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Right now, I have 109 mb free (16%) in /data. I also have 128 mb free of 146 mb available in /cache.
I applied the dalvik-cache to cache move through recovery and adb and then listed the results of the move:
221 mb (or so) free in /data. Awesome!
21 mb (or so) free in /cache. Not so awesome.
Here's my thinking:
1. Without this mod, I still have 109 mb free for app storage.
2. With this mod, I only have 21 mb left for the dalvik-cache, minus whatever else the system decides to put in there (those annoying Download.apks)
3. Even though it will report that I have 221 mb free after the mod, there is no way the dalvik-cache produced by those 221 mb of apps will be less than 21 mb.
4. Quite possibly, it will leave us with less app space as well as other problems, aka, the phone doesn't like it when the /cache partition is full and can't write anything else to it.
I did not reboot my phone, instead I deleted the dalvik-cache folder from /cache and deleted /data/dalvik-cache. I didn't want to go through the trouble of setting permissions for /cache.
So, is it worth it? It makes sense why HTC didn't increase the /cache partition as well as the /data one. It's not like they have us in mind when they roll out their new phones. I'm just wondering if this mod has reached the end of its rope, so to speak. Is there another directory we could move it to? Moving it to system seems the only possible option, but we would have to have the phone boot with /system as rw. Can we resize the cache partition? Seems rather dangerous. Bottom line: Is it worth it?
Anything downloaded into cache typically clears itself out. If you want to get more space on your cache, switch to an odex rom, will clear up a lot of space from dalvik. But 148 MB of cache is way overkill.
I want to look into modifying firerat's partition mod to work on our phones and move some of that huge unused system space to /data but I am horribly too busy at the moment to mess around
danaff37 said:
Anything downloaded into cache typically clears itself out. If you want to get more space on your cache, switch to an odex rom, will clear up a lot of space from dalvik. But 148 MB of cache is way overkill.
I want to look into modifying firerat's partition mod to work on our phones and move some of that huge unused system space to /data but I am horribly too busy at the moment to mess around
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Personally, I am okay with the amount of space given for apps. I just wanted to raise the question.
I am new to xda and so am not familiar with all the mods that have been implemented on other phones. When I had the Moment and was involved over at SDX, we were so busy fixing the Moment to make it usable that many mods were never implemented. It's amazing what is being done here at xda, and not to detract from the good folks at SDX, who I love, but it seems the sheer number of quality devs is staggering here. I think I'll be content being an end-user for a while and helping out where I can.
I'll look into firerat's partition mod and though I can't promise I'll be able to apply it here on the Shift, I'll give it a good go. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction, danaff37
I sure do miss fireat's partition mod on the Hero. I have about 50mb left in data on my Shift. I've used a2sd before, but I prefer my apps to run off the phone memory.
I agree with ya. And it annoys me to see over 200 megs free on system, just sitting there!
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qngds said:
I sure do miss fireat's partition mod on the Hero. I have about 50mb left in data on my Shift. I've used a2sd before, but I prefer my apps to run off the phone memory.
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I'm running most of my larger apps off of the SD card and haven't had any issues.
I'd say give it a try and see what you think.
I'm also running a Class 10 card.
If you don't have one I suggest this one
Anybody know how the three OS versions compare (eclair, froyo, gingerbread) as far as system file size and how much of the internal storage they take? I would hope Gingerbread is the least bloated most optimized, but is the truth different?
I would imagine it increases with each revision as they add more features, although that doesn't mean it's more bloated. Freeing up space on the system partition doesn't really matter anyway. If you don't use it then it's just wasted.
Why would it not matter, isnt the 'system partition' and the internal storage synonymous?
unsivil_audio said:
Why would it not matter, isnt the 'system partition' and the internal storage synonymous?
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The internal storage on the phone is divided into several partitions. Each partition is a fixed size.
In specific, the system partition (where the ROM is stored) is 240MB and the data partition (where installed apps are stored) is 185MB. Freeing up space in the system partition won't give you any extra space on the data partition.
