Can any of you guys with a Retail device try running fastboot oem unlock and seeing if the bootloader is unlockable?
This. Need to know if it can be rooted as easily as I/O model.
retail bootloader is locked (in accessible; no fastboot capabilities).
recovery is neutered (cant flash from there).
you get odin though.
Hm. Sounds like Odin from the I/O builds is our best bet.
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Is it encrypted or signed? Just wondering.
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Since the galaxy s and nexus s have the same specs and both made by samsung the method of a flashable.zip to root and install busybox might new possible what are your thoughts?
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Maybe you could unlock the bootloader as well?
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Yup, I'd suggest fastboot oem unlock and then go ahead and flash whatever you like...
i like that idea ^^
Yea its gotta be the same one as the nexus one same kind of software
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No the Galaxy S 2.1 .zip method will not work. It doesn't work on 2.2 Vibrant leaks. SuperOneClick / rageagainstthecage does, however.
Either way, thanks to this not being HTC, we will have it rooted the day it comes out (or sooner).
You realize that the n1, an HTC phone, has a neat fastboot command to unlock the bootloader out of box, yeah? Funnily enough that tiny convenient feature is present in the ns.
Bad HTC for making it easy at the request of Google. And bad Samsung for doing the same!!
Anderdroid said:
No the Galaxy S 2.1 .zip method will not work. It doesn't work on 2.2 Vibrant leaks. SuperOneClick / rageagainstthecage does, however.
Either way, thanks to this not being HTC, we will have it rooted the day it comes out (or sooner).
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swetland said:
Yup, I'd suggest fastboot oem unlock and then go ahead and flash whatever you like...
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quick question idk if you can answer it or if you know the answer to it but will this void the warranty like it did on the N1 and will it make a lock appear on splash1 like on the N1?
I wonder if the new method to root the nexus one without unlocking the bootloader would be able to work on the nexus S..
godsfilth said:
quick question idk if you can answer it or if you know the answer to it but will this void the warranty like it did on the N1 and will it make a lock appear on splash1 like on the N1?
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The warranty language is slightly different this time around (uses "may" instead of "will"). The unlocked icon displays when you have it unlocked. It goes away when you run fastboot oem lock -- at which point it is not flashable until you unlock it again.
I have high hopes that Samsung will be reasonable about hardware warranty service.
swetland said:
The warranty language is slightly different this time around (uses "may" instead of "will"). The unlocked icon displays when you have it unlocked. It goes away when you run fastboot oem lock -- at which point it is not flashable until you unlock it again.
I have high hopes that Samsung will be reasonable about hardware warranty service.
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So the fastboot oem lock command is available on retail Nexus S devices but not on the N1? Interesting... or did I misunderstand you? Also, what partitions do you mean are not flashable after locking it again? Just like it was before unlocking or even more locked?
swetland said:
The warranty language is slightly different this time around (uses "may" instead of "will"). The unlocked icon displays when you have it unlocked. It goes away when you run fastboot oem lock -- at which point it is not flashable until you unlock it again.
I have high hopes that Samsung will be reasonable about hardware warranty service.
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thanks thats good news i dont OC my phone or anything but i was hit by the dust under the screen issue on the N1 (resolved eventually) and am paranoid about it now
I have one more question will retail phone be lockable or is that only for you special google people with a s-off spl like the N1
@blunden the N1 had oem unlock as well but it said it WILL void your warranty which HTC used that wording a number of times to decline replacing peoples phones, though i know google folks tried to and mostly succeeded in getting HTC to reverse the decision on most phones
and yes he ment when re-locked you cant flash anything because you lose root privlages to flash through fastboot (i.e. fastboot flash clockwork-recovery.img to get a custom recovery and flash update.zip ROMs)
Picking up my nexus s tomorrow will report back
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HTC fixed my phone three times with an unlocked bootloader. I hope Samsung is as generous.
swetland said:
The warranty language is slightly different this time around (uses "may" instead of "will"). The unlocked icon displays when you have it unlocked. It goes away when you run fastboot oem lock -- at which point it is not flashable until you unlock it again.
I have high hopes that Samsung will be reasonable about hardware warranty service.
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You can confirm that fastboot oem lock works on retail Nexus S units? I know Google's internal Nexus Ones had that capability, but it was removed from the SPL in retail models.
Using SuperOneClick won't void your warranty (rageagainstthecage method). I heard it works. Confirm/Deny anybody?
mortzz said:
You can confirm that fastboot oem lock works on retail Nexus S units? I know Google's internal Nexus Ones had that capability, but it was removed from the SPL in retail models.
