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I apologize for not keeping the site up to date, I’m a slacker We also had a database issue and lost the last post about 6.0′s release, if you were wondering why it went missing.
6.1 is the current work-in-progress and is coming together nicely. There’s a few new features like touch-to-focus in the camcorder, dismiss notifications by swiping, kernel updates for most devices, and improved performance. There will also be support for a few new devices- Acer Liquid, HTC Wildfire and Samsung Vibrant. My eye is also on the new HTC phones that are about to get released like the G2.
A lot of people ask me about adding support for their phone, but we can only support phones that we actually own. The CM team is always looking for new hackers to join up with us to add support for their favorite device. Get in touch with me if you’d like to help.
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Our user base is approaching a quarter of a million users. This project has come a long way Thanks for all the support, we are only as strong as the community!
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Porting a vibrant rom to the captivate is not hard
no wayyyy this is finally coming to our cappy, i'd be beyond happy
Hate to sound like a douche, but is there anything in there (besides maybe some of the features of CM6.1) that we havent known for a long time? No release date, we know thier working on it, and we know they are working with the vibrant.
Well if you look here it still shows as in progress for version 6.0...They have said in the past that the vibrant won't be supported till 6.1 and then someone will still have to port it to the captivate..
https://spreadsheets.google.com/lv?key=0Aledx886TFpZdHdwNzNKZzJLczJjTnA5ekFWRzNxX2c&hl=en&authkey=CNf7ie8G
So I don't think we will be seeing anything soon...
so, i'm sure everyone will get a good laugh, because everyone talks about how this is the best thing about to come since sliced bread........
but what is SO great about this?
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so, i'm sure everyone will get a good laugh, because everyone talks about how this is the best thing about to come since sliced bread........
but what is SO great about this?
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Froyo! Plus lots of custom stuff.
well i knew it was based on 2.2....but the "custom stuff" is what i meant. What are some of the big things it does that are so great
I'm new to the whole Android scene so excuse my ignorance but can someone explain how CM6.1 can possibly be put on a GalaxyS phone when there is no source code for the kernel?
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I'm new to the whole Android scene so excuse my ignorance but can someone explain how CM6.1 can possibly be put on a GalaxyS phone when there is no source code for the kernel?
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The other custom roms seem to use the 2.1 kernel.
I checked that spreadsheet about 3 weeks ago, and it was still in development like it is now for the vibrant.
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well i knew it was based on 2.2....but the "custom stuff" is what i meant. What are some of the big things it does that are so great
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Its not really about a wealth of extra features. Cyanogenmod has extra configurability. In addition it is a bit more cohesive than typical roms. I definitely preferred it over the stock Nexus One rom and the stock nexus one rom is better than stock Captivate.
The rapid updates and support is enough for me to use Cyanogenmod.
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The other custom roms seem to use the 2.1 kernel.
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But 6.1 is Froyo, all the ROMs I've seen are Eclaire... How are they using a 2.1 kernel with Froyo?
I was under the impression the reason for no Froyo ROMs on the Captivate was due to lack of source from Samsung?
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Who needs this when we have cognition?!
designgears said:
Who needs this when we have cognition?!
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exactly
designgears said:
Who needs this when we have cognition?!
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i'm sure when this comes out you'll be able to strip the FroYo out of it and make it your own, and better
CM6.1 will come to the captivate after is released to the vibrant, kernel differences are minimal between the two so porting CM6.1 to the captivate will only require few kernel changes.
yeah i'm sure the port will be done in the time it takes to heat up a pop tart.
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Who needs this when we have cognition?!
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+1 Finally got my Cappy right where I want it. CM is awesome, I'm just tired of all the hype, not to mention the waiting for this stuff to happen.
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Who needs this when we have cognition?!
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Everyone who is waiting to use Voice Actions, Chrome-to-phone, and any other cool 2.2-only apps.
Yeah, like real Flash or having the speed boost of the JIT compiler.
Any chance of a vanilla rom?, no Samsung software, no themes, just plain old regular Google Android?. I dont care if its 2.1 or 2.2, I had a very nice vanilla rom on my Droid X, and I miss that. As it is I hate this phone intensely due to the lack of finding a Vanilla rom.
Does vanilla exist?
no the rom is not functional yet, but why don't you just apply the aosp theme
Super Clean, adw, asop theme. About as close as you'll get at the moment. It works well and looks stock.
