Is it possible to grab the config/.apk files from the official xoom 3.1 rom to be able to gain functionality to our Iconia's?
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Good luck, I asked this question the day it came out, if anybody tried to back up some of the apks and apply them in 3.0. (Nobody answered it.)
I think most of the new USB host support functions are built into the kernel, which means we might need those files, and not necessarily the apks.
Hopefully someone will chime in this time.
Gamepad support will be coming in 3.1 anyway which is due in June... so I doubt anyone will be bothered trying to do this.
I know it'll be available with 3.1...I was just curious if anyone try to tinker with it in the past.
Chlballi
This waiting is killing me! Not having controller support is making my NES and SNES games more difficult
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If someone can/has figured this out I'll buy you a beer.
you can use a wiimote..
Actually, you can't:
forum%xda-developers%com/showpost.php?p=7388551&postcount=7 (account not allowed to post links yet)
It is unclear to me whether this is because the Captivate lacks HID profile support, or because as a BT 3.0 device there is some kind of incompatability (I have heard both).
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If someone can/has figured this out I'll buy you a beer.
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Sorry, never gonna happen. PS3 controller maybe but the 360 controller isn't BT, it uses a proprietary wireless standard.
Why Xbox or Playstation crap is way overpriced!
If you want to use your phone as an emulator that bad you might as well just pay the $10 for a cheapo BT controller. Don't you want something a lot smaller than a bigun PS3 or x360 controller, I'd think something micro would be better suited for travel.
Plus if you're going to be inside to use this (unless your TV is outside), why not just use a PC and out it at 1080 for the real deal? Or is it more for nostalgia
Cool factor only. But it would be neat if I could use the video out to the TV at the shore house and play a game on that. No PC at my shore house:-(
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Sorry, never gonna happen. PS3 controller maybe but the 360 controller isn't BT, it uses a proprietary wireless standard.
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But they also have wired versions that use USB. I don't have a clue about this at all, so I don't know if that's even remotely possible, just throwing one more idea out there. Not as pretty of a solution but if the USB could be sized down to micro and plugged in... Probably not, like I said, just throwing it out there. Would definitely be cool though.
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But they also have wired versions that use USB. I don't have a clue about this at all, so I don't know if that's even remotely possible, just throwing one more idea out there. Not as pretty of a solution but if the USB could be sized down to micro and plugged in... Probably not, like I said, just throwing it out there. Would definitely be cool though.
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Not really possible because the USB doesn't have host support. If someone could write it into the kernel it would be awesome but then there would be many driver issues to arise.
I would just opt for a mini BT gamepad, I am thinking of getting one and loading some old SNES games on my phone.
Wait... is there an actual mini BT game controller that works? I would simply buy one now. Can you point us?
The zeemote looks complicated, you would think a wireless bluetooth snes style controller without axis controls would be simple enough, although I know everyone wants the ps3 for its controls. But this would be an awesome start.
Hopefully with more buttons than the wiimote so snes games play decent.
I would just use the computer you are posting from for this kinda thing.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.13760
Some have modded these with a SNES controller. If I had any soldering skills I would try it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP8JgqmVES8
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Not really possible because the USB doesn't have host support. If someone could write it into the kernel it would be awesome but then there would be many driver issues to arise.
I would just opt for a mini BT gamepad, I am thinking of getting one and loading some old SNES games on my phone.
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Yeah, I kinda wondered about that, but like I said, I'm new to Android so I'm still learning what it can and can't do.
Still, a controller, especially wireless would be awesome to have. I have reason to believe from talking to someone involved that the Wiimote may not be totally out of the equation. Even if not on stock ROMs, custom ROMs may be able to make it work. I guess like everything else we'll just have to wait and see.
wiimote wont work with samsung phones. The developer of wiimote controller emailed me and said its because of the way samsungs added junk deals with bluetooth. Apparently they modify how bluetooth is dealt with from the stock android.
Hmmm... Interesting ideas.... I never even thought about a Bluetooth controller, that could possibly be the answer right there. Has anyone ever messed around with one? Would it be easy to set up with the captivate? Basically I just wanna be able to go over to my friends place and be like, "yo dudes, check THIS OUT!" And play old school games from my phone. More of a novelty than anything really.
illl try to set one up tomorrow and let you guys know if a reg bluetooth one will work with our 3.0. i remember hearing that it wont but i'll verify.
My understanding is that the galaxy S phones dont use the standard "BlueZ" stack. which is why it wont work.
