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Come one what is the benefit of Acer keeping the beast locked down.
http://m.androidcentral.com/samsung-releases-galaxy-tab-101-kernel-source
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Hell yes.
Here is hope that Acer realizes the sooner they provide the community with what it needs to use our devices to their full potential the sooner they will move more units!
As soon as I saw Samsung released the kernal source it really got me down that I bought the Acer 2 weeks ago. Really like this tablet but with the lack of Acer opening things up I think my tablet is craigslist bound.
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this is so bad of acer
Too lazy to find the link but someone got a Tech Support response that the 3.0.1 kernel source would be out in the next week or 3. Hopefully 3.1 will follow more quickly.
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<attribute lazy=off>Here's the link, should be out today/tomorrow
If it doesn't come out today, I'll chase it up again in that same support task.
yesterday I ask acer indonesia about when 3.1 update and about unlock bootloader
and the answer is "this is acer global policy"
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yesterday I ask acer indonesia about when 3.1 update and about unlock bootloader
and the answer is "this is acer global policy"
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if u ask the customer service, i doubt they even understand what u are talking about...
not customer service..i ask direct to product support manager and look like know nothing
They are doing there own loss .
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I was just thinking... could it be that Acer is nothing but a marketer? They bought the device from OEM manufacturer somewhere in China, label it with 'Acer' and 'Iconia A500' and sell it.
That's why they know nothing about 'unlock bootloader'. Release kernel? Dream on!
Well, hope I'm wrong
Almost electronics products are made in china on this days,and they are releasing 3.1,so i dont believe that
Even worse, Honeycomb 3.2 is coming out within a few weeks and will be pushing to the xoom and possibly HTC flyer devices.
Looks like we are getting behind here Acer..
Biggismalls said:
Even worse, Honeycomb 3.2 is coming out within a few weeks and will be pushing to the xoom and possibly HTC flyer devices.
Looks like we are getting behind here Acer..
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I was under the impression 3.2 was just for 7" tablets.
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I was under the impression 3.2 was just for 7" tablets.
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That's what I've heard too. I think the Huawei is the only official announcement for 3.2 at this point, with the flyer being rumored to be waiting on 3.2 for the update. So we're still only 1 real update behind.
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I was under the impression 3.2 was just for 7" tablets.
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No.
One of the things 3.2 brings to the table is better support for 7" tablets (presumably 1024*600 resolution), but it also brings better hardware acceleration and bug fixes applicable to all Honeycomb tablets.
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foxmeister said:
One of the things 3.2 brings to the table is better support for 7" tablets (presumably 1024*600 resolution), but it also brings better hardware acceleration and bug fixes applicable to all Honeycomb tablets.
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Any source for that? All I've seen is the Huawei announcement.
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Any source for that? All I've seen is the Huawei announcement.
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I would like to see a relevant and trustworthy source as well. Everything I've read says that 3.2 = 3.1 fixed for 7" screens and Adobe Flash 10.3 built in. I haven't seen where any additional features or fixes were announced.
Technically I don't see why they wouldn't fix whatever bugs are discovered in 3.1, BUT I'm guessing 3.1 is the final major release with 3.2 being a minor one and maybe 3.2.x being supplemental bug fixes until Ice Cream is announced and released.
Tomshardware has it. I cant post links yet due to post count.
Go to tomshardware and you will find it.
ASUS just tweeted this:
@ASUS is testing Android 3.2 on the #EeePadTransformer now - we hope to have it released soon!
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http://twitter.com/#!/ASUS/status/91252492712677376
Great news, thanks.
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ASUS just tweeted this:
http://twitter.com/#!/ASUS/status/91252492712677376
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Dan thats fast! But i like it alot
Now, we can speculate on what "soon" means...
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Man, third update since I got mine. My Samsung vibrant had only one in a year, and it wasnt OTA either.
Soon = next week?
Great news ! i hope they release the firmware for the drain issue.
Testing means finalized.
Finalized means leaks.
Leaks means bonertime.
Yeah, we can definitely speculate on this, but they've been rather good at keeping up. If you look honestly at the 3.1 rollout, we we're only a little behind vs. the Xoom release.
Not sure this will include any major hardware-level fixes as that's really not 3.2 related (firmware vs. OS).
good news. cant wait to see whats improved.