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Jt's super clean and aosp theme by retro kid is what I use.
The feeling I've gotten is that it takes a ton of work to make AOSP (vanilla) run on this device, making sure drivers work etc. There's not a whole lot of reason for them to make all that effort when 2.2 is around the corner. Once 2.2 and its source are released I think we will see an AOSP rom, but not likely before. As the others suggest try a rom like blackhole and go with an aosp like theme.
Actually, there are a lot of really cool functions that you lose if everything was aosp
Should not be in the development forum.
As far as vanilla android, its being worked on but right now there are no developments. Samsung hacked together the RIL used to communicate with the cell radio from a 1.5 device to work with our device, not easy to work with
If the new update is not out, well the sad truth is we will not see 2.2 for a long time. Ive swapped my phone out so many times Verizon has given me the choice of choosing a different phone.
I might have to move on myself...ive given android enough time to tickle my fancy. And im just sad the developers just dont want to make decent apps. Its so weird that a phone with such great specs as the galaxy s just isnt supported by devs, the carriers or even samsung. There has to be much more of a problem with the phone than we actually know about.
It is supported by developers. Very much so. However they cannot work with the garbage code,and this 1.5 ril bull****.
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Edit: noticeit says sent from my ADR6300? Tired of waiting.
I wasnt really talkin about the Hacking Community Devs. I meant Market Devs, carriers and manufacturers. Hacking community can only do so much!
BTW off topic did anyone see how Microsoft is workign together with HACKING DEVS? Smart move , good for them.
Did you see that the big hack was for a whopping custom ringtone? Damn. Go Microsoft. Hack in a song that plays when someone called. I've only had that functionality for the past 5+ years.
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The windows phone 7 unlocker was pulled because Microsoft is supposedly going to and the option of enabling homebrew on windows phones. Supposedly of course.
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The windows phone 7 unlocker was pulled because Microsoft is supposedly going to and the option of enabling homebrew on windows phones. Supposedly of course.
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Far from. Microsoft is in no way supporting hackers they just aren't taking an Apple stand against it. Go google the article they basically tell you if you mess up your device you're on your own. Same story different wording. Microsoft will never enable homebrew. Think about their history.
Actually they jailbroke wp7 then microsoft got together to work with them on opening restrictions.... very cool move!!!
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BTW if you use custom roms and root your android phone.........your on your own also!!! Warrenty is dead!!
Noone gives you warrenty when you alter the software. NOONE! But i think its a great move by microsoft.
I personally have alot of respect for microsoft. I think that windows phone 7 is a great product.
BTW we are way off topic haha.
Let me start by saying I'm fairly new to Android, and that this probably should go in a general Android forum, but since I'm a Fascinate user, this seems appropriate to me. I've searched, but haven't found a real explanation, and I'm not one to take things as fact without a reasonable explanation.
So it seems like everyone is waiting for an official 2.2 release for the Fascinate, flashing 2.1 ROMs but not capable of upgrading to 2.2+; but I'm wondering why we can't just compile our own OS for our phones? Android is a Linux-like OS, and I know Linux users would never stay on an old version if a newer (better?) version was available. I'm talking down-and-dirty tweak-every-option-by-hand Slackware here. Is the source available for download? If so, why can't we do something with it? Is something in the phone completely locked and unhackable? Is it the fear of having a $500 paperweight? Is it difficult to regain Verizon network connectivity?
Again, forgive the noob question, and thanks in advance for any help you can give me!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792986
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883004
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882946
There is currently work being done by jt, birdman, and the other skew of developers trying to develop a working AOSP version of 2.2/2.3. The biggest struggle that they have encountered was the RIL (Radio Interface Layer) binaries. Samsung produced some bogus complex proprietary binaries with no properly working source code. Because this phone is CDMA and not GSM, we can't simply use galaxy s files.
Anyways, the point is that there is work being done to bring it to our phone. They have a working AOSP 2.1 that is currently in alpha stage. Jt basically built his own RIL for this phone to get it working.
If this RIL works, we may end up with 2.3 sooner than later.
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Let me start by saying I'm fairly new to Android, and that this probably should go in a general Android forum, but since I'm a Fascinate user, this seems appropriate to me. I've searched, but haven't found a real explanation, and I'm not one to take things as fact without a reasonable explanation.
