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Now I'm fully aware of my n00b status, and will not deny it at all, however last night when I was in the midst of my ROM installation fiasco (worked out well in the end!) I thought of something that might be pretty useful when doing all this flashing back to stock in order to load a custom rom...(and then messing up the custom rom, then loading backup, then messing that up, then almost bricking, then freaking out over possible brick, then figuring out how to really use ODIN3, then starting stock, lol....the past 12 hours has been a serious learning experience, but fun now that it's done)
The process I followed to install the Cognition ROM involved taking my bone stock captivate and rooting it, then installing ROM Manager, then backup, etc....Here's my suggestion, take it for what it's worth, and if I'm overstepping my boundaries, try to be nice about letting me know
I've noticed that there are many root "packages" where it installs root, and lagfixes, and a ton of other stuff, but (and maybe I haven't looked hard enough, but I've looked...) I noticed there isn't just a root "package" that ONLY roots the phone and installs ROM Manager only...this is my suggestion- make one! Maybe include Titanium backup, but since I was a bone stock Captivate, I didn't really have too much invested in apps, since I knew I was going to be going back and forth, and I intend on keeping it that way for a while, since I am still learning. But yeah- Root, ROM Manager, and Titanium Backup package would pretty much be the sh*t!
Now, I know I haven't contributed a damn thing to this forum, but this seems like it would be a handy tool to have, and while it's benefits are marginal (you save the whole 3 or 4 minutes to go to the market and install these apps) it makes life a little easier in a world where life isn't always easy (as I found out last night/this morning
If something like this exists already, forgive me for my ignorance and please point me in the right direction. I'm not trying to step on any toes or offend anyone, I just think this would be handy to have, and judging from the knowledge floating around this forum, it *seems* like it would be something fairly elementary for some of you extremely knowledgeable folks to do..
My apologies for such a long-winded post, but I tend to be that way, and again...thanks to all on this forum for a treasure trove of information to read through and slowly acquaint myself with the Android OS...It's hella better than the 3gs Iphone I previously had.......
Welcome aboard. I will say this first, post in the proper area of the forum, this belongs in the general discussion area, for future reference, this is the developement forum.
There are one click root methods, there are other packages that remove AT&T bloat and toss in a few other goodies. A word of caution, read, read, read, learn as much as you can from all of our mistakes before you go making the same ones. You should read an entire thread before jumping ahead and flashing, that way you avoid fiascos and possible brick your phone. Read all of the stickies at the top of the page, then browse all of the topics discussed, usually if you read an entire thread your questions will be answered in it. If you run into trouble and need help you will find it here. Happy hunting!
Root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304
ROM Manager and Titanium: Get them from the market.
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Welcome aboard. I will say this first, post in the proper area of the forum, this belongs in the general discussion area, for future reference, this is the developement forum.
There are one click root methods, there are other packages that remove AT&T bloat and toss in a few other goodies. A word of caution, read, read, read, learn as much as you can from all of our mistakes before you go making the same ones. You should read an entire thread before jumping ahead and flashing, that way you avoid fiascos and possible brick your phone. Read all of the stickies at the top of the page, then browse all of the topics discussed, usually if you read an entire thread your questions will be answered in it. If you run into trouble and need help you will find it here. Happy hunting!
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+1 to this and yes there is indeed a one-click root already (as bare as you can get). installing ROM manager and titanium can be your job after that (how hard is that? takes like 5 seconds). and yes, read! reading is your friend! read read read read and then when you feel like you've learned everything you can, read more because you still haven't figured it all out. and again, because this doesn't provide anything NEW or unique to Android running on the Samsung Captivate, please keep it to General.
Thanks and enjoy your phone
Rhiannon224 said:
Welcome aboard. I will say this first, post in the proper area of the forum, this belongs in the general discussion area, for future reference, this is the developement forum.
There are one click root methods, there are other packages that remove AT&T bloat and toss in a few other goodies. A word of caution, read, read, read, learn as much as you can from all of our mistakes before you go making the same ones. You should read an entire thread before jumping ahead and flashing, that way you avoid fiascos and possible brick your phone. Read all of the stickies at the top of the page, then browse all of the topics discussed, usually if you read an entire thread your questions will be answered in it. If you run into trouble and need help you will find it here. Happy hunting!
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Cool. I will be sure to post correctly next time. Maybe a mod can move this thread.
As far as reading, that's all I've been doing for the past 2 months (hence, my low post count...didn't want to post when an answer is around the corner) Coming from the Iphone, this is a whole new monster, and all the reading I've done has benefited me infinitely
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Cool. I will be sure to post correctly next time. Maybe a mod can move this thread.