Question: (android and tablet noob here)
So google releases the updates to its developers/companies (like samsung, motorola, asus,etc) and then they(the manufacturers) decide as to when they release it to their consumers?
im assuming because they tweak it to fit their product and might add fixes to their own hardware
Right. Or they may decide not to do anything (check out end-of-life issues on the phone side)
Hopefully, Tegra2s are good for Ice Cream Sandwich, but ASUS is not obliged to provide it for the Transformer
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Right. Or they may decide not to do anything (check out end-of-life issues on the phone side)
Hopefully, Tegra2s are good for Ice Cream Sandwich, but ASUS is not obliged to provide it for the Transformer
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I have to ask, why do you say they are not obliged? I though they had to send out updates on a timly manner for a certain amount of time? Didn't they just change some sort of contracts or something?
I believe that was only for cellphones but I could be wrong. I was just about to post this up but looks like you beat me to it, glad to see we'll be getting it soon. Can't wait to test out Prime 1.6 :-D
great news.. no surprise Xoom gets the update first since it's the so called google reference design but asus has been doing a great job..
we got the official 3.1 update nearly one month before the acer a500...let's hope asus can keep up the good work!
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I have to ask, why do you say they are not obliged? I though they had to send out updates on a timly manner for a certain amount of time? Didn't they just change some sort of contracts or something?
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While that may be the case for minor version updates, ICS will be a major version change (4.0?). No-one can expect every current device to be supported for every future Android version. Even Apple doesn't do that for the iDevices (original iPhone only goes as far as iOS 3.1.3).
At some point, like it or not, ASUS will stop bringing new versions for the Transformer. It makes no sense from a business point of view to do otherwise.
So, my point being is that, while ICS will be out before year end, ASUS may decide to focus development efforts of the Kal-El-based tablet they've already said will replace the Transformer. Don't get me wrong, I would love it if they did release ICS for us, but given the Transformer's hardware differences from stock (or the Xoom reference), especially around the keyboard, even having the full ICS source might mean a slightly reduced functionality Transformer at best.
Hopefully ASUS sees ICS as close enough time-wise to be a good reason to support it on the Transformer which, after all, will still be less than a year old.
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I believe that was only for cellphones but I could be wrong. I was just about to post this up but looks like you beat me to it, glad to see we'll be getting it soon. Can't wait to test out Prime 1.6 :-D
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I think your point about cellphones is probably right. You own them for at least the duration of the contract (almost always two years), but the device manufacturers were getting "bored" of them after six months and effectively dropping support by not providing OS updates. This had to change.
Our Transformers, on the other hand, are currently wifi only. They are more akin to a Netbook or Laptop in that respect. Microsoft is not obliged to update Windows 7 any more - they will with patches and possibly an SP2, but they are not legally bound to do either.
Equally, if ASUS did not update the Transformer again after 3.2, we would have no legal recourse. Of course, they'd have a fairly sizable number of people who are not happy, but then equally there's still lots of people running on XP so, arguably, the majority of non-tech consumers would probably not care either way as long as the device just worked.
but isnt Ice Cream the update to unite all and end fragmentation? If anything, wouldnt Ice Cream be the starting point for new android devices, and the end (support wise) for older units like xoom and asus?
So at the very least we shuold expect Ice Cream on TF (hopefully)
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I think your point about cellphones is probably right. You own them for at least the duration of the contract (almost always two years), but the device manufacturers were getting "bored" of them after six months and effectively dropping support by not providing OS updates. This had to change.
Our Transformers, on the other hand, are currently wifi only. They are more akin to a Netbook or Laptop in that respect. Microsoft is not obliged to update Windows 7 any more - they will with patches and possibly an SP2, but they are not legally bound to do either.
Equally, if ASUS did not update the Transformer again after 3.2, we would have no legal recourse. Of course, they'd have a fairly sizable number of people who are not happy, but then equally there's still lots of people running on XP so, arguably, the majority of non-tech consumers would probably not care either way as long as the device just worked.
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You are right. But I think Asus wants to make a good impression. This is their first tablet, so if they ever want to sell a new one, they better provide updates, as this will decide the 'name' the company gets. Everyone knows Samsung as a company that doesn't provide many updates. And many people were worrying about updates, and often decided to buy a HTC smartphone, because they always provided updates. (But Samsung is definitely working on it, look at the SGS II for example.)