So it seems like everyone is waiting for an official 2.2 release for the Fascinate, flashing 2.1 ROMs but not capable of upgrading to 2.2+; but I'm wondering why we can't just compile our own OS for our phones? Android is a Linux-like OS, and I know Linux users would never stay on an old version if a newer (better?) version was available. I'm talking down-and-dirty tweak-every-option-by-hand Slackware here. Is the source available for download? If so, why can't we do something with it? Is something in the phone completely locked and unhackable? Is it the fear of having a $500 paperweight? Is it difficult to regain Verizon network connectivity?
Again, forgive the noob question, and thanks in advance for any help you can give me!
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You obviously have not searched hard enough, as this has been discussed in many places. I would suggest you start by searching this forum (edit: or seeing the links and posts above).
I will say, however, that recent achievements by (edit: the developers mentioned above) have made your suggestion quite possible. If you want to get a taste of what is to come, see the aosp alpha sticky located in the development section. The rom still has bugs, but it is a giant step forward for the Fascinate.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792986
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883004
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^^^^^
10char
I must add/point out that the work these guys are doing could easily pave the way for Cyanogenmod- and other well-featured roms to be compiled/ported and used on Fascinate as well.
I've read the above links, but they didn't really quite answer my question. I guess I'm wondering why a Linux-based OS isn't acting/being treated like a Linux-based OS.
Let's say I go out and buy a new computer today. I want to put Linux on it. I get the machine home, download my distro of choice and make an install cd. As I'm installing, I configure the installation either for my specific hardware or I can use a generic profile if my hardware isn't listed.
Now say a new version of the Linux kernel comes out. I can upgrade without having to wait for a version for my hardware. Or if I install MyDistro v1 when I get my machine, and MyDistro v2 comes out the next day, I don't have to wait for someone to develop a version to work with my hardware.
So my question is more of a why can't we upgrade our distro like other Linux variants? Is it because there's no generic replacement for the Samsung RIL? If I were to download the source and do a generic build, or even a specific one, I wouldn't be able to install it because...?
Sorry to be a pain, but I genuinely have no clue. Again, thank you for the insight!
2.2 will boot on the I500 just nothing works. If you would like to help http://opensource.samsung.com/
The source code can be found there. Please feel free to help the development along.
I suggest you read through the reply's to your question and pay special note to those bringing up the RIL as that seems to be the biggest hurdle right now.
I think maybe the answer you are looking for is that it is possible to do it, it's just extremely difficult because Samsung's open source is very shoddy and isn't based on AOS, which is what is used for most other phones.
Since the developers don't have a build that works, they have to work from the ground up with AOS and get every last feature on the fascinate working without using Samsung's code (TouchWiz, widgets, etc).
The links they gave you explain most of it but you have to sift through the posts. There is a dev named jt (amongst others) who is working on a ROM that is upgradable based on AOSP and it looks very promising.
edit: It's also worth noting that when I say "not based on AOS" I mean that it is proprietary software used by Samsung-only phones and is not coded by Google. It still, of course, is based on Android OS. It would be akin to a ROM coded by Samsung for their phones rather than generic ROMs that could be downloaded by other phones.
Perfect, thanks!
Try thinking of it as buying an Ubuntu laptop from dell. Sure its " Ubuntu" but not stock. It so full of bloat and badly written drivers that aren't supplied openly for the user that it would be hell trying get the latest version of ubuntu to run on it.
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For clarification.... so I can wrap my brain around this. Is this situation kinda like having bought a new computer that's running an os, but has no installed device drivers and nowhere to download them from, so they have to be written by hand?
Edit: that last post came thru while I was writing this one, I think it basically answers my question...
So what the devs on here are trying to do is develop a "generic" profile that can work on our phone (as well as others?), creating a solid base to allow users to upgrade and change at-will without having to wait for official releases?
See, that's the part I'm having a hard time with. No generic profile built into the OS to use in the absence of a hardware specific one?
LoverBoyV said:
Try thinking of it as buying an Ubuntu laptop from dell. Sure its " Ubuntu" but not stock. It so full of bloat and badly written drivers that aren't supplied openly for the user that it would be hell trying get the latest version of ubuntu to run on it.
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On a sidenote, I bought a Dell netbook witih Ubuntu. Didn't waste time with Ubuntu, but I chose it because I didn't want MS to get money from a license fee. Installed Mac OS X on it the day it arrived
Ya know, I tried to do the same thing with my inspiron 1525 notebook, with snow leopard 10.6.3 since I have a spare hard drive. Spent a whole day with numerous guides, trying this n that. Got it to actually boot to the desktop once, bit as I was putting the drivers in, it went into KP and from that point on, I could never even reinstall back to the desktop again.
