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Mods please delete this post, this didn't turn out at all how I wanted it to. I wasn't trying to get a new phone from anyone or anything like that, sorry I came off that way. I also wasn't trying to make any monetary gain. I just shot this thread up real quick before I went somewhere today and I obviously didn't think about how it would be perceived to everyone.
Are you kidding me, you come here and ask us to pitch in money to buy you a phone?
Please go back to the other side. We support our own developers and moderators who put in countless time and energey to develop, publish, and
answer. This is who we should support, and don't always properly do so.
And they don't come with their hands out telling us if we give them this, they will do that.
Go back to you little site and quit trolling here.
So you want us to buy you a phone so you can review and post about kernels/roms/boot animations on your Comcast At Home site?
I mean....we do this here for free... I'm not sure exactly what service you offer, but other than putting out an opinion that is probably incredibly biased by your personal taste....doesn't seem like anything anyone would be interested in...
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This looks like something xda frowns upon, and why would we buy you a new phone. I will gladly donate and help developers who bricked there phones to help the community. But this is like a homeless person begging for money..
Donating to get a review of stuff, uh no...
are there people out there stupid enough to fall for this?
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are there people out there stupid enough to fall for this?
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Not anyone here, almost everyone here, is someone intelligent, or maybe not..
Wait, I got a great idea, why don't y'all buy ME another Epic, then I will travel all around taking pictures of the donated Epic with my Epic, then I will post them to my new, slightly unknown website!
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wow. . .
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Come on, people, be nice. It never hurts to ask.
At the same time, if what you're asking is ridiculously laughable, then...well...never mind. Carry on, people, until the thread's deleted. This might prove fun for an otherwise boring work day.
Sure, I'll gladly reciprocate if you don't mind first contributing towards the needed hardware for my website soon to be called porsche911review.net
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TO BE CLEAR sky deaner is the village idiot at the evo boards..
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Will someone chip in so I can start a 60inchplasmareview.com website?
Seriously dude, nobody's going to buy you a phone so you can "review" it and put links to roms and stuff on your free Comcast website. If you were a developer, and wanted to help the community, maybe.
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stuff on your free Comcast website.
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This is what gets me....hell Domains are CHEAP, hosting is CHEAP. As many hits as you don't get a day, you could probably run a site for less than $50 a year.
Wow, I didn't mean to offend anyone, I just can't afford the phone to do the testing on, so I thought I would throw it out there. If someone I knew had the phone I would just borrow it from them every time a new kernel dropped for updating. Mods can remove this thread, offending people was the last thing I wanted.
$450? The hell?
Look on Craigslist, in my area Evo and Epic 4G's go for around $200-250
Edit: Not to mention that you could get one with a bad ESN for even less.
That reminds me, I wonder if my Angelfire website is still around.....
The following is crossposted from the midNIGHT ROM threads.
I'm not sure if Rob posted anywhere here yet, but as per his Twitter feed, he's having to make some sacrifices as a parent and is selling his Epic and extras on eBay. Unfortunately, this also means that he will no longer be developing for right now.
On behalf of myself, all of ACS, and the userbase at large, I'd like to thank Rob (ptfdmedic) for everything he's contributed to the Epic community, and all of the time and effort he's put in, in his already busy schedule and hectic life. Our very best wishes are with he and his family.
I and ACS fully support Rob's mission to spread autism awareness. I would like to encourage everyone who has not yet added an awareness banner to your signature to do so now, whether Rob's version, or the version in my signature, by ZHkilla.
But don't just toss up a banner and call it a day - if Rob has taught us anything, it's that autism is a disease that we the public really must understand better. Read the Wikipedia article, read Rob's blog, and keep in mind the challenges that parents of autistic children, and autistic individuals themselves face. Understand that those on the spectrum are people first and foremost, and that while they may be a little different, they deserve all the respect that any decent human beings deserve.
Once again, thank you Rob, for your generous donation of time and effort to making our phones run better, making this community more harmonious, and raising autism awareness. I didn't mean to steal your thunder if you were planning on making an announcement here as well as Twitter... but I wanted to say a few words anyway.
+1000...Thank you!
Thank's Rob.
Rob, thank you for everything you have done here for all of us and for always doing it with class and a huge heart. All the best to you and your family.
I read your blog a while back on The Man with Bare Hands and it really touched me. I never got around to posting a banner but will do so when I get home tonight. Best wishes.
Man that really sucks. I don't post here often but I check in on xda every time I have a free minute. You guys are all great at developing but ptfmedic has always stood out to me not just because of his roms but because he always seems to be very helpful and very patient with the questions around here. Genuinely seems like a great guy. I have also followed his blog on many occasions and yes a lot of it is vey touching. If he has to go I'm sure he will be missed by many.