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Not going to get my hopes up on 3.2. 3.1 on Asus was a big let down....
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Not going to get my hopes up on 3.2. 3.1 on Asus was a big let down....
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Not sure I agree with you there. 3.0 out of the box was sluggish and dissappointing. 3.1 pepped up the tablet no end.
Yes, there are issues with 3.1 too, but looking at how it fared on the Xoom (the Google reference device, no less!) and I think we've been lucky overall.
I'm hoping 3.2 will be the "Gold" edition of Honeycomb, if you will. Frankly, this is their (Google's) only chance as they've already stated there won't be a 3.3.
A thought just occured to me: Are we living through the Android equivalent of Windows Vista? Is ICS our Windows 7? 2.X certainly seems to have followed XP's history with the finally solid SP2/3 equivalents being 2.2 and 2.3! Bizarre
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but isnt Ice Cream the update to unite all and end fragmentation? If anything, wouldnt Ice Cream be the starting point for new android devices, and the end (support wise) for older units like xoom and asus?
So at the very least we shuold expect Ice Cream on TF (hopefully)
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No offence, but you seem to contradict yourself. On the one hand you're saying ICS will be the starting point for new devices and then end for the older units (including Xoom and TF) and then you say we should expect it.
I really hope we DO get it, but I'm not holding ASUS to it. As others have said, it would make PR sense for ASUS TO release ICS on the Transformer, but that's 3-4 months away at best and their plans may be elsewhere by that time.
Let's just hope for the best! (Or hope some devs deem the TF to be worthy to port ICS if it isn't supported by ASUS)
Official post from ASUS via twitter:
ASUS
Coming to an @ASUS #EeePadTransformer near you... Stay tuned for dates. twitpic.com/736355
Posted 20th October 2011 18:06 GMT.
Looks like they are working at getting ICS released for our TF's
Mark.
The sooner, the better. Good news!
Great news, go Asus!
ICS
Yippie Skippy!
Thanks Asus you are not like LG.
Hope to see ICS in our Transformers soon
I previously owned the early 7" Galaxy Tab - while I loved it, it was pretty obvious Samsung was not pro-active (and known as such) about iterative Android updates.
When I picked up my TF and dock, it had the onerous typing lag and with patience, updates rolled out - the lag was fixed, and I was happy I waited; Other companies don't support this as nicely as Asus does, and I'm really pleased with them for this.
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Official post from ASUS via twitter:
ASUS
Coming to an @ASUS #EeePadTransformer near you... Stay tuned for dates. twitpic.com/736355
Posted 20th October 2011 18:06 GMT.
Looks like they are working at getting ICS released for our TF's
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This hopefully does mean the first-gen TF is getting ICS, and we've heard that from Pocket Lint, too, so it seems likely.
However, I wouldn't read that tweet as confirmation. The second-gen TF is also an EeePad Transformer, after all -- so it could easily be read as meaning ICS is coming to the series, not the first-gen specifically.
That's awesome! Asus has been great about getting updates out. Kudos to them, that goes a long way to customer loyalty.
That Transformer Prime is looking to be pretty sweet too.
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This hopefully does mean the first-gen TF is getting ICS, and we've heard that from Pocket Lint, too, so it seems likely.
However, I wouldn't read that tweet as confirmation. The second-gen TF is also an EeePad Transformer, after all -- so it could easily be read as meaning ICS is coming to the series, not the first-gen specifically.
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ASUS had specifically said that the current gen TF will be getting ICS before the year is through.
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I've had the HTC Hero and the Samsung Epic 4G on Sprint and while XDA development was/is fantastic on both, the manufacturers really dropped the bomb on updating to Eclair/Froyo for Hero and Froyo/Gingerbread for Epic. Glad to see that ASUS is working diligently on updating their devices in a timely manner and communicating the process nicely with their users. Kudos to ASUS, I will definitely buy another product from them in the future.
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ASUS had specifically said that the current gen TF will be getting ICS before the year is through.
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Citation please? I'd like this to be right, but I have not seen any such statement directly from Asus (or attributed to a specific individual at Asus) so far.
All I've seen is Asus saying the Transformer will get ICS (could be TF101, could be Transformer Prime), and third parties saying "anonymous" sources at Asus said the TF101 would get ICS.
