everyone's feedback makes me feel like I'd be happy with the upgrade.
I use CM7 for the close-to-stock feel, so having an actual clean, stock UI would make me happy. The main gripes people mentioned wouldn't be features I'd care enough to miss (kickstand, for instance).
Thanks again to all and keep the feedback coming.
I am looking at getting the Nexus-S and i have the EVO-3D, and not so happy with it, with the beastly spec's the 3VO is not near as fast and smooth as I expected.
My Wife has the N-S 4G, and I play with it all the time, I dare say it is faster/smoother than my EVO-3D. Plus the screen is beautiful, and 4" is the perfect size, plus it feels great in the hand, very lightweight and fits in pockets easily.
If coming from the EVO 4G, I highly recommend the Nexus-S 4G.
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EVO 4G to EVO 3D to NS4G here.
This is day one with the Nexus and other than the piss poor 4G speed and signal issues I love it (hopefully fixed soon)! I hate Sense.
I won't be able to say no to the SGS2 though. That's what I'm holding my upgrade for.
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Wait a little longer for the next Nexus, don't get Galaxy S2, the Nexus-Prime, also made by Samsung with a brand new screen technology a HiDef AMOLED+. And will be the first phone on the market running Android 4.0. Plus higher memory and higher RAM than the Galaxy S2 .
Supposed to release by November.
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Wait a little longer for the next Nexus, don't get Galaxy S2, the Nexus-Prime, also made by Samsung with a brand new screen technology a HiDef AMOLED+. And will be the first phone on the market running Android 4.0. Plus higher memory and higher RAM than the Galaxy S2 .
Supposed to release by November.
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I really doubt that.
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I really doubt that.
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What do you doubt, everything he said is correct, at least according to engadget and pocketnow
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mreniigma said:
i dropped the evo because htc sense interferes with bluetooth performance in my new vechicle.
honestly, i only feel that the nexus has a better camera.
i miss sense so much. the widgets were a big deal to me. and beyond that, there were little software tweaks such as the smart dialer which i couldn't believe were not stock android. also, the nexus is abysmal with signal strength and 4g performance. it also just feels cheap and plastic-y.
i dont believe in modding since non of the roms are totally effective with all features working properly. i hope the nexus update will at least make the phone a bit more bearable. otherwise i will wait patiently for the sprint iphone.
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launcher pro has sense-like widgets so you could use that
Gotta say I agree with most of what was said here. I went from an Evo to a NS4G to an Evo 3D, and I'm really at the point where I'm kicking myself now in some ways. The biggest reason I gave my wife the NS4G and took the Evo 3D on an upgrade was the signal issues. Two days later, the update was announced. I was really starting to kick myself at that point, and then it got delayed. I'm hoping the update comes out before my 30 days are up, so I can see the improvements first hand. If not, I'm gonna have to pick up a Photon 4G. I'm honestly not impressed with the Evo 3D. My wife's Nexus feels faster, to tell the truth. Not to mention, I LOVE the feel of the Nexus in my hand. 4.3 inch screen just feels too big. It's uncomfortable. If the Nexus' signal issue get sorted out, I'd say it's my favorite phone, period. But I just can't live with those kinds of signal problems. My wife can.
Same here sort of. Had an Evo 4G, was fine, great when i was running Cyanogenmod. Then i upgraded to an Evo 3D and its great and all, but i really really want aosp, and quicker updates.
so.... i bought a Nexus S 4g which should arrive tomorrow. Anxious to see how it is. I'll reply with my thoughts after i receive it. I have a feeling I'll be selling my evo 3d... we'll see.