As far as reading, that's all I've been doing for the past 2 months (hence, my low post count...didn't want to post when an answer is around the corner) Coming from the Iphone, this is a whole new monster, and all the reading I've done has benefited me infinitely
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Enjoy your phone, I love mine, I'm a noob too and I spend hours everyday studying these forums. Everyone on here is very helpfull, I use Designgears stuff and love it. His new ROM is amazing it will make your phone fly. My phone has never worked like this, my battery life has improved drastically since flashing this ROM last night. Here's a link to the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786532
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Enjoy your phone, I love mine, I'm a noob too and I spend hours everyday studying these forums. Everyone on here is very helpfull, I use Designgears stuff and love it. His new ROM is amazing it will make your phone fly. My phone has never worked like this, my battery life has improved drastically since flashing this ROM last night. Here's a link to the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786532
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Yes, but she needs to show it off in her signature... =)
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Yes, but she needs to show it off in her signature... =)
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I was enjoying it so much I forgot to update my signature. I've been hanging out here trying to help answer some questions, thanks for catching that.
What are all the things I need become a full root user?
What do I need to use everything and have everything?
Like Unrevoked forever or 3.21 rooting?
Custom recovery,custom Rom,kernel,free WiFi tethering,nand unlock and backup,what apps to have everything and how to become a superuser and update the radio(if necessary)
How to back up my Rom in Rom manager.
Please step by step.
And in order please,
I need to learn how to do all of this.
Can someone help me with all the content of new to root?
I need to know what I need to do and how to do it.
What I'm missing and how I can back things up.
Like how to get nand unlock and backup.
How I install Roms and update the radio? Is that still needed?
Sent from my HTC EVO
Sent from my HTC EVO
As much as I can't stand the people who say, "Use the Search Tool!" and then brush you off, I've got to say that after reading your post I can somewhat sympathize with them.
Your question(s) have been answered ad nauseum across these boards and a very quick search could provide the resources you are looking for far quicker than it takes to write a post and wait for an answer. I'm sure you can imagine what these boards would look like if every one of the thousands of people with the same questions as you simply posted them as you did rather than searching and reading. As the single best source for all things android and possibly the largest, it would be 90% posts just like yours and 10% of everything else. It is simply impossible and unreasonable to expect anything different.
But, I digress...
In regards to rooting the EVO... Again, it would be redundant for me or anyone else for that matter to give you step by step instructions since the answers are freely and easily available in the "Android Development" section of the EVO subforum. That said, here are two great places to start:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
The above two links will take you directly to the two threads representing the two different root methods. In sum, the top one is the easiest and the second one is more involved but the end result as far as the phone is concerned is identical. Lots of folks recommend the harder method simply because of the value in what you learn in the process. That said, between those two threads I think you will find all the answers you are looking for and more.
Good morning,
I recently ordered a new KF, and am planning on rooting it/etc, but am new to modding anything other than my Android phone.
Any tips or tricks that can be provided would be much appreaciated, it seems like there burrito root is pretty easy, but anything to watch out for etc?
Thanks!
MrGert said:
Good morning,
I recently ordered a new KF, and am planning on rooting it/etc, but am new to modding anything other than my Android phone.
Any tips or tricks that can be provided would be much appreaciated, it seems like there burrito root is pretty easy, but anything to watch out for etc?
Thanks!
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make sure you understand all the steps . and do it in 1 row, not like me i did it in 4 days. And look if all the files are in the root-manual. do not download them from google etc. big chance for virus's
root-manual?
I would recommend KFU.... try to get a liliputing video guide... or rootzwiki. Hope this helps sorry I do not have any links.
Sent from my ICS kindle fire
Its really not to hard. Just go slow and follow each step as outlined in one of the many guides. Check the stickies and read them through to make sure you know what you are doing before hand. Also be sure to make a back up right away in case something happens. Finally dot freak out if something does go wrong because the kindle is pretty forgiving and able to be unbricked.
matchstick13 said:
Its really not to hard...
...the kindle is pretty forgiving and able to be unbricked.
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Yea, that's what it seems through reading
Complete Video Guide and troubleshooting for root,market,recovery,etc...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417234
If you have any problems search the forums for your problem and spend a little time reading.
I will bet you any amount of money you problem has been discussed hundreds of times.