Like I said though, I'd really like this to be right, so I'm hoping you've got a citation lined up and ready. ;-)
Thanks Mark for the info. I dont tweet.
Here is what engadget posted.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/20/asus-says-eee-pad-transformer-tablet-will-get-ics-upgrade-som/
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Citation please? I'd like this to be right, but I have not seen any such statement directly from Asus (or attributed to a specific individual at Asus) so far.
All I've seen is Asus saying the Transformer will get ICS (could be TF101, could be Transformer Prime), and third parties saying "anonymous" sources at Asus said the TF101 would get ICS.
Like I said though, I'd really like this to be right, so I'm hoping you've got a citation lined up and ready. ;-)
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The title of this:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/asus-jonney-shih-android-4-0-coming-to-tablets-by-years-end/
...states ASUS Chairman Jonney Shih says 4.0 will be hitting tablets by year's end. However, I don't see a specific quote in the post.
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I previously owned the early 7" Galaxy Tab - while I loved it, it was pretty obvious Samsung was not pro-active (and known as such) about iterative Android updates.
When I picked up my TF and dock, it had the onerous typing lag and with patience, updates rolled out - the lag was fixed, and I was happy I waited; Other companies don't support this as nicely as Asus does, and I'm really pleased with them for this.
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Different business strategy. Samsung focuses more on selling their products to people through advertisement. Asus focuses more on selling their products by post-sale support.
In fact, I can't think of another company that rolls out updates as often as asus.
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The title of this:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/asus-jonney-shih-android-4-0-coming-to-tablets-by-years-end/
...states ASUS Chairman Jonney Shih says 4.0 will be hitting tablets by year's end. However, I don't see a specific quote in the post.
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OK, thanks for the info. Given that they don't say it will be hitting *existing* tablets, I wouldn't read that as proof positive. It could just be saying they'll be shipping new tablets with ICS. We can but hope.
Asus has been doing an amazing job at updates and I give them credit quite frequently. From my netbooks to my transformer... they've always been awesome at delivering a quality product and supporting it. I think ICS will come to the transformer around the end of the year, giving their new tablet 2 months lead with ICS.
The original transformer is still a great tablet and in fact I have several people looking at pricing for the original once the new one comes out. We may see the TF for $299 or $250. Hellofadeal.
LG G2x - 2.3.5 MIUI
Asus Transformer - 3.2 Revolver
Can't wait.
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Citation please? I'd like this to be right, but I have not seen any such statement directly from Asus (or attributed to a specific individual at Asus) so far.
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Hi,
Pocket Lint made an unambiguous statement, quoting Asus. It reads legitimately to me.
As a new poster I can't give you a link, but it is on pocket-lint (dot) com /news/42628/asus-eee-pad-transformer-ice-cream-sandwich
Its expected sometime after the middle of November for the original TF. Like anything else though it could be delayed or even cancelled. There's no concrete date set. Just keep those fingers crossed.
Great news
hope that they unlock the bootloaders on the locked tabs
For those who are looking to buy an A500. Staples will have them on sale for $299 on 11/13. Looks like it is in store only.
LINK
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Sorry but it looks like this sale is by invitation only Link
I may be retarded, but that says it's a black friday sneak preview. What's it have to do with 11/13?
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I may be retarded, but that says it's a black friday sneak preview. What's it have to do with 11/13?
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See my edited post above....
I just bought one on eBay for $250
What do you guys think?
They're all going to drop in price when the T2 releases with ICS! (next month)
So is paying $250 too much for it?
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So is paying $250 too much for it?
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That's a question only you can answer. Is it worth $250.00 to you?
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I just bought one on eBay for $250
What do you guys think?
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A500 or A100? New or used? Warranty? I think you're asking how it compares to the current selling price? With more info you can get an answer to your question.
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They're all going to drop in price when the T2 releases with ICS! (next month)
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by T2 you mean Transformer 2 right? which is actually the Transformer Prime, and not launching with ICS. But like every other tablet, getting ICS soon
But yeah, the price on ALL tablets are going to be dropping soon anyway. With updated models coming out and Christmas sales, not to mention the impending ICS release, tablets are going to be a hot item this holiday shopping season. I may even pick up another one if I find a good enough deal
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by T2 you mean Transformer 2 right? which is actually the Transformer Prime, and not launching with ICS. But like every other tablet, getting ICS soon
But yeah, the price on ALL tablets are going to be dropping soon anyway. With updated models coming out and Christmas sales, not to mention the impending ICS release, tablets are going to be a hot item this holiday shopping season. I may even pick up another one if I find a good enough deal
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Do you not keep up?