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Yes that is correct it does have that capability.
Hook it up to your PC then:
adb reboot-bootloader
Your bootloader will be unlocked.
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You can confirm that fastboot oem lock works on retail Nexus S units? I know Google's internal Nexus Ones had that capability, but it was removed from the SPL in retail models.
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i can confirm fastboot oem LOCK does work and it does say locked in the spl again yay
ignore....
*EDIT* NVM
i know that there is currently a problem with bootloader version 3.34 where you cannot choose the recovery option and i was wondering, is there a bootloader version, possibly from an earlier update, that has this function working that is flashable? is it even possible to flash a bootloader? or has this bug been here since the release of the device?
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i know that there is currently a problem with bootloader version 3.34 where you cannot choose the recovery option and i was wondering, is there a bootloader version, possibly from an earlier update, that has this function working that is flashable? is it even possible to flash a bootloader? or has this bug been here since the release of the device?
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Bump on this...
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I don't recall it being there before. Did not know about the issue prior to this. Its not just recovery but nothing works for me
Boot loaders can be flashed through fastboot . The old bootloader is in the previous factory images.
I can't confirm 100 percent that flashing it will work though. Well it will work but if you do it and something goes wrong don't blame me. I am not responsible yada yada.
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Hey guys, I'm getting a locked G2 but don't know if the boot loader will be locked too. Do you have any idea how to check that before purchase? What will be the limitations of the locked boot loader and is it possible to unlock it. Can you explain with few words what wold my options be? I really like the G2 but I might opt for the N5 at the end.
Every G2 has a locked bootloader. Mut every G2's locked bootloader can be bypassed with loki. So in short yes you will be able to flash stuff.
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So the bootloader doesn't matter if you can flash a custom recovery, right ? I mean - what limitations will the locked bootloader bring in the long run, as I'm expecting to use the device for 2 years (buying on contract) ? I read some posts that there are some G2-s with unlocked bootloader and I'm a bit puzzled...
4.2.2 bootloader can be bypassed with a loki patch. You can root, use custom recovery, ROMs, the lot.
4.4.2 has the loki exploit patched and only root is possible so far.
Any idea if the device might ship with 4.4.2 pre installed?
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axlastro said:
Any idea if the device might ship with 4.4.2 pre installed?
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eventhough it is preinstalled, you can still flash a kdz file to go back to 4.2.2 (to achieve root & custom recovery) :good:
Well that is really good news !
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I am considering picking up the 10 due to the recent sale. I am trying to figure out which is the easiest option.
Option 1: buy the unlocked version, factory unlock boot loader then convert to Verizon RUU
Option 2: buy the Verizon version, roll back firmware to pre January 17 version, use Sunshine to unlock
I think option 2 should be easier but there seems to be a few instances of bricks in the thread. I really don't know how viable option 1 is as most of the guides I saw are older and I don't know if there are any issues with newer firmware.
Thanks!
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I preferred the unlocked version
you get choices of colors and no branded 'Verizon' anywhere on the device
Just simply boot the phone up, enable developer settings, check OEM unlock and USB debugging and then unlock boot loader through HTC dev (this may not even need to be done as sunshine could do it for you... the Verizon HTC doesn't allow unlocking the bootloader through HTC dev)
Your phone resets. Boots back up, e able developer settings, USB debugging, and use sunshine to s-off your phone
Boot to download mode and change your CID and MID
Flash Verizon RUU
Boot up and activate phone.
Then go about how you want. Flash TWRP, custom Roms ect
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I am considering picking up the 10 due to the recent sale. I am trying to figure out which is the easiest option.
Option 1: buy the unlocked version, factory unlock boot loader then convert to Verizon RUU
Option 2: buy the Verizon version, roll back firmware to pre January 17 version, use Sunshine to unlock
I think option 2 should be easier but there seems to be a few instances of bricks in the thread. I really don't know how viable option 1 is as most of the guides I saw are older and I don't know if there are any issues with newer firmware.
Thanks!
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I think both options come down to the same thing, meaning that you'd need to get sunshine and then do whatever you like. So get whatever version is cheaper for you. However price being equal I would get the unlocked version myself as well since it comes with uh-oh protection.
Keep in mind that if you get the verizon one with Nougat already on it (once it's available) you might not be able to s-off at all.