I have seen people post threads stating "OMG My Kindle Is Broken help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
And there will be 2-3 threads on the first page that had they spent 5 minutes looking could have solved their problem.
if you want to use a custom lock screen which is pretty cool, read my thread here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497383
Ok so first and foremost, I own a samsung captivate, so I know a little about android. I've rooted it.
Now I'm looking to enter the tablet scene. Being a college student, I'm looking for cheap ones lol. I've seen a video on youtube with someone running cyanogenmod 7 with working sound on the kindle fire and so i found that to be my best bet on getting the most out of a cheap tablet.
reading up on the rooting for the KF, I found people with version 6.2.2 to have met a lot of issues.
I Plan on ordering one later this month, so I'm putting my guess on it'll be in the latest version (6.2.2) and that gives me the caution that makes me write this post
anyways what are your (the experts from XDA - being anyone not me) thoughts, and advice for me to avoid bricking and ruining a 200 buck investment (or perhaps 180 if i get refurbished)?
i bought kindle fire when the 1st time it released. during that time, superoneclick is the utility to root, now with new firmware, we can use burritoroot.. so far i haven't heard total bricked issue (i think so). common problem usually bootloop, stuck in bootloader. etc but all can be fixed... i think no need to be afraid. i already root, unroot, install various recovery, backup, restore backup, etc and not a single problem.
if u want to install cm7, that is a good choice but some minor bugs still exist but so far cm7 is most stable compare to other custom rom (except "custom stock" rom)..
The Kindle Fire is a great choice. I have two (one for my wife) and have loved every minute with them. I ran the factory rom for all of 2 weeks before rooting and eventually settling on CM9. I really enjoy the ice cream sandwich version despite the minor bugs. These are very quickly disappearing as the wonderful devs are pounding away the code to make our life better.
So as a college student get a kindle they are cheep and I have found to be very robust. Then quickly ditch the horrible and limited kindle rom. CM7 or CM9 is a fine choice you will be happy with your sweet tablet. I get comments on mine all the time.
Awesome, you guys are reassuring me with making this purchase.
I'm quite intrigued by the comparison of CM7 and CM9.
any personal opinion on the difference? (I'm watching youtube videos now, but I like cutting down false feedback from trolls in the comments lol.)
zane203 said:
I'm quite intrigued by the comparison of CM7 and CM9.
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CM7 is stable and work flawlessly for me
CM9 is (yet) in experimental phase
If you want to make experiments with your rom, take CM9
If you just want to flash rom and forget about it, take CM7
I have no problem helping people out, and I hate to be the prude who calls you out, but there are tons of threads just like yours already in the forum which people have already answered. Basically you want a tutorial, which there are many of in the forums, but you instead made a new post. In the future, spend more than 5 minutes in the forums before calling out for help.
Nothing to it, see sig. Plenty of threads to help. Search and yea shall find, or browse a little.
Using Tapatalk on a Kindle Fire w CM7 ROM
I have no problem helping people out, and I hate to be the prude who calls you out, but there are tons of threads just like yours already in the forum which people have already answered. Basically you want a tutorial, which there are many of in the forums, but you instead made a new post. In the future, spend more than 5 minutes in the forums before calling out for help.
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._. I've done research for about 3 days...
As stated, most stuff Read up on was about version 2.2.1 which people used burrito1 for.
after KF was updated, I ran across the instructions to use burrito2 or 3, in which case upon searching, 3/4th of the posts found was "I'm having problems"
I simply wanted to take an extra precaution before making a big jump in a budget... I apologize if that seemed redundant to the people who take the time out to aid people like me, but I assure I thank you all regardless of this point ^^ .
zane203 said:
._. I've done research for about 3 days...
As stated, most stuff Read up on was about version 2.2.1 which people used burrito1 for.
after KF was updated, I ran across the instructions to use burrito2 or 3, in which case upon searching, 3/4th of the posts found was "I'm having problems"
I simply wanted to take an extra precaution before making a big jump in a budget... I apologize if that seemed redundant to the people who take the time out to aid people like me, but I assure I thank you all regardless of this point ^^ .
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good point. The price point on the KG has brought a flood of noobs who don't understand forum etiquette. And there are plenty of posts that offer bad help. I am like you and spent five days reading and bookmarking and rereading. Do all the root with adb and not the scripts is my best advice. Good luck.
Using Tapatalk on a Kindle Fire w CM7 ROM
Interested in re-rooting my KF. Did it a week or so after I first got it back in November, and having nothing of real note (for me), let the update unroot it.
Looking at things now, it's virtually impossible to determine (if you haven't kept up on a daily basis), exactly what is going on now. Many utilities claiming to root, make it easy to root, re-flash, recover, etc.