The T Prime was delayed so it WILL launch with ICS
http://www.androidauthority.com/asu...-prime-release-date-slides-to-december-31466/
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Do you not keep up?
The T Prime was delayed so it WILL launch with ICS
http://www.androidauthority.com/asu...-prime-release-date-slides-to-december-31466/
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At this point, it's all "he says, she says" and we won't know until there's an official announcement. http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/transformer-prime-detailed-10-inch-super-ips-display-12-hour/
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At this point, it's all "he says, she says" and we won't know until there's an official announcement. http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/transformer-prime-detailed-10-inch-super-ips-display-12-hour/
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Yeah, the world is still flat until you become an astronaut too right?
The T Prime was supposed to launch already, do you see it out?
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20111107PD217.html
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Yeah, the world is still flat until you become an astronaut too right?
The T Prime was supposed to launch already, do you see it out?
http://www.google.com/search?q=transformer+prime+asus+release+date
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Look, I'm not trying to argue but you keep pushing. You're like one of those people who always has to be right no matter what... Yes, it was supposed to be released yesterday, and yes, they also pushed it to December. That happens all the time. They did not say why, however. They never officially stated that it was for ICS. That was only speculation. They did, however, say ICS would be coming to both Transformer's before the end of the year. Whether or not the TP launches with ICS is still unconfirmed. Until Asus makes an official statement, it is only speculation. Could it be true? Possibly. But it's still unconfirmed, nonetheless.
Look. I can post links too: http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/09/asus-...-land-in-early-december-with-tegra-3-for-500/
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Look, I'm not trying to argue but you keep pushing. You're like one of those people who always has to be right no matter what... Yes, it was supposed to be released yesterday, and yes, they also pushed it to December. That happens all the time. They did not say why, however. They never officially stated that it was for ICS. That was only speculation. They did, however, say ICS would be coming to both Transformer's before the end of the year. Whether or not the TP launches with ICS is still unconfirmed. Until Asus makes an official statement, it is only speculation. Could it be true? Possibly. But it's still unconfirmed, nonetheless.
Look. I can post links too: http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/09/asus-...-land-in-early-december-with-tegra-3-for-500/
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You get at least a half a dozen sites that say it will launch with ICS, and a couple that say it's rumor. You live in your fairy tale world and be happy bro OK?.
As to "they didn't say why" , learn to read, maybe not drop out of grade school?
And for the record, you attacked my post, I was just defending what I know to be true.
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A500 or A100? New or used? Warranty? I think you're asking how it compares to the current selling price? With more info you can get an answer to your question.
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Sorry your right its a 16GB A500 used 30 day warranty
Its going to be my first tablet so don't know much about prices on tablets what's a good deal
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All the major tech blogs have said the Prime will launch with 3.2 in December, with ICS following as an upgrade. Since they're getting their info straight from the vendor, I would count them as more credible than some guy on an online forum.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5073/asus-transformer-prime-detailed-quadcore-tegra-3-tablet
"The Transformer Prime is expected to launch in the US in December with Android 3.2. ASUS is hinting at more details on Ice Cream Sandwich availability at the launch of the Prime next month. Based on what I've heard, I wouldn't expect ICS on Tegra 3 until early next year."
http://techland.time.com/2011/11/09/asus-transformer-prime-is-the-first-quad-core-android-tablet/
"For software, the Transformer Prime runs Android 3.2, but not for long; Asus promises to upgrade the tablet to Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) later in December. The upgrade will bring new features like built-in photo editing, better speech-to-text and a system-wide spell checker."
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/transformer-prime-detailed-10-inch-super-ips-display-12-hour/
"Software-wise, it'll ship with Android 3.2 and apps such as SuperNote and Polaris Office, and we're told we'll learn more about that ICS update in 'early December.'"
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/9/2...-prime-pricing-release-date-quad-core-tegra-3
"There's no doubt it sounds like the best Android tablet to date, and while it won't launch with Ice Cream Sandwich, Asus is promising an over-the-air update very soon after the early December release."