My question is (without knowing any details about his situation) Is there enough members in the Epic forums to make a one time say $5 or $10 donation to a save ptfmedics Epic fund. Seems like he goes through a lot on a daily basis and that phone could be his only outlet. I hope I am not out of line even suggesting this but I hate to see such a valued member of this community have to leave.
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Thanks,donation sent,wish it could be more...
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This sucks . hate to see you go Rob.
You will be missed bro.
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+1 on that one I have the Midnight Rom on my phone. I respect his decision. Is he broke or does he have to spend more time taking care of his family or both?
Thank YOU ROB!!! Will miss your work! Wish you and your family good luck! Stay strong!
Rob, dude. Thanks for everything! I have been running your ROM every since release. You are very talented bro and hope to see you in my next phone venture when things get better.
Wanted to add my thanks. Much respect Rob.
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A sad day for XDA
Rob,
Thank you for everything you've done for my phone and things you have taught me about life while reading your blog. I wish you and your family all the best.
THANK YOU
Thanks, k0nane
I also started the same type of thread over at ppcgeeks as well.
If k0nane still needs a phone maybe everyone could donate to a "buy Rob's phone for him" fund and kill two birds with one stone.
The head Chef of ACS doesn't have an Epic?
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The head Chef of ACS doesn't have an Epic?
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I've been going through the roundabout process of getting a new one for quite some time now. I should have one within the next week. Up until about 4/5 I'd had one since launch.
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+1 on that one I have the Midnight Rom on my phone. I respect his decision. Is he broke or does he have to spend more time taking care of his family or both?
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Read his blog. It will give you a huge insight into his life and the daily battles he goes through. I've been lucky enough to be on his beta test team since version 2.6. In that time I got to know him as a person and not just as a member of the forums and rom chef, and for that I feel like I've been very lucky.
Thank you Rob.
Rob... your a really inspiring guy, you like too please everyone and use your free time to do this for us when you already do so much for your family... I never knew much about autism untill you opened my eyes and when I read your blog I see how much stress you go through and your about the nicest guy I've talked to... hope to see you around when you can get a new phone, thanks for all the work you've done for this community (this post probably doesn't have that great grammar, sorry)
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Well I just wanted to day "Thank You" to all of the developers,themers,etc. It seems like lately people in this community are really sharing info without problem. Now, maybe that's always been the case but its being seen in the threads more. There have been some great ROMs, kernels, mods, themes,etc. coming out lately. It seemed like we hit a wall after Dk28 but now there seems to be something new and spectacular every day. Keep up the fantastic work and delivering on the greatness.
Now, on to those who post. Thanks to those who take the time to help answer questions, post a link, or even better a zip. I am sure it gets frusterating to the XDA All Stars when the Rookies don't know all the rules. Its easy to say go back and read but sometimes threads are 1000 pages and Search sends you all over the place. If you take the time to actually post the answer instead of posting to read the last 42 pages itss been said, it may actually help you. One day you may have a question ar be looking for a file or zip and instead of someone telling you to hit "Search", they may just post it for you right there. Not everyone knows every XDA forum rules...but everybody learns and I am sure XDA doesn't want people being chased off by someone snapping on/flaming them for not knowing a rule. It may be their 1st or 2nd time here.
In closing, I have noticed and overall better attitude/vibe among not only developers but those of us who just post as well. Things seemed to be dying for a little while and now there a great ROM, Theme, or Tweak on here every day or two. So, the future looks bright! Thanks to those who develop,theme, make mods, are testers and to the helpful question answerers. This is actually a pleasant forum to come to now. Of course the trolls are another story altogether.thanks for taking the time to read is, I just felt it was necessary. Too much hotness being released lately.
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Well I just wanted to day "Thank You" to all of the developers,themers,etc. It seems like lately people in this community are really sharing info without problem. Now, maybe that's always been the case but its being seen in the threads more. There have been some great ROMs, kernels, mods, themes,etc. coming out lately. It seemed like we hit a wall after Dk28 but now there seems to be something new and spectacular every day. Keep up the fantastic work and delivering on the greatness.