Well, Samsung is giving us a simple/reliable update to Froyo with unique functionality, as soon as possible.
Source: (Twitter, About 12pm 1/2/2011 from Samsungtweets via Cotweet - http://twitter.com/Samsungtweets/samsung-usa )
Samsungtweets We are working to make the Android 2.2/Froyo upgrade available to all U.S Galaxy S owners as soon as possible.
Samsungtweets We want Galaxy S owners to have simple/reliable upgrade. We r running tests due to complexity/unique functionality
EDIT: gave more specific time and source of tweets. Post is meant to be objective, without definition of ASAP for this context.
Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.
soba49 said:
Well, Samsung is giving us a simple/reliable update to Froyo with unique functionality, as soon as possible.
Source (Twitter, 6 hours ago):
Samsungtweets We are working to make the Android 2.2/Froyo upgrade available to all U.S Galaxy S owners as soon as possible.
Samsungtweets We want Galaxy S owners to have simple/reliable upgrade. We r running tests due to complexity/unique functionality
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I'm not sure if this is meant to be funny or not haha. Are those recent tweets?
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They seem to post the same things over and over, of course this is also because people constantly ask when is froyo coming, and every time they say there is no definite date. It is coming soon that that is all they will say; yelling, moaning and crying isn't gonna make it come any sooner, just sit back and it will eventually come.
My cousin recently put his Streak to rest because he upgraded to the Motorola Atrix, he was saying how the Streak became the forgotten golden child. I was thinking why not Spam Cyanogen on Twitter and ask for Streak development? Maybe someone would be bold enough or kind enough to offer him a an old Streak to work on? Long shot but I don't think it would hurt to try.
Just trolling out loud is all lol
http://twitter.com/cyanogen
cyanogenmod is overrated imho
aaronv89 said:
cyanogenmod is overrated imho
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As Much as I miss Cyanogenmod on my HTC ARIA I would not trade it for for my Simple streak 1.2!
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. . . . because he upgraded to the Motorola Atrix, . . . .
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I would not call anything with MotoBlur an upgrade.
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I would not call anything with MotoBlur an upgrade.
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atrix is beast tho
Don't spam Cyanogen, they are willing to make rom for Streak (actually DJ_Steve tried it), but nobody can because we don't have all drivers for Dell Streak (audio driver was not released and Dell won't release it in the future).
But if you want to spam something, check this:
http://www.ideastorm.com/ideaView?id=087700000008XYuAAM#comments
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I would not call anything with MotoBlur an upgrade.
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+1. Motoblur is the worst android coding I've ever seen. It doesn't even run well on many dual core phones.
Revin said:
Don't spam Cyanogen, they are willing to make rom for Streak (actually DJ_Steve tried it), but nobody can because we don't have all drivers for Dell Streak (audio driver was not released and Dell won't release it in the future).
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CM7 isn't overrated, its AOSP with tweaks, built-in overclocking settings, status-bar tweaks, unlock screen tweaks, DSP manager, all built from source, no bloat, very fast and compatible... nothing to not like about it.
As far as audio drivers not working, Fards seems to have it working just fine in his fork of the 'alpha' gingerbread source code that Dell released, so I'd say that's patently false... Although his kernel is still quite buggy (certain sensors not working, wakelock issues, etc)... I'd say his kernel fork is probably the closest thing to getting CM working on our Streaks.
The work Fards/AWD_Maniac have done is phenomenal, that being said, I have no idea how much work would need to be done to make the kernel work with a CM7 userland.
*edit*, the Atrix blows, also being obnoxious never got anyone anywhere.
I too think that Fards/AWD_Maniac did great job, but just check the forums with CM6.1 alpha and MIUI alpha from DJ_Steve. He stopped the development because audio was not working and he needed audio drivers for Dell. I believe, that if there will be some way he will make it. I am not sure if you can make driver for something you know nothing about and without support.
But of course it will be nice to have CM/MIUI for our devices.
Anyway, please comment and vote, if you check page 3/4, there are people asking for Gingerbread. Actually Amy from Dell wrote on twitter that who wants Gingerbread should vote/post there:
http://www.ideastorm.com/ideaView?id=087700000008XYuAAM#comments
So I am asking everyone - please go there and give there as many votes as possible. Create another accounts, ask your friends etc.