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All the major tech blogs have said the Prime will launch with 3.2 in December, with ICS following as an upgrade. Since they're getting their info straight from the vendor, I would count them as more credible than some guy on an online forum.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5073/asus-transformer-prime-detailed-quadcore-tegra-3-tablet
"The Transformer Prime is expected to launch in the US in December with Android 3.2. ASUS is hinting at more details on Ice Cream Sandwich availability at the launch of the Prime next month. Based on what I've heard, I wouldn't expect ICS on Tegra 3 until early next year."
http://techland.time.com/2011/11/09/asus-transformer-prime-is-the-first-quad-core-android-tablet/
"For software, the Transformer Prime runs Android 3.2, but not for long; Asus promises to upgrade the tablet to Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) later in December. The upgrade will bring new features like built-in photo editing, better speech-to-text and a system-wide spell checker."
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/transformer-prime-detailed-10-inch-super-ips-display-12-hour/
"Software-wise, it'll ship with Android 3.2 and apps such as SuperNote and Polaris Office, and we're told we'll learn more about that ICS update in 'early December.'"
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/9/2...-prime-pricing-release-date-quad-core-tegra-3
"There's no doubt it sounds like the best Android tablet to date, and while it won't launch with Ice Cream Sandwich, Asus is promising an over-the-air update very soon after the early December release."
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No blogs here:
"ASUS’ Eee Pad Transformer Prime, the second-gen Transformer, may have its launch pushed back into December, so as to arrive running Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich according to the latest rumors. Google has agreed to help ASUS develop ICS for the Tegra 3 based Transformer Prime, DigiTimes‘ supply chain sources reckon, in an attempt to persuade the company not to shift its focus to Windows 8 tablets instead."
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-trans...ushed-to-dec-for-ice-cream-sandwich-08193892/
"For all of you Asus Transformer fans we have some good and bad news for you. The November 9th launch date for the Transformer Prime has been pushed back to sometime in December. Yes, this is a bummer dudes. I too was looking forward to some NVIDIA quad-core tablet goodness sometime this month.
But, on the other hand, the good news is that apparently Google is willing to help Asus in preparing the tablet so that it ships with ICS on board at launch. That’s cool, right?! We will just have to wait it out for about another month because you know the big G wants their Galaxy Nexus to be the first to arrive on scene rocking the new Android 4.o operating system. And by the way things have been lately, we all should be used to this waiting game by now… or at least expect it."
http://www.talkandroid.com/71362-asus-delays-transformer-prime-to-december-ics-on-board/
"Asus has yet to officially announce the Eee Pad Transformer Prime — that’s supposed to happen tomorrow. And while it was originally slated to launch some time later this month, the Tranformer Prime has now been pushed back to December so that Asus can ship the tablet with Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich pre-installed. Google has agreed to lend a hand to make sure the transition to ICS is a smooth one for Asus."
http://www.geek.com/articles/gadget...old-till-december-pending-ics-update-2011118/
"There’s news floating around that Asus has delayed the release of the Transformer Prime tablet, from November to December, in order to get Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich on-board at launch. Google is assisting Asus in order to complete the process as quickly as possible. It’s unclear at this point if Asus still plans to announce the tablet on November 9th like they previously scheduled, or if that’s been pushed back as well. Stay tuned."
http://www.smartkeitai.com/asus-transformer-prime-delayed-for-ice-cream-sandwich/
There's a difference between rumors and facts. What were quoted in the links I provided were info straight from the vendor from the Prime's official announcement date (11/09/2011). What you're quoting are rumors and gossip. From your own link,
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-trans...ushed-to-dec-for-ice-cream-sandwich-08193892/
"according to the latest rumors"
Please note that this particular blurb was on the 8th, a day before the official announcement.
The other links you provided are merely gossip. Given the tendency of sites to copy-paste content from each other, rumor propagation is rife. Note that all the sites you mentioned are quoting the same rumor.
Regardless of how you parse these, it's as the other poster said, that we'll know for certain when it ships. It's not a big deal either way. The main reason that I replied is because of your juvenile responses to the other poster, with petty put-downs and personal attacks. They were uncalled for.
e.mote, i know you're right, but just let him believe what he wants. obviously when i said he's one of those guys who always has to be right, i hit the nail right on the head. his response to me was totally out of line, even after i point out that it's all speculation and we won't know the truth until we get closer to the actual launch. it should be left at that.
now let's get back on topic.
