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Ok so I was looking online at the HTC site and see its says:
Network HSPA/WCDMA:
* Europe: 2100 MHz
* US:1700/2100 MHz
* Up to 7.2 Mbps down-link (HSDPA) and 2 Mbps up-link (HSUPA) speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
* 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
I honestly do not know what everything means but I know that ATT's 3G runs off of 850 and 1900....am I correct?
If I am then the ATT 3G should work correct? I am trying to figure this all out because I may pick a G1 up tomorrow with my little brothers account seeing that I am with ATT as of now in order to get the Touch Pro.
THANKS
No it will not work on att 3g
well i guess its not down to if I want a phone with no 3G?
Think its worth not having 3G?
No dude, get a phone with 3G. Honestly when I'm stuck in an EDGE area with my G1 it's too slow for me to do much more then IM and stuff, I almost always switch to my Sprint rev. a pda when out of 3G. Also, more and more services will come out that use 3G and you don't wanna get stuck behind the curve.
Valicore said:
No dude, get a phone with 3G. Honestly when I'm stuck in an EDGE area with my G1 it's too slow for me to do much more then IM and stuff, I almost always switch to my Sprint rev. a pda when out of 3G. Also, more and more services will come out that use 3G and you don't wanna get stuck behind the curve.
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I've had my G1 for two days now and I am in an edge area (no 3G). I'm sure it is alot slower than 3G, but my phone is fully capable of doing anything that it is suspose to. Loading a webpage takes less than 10 seconds. Loading apps from the Market have taken me less than a minute. I'd say this phone is very capable if only on Edge.
doctahjeph said:
I've had my G1 for two days now and I am in an edge area (no 3G). I'm sure it is alot slower than 3G, but my phone is fully capable of doing anything that it is suspose to. Loading a webpage takes less than 10 seconds. Loading apps from the Market have taken me less than a minute. I'd say this phone is very capable if only on Edge.
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I am also in an edge area (3G starts a few miles away). I cannot stream podcasts, but tbh the only time I find myself doing that is when I'm stuck at the airport. Websites load up quick enough...
Right now 3G coverage is only absolutely required if you are tethering or streaming media. I have wifi for my off time at home so no biggie. Now I know there will be some apps that will require that kind of bandwidth, but hopefully tmo will have expanded 3g to my area by then.
Hello,
I was just wondering if
HSDPA/WCDMA: Europe: 2100 MHz / US:1700/2100 MHz
means the G1 has both the frequencies for Europe and for the US
or it is sold in 2 Versions.
Does anybody know?
Thanks
rudoe said:
Hello,
I was just wondering if
HSDPA/WCDMA: Europe: 2100 MHz / US:1700/2100 MHz
means the G1 has both the frequencies for Europe and for the US
or it is sold in 2 Versions.
Does anybody know?
Thanks
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The G1 is dual-band UMTS; there's only one version.
A tip though, NEVER use frequencies to refer to UMTS bands; they're confusing and ambiguous. Always use the numbered bands.
AT&T uses bands II and V, T-Mobile USA uses band IV, and Europe uses band I.
The G1 supports bands I and IV.
All AT&T 3G phones support II and V, some support band I in addition.
Here's a good article listing the UMTS bands:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
There are NO phones to my knowledge which support BOTH bands IV and II or V.
What that means is that you can follow a simple rule, at least for the time being:
If it supports T-Mobile USA 3G, it doesn't support AT&T 3G.
If it supports AT&T 3G, it doesn't support T-Mobile USA 3G.
This topics has been discussed all over this forum:
G1 to use on AT&T
OTA updates on AT&T
Current ATT user, can I activate a G1?
I found way around intial setup screen!! AT&T Users
EDGE/GPRS/3G Questions/Issues/Info
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Have a great weekend all.
I live in the U.S. Virgin Islands.
We have AT&T wireless 850 band 3g.
I want to buy this phone but the idea of not being able to get 3g on it is scaring me.
I heard it has 850 band 3g built in but it is turned off by htc.
Is this true?
Do it have a crack?
Can you tell me what i can do?
There are 2 versions of this phone:
1) The T8282, which doesn't not have the 850 capability at all (not even crippled). This phone will not work at 3G speeds down there, if you're only on 850.
2) The T8285 (Telstra - Australia) version, which does have the 850 capability. You can find them on eBay - and they're generally a little more expensive. I live in the US - and own this version. The only problem I have in Chicago though is that AT&T also uses their 1900 frequency in many areas downtown. I only get Edge speeds down there, but as soon as I'm outside that area and close to an 850 tower, I get 3G speeds again.
Good luck!
It would not be the first time HTC did that.
Remember the touch diamond.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...30496&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_500wt_1154
$400 starting price on an auction does not = $400.
Just a starting price, if no one else bids, its 400.
11 hours left!
I think your 0 feedback may hurt your auction... usually you do a few purchasse to increase your feedback score, else people may think this is a fraud attempt...
Also you are selling a tri-band phone as if it was a 4 band phone... there's 2 version of it...