Now, on to those who post. Thanks to those who take the time to help answer questions, post a link, or even better a zip. I am sure it gets frusterating to the XDA All Stars when the Rookies don't know all the rules. Its easy to say go back and read but sometimes threads are 1000 pages and Search sends you all over the place. If you take the time to actually post the answer instead of posting to read the last 42 pages itss been said, it may actually help you. One day you may have a question ar be looking for a file or zip and instead of someone telling you to hit "Search", they may just post it for you right there. Not everyone knows every XDA forum rules...but everybody learns and I am sure XDA doesn't want people being chased off by someone snapping on/flaming them for not knowing a rule. It may be their 1st or 2nd time here.
In closing, I have noticed and overall better attitude/vibe among not only developers but those of us who just post as well. Things seemed to be dying for a little while and now there a great ROM, Theme, or Tweak on here every day or two. So, the future looks bright! Thanks to those who develop,theme, make mods, are testers and to the helpful question answerers. This is actually a pleasant forum to come to now. Of course the trolls are another story altogether.thanks for taking the time to read is, I just felt it was necessary. Too much hotness being released lately.
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What's this? A positive thread? Not sure what do with this..
Nicely put and your right we are playing much nicer together. I'm proud of everyone. Thanks for posting this
Had to hit the thanks, as it is nice to see a supportive thread here!
Come on guys let's show some love to a positive thread.
I must admit. It is a breath of fresh air. Thanks. I have been guilty of being short and sarcastic with some of my responses. I will be better. Promise. Everyone that has contributed to the community: thanks.
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I've never heard of a Thanks thread in any forum i've ever visited D=
I agree with John. Thank you everyone!!!
+1 on a great thread,and thanks to everyone on the epic forum,I feel more and more like we are a family everyday...
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You should have searched. This has been posted before.
And you posted in the wrong section you dumb ****. Now gtfo
All kidding aside thank you for noticing this and pointing it out.
Typed from a man on his phone while flying a plane heading towards the samsuck corprate office.
Well, time for some negativity... Has anyone noticed that the overall vibe improved after a few individuals departed?
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herzzreh said:
Well, time for some negativity... Has anyone noticed that the overall vibe improved after a few individuals departed?
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noobnl? Well yeah, of course.
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noobnl? Well yeah, of course.
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Lol. Nice thread john. This forum is getting better everyday.
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I like how Team ACS is the only group who enjoys smartass comments. Everyones work is free so they (devs) deserve to be so I suppose.
Especially since people don't know what a search box is.
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The real joke is that search has been broke forever,dont you wish it was more accurate like google?
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Well, time for some negativity... Has anyone noticed that the overall vibe improved after a few individuals departed?
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smoothone? Well yeah, of course.
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I like how Team ACS is the only group who enjoys smartass comments
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Sorry, what?
Good people always get along and I don't care what they say about all yous epic developers........YOUR THE BEST.....THANK YOU ALL!!!
Great post corleone.....**** I've been on for 10 minutes and all my thanks are gone WTF?
I agree 100%, the epic community has done a complete 180.
With that said, I for the life of me.. cannot find the post cyanogen made to aid in the learning for new developers. It's time to learn some Android <.<
this reminds me of the movie anger management with adam sandler.. I feel pretty o so pretty ........ lol Any way Well played sir well played.
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The real joke is that search has been broke forever,dont you wish it was more accurate like google?
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Then use google. See my signature for the best way to search this site. I put it as a shortcut in my browser so I can use that instead of their broken one.
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Then use google. See my signature for the best way to search this site. I put it as a shortcut in my browser so I can use that instead of their broken one.
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Could you make the font in your signature any smaller? Just kidding.... See we're all having fun now.
Hey everyone. I wanted to cleanup this post a bit in order to make a pretty big announcement. Here is an expcert from my blog post late last night. The whole post can be read here.
"Tonight, I so very pleased to announce that Intellijoy will be donating FULL versions of ALL their children’s apps to Android4Autism to be distributed on all the devices that we will be putting into the hands of Autistic children from around the US. I’m very excited about this because I truly believe this WILL make a difference in the lives of many Autistic children and their families. I don’t make it a habit of promoting companies on this blog because that’s not the purpose of Lost and Tired. However, Intellijoy is a company that is working to help our children learn through engaging and entertaining apps. My children benefit from the use of these applications and I know many more could as well. As special needs parents and members of the Autism community we should support companies like, Intellijoy, as they are providing low cost software that can turn your Android powered smartphone into a learning tool for your child.
So on behalf of Android4Autism and lostandtired.com, I want to THANK Intellijoy for helping to improve the lives our Autistic children and their families. If you have an Android powered smart phone and I KNOW many of you do, check out these apps on the Market. Help spread the word that these apps and others like it can be found on the Android Market. As a community we need to support the companies that are providing resources for our kids….. More to come soon…"
In the mean time get all the latest Android4Autism updates by following us on twitter: @Android4Autism or “Like us on Facebook.
mine.......