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e.mote, i know you're right, but just let him believe what he wants. obviously when i said he's one of those guys who always has to be right, i hit the nail right on the head. his response to me was totally out of line, even after i point out that it's all speculation and we won't know the truth until we get closer to the actual launch. it should be left at that.
now let's get back on topic.
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Page bookmarked, I'll leave you kids to your fantasies, and we'll revisit it in December.
Update: different branches of Asus are directly contradicting each other about whether we'll get an update. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28840181 for the first example. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29269146 for yet another contradiction.
Title says it all, really. Asus Europe has confirmed at a press event that Jelly Bean will be released for the Prime, the TF300, and the TF700T, but TF101 and Slider users will be left out in the cold.
Rough translation:
"Sam from Tablets Magazine was present at the press conference, and ASUS confirmed that not all of its tablets can expect an update to the newest version of Android. The Eee Pad Transformer Prime TF201, the Transformer Pad TF300 and the Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 are certain to receive Android 4.1 Jellybean.
The previously launched models, the Eee Pad Transformer TF101 and the Eee Pad Slider, are not expected to be updated, and will remain on Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich."
http://www.tabletsmagazine.nl/2012/...finity-krijgen-android-4-1-jelly-bean-update/
Some if not most of the developers here at XDA who program for the tf101 do a better job than the officials over at ASUS. I have faith in our developers and will support them fully to release any form of Jelly Bean for our beloved tablet.
Read the same news but have not seen it confirmed on other sites. Anyone? The source article says "Earlier launched models, such as the Eee Pad Transformer TF101 and the Eee Pad Slider, won't have to expect an update". They're not literally saying it will "NOT" come to the TF101. Just that it's not expected. So, it's still possible. And isn't Asus supposed to support their Android OS devices 18 months and should comply to Google regulations?
Furthermore, what grauntparty says: our respected XDA devs have done a far better job on ICS than Asus did. In fact, Asus is somehow obliged to grant us TF101 users a JB update. Especially the unlucky ones on stock rom. If you read this Asus, you know what to do... This upgrade cannot be that hard for you, even my old Defy is now running a CM10 JB nigthly already. If not, In Dev We Trust but your brand won't appear on my next shopping list.
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A propos, Motorola, another fine example of customer loyalty. Defy got stuck on Froyo with a locked bootloader, which they promised to remove in 2011. Never heard anything ever since. And now thanks to xda devs it has JB. Oh, as much as I love my precious Defy I HATE Moto.
If this is true, it'll be my last ASUS Android purchase. Halting support for new versions after only a year?!
in devs we trust, all glory to xda!!!!
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Title says it all, really. Asus Europe has confirmed at a press event that Jelly Bean will be released for the Prime, the TF300, and the TF700T, but TF101 and Slider users will be left out in the cold.
Rough translation:
"Sam from Tablets Magazine was present at the press conference, and ASUS confirmed that not all of its tablets can expect an update to the newest version of Android. The Eee Pad Transformer Prime TF201, the Transformer Pad TF300 and the Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 are certain to receive Android 4.1 Jellybean.
The previously launched models, the Eee Pad Transformer TF101 and the Eee Pad Slider, are not expected to be updated, and will remain on Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich."
http://www.tabletsmagazine.nl/2012/...finity-krijgen-android-4-1-jelly-bean-update/
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this is the last thing i bought from asus ,
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Satertek said:
If this is true, it'll be my last ASUS Android purchase. Halting support for new versions after only a year?!
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yeah, if its true, i hate it, Galaxy S II has one and a half year and GOOGLE says manufucator should at least support the device 18 months
This tablet better get an official update. It shouldn't be hard for them to come up with one.
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like wise i bought this tablet in december. and it know to old to be update a mere 7 months later. first it takes them months and months to get ics and it buggy.
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This is a surprise to any of you? There are lots of very good AOSP roms out there so we will be fine.
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Read the same news but have not seen it confirmed on other sites. Anyone? The source article says "Earlier launched models, such as the Eee Pad Transformer TF101 and the Eee Pad Slider, won't have to expect an update". They're not literally saying it will "NOT" come to the TF101. Just that it's not expected. So, it's still possible.