We can have at least Gingerbread officially!
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I too think that Fards/AWD_Maniac did great job, but just check the forums with CM6.1 alpha and MIUI alpha from DJ_Steve. He stopped the development because audio was not working and he needed audio drivers for Dell. I believe, that if there will be some way he will make it. I am not sure if you can make driver for something you know nothing about and without support.
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Maybe you're not getting what I'm saying, Fards is already compiling kernels for gingerbread... FROM SOURCE, even if binary blobs are being used for audio libraries, they were compiled for Linux kernel 2.6.35, the version needed by GB. I don't think this is a stumbling block for anyone anymore since we now have a working kernel from source for gingerbread.
It seems that DJ_Steve never had too much luck compiling the Android userland for the Streak, in fact, I don't think anyone really has, except for those TERRIBLE MIUI/CM ports, but I'm thinking even those were binary rips. All the Streakdroid versions (sans 2.0.0) used pre-compiled files from official dell builds for the Android userland.
No flames please. If you like WP7 and think Android is crap then do not read or respond to this thread.
On the other hand, if you like the DVP but think the hardware is garbage then read on.
I've been spearheading an effort to get Android ported over to the DELL Venue Pro. I'm no developer or hacker, but I am trying to keep things organized and focused.
Here is my thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13920817
Now, Dell Streak 5/7 developer extrodinare is willing to try his hand and the DVP. He's not promising anything other than a best effort, but that's all we can ever ask of any community dev.
Anyone interested in helping, please let me know.
-Martin
Sent like a Streak of Light from Spidey, my Dell Streak 5
Am interested in seeing andriod on my dvp.. Bring it fast..
figured it's coming. DVP already got an android cousin to begin with.
why ruin something that works? I have had every dell device with android and it doesn't hold a candle to windows phone...
i would think more people would want a port of windows to the streak and venue
This would be interesting to see. As much as I like WP7 I wouldn't mind having the ability to switch between the two. Also, if he can get it to work maybe the method used can help with further development for WP7 stuff on DVP's.
Krad said:
why ruin something that works? I have had every dell device with android and it doesn't hold a candle to windows phone...
i would think more people would want a port of windows to the streak and venue
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Please read my original post and please don't be a troll.
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i am in if its dual boot..love win phone and like android too..would be really nice to be able to use both...
I face the following problems mentioned below. Except this windows rocks. If these issues are solved than its gr8.
1)USSD.
2)Bluetooth File transfer.
dishant.shahani said:
I face the following problems mentioned below. Except this windows rocks. If these issues are solved than its gr8.
1)USSD.
2)Bluetooth File transfer.
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i had the first problem too...but after all the updates, ussd runs fine now...
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i had the first problem too...but after all the updates, ussd runs fine now...
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which update solved this problem?? please tell me..
it was after the mango update on my dvp...can run ussd now fine..
Willing to help how I can
I already PM'd DJ Steve about this but Ill put it public here as well. Through a non-profit license my org has access to up to 200 units DVP's at $30 each.
NOTE: I AM NOT/ WILL NOT/ CAN NOT SELL THESE PHONES TO ANYONE
If it will help the process, or even just get it going- I could be willing to distribute.. I dunno, 5 or 10 of these to any developers that DJ Steve deemed worthy, or to him to distribute as needed.
No scheme, just that these would be REALLY useful to my organization if we could get them running Android - as Windows phones... ttheyre basically just $30 cameras and Skype phones as far as our needs are concerned.
heres the techsoup link if there are any other Non-Profits interested> ** I cant post links yet but its on the techsoup.org website under products>Dell. **
I dont know all the legal aspects of it, but if there are professional developers out there interested, it may even be possible for you to donate your 'time' as a Charitable Donation (ie tax write-off) - Again Im not a lawyer and that proposition might be completely unlawful, its just a thought- one that I will look into if anyone is interested.
LETS DO THIS!
-PK
DJ_Steve has been out of action for nearly a year, so he doesnt really have time to do anything dev related, much less hack bootloaders for the VP.
Do you have any VPs that are using old versions of WP7? (that wernt flashed with the FFU that is floating around?).
We are missing the URLs for unbranded VPs and the WP7 community as a whole is missing urls for the 8779 update.
Hypothetically if the bootloader was changed, I would assume it would more or less work the the V's roms, since they're like 99% identical hardware wise.