Your a good man. And I respect what your doing .
Stupid thanks limit for the day...Great job again Rob you never cease to amaze me...
Now I need to find a way to add this thread to my Sig lol
Some forum....won't mention names...has a stupid 4 or 5 line limit...
Awesome thing to do man. Why is there not more people like u in this world?
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Stupid thanks limit for the day...Great job again Rob you never cease to amaze me...
Now I need to find a way to add this thread to my Sig lol
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Iknow right? we need a spoiler's tag code. =(
When I upgrade my phone ill for sure donate my epic but that might not happened till December though I wish I could do it now
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When I upgrade my phone ill for sure donate my epic but that might not happened till December though I wish I could do it now
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That would be awesome. Thanks so much.
I won't be able to upgrade until October, cause that's when my premier gold status kicks in, and idk when i'll be able to get a new phone. But, when I do, I plan on donating
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That would be awesome. Thanks so much.
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No problem man. U don't mind if it not till December right?
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What do you guys think. I was polling today on twitter for advice. I really like the name but can't decide between "Android 4 Autism" or Android for Autism". For url purposes android4autism.com looks better but written out, "Android for Autism" may look better. Using "for" looks more professional but I'm catering to kids and special needs families so using "4" may be a bit more casual and kid friendly.
What do you guys think?
"Android 4 Autism" or "Android for Autism"
I say Android for Autism.
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holy crap, you are an amazing person medic, I wish more people could be like you; including myself.
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What do you guys think. I was polling today on twitter for advice. I really like the name but can't decide between "Android 4 Autism" or Android for Autism". For url purposes android4autism.com looks better but written out, "Android for Autism" may look better. Using "for" looks more professional but I'm catering to kids and special needs families so using "4" may be a bit more casual and kid friendly.
What do you guys think?
"Android 4 Autism" or "Android for Autism"
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I vote "Android 4 Autism" Like you said your catering for the kids and I think kids would think its cooler that you used a 4 instead of for
And I've already put that in my sig can't change it now lol
Edit: and the 4 can symbolize the 4 people in your life that started all of this
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No problem man. U don't mind if it not till December right?
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My goal is to keep this going as long as I can. I'll need phones in December also. So that's perfect. I just wanted to let everyone know what I am going to be doing before everyone upgrades.
I already own the .com and .org for both android4autism and androidforautism. That way I have all my bases covered. The guy I use for my hosting is setting everything up on the server and I start putting the site together as I move forward. I want to put some feelers out in the Autism community to help identify needy families.
As I said I just wanted to say something now so that if and when you guys upgrade you have knowledge of what I'm doing so if you wanted to donate your device you could and if not that's cool to. Maybe you could just help spread the word.
Thanks again everyone.....
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What do you guys think. I was polling today on twitter for advice. I really like the name but can't decide between "Android 4 Autism" or Android for Autism". For url purposes android4autism.com looks better but written out, "Android for Autism" may look better. Using "for" looks more professional but I'm catering to kids and special needs families so using "4" may be a bit more casual and kid friendly.
What do you guys think?
"Android 4 Autism" or "Android for Autism"
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My opinion, use "for" I hate when I tell someone a website and then have to tell them its not like it sounds, like saying its not "for" its "4"... Anyway awesome work...
Please click link below to help support autism awareness,it only takes 2 seconds to help make a difference... http://picketfenceblogs.com/vote/3616
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My opinion, use "for" I hate when I tell someone a website and then have to tell them its not like it sounds, like saying its not "for" its "4"... Anyway awesome work...
Please click link below to help support autism awareness,it only takes 2 seconds to help make a difference... http://picketfenceblogs.com/vote/3616
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Yeah. I was thinking the same thing. That's why I snatched up all the domains. I figured that either way it will get them to the right place.
I'd vote Autism4Android. It looks better in the URL. But like many said, maybe using "for" would be better in general.
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Yeah. I was thinking the same thing. That's why I snatched up all the domains. I figured that either way it will get them to the right place.
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True, you did the right thing... The name is very catchy, I've got a contact that works for Fox 5, let me see what I can do...
Help support autism awareness,it only takes 2 seconds to help make a difference... http://picketfenceblogs.com/vote/3616
But im not ready to stop using my epic... its been getting better and better and better.
And now that developers are dropping like flies, i think its time we should do something about it and take it into our own hands.
i want to learn how to develop and theme and contribute to this community, so if anyone wants to help me or point me in the right direction... i have nothing but time.