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - for AT&T, Rogers Wireless
Good price tho, but I already have a nexus
why not try craigslist for your local area. Sold two BB's in one day.
Good luck ...try lower starting bid if doesn't sell.
I made a new ebay account thats why I have no feedback yet.
My dad said I have to sell my nexus one for at least 400 if I want the G2.
Thanks for the advice, everyone. Hope it sells and I get my g2
I'm sorry if this is somewhere on the forum but I've searched here as well as do extensive searches on youtube and google and cannot get a solid answer.
My friend is stuck on AT&T with an iPhone 4 and wants to know if you unlock a MyTouch 4G can you get 3G speeds on it? The only reason we don't just get a full sim instead of micro and throw it in my Mytouch 4G is because he lives in an entirely different state.
any proof or just a solid answer with facts behind it would be appreciated, just trying to ditch an iPhone for Android.
MT4G supports:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
AT&T Network Provides:
AT&T’s 3G network listens for phones transmitting 3G traffic in the 850 MHz and 1900 MHz bands... so I'm thinking just 2G... the rest of the geniuses may provide more info...
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MT4G supports:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
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With this info maybe you can find out what signal ATT 3G is using and get a match??
AT&T uses 850 and 1900 for 3g... which MT4G is programmed to use for 2G data... without some kind of radio rewrite or something way beyond my level you should only get 2g on AT&T.... same reason you had to get an AT&T nexus one to get 3g on AT&T
T-Mobile - Nexus 1
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
AT&T / Rodgers - Nexus 1
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
see the 850 and 1900 with HSDPA on AT&T and not on Tmo... that's why it no worky
slhpss said:
AT&T uses 850 and 1900 for 3g... which MT4G is programmed to use for 2G data... without some kind of radio rewrite or something way beyond my level you should only get 2g on AT&T.... same reason you had to get an AT&T nexus one to get 3g on AT&T
T-Mobile - Nexus 1
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
AT&T / Rodgers - Nexus 1
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
see the 850 and 1900 with HSDPA on AT&T and not on Tmo... that's why it no worky
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this is what I don't understand, I've found video proof of the Samsung Vibrant running on AT&T 3G but it seems to have the same specs as the Mytouch 4G on the radio.
T-mobile Samsung Vibrant
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
I just don't understand how that works?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ByK72F29tE
best way to find out is to go Nike on that beast.... (just do it)
Vibrant has 1900 band as well
so, you could get AT&T 3g in any areas that's using 1900
to my knowledge, the MyTouch4g doesn't have 1900 band
AFAIK, vibrant is only smart phone out right now that will do ATT and Tmo 3g
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probably because samsung made the same phone 4 times... the two GSM phones probably have the same or very similar radio firmware.
Well guys, Im thinking about taking the plunge on this one. Im stuck on att right now and want a good android phone that has a flash camera so I have done my research and saw that the vibrant runs att 3g but lacks LED flash so im just going to take the plunge and get the mytouch and see what happens...
i can personally tell you that you wont be able to get 3g on the mytouch 4g. only edge (2g) via personal experience
the captivate will NOT use T-mo 3g the vibrant will use both....
and like i said i believe the vibrant is the ONLY smartphone (recently released) that will grab BOTH att and T-mo
d2 did you put up with the edge and use wifi as much as possible or go back to something else?
Brett523 said:
d2 did you put up with the edge and use wifi as much as possible or go back to something else?
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coming from tmobile's 4g to edge on att was KILLER. it was painfully slow. so i went back to tmobile.
yea thats what i figured, i have an iphone now on att and am used to being able to make calls on 3G and watch youtube videos, and if I get the mytouch all that goes away.
It won't work at all, you'll be stuck on Edge, and edge sucks, coming from a iPhone on T-Mobile with edge to the G2 then to the myTouch with HSDPA is like coming from a horse wagon to a Ferrari, and you're not going to like it at all.
Just come to the better data network and switch to t-mobile... maybe I'm spoiled I got a VZW and Sprint data stick in a cradlepoint router in my car and can do nav and WiFi calling when t-mo svc sucks...
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T-Mobile's network has gotten so much better, its crazy to think how much the carrier race has flopped around. AT&T was at one point at the top of the list. Now they are the only network without 4G.
T-Mobile is the android network, we have the best phones and the best selection of phones. I agree with Eskimo you should make the switch.
switch?
Currently debating whether to make the switch over to tmobile. Going to purchase a mytouch 4g tomorrow for $250 new in box. Currently using a vibrant which was only $160, I unlocked it for a local carrier with 3g services. LOVE the screen! and the very very few custom roms. Coming from a nexus one I was spoiled with the roms.
Anyways stuck on this...Unlock the mytouch 4g and use it on my current plan, and sell the vibrant or go ahead and make the switch to tmobile.
Current plan:
500 minutes, unlimited text & data $55 with tax.... wife is on this carrier and majority of my minutes goto her.
Tmobile
500 mintues, unlimited text & data $59.99 plus 12% discount.....
pros 4g...and could drop internet service at home save $30 with 4g (can do simple browsing with 3g still)
cons...mintues to wife....