Can anyone confirm if that bluetooth controller linked above from DealExtreme would work? So theoretically, a controller made for bluetooth 3.0 devices would work?
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Can anyone confirm if that bluetooth controller linked above from DealExtreme would work? So theoretically, a controller made for bluetooth 3.0 devices would work?
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It def. works with Android, but a paid drivers pack from the market is required. Now whether it works with the Galaxy S due to the different Bluetooth stack is the unknown part.
I am not sure how deeply the drivers interact with the bluetooth stack, and if they only work with the stock Android stack. I am planning on buying both the controller above and a SNES controller to mod for use with my PC, and phone if it works.
I am having trouble finding a SNES controller locally but I am told that I can get one on Monday from a buddy at my work.
Just checking to see if anybody has made progress on finding a controller for the captivate/galaxy s?
This is probably one of my most wanted features... get that wiimote working somehow.
Hello, I am looking for a kernel developer to create a PSGroove capable kernel for emulating a PS3 JIG to allow playing of homebrew on the PS3. It has been done on the EVO. As you can see here: http://github.com/kakaroto/PSFreedom/commits/master
Supposedly it should be easy, provided you have kernel experience.
Anyone up for it?
They have working versions for the desire, n1 and the evo 4g, so those should be good bases to get started with.
Don't take this the wrong way, but they are already working on it for the Dinc, why ask here when the people who got it working on phones already have it under control. Just give it a little bit of time, it will be here before you know it.
Don't try with the new ps3 update they fixed it so psgroove doesn't work
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Don't try with the new ps3 update they fixed it so psgroove doesn't work
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Don't worry, the PS3 I am using will never see the internets ever again!
their are several ways to one either downgrade the system update back to 3.41 on the ps3 as well as remain n the internet thru logans proxy tools or a private server running the same setup with no need to update to 3.42. no ps3's are getting banned at this point.
edit: im still running 3.30 on my ps3 so i have yet to even upgrade to 3.41 which i have saved on a thumb drive.
1. Being able to use the USB port to connect to the P.C. and being able to transfer information.
2. Gingerbread since Elocity is stating that Honeycomb is out for the A7 due to multitouch "This is a downer)
3. Better support from Elocity like a forum to talk about our issues to the support group since no one wants to respond to phone calls
4. This Tablet has great Hardware and the only one who is making a difference is Dexter who Elocity should owe great gratitude since he has spent numerous hours making it a better device.
5. Google to add tablet support to the market place
6. Nvidia to step up to the plate and help Google with getting updates out to the tablet users.
Please post anything else you would like to see with this tablet in the future updates so that Elocity will read it here since they won't respond to any calls.
Add to this wish list:
Cifs
USB 3g/4g support
Working WPA2 Enterprise
Hope some more people have more to say as this is being sent to Elocitynow.com
I would like to see them release the kernel source / patches. They're obligated to by the GPL, but they've flat out ignored all my questions about it.
Some people have reported that they were told that an nVidia contract prevents releasing it, but that can't be true. Maybe some specific nVidia drivers need to be kept closed but not the Linux Kernel.
Other than what has already been asked for I would like to see either the specs for the dock connection or some type of powered speakers that you could just drop our device into. I really think our device would make a really nice multimedia station.
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Other than what has already been asked for I would like to see either the specs for the dock connection or some type of powered speakers that you could just drop our device into. I really think our device would make a really nice multimedia station.
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I do think we will see a dock down the line. I believe it will share the same dock that will eventually be available for their new A7.x line (assuming that comes to fruition).
As for speakers... I personally doubt you'll see something from eLocity. Maybe a jack built into the dock. You could always just plug you computer speakers into the A7's audio jack.
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Other than what has already been asked for I would like to see either the specs for the dock connection or some type of powered speakers that you could just drop our device into. I really think our device would make a really nice multimedia station.
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OHH i like that... maybe some kind of app that turns the screen into a radio/mp3/alarm clock function that would also charge it... that could be leading to something...
Tether function like Archos tabs. While they're at it, make sure it works with Blackberry.
Mouse
Unless I'm doing something wrong, I cannot get a mouse cursor to show up when I use a mouse. Because the tablet has hdmi capability I would love to see a mouse cursor to show up on the screen to use it to navigate via bluetooth on the big tv
Customer support that actually responds back!
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Unless I'm doing something wrong, I cannot get a mouse cursor to show up when I use a mouse. Because the tablet has hdmi capability I would love to see a mouse cursor to show up on the screen to use it to navigate via bluetooth on the big tv
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The mouse cursor is not showing up. it works but it's like it wasn't designed actually have a little cursor running around the screen.