Could someone (or several someones) please put together a sticky or series of stickies that is kept up-to-date (and NOT allow posting to, so it is simply ONE post that is updated, and if there is some reason to have ancient history, the most recent info is at the TOP of that ONE post) that would cover the following:
What utility to use to root the KF
What utility to use for recovery, etc. (I assume TWRP)
What each of these utilities does, has, etc. (some seem to have more bundled in them, and at this stage, I can't tell who's got what bundled that does what and more importantly, WHY I want to use utility A over utility B)
Is there one utility that "has it all" and makes it pretty easy and goof-proof?
Updated status and ETA of CM9 or other Android 4.x ROM for the KF (Yes, I know the devs have said "don't bug me", but it's been quite a while now, and we still don't seem to have HWA for video on CM9/etc. So, a "rough" ETA? I'm a developer too, so I know these things aren't always exact, but are we a week/month/3 months/year/when pigs fly away from potentially having ALL of the HW supported on the KF with CM9? At least I can go away for a while, come back at some time when the ETA is supposed to be reached, and do a check)
While Amazon VOD was important to me at the beginning, I've been exclusively using Netflix, so I'm not sure if having the Amazon video disabled due to rooting is an issue to me anymore. But HWA is an issue for watching videos on Netflix or over my DLNA server at home.
The stickies need to be updated by the authors - NOT a reply to the thread the author of the utility started. This stuff is simply too time-consuming to wander through, and attempt to wonder if "idiot A" bricked his KF due to a bug in the utility, didn't follow instructions, or whatever 27 posts later. I'm looking for a direct "here's the utility, here's the instructions, here's why you want this over this" kind of thing.
Here's my 2 cents, take them for what they are worth.
In my opinion, Kindle Fire Utility is sort of the one stop shop for all things root/recovery/etc. and it has TWRP built in. It is super easy to use in my opinion and you can get burritoroot, firefirefire bootloader and TWRP all at one time.
Credit to vashypooh on a job well done.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399889
Hashcode and csholmq have been working with serial output, which probably offers the best chance of getting HWA working, etc.
csholmq issued and upate, but no ETA yesterday.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1471813
+1 to Yuma75.
I rooted with BurritoRoot, heavily modded the stock ROM, which was my daily for several weeks. I then used gscript to install CWM and FireFireFire and then installed Kang ICS ROM.
But for someone just starting out, KFU seems to be the way to go. I would have used it to install recovery, etc., but for user error (that is, my own). That's my two cents.
All of the developers come together to share their tricks, techniques and ROMs, often without compensation, and yet you think this "stuff is simply too time-consuming to wander through?"
If you don't have time to look through discussions, why are you on a forum?
There are already stickies and great utility threads, but if they aren't up to snuff, I think you should make one.
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All of the developers come together to share their tricks, techniques and ROMs, often without compensation, and yet you think this "stuff is simply too time-consuming to wander through?"
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No, I don't. What other site offers tools to root KF? None I'm aware of. If all I want to do is root the device....
Also - a dev posts "hey I've just got X and released it, here's the link", etc. Then I have 40-50 PAGES (not posts) of follow up. Some with problems, some just going "Ata boy!". Are there kernels of wisdom in there? Probably. But to follow through and separate the wheat from the chaff takes a LOT of time.
I've rooted before using KFU. Basically a 5 minute process. Why should I read pages of posts (not all of them even with the original post of the utility, etc.), to find out what I need? Post it in one location. Keep it up to date (things like, "oh, I forgot to upload the correct script, updated now" - updated in the original link in the original post? Updated at the web site shown in the original post? Updated in a following post somewhere?
Many of the "first posts" with links now point to dead download links. One would presume it is because the dev uploaded to something like RapidShare or the erstwhile MegaUpload, and either the link expired, or the dev killed it because there's a newer version. Do I really need to wade through dozens of posts to find the most recent D/L URL?
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If you don't have time to look through discussions, why are you on a forum?
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In this particular case? To get a utility to root a KF. I have no desire to develop on the platform, I've been developing on a great number of platforms for nearly 40 years, and have gotten more into the "I want it to work and use it", rather than "I love the struggle and fight to make something happen". So, I peruse the forum once every 3-4 weeks to see where things are - and without spending 3-4 hours perusing posts, questions, etc. it is not really possible. Sorry, I used to be one of those guys who would sit up for 2-3 days straight pulling things apart, coding in assembler, making "things dance". These days, I simply don't have the time - but would like to enjoy the fruits of a device that might be more open. Or might not. As I said before, I rooted within a week after getting the KF, using KFU. Played with it, and at the time, simply didn't see a point (other than saying "I did it"). So I let it die out. I'd very much like to try out Android 4.x to see if there's anything more - or I just leave it alone.