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I know, you don't want to believe it, but that's clutching at straws. (Google-translated straws, at that.)
Asus has told them which products are and aren't getting updates. They've reported that. The only way we'll get an update from Asus now is if they change their mind, which is pretty darned unlikely.
I'm sure we'll get an excuse at some point that the TF101 and Slider "aren't capable" of running JB, which we all know is complete nonsense.
The real reason we're not getting the update? Because we're Tegra 2, which is no longer the current generation. Hence it costs money to make the update; they can't simply repurpose an update for another device. (Devices getting the update are all Tegra 3; devices not getting it are all Tegra 2.)
If you ask me, it's likely why the ICS update we got is so rubbish, as well. We got a half-assed bodged variant of Tegra 3 ICS, rather than a proper Tegra 2 build. So frankly, it's good news that we're not getting official JB, because we'd just have gotten another half-assed build if they'd shipped one, anyway.
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I know, you don't want to believe it, but that's clutching at straws. (Google-translated straws, at that.)
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No, that's how I interpret the source article. And I'm Dutch, so I should know. I couldn't care less what Asus does or doesn't.
cholywell said:
This is a surprise to any of you? There are lots of very good AOSP roms out there so we will be fine.
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the matter is that i want H/W on it, AOSP doensn't have it
Martijn1971 said:
No, that's how I interpret the source article. And I'm Dutch, so I should know. I couldn't care less what Asus does or doesn't.
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Fair enough, apologies for the misunderstanding, I don't often look at people's flags. Should've noticed that, though.
That said, even with your translation, you're still clutching at straws. Why would Asus tell them it wasn't coming, unless they'd decided it wasn't coming?
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the matter is that i want H/W on it, AOSP doensn't have it
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And just what is "H/W"?
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this is the last thing i bought from asus ,
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yeah, if its true, i hate it, Galaxy S II has one and a half year and GOOGLE says manufucator should at least support the device 18 months
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Transformer TF101 was launched on March 30, 2011. Adding 18 months, we should be hoping for software updates until October 2012.
That would give Asus 2.5 more months to support the device with updates. I'd personally expect perhaps 1 more ICS update but given Asus track record on updates I don't expect JB anymore. It takes them a couple (or more) of updates to get it somewhat stable and that would take more months.
WHAT its been 3 months since I bought this tablet FUC# you Asus "In XDA I TRUST"
Try getting yourself a Samsung Tablet then and see what real under valued customers have to go through. Asus have been way more reasonable with updates for the TF. I can understand the frustration but there are worse out there. Org Gtab (some) are still on Froyo, then the 1st gen larger tabs (some) are still on HC.....then the Tab2 rolled out within months of those.
Maybe the problem is just the whole Android system in itself......too many cooks and all that.
Maybe Google will have to ditch some of the manufacturers from the scene.
Or maybe the manufacturers that use Android just need to stop arseing around with it and all the fancy schmancy extra things they do with the O.S and leave it as close to the Google image as possible.
Or they should just pay our devs a good some of money to fix what they have came up with and let them show the way it should be done.
Who knows.
As much as i like how the whole android set up works for me, i have to be honest and say i now understand why and how Ipads etc are so appealing to some. Its a lot of money to spend on something that "sometimes" works the way it should.
I would jailbreak any "i"device so i dont think its a case of you shouldnt have to rely on our fantastic hard working devs to make something better......its just the way it is.
Go devs! We salute you! nuff respect :good: (look forward to some well made JB)
Well, no JellyBean crap from asus for you this time.
But as of aosp, I am making progress.
I love my TF101, even though our relationship is complex atm as we have to communicate through adb, as the touchscreen drivers aren't fixed as of now.
But JellyBean works. Just a little more effort for the first test releases.
I even get full support from my old friend guevor and maybe also from Team Liquid for Rom debugging.
Nuff said, asus.
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But JellyBean works.
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I'd be surprised by the opposite: the Xoom is on the "officially supported" list and it's almost identical (hardware-wise) to the TF101, so Jelly Bean has to work on our devices.
Keep up the good work!
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And just what is "H/W"?
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Hard/Ware acceleration, you can't play videos with H/W in aosp, and i do look at videos with my tab,
and we got no dualboot kernel for the tab neither