Thanks for the assistance. I am going with the factory unlocked version and then will flash the Verizon radio.
Edit: and... I waited too long. The $150 price break is gone.
For warranty purposes, is it better to unlock the bootloader with Sunshine than go onto the HTC developer site?
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alershka said:
Thanks for the assistance. I am going with the factory unlocked version and then will flash the Verizon radio.
Edit: and... I waited too long. The $150 price break is gone.
For warranty purposes, is it better to unlock the bootloader with Sunshine than go onto the HTC developer site?
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Probably, but if you're able to sunshine you don't really need to unlock the bootloader anyway. S-off/locked gives you all functionality you need.
Thanks for the info again. According to the HTC website unlocking the bootloader does not effect the uh oh protection. I tweeted @HTC and they eventually fixed the website. My 10 is ordered (unlocked carbon gray) .
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Will it ever be available?
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Not likely, bootloader is locked and may never become unlocked
Well at least we have root
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ThaHaloMilitia said:
Will it ever be available?
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Lol give up hope never get another AT&T SAMSUNG DEVICE all perm root methods are lost for them. This is fact. AT&T sucks
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kangi26 said:
Not likely, bootloader is locked and may never become unlocked
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So I am new to this stuff and I am wondering what does OEM unlock mean? Does this mean that the boot loader is unlocked? I have a samsung galaxy s7 edge with AT&T sm-G935A and I am trying to figure out if I can use TWRP and I see where you say no but I have found some sites that say yes and I am confused and do not want to brick my phone. I have rooted it just fine but would like custom recovery options if possible. As I said I am new to this and trying to figure it all out. Thanks.
JennHopper09 said:
So I am new to this stuff and I am wondering what does OEM unlock mean? Does this mean that the boot loader is unlocked? I have a samsung galaxy s7 edge with AT&T sm-G935A and I am trying to figure out if I can use TWRP and I see where you say no but I have found some sites that say yes and I am confused and do not want to brick my phone. I have rooted it just fine but would like custom recovery options if possible. As I said I am new to this and trying to figure it all out. Thanks.
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There is no way to get the Qualcomm (US) Galaxy S7's to boot unsigned code. Specifically, Samsung signed code. That means no TWRP or custom ROMs. The engineering kernel (which you rooted with) was leaked and is signed by Samsung, but it will only boot signed kernels. It does, however, make /system read-write so you can add your own system services.
The only good news is that Odin can recover from quite a few situations that would ordinarily brick a phone, but there are no custom recovery options such as what TWRP provides (like a whole ROM backup)
If you want a fully open Galaxy S7 you will have to import one of the Exynos devices, as they are still unlockable for now. However, as Samsung Pay expands, expect those to get locked down at some point in the future.
JennHopper09 said:
So I am new to this stuff and I am wondering what does OEM unlock mean? Does this mean that the boot loader is unlocked? I have a samsung galaxy s7 edge with AT&T sm-G935A and I am trying to figure out if I can use TWRP and I see where you say no but I have found some sites that say yes and I am confused and do not want to brick my phone. I have rooted it just fine but would like custom recovery options if possible. As I said I am new to this and trying to figure it all out. Thanks.
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OEM Unlocking is specifically for "Unlocking" on the carrier side so the device can be used on AT&T/T-Mo/Sprint etc
Bootloader unlocking is a completely different thing.
jshamlet said:
There is no way to get the Qualcomm (US) Galaxy S7's to boot unsigned code. Specifically, Samsung signed code. That means no TWRP or custom ROMs. The engineering kernel (which you rooted with) was leaked and is signed by Samsung, but it will only boot signed kernels. It does, however, make /system read-write so you can add your own system services.
The only good news is that Odin can recover from quite a few situations that would ordinarily brick a phone, but there are no custom recovery options such as what TWRP provides (like a whole ROM backup)
If you want a fully open Galaxy S7 you will have to import one of the Exynos devices, as they are still unlockable for now. However, as Samsung Pay expands, expect those to get locked down at some point in the future.
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OEM Unlock for Custom OS
kangi26 said:
OEM Unlocking is specifically for "Unlocking" on the carrier side so the device can be used on AT&T/T-Mo/Sprint etc
Bootloader unlocking is a completely different thing.
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That's not entirely true. Turning on OEM Unlock warns that using Custom OS will disable functions like Knox and Samsung Pay. I own an AT&T Galaxy s7 Edge (SM-G935A) running official Oreo OS (Android 8.0.0)
What you have described is Carrier unlocking.
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