XBOX 360 PC Controller
There is a mod under the "Android Development" section that expands on Dexter's 1.1 mod. It allows for an XBOX 360 controller to be used. It works great on emulators. I am also able to move through icons, open programs, and open the search tab with the controller. If you had a wireless USB reciever for PC to use a 360 controller, then you could conceivably hook it up to the TV via HDMI and controll it from afar with a wireless 360 controller. Hope that helps!
We should focus on getting honeycomb working on the tablet ... I'm sure we can bypass that multitouch thing.
I agree, besides the Google Maps tilt function and Fruit Ninja, I didn't see anything in their demo today that screemed "hardware must have multi-touch"
No kernel source -> no roms -> no other things
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No kernel source -> no roms -> no other things
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We should then ask eLocity to give us what we need ... will help their sells and then try to port Honeycomb ...
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We should then ask eLocity to give us what we need ... will help their sells and then try to port Honeycomb ...
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Unfortunately, their tech-support didn't answer any questions. I read some topics - a lot of people did not receive anything from them.
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Unfortunately, their tech-support didn't answer any questions. I read some topics - a lot of people did not receive anything from them.
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It's pretty simple ... Dexter for exemple should ask with Mods permission, the right to access sources or eLocity shall remove XDA from their web site in the support page (http://www.elocitynow.com/support.shtml).
It's pretty stupid they rely on a community without providing the proper tools.
We should also ask for a buy back program so we can upgrade those 3-4 months tablet in a useless form for the new A7 that will run Honeycomb ...
The tablet was still a 300-350$ investment that led to ... nothing ...
I 100% agree, this has been like a $300 beta device, no matter how nice it is to have a Tegra powered tablet, if it can't run without major modding we've been hosed. I've managed to get regular Android Market(not new one) running on top of the 2nd official ROM by using Root Explorer to copy a ton of files to the /system/app folder...still not excited though.
Stream TV needs to setup an exchange program for the customers who purchased these headache tablets that forced us to become part-time programmers and get us at the least into the low-end new A7.x tablet. Maybe for difference in retail and with free shipping of new tablet and return shipping of old unreliable tablet(unless they're as tired of it as general public).
I am sure this has been asked before but does anybody know of a rom that has USB host support. I am trying to run an app for my camera and it requires this to work.
I'm on the same boat, trying to buy that application, but i have looked all over the internet but no definitive answer, looks like the droid incredible has the function, I wonder why they EVO would not, I think we are going to have to take a chance, if it works, great!! If it doesn't, we'll be out $15.
Its not the rom that gives the phone host support, its the kernal and many other factors that make it work. I don't think its going to ever be possible on the evo.
It will be a very cold day in a normally hot place before you see USB host. I tried, and it's not that the hardware won't support it, just no dev interest.
Hello everyone,
I have nothing even close to development knowledge, so I have no idea if and how this can be done. Seeing what you guys cook together here though, I am quite sure that what I request should be possible.
As most of you will know, Samsung has removed the USB Host APIs from it's newer firmwares. No one kows why, but a lot of SGS2 owners, including me, dearly miss that feature. (I need it for chainfires DSLR controller)
I love to flash the newest firmwares, am eager to see whats new, and want the improvements they bring. So what I'm asking for, is for someone to "extract" that usb host-functionality from older firmwares and put it in a (cwm flashable ?) package that enables the funktionality for any firmware.
Since our hardware supports it natively it should only be question of software/kernel, right? Would love to see this happening... would hate to flash back to an old firmware.
Any help welcome! Would buy people bringing a solution a beer! cheers
works fine for me on KI3...? I use the usb host function often to transfer photos to a usb for work..
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works fine for me on KI3...? I use the usb host function often to transfer photos to a usb for work..
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I don't really know how it works, but there seem to be different functioanlities. The new firmwares still are usb host enabled, which means you can still connect thumb drives, etc.. though as chainfire states here: http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/103/_SGS2_KI_Samsung_removes_USB_host_support_patches_bootloaders/ 3rd party aplications have been blocked from making use of this functionality.
no one?
...well I guess if it could be easily done chainfire would already be on it. please let me know if anything comes up!
there is a thread concerning this in the epic 4G forums. seems like they don't get usb otg at all, which is why that problem generates some more interest over there. chainfire himself contributes to their discussion. for everybody interested, let's follow what's going on over there. if they find a solution i'm sure we can apply it to the gs2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265221