I don't even get 3g with my mt4g with tmobile where I live
Hi guys..
This is my question: "What are the real problems without Band 20 (LTE FDD 800MHz (B20)) in daily use?"
I'm interested to purchase 6/128GB Chinese version.
I live in Italy, and my carrier is TIM... my 4G works on LTE FDD 800/1800/2600 (B3/B7/B20), and Chinese version has all bands except 800MHz (B20). Is this a real problem or not?
There is a method to know what is most important frequency in my area? I can't find one app that show my my actual band... i want try to test my S4 daily signal to write a map of most used frequencies in my area. Does anyone know what app i can use for this?
Depending on where you live and what you carrier is, you risk not having LTE.
EDIT : If you're living in the countryside, you "need" it.
Sorry but i've launched the thread after wrong click... i've edited the original post.
I know that i risk to lost 4G connection... and i don't want this!
But if i test my area's band, and 800MHz is the 1% of signal coverage.. the problem is solved! (800MHz is short range band, but strong enough to penetrate buildings, but i've ADSL )
ciko84xp said:
Sorry but i've launched the thread after wrong click... i've edited the original post.
I know that i risk to lost 4G connection... and i don't want this!
But if i test my area's band, and 800MHz is the 1% of signal coverage.. the problem is solved! (800MHz is short range band, but strong enough to penetrate buildings, but i've ADSL )
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If your area is well covered by band 3 and 7 then you don't really need it.
Band 7 : Short range, "bad" indoor signal, big capacity. Great if you live in some big town, with a lot of antennas.
Band 20 : Long range, good indoor signal, "little" capacity. Great if you live in the countryside, with fewer towers.
Band 3 : "between" the other 2.
Ok thanx man... now i need any app that help me to trace my signal, i want scan it in my daily use, to know how much time (and where) i really use 800MHz Band! Can u help me to find an appropriate app? Are three days that i try, but nothing, I can't find the right app.
ciko84xp said:
Ok thanx man... now i need any app that help me to trace my signal, i want scan it in my daily use, to know how much time (and where) i really use 800MHz Band! Can u help me to find an appropriate app? Are three days that i try, but nothing, I can't find the right app.
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Sorry, i only know of LTE discovery but it only gives you your current network...
djona12 said:
Sorry, i only know of LTE discovery but it only gives you your current network...
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It's just what i need... but unfortunately my carrier isn't supported... :crying:
This is the 1st app that i've tryed 2 days ago...
My carrier is TIM (Telecom Italia Mobile).
ciko84xp said:
It's just what i need... but unfortunately my carrier isn't supported... :crying:
This is the 1st app that i've tryed 2 days ago...
My carrier is TIM (Telecom Italia Mobile).
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It needs root. Or at least I once granted it root...
Check this
http://www.android-hilfe.de/thema/s...-lte-in-deutschland-info-sammelthread.747199/
Picture one is 800 MHz, second ome 1800 MHz and the last one 2600 MHz but this is Telekom (Mercedes). On Vodafone or Telefonica 95 to 100% is band 20/800 MHz.
In Italy you can check the provider homepage. 800 MHz is up to 50 Mbit/s, 1800 MHz up to 100 or 150 Mbit/s and 2600 MHz is the rest (300 Mbit/s and more).
djona12 said:
It needs root. Or at least I once granted it root...
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I've my personal CustomROM on...
Klanac89 said:
Check this
http://www.android-hilfe.de/thema/s...-lte-in-deutschland-info-sammelthread.747199/
Picture one is 800 MHz, second ome 1800 MHz and the last one 2600 MHz but this is Telekom (Mercedes). On Vodafone or Telefonica 95 to 100% is band 20/800 MHz.
In Italy you can check the provider homepage. 800 MHz is up to 50 Mbit/s, 1800 MHz up to 100 or 150 Mbit/s and 2600 MHz is the rest (300 Mbit/s and more).
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Yes i know the Band20 (800MHz) importance, but in the end i've found a way to know which band i really use in my town (I live in a small town with 60,000 people). Simply using a Service Mode (+#0011#) i can see the actual band in use, and with my great surprise, i only use Band3 (1800 MHz) on LTE and Band1 (2100 MHz) on UMTS!!! I've found Band20 only a few times, and for few seconds. Ex: in my house i use only Band3 (speedtest 75 or more Mbps everywhere in my house), in 2 days no Band20 (but in my house isn't a problem, i've the optical fiber...) - Using my car i've turned around the town, and all town is covered by Band3, even the sea area, on the beach only Band3 (speedtest 50 Mbps)!!! A little problem at my work, in my office i've found Band20 (LTE) and Band1 (HSPA), but Band20 with -115 Dbs and Band1 -90 Dbs, and after many speedtest with Band20 i've max 5 Mbps, and with Band1 max 10 Mbps (But i work in a police central and i've a tons of PC - Radios - and it's really full of interference)!
In conclusion the Band20 is not really important for me! I do other tests and after i decide!