However the CM ROMs place the Dalvik cache on the data partition, so naturally you will have less space available for apps. I don't think the Sense "Liberated" ROMs do that but I'm not positive.
If you want more app space though, just use one of the various apps2sd methods.
Yeah I tried dark tremors a2sd before, but even though it freed up an insane amount of space it wasn't worth the performance loss. I may try it again in the future though.
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hope someone can help me ASAP. i was under the impression that my SD card would allow me to run CM7, but it wont. and i don't really want to go and buy another one.
so i have a few questions.
first, can i restore the nook color completely to stock to the point where if i had to return it for warranty reasons it would be good.
secondly, does CM7 from the internal memory run good/just as well/better than the SD card.
third, how large is the /data partition for apps if you install to the internal memory.
hope someone can respond asap. thanks in advance.
1. yes
2. better
3. it's your choice, by default B&N NC v1.2 comes with 5GB /data while the previous version of NC comes with 1GB /data. You can choose to have 1GB, 2GB or 5GB
votinh said:
1. yes
2. better
3. it's your choice, by default B&N NC v1.2 comes with 5GB /data while the previous version of NC comes with 1GB /data. You can choose to have 1GB, 2GB or 5GB
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thanks, and for 3, if i install CM7, how do i get the 5GB /data? because that would be best, i don't want to run out of space like on my nexus one.
3. CM7 has nothing to do with it. What you're looking for is the re-partition/re-format the system.
Note: 5GB /data is way way way more than enough for Android apps.
Note: /data is for the installed apps, it's not the storage that you can put your mp3, pictures, ...., just be clear.
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3. CM7 has nothing to do with it. What you're looking for is the re-partition/re-format the system.
Note: 5GB /data is way way way more than enough for Android apps.
Note: /data is for the installed apps, it's not the storage that you can put your mp3, pictures, ...., just be clear.
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little confused then, only devices i've ever messed with are phones, so this is new to me. is there anything i have to do to make sure i get the 5gb data, or do i just get that when installing CM7.
And i've been around for a while so i know that 5GB is an insane amount and more than enough, but it's always good to have more than enough.
Do you know yet how your NC is currently partitioned? Most recent Nooks have the 5GB /data, indicated by a blue sticker on the box. To confirm, go to Settings>About NookColor (that may not be exact--haven't had stock in a while). If it indicates less than 1GB storage, you have 5GB /data.
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little confused then, only devices i've ever messed with are phones, so this is new to me. is there anything i have to do to make sure i get the 5gb data, or do i just get that when installing CM7.
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As I mentioned in previous post, if your NC is prior to v1.2.0, then you should "automatically" has 1GB /data. If your NC is v1.2, then you would have 5GB /data, meaning, it's default shipped products from B&N.
If you want to have 5GB /data
a. if your NC is v1.2 then you don't have to do anything.
b. if your NC is an earlier version, then you can re-partition to have 5GB /data
looks like i have the 1.2, i see a blue circle sticker on the back and in the unit i have 1.2 software and 1GB of available storage.
thanks for everything guys now to get CM7 on it.
Hello everyone and thank you for having me on your wonderful forum. I have learned so much in such a short time by reading everything I could whether I was intending to use it or not.
I got my 16gb Nexus on Monday and immediately prepped it for ROMs, settling on CM10.1 RC2, Prior to that I had an Optimus V running CM7. On my Optimus, after flashing CM7 for the long haul I was able to move all excess /system space back into /data using terminal emulator and the fdisk command, but I followed a guide of some sort that is long lost now.
Everything is fantastic so far except one thing, there seems to be quite a lot of space reserved in the /system and /cache partitions, and I am not sure if I am able to re-partition this space back to /data or how exactly to do this.
right now /system is reading at 395.8 / 827.8 MB used, and /cache is at 68.4 / 551.7 MB. I would like to repartition 200 MB away from /system and 300-400 MB away from /cache, and put it back into /data. This will leave me some space to integrate or convert a few apps to system apps, and enough cache space to be safe (why does it need 550 MB to begin with?) and give back another half gig of storage that I paid so much to have.