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But im not ready to stop using my epic... its been getting better and better and better.
And now that developers are dropping like flies, i think its time we should do something about it and take it into our own hands.
i want to learn how to develop and theme and contribute to this community, so if anyone wants to help me or point me in the right direction... i have nothing but time.
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I wish I had time. Only thing I seem to be lacking.
I'd love to develop as it would give me something to do on slow work days but I don't know where to even start. Been so long since I've coded anything other than some SQL. I have an Information Systems degree but I work in the finance and accounting section. Go figure.
I would say tweet or message k0nane. He seems willing to point people in the right direction. I mean he helped Mystery turn from a themer to a chef.
I think this is a great idea. I don't have the time to devote to taking classes right now, but I wouldn't mind buying a book or two or reading some training websites or stuff like that. I just don't know where to start. I would love to get involved if someone could point me in the right direction.
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I wish I had time. Only thing I seem to be lacking.
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I hear you there. A full time job, school, wife and 3 kids doesn't leave much for hobbies. Of course, we've seen some pretty great devs with more than there share of 'personal life'.
I'd be interested in learning as well. I do believe, however, that new source code is going to bring a lot of people with skills to the development community. I think the water's just a bit stagnate right now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
Hope this helps...
Grapes
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I would say tweet or message k0nane. He seems willing to point people in the right direction. I mean he helped Mystery turn from a themer to a chef.
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whats his twitter?
and for you guys saying that youd love to learn, lets do it.
we can get in a group or something and work together, it will make things much smoother
anyone who wants to try this with me can add me on g+
if you need an invite ill send you one.
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whats his twitter?
and for you guys saying that youd love to learn, lets do it.
we can get in a group or something and work together, it will make things much smoother
anyone who wants to try this with me can add me on g+
if you need an invite ill send you one.
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I like your motivation and may be joining you soon, I just need to see how devoted I can get first, I do so many different things right now to try and make a buck (not anything I do here, this is fun,and donate buttons are just a hope, that's all), fixing computers dirt cheap, and that takes serious time, and a major headache most of the time. But I really want to develop and put out some top notch ROMs/apps, that my goal. So add me to g+, [email protected]
Help support autism awareness,it only takes 2 seconds to help make a difference...
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ecooce said:
I like your motivation and may be joining you soon, I just need to see how devoted I can get first, I do so many different things right now to try and make a buck (not anything I do here, this is fun,and donate buttons are just a hope, that's all), fixing computers dirt cheap, and that takes serious time, and a major headache most of the time. But I really want to develop and put out some top notch ROMs/apps, that my goal. So add me to g+, [email protected]
Help support autism awareness,it only takes 2 seconds to help make a difference...
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alright i added you. and you bring a lot of notoriety and experience with your Roms already, so i really appreciate your interest.
I'd live to join. I'm currently on medical hold for 6 months or so from pilot training and only have an exec job that doesn't require too much work. this will def give me something to keep me busy and help give back if I can figure it out that is, haha. I took several comp sci classes, for my major. it was a couple years ago but hopefully the whole programming thing will come back. I'm not sure how google + works yet just got on for two min last night but if you can add by emails, mine is stormglove at gmail. Hope this works out
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I'd live to join. I'm currently on medical hold for 6 months or so from pilot training and only have an exec job that doesn't require too much work. this will def give me something to keep me busy and help give back if I can figure it out that is, haha. I took several comp sci classes, for my major. it was a couple years ago but hopefully the whole programming thing will come back. I'm not sure how google + works yet just got on for two min last night but if you can add by emails, mine is stormglove at gmail. Hope this works out
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alright man i added you to my xda circle.
im thinking we can figure this out by thursday.
I would like to learn also!
Just hoping my brain can handle it!
I've got a linux VM that I was going to setup to help with some compiling etc, so i guess I'm up for it.. just gotta do a lil config work to get it setup the rest of the way. Otherwise call me the #1 tester..
oh, and pvt.joker at gmail for the +...
Wow, looks like we got a few more future(hopefully) devs. Good luck guys!
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Wow, looks like we got a few more future(hopefully) devs. Good luck guys!
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you better join in on this Zander
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you better join in on this Zander
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Lol why? I'll join in, but no promises from me. I don't have g+ yet. yodaspy1(at)gmail(dot)com
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Lol why? I'll join in, but no promises from me. I don't have g+ yet. yodaspy1(at)gmail(dot)com
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so you can learn to develop like the rest of us. the more the merrier
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Lol why? I'll join in, but no promises from me. I don't have g+ yet. yodaspy1(at)gmail(dot)com
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Invite sent
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