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There are already stickies and great utility threads, but if they aren't up to snuff, I think you should make one.
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Having been on forae for many, many years, and having worked with, made my own notes and posts regarding Linux since 1995 or so - sorry (and a great many other topics/forae). I've found in that time that the dev, or those working most closely with the dev are the only ones qualified with enough knowledge of not only what a utility does, but the thought and design behind it. Someone else attempting to step in, will simply "step in it" most of the time.
If the dev doesn't have documentation skills (and most devs don't), I'd encourage the dev to work with someone to help document and write up what their x does. I would presume that the dev has a desire for some praise and accolade for their efforts (otherwise why would they make their work public). By posting a sticky that is up-to-date and current, with correct (or corrected info), they help many others to partake of their works, even if the dev does not have their own web site (and I presume many don't since many don't point to their own website, but post a link to some file sharing service from within a post here).
I wasn't able to use KFU because I got the unsigned driver error and KFU wouldn't run correctly on my PC. But I have heard that it is a very good tool for someone that isn't good with adb.
Sent from my Kindle Fire using Tapatalk
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No, I don't. What other site offers tools to root KF? None I'm aware of. If all I want to do is root the device....
Also - a dev posts "hey I've just got X and released it, here's the link", etc. Then I have 40-50 PAGES (not posts) of follow up. Some with problems, some just going "Ata boy!". Are there kernels of wisdom in there? Probably. But to follow through and separate the wheat from the chaff takes a LOT of time.
I've rooted before using KFU. Basically a 5 minute process. Why should I read pages of posts (not all of them even with the original post of the utility, etc.), to find out what I need? Post it in one location. Keep it up to date (things like, "oh, I forgot to upload the correct script, updated now" - updated in the original link in the original post? Updated at the web site shown in the original post? Updated in a following post somewhere?
Many of the "first posts" with links now point to dead download links. One would presume it is because the dev uploaded to something like RapidShare or the erstwhile MegaUpload, and either the link expired, or the dev killed it because there's a newer version. Do I really need to wade through dozens of posts to find the most recent D/L URL?
In this particular case? To get a utility to root a KF. I have no desire to develop on the platform, I've been developing on a great number of platforms for nearly 40 years, and have gotten more into the "I want it to work and use it", rather than "I love the struggle and fight to make something happen". So, I peruse the forum once every 3-4 weeks to see where things are - and without spending 3-4 hours perusing posts, questions, etc. it is not really possible. Sorry, I used to be one of those guys who would sit up for 2-3 days straight pulling things apart, coding in assembler, making "things dance". These days, I simply don't have the time - but would like to enjoy the fruits of a device that might be more open. Or might not. As I said before, I rooted within a week after getting the KF, using KFU. Played with it, and at the time, simply didn't see a point (other than saying "I did it"). So I let it die out. I'd very much like to try out Android 4.x to see if there's anything more - or I just leave it alone.
Having been on forae for many, many years, and having worked with, made my own notes and posts regarding Linux since 1995 or so - sorry (and a great many other topics/forae). I've found in that time that the dev, or those working most closely with the dev are the only ones qualified with enough knowledge of not only what a utility does, but the thought and design behind it. Someone else attempting to step in, will simply "step in it" most of the time.
If the dev doesn't have documentation skills (and most devs don't), I'd encourage the dev to work with someone to help document and write up what their x does. I would presume that the dev has a desire for some praise and accolade for their efforts (otherwise why would they make their work public). By posting a sticky that is up-to-date and current, with correct (or corrected info), they help many others to partake of their works, even if the dev does not have their own web site (and I presume many don't since many don't point to their own website, but post a link to some file sharing service from within a post here).
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This isn't the place to go looking for a handout this is a place to read, search, read some more, learn to use a tool properly or risk bricking your device, your piss poor "I don't wanna search I just want it given to me" attitude isn't gonna get you far in these forums.Either suck it up and search to find what you want, or don't it's as simple as that. These devs do this for free, in their spare time and are nice enough to share their work with the rest of us. They do have jobs, families and lives outside of this forum and they aren't here to cater to you needing a handout. Plain and simple. If you even bothered to read to forum rules, rule #1 is SEARCH. If you want a handout I'd suggest going to another forum aside from XDA cause this isn't the place for you :-|
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