I have three issues with this, one being that I can find almost no information on this topic directly mentioning the NExus 4, and any relatable information from other devices talking about device specific toolkits to do the job.
The only thread I found on XDA about this is below, and it only gave me a vague "this is not possible"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2248400
The second issue is I do not recall the command switches/flags that go with the fdisk command, only that I had to use some things to set file permissions or remount the partition or some such (I know, i'm a noob, forgive me).
Lastly, I am rather confused by the multiple partitions of /data and /storage/emulated all showing a partition size of 13231.8 MB. Obviously they are all the same physical space, but I am afraid to mess with the partitions and break what I assume are a ton of symlinks that trick apps into believing there is an external SD card in play. Can any of you shed some light on this for me?
I3ig Al said:
Hello everyone and thank you for having me on your wonderful forum. I have learned so much in such a short time by reading everything I could whether I was intending to use it or not.
I got my 16gb Nexus on Monday and immediately prepped it for ROMs, settling on CM10.1 RC2, Prior to that I had an Optimus V running CM7. On my Optimus, after flashing CM7 for the long haul I was able to move all excess /system space back into /data using terminal emulator and the fdisk command, but I followed a guide of some sort that is long lost now.
Everything is fantastic so far except one thing, there seems to be quite a lot of space reserved in the /system and /cache partitions, and I am not sure if I am able to re-partition this space back to /data or how exactly to do this.
right now /system is reading at 395.8 / 827.8 MB used, and /cache is at 68.4 / 551.7 MB. I would like to repartition 200 MB away from /system and 300-400 MB away from /cache, and put it back into /data. This will leave me some space to integrate or convert a few apps to system apps, and enough cache space to be safe (why does it need 550 MB to begin with?) and give back another half gig of storage that I paid so much to have.
I have three issues with this, one being that I can find almost no information on this topic directly mentioning the NExus 4, and any relatable information from other devices talking about device specific toolkits to do the job.
The only thread I found on XDA about this is below, and it only gave me a vague "this is not possible"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2248400
The second issue is I do not recall the command switches/flags that go with the fdisk command, only that I had to use some things to set file permissions or remount the partition or some such (I know, i'm a noob, forgive me).
Lastly, I am rather confused by the multiple partitions of /data and /storage/emulated all showing a partition size of 13231.8 MB. Obviously they are all the same physical space, but I am afraid to mess with the partitions and break what I assume are a ton of symlinks that trick apps into believing there is an external SD card in play. Can any of you shed some light on this for me?
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nexus4 doesn´t have a fix size for partitions, you can use the whole memory for everything... no need to re-partition anything
75markus said:
nexus4 doesn´t have a fix size for partitions, you can use the whole memory for everything... no need to re-partition anything
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I'm not sure if you are misunderstanding or not reading my whole post, or if I am not understanding you or the situation I am posting about, so please don't take offense to this reply.
It appears to me that the /system partition is reserving 827 MB space for the ROM, and CM10.1 is only using 400 MB of it
It also appears that 552 MB is reserved for the /cache partition, and only 70 MB is being currently used.
This is ~900 MB of storage space that is reserved and unused. I would like to know if it is possible to reallocate ~500-600 MB of this back into the /data partition for user space.
Please explain to me how this space is part of the whole memory that can be used for anything.
After posting I have thought some more about it and decided to NOT mess with the partition sizes, mainly because I do not know what effect it would have if I were to flash another ROM in the future, which is almost a given when Key Lime Pie is released. However I would still like to understand what I have asked about in case I do want to do this in the future, and also just for the sake of expanding my knowledge.
I like this. The only "issue" is that if more space were ever to be reallocated to /system or /cache, it'd require wiping /data obviously. Small price to pay. 500MB isn't too small a chunk for 8GB users.
75markus said:
nexus4 doesn´t have a fix size for partitions, you can use the whole memory for everything... no need to re-partition anything
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Actually it does. System data cache and boot, plus like 30 other ones, same as any other phone with no micro SD card
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I3ig Al said:
I'm not sure if you are misunderstanding or not reading my whole post, or if I am not understanding you or the situation I am posting about, so please don't take offense to this reply.
It appears to me that the /system partition is reserving 827 MB space for the ROM, and CM10.1 is only using 400 MB of it
It also appears that 552 MB is reserved for the /cache partition, and only 70 MB is being currently used.
This is ~900 MB of storage space that is reserved and unused. I would like to know if it is possible to reallocate ~500-600 MB of this back into the /data partition for user space.
Please explain to me how this space is part of the whole memory that can be used for anything.
After posting I have thought some more about it and decided to NOT mess with the partition sizes, mainly because I do not know what effect it would have if I were to flash another ROM in the future, which is almost a given when Key Lime Pie is released. However I would still like to understand what I have asked about in case I do want to do this in the future, and also just for the sake of expanding my knowledge.
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i think N4 uses FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) file system
noobdeagle said:
isnt this what they were saying was the reason for no SD card and use of MTP ?; basically if i recall correctly the nexus devices do not truly assign partitions instead there is a storage 'pool' that anything can use dynamically.
so i guess there is no partitions its just all 1 volume.
source: http://www.androidcentral.com/why-nexus-devices-have-no-sd-card
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That is for the sdcard.
The other partitions such as /system still have fixed amounts of space allocated
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Did the developers scale down the textures or what?
I thought it was never possible but now it is!
uh
You do know that the /data and /system partitions are separate, right?
The 180MB you are talking about is presumably the storage space in /data. However, as you know, the system itself is installed in /system. The /system partition has almost 40MB more space than the /data partition (~220MB). That way, the KK system is able to be installed, just that there is not much space left in /system, with about 20-30MB left in the /system partition after first boot. Also, 90MB of /data is also already taken up on first boot, so you can guess how memory-consuming KK can be.
NightRaven49 said:
uh
You do know that the /data and /system partitions are separate, right?
The 180MB you are talking about is presumably the storage space in /data. However, as you know, the system itself is installed in /system. The /system partition has almost 40MB more space than the /data partition (~220MB). That way, the KK system is able to be installed, just that there is not much space left in /system, with about 20-30MB left in the /system partition after first boot. Also, 90MB of /data is also already taken up on first boot, so you can guess how memory-consuming KK can be.
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There are a few new devices launched like celkon-campus-a35k or Karbon A50S
Celkon phone sports a 3.5-inch HVGA (320x480p) display and comes packed with 1GHz processor, 256MB RAM, 512MB inbuilt storage (expandable up to 32GB), a 3.2-megapixel main camera, a 0.3-megapixel (VGA) snapper on the front and a 1400 mAh battery.
seems like there is still scope for galaxy -y (as we can still over clock the cpu to 1.2 ghz) to have kitkat...
well I am a noobee but want to work on this KITKAT on Galaxy Y GT5360
can you please help me to get least sized AOSP for the same
Thanks in Advance.
itsabhishek19 said:
There are a few new devices launched like celkon-campus-a35k or Karbon A50S
Celkon phone sports a 3.5-inch HVGA (320x480p) display and comes packed with 1GHz processor, 256MB RAM, 512MB inbuilt storage (expandable up to 32GB), a 3.2-megapixel main camera, a 0.3-megapixel (VGA) snapper on the front and a 1400 mAh battery.
seems like there is still scope for galaxy -y (as we can still over clock the cpu to 1.2 ghz) to have kitkat...
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I would like to correct you, we cannot overclock to 1.2 GHz.
Kernels like Merruk show 1.2 GHz, but it is purely placebo, not real overclock.
2nd thing we already have kitkat at 832MHz.
And there is no AOSP Kitkat 4.4.x build YET (10th July, 2014) for SGY.
You can get CyanogenMod 11 if you want. But it is not fully stable right now.
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Galaxy mini 5570 has many kitkat roms and they fit in the same 180 /data and 220 /system and very good for daily use, this rom needs to be first stable, then look abot decreasing consumed memory
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