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Hey all
My problem is kind of strange. For the past 4 days, whenever I turn my phone off, reset it or let it do it's sprite backup, I lose all of my new text messages. It goes back to the same messages that I had 4 days ago.
I noted that my cemail.vol file is 10.4 MB. That is huge.
I tried to delete 95% of the text messages manually, and even went to the deleted items tab and deleted them again. I even used my CK tools to clean up my phone.
Whenever I reset my phone, every message that I spent hours trying to delete comes back, deleting all of the newest messages and restoring it back to the way it was 4 days ago. Same thing with my Sprite back up.
I have some messages that I would like to keep for sentimental reasons, and I have tried to delete almost every other message, but like I said, I turn off my phone and turn it back on, it goes back to the way it was 4 days ago.
Any thoughts on how I can delete these old sms messages and still keep the ones I want?
Thanks!
Mike in St. Louis
Juz first make a PIM backup of ur things... n do a hard reset or re-install the ROM.. I hope it will do...
Hello,
For the past couple days while I was on a camping trip I have had a really annoying problem. I cannot receive text messages right now- or rather, I cannot view them. What will happen when I get a text message is that it will show up on the today screen- I will see the "text 1", but when I go to view the text, it takes me to the inbox- but the text isn't there. This has happened with a dozen texts over a few days, before and after a soft reset, and hasn't -not- happened to any texts. I haven't been able to get/view any new texts for several days. I know that texts are actually coming, because I can send myself a text from vtext.com and my phone will show that I have a new text- but I can't see it in my inbox. Also, I once caught a text right as it was coming in and was able to read the first part of it, but when I went to reply... it wasn't there.
I am using RyanMogul's light ROM, latest build.
I have two questions:
How can I stop this from happening?
Can I view the texts I have lost over the past few days?
Thank you!
nedfunnell said:
Hello,
For the past couple days while I was on a camping trip I have had a really annoying problem. I cannot receive text messages right now- or rather, I cannot view them. What will happen when I get a text message is that it will show up on the today screen- I will see the "text 1", but when I go to view the text, it takes me to the inbox- but the text isn't there. This has happened with a dozen texts over a few days, before and after a soft reset, and hasn't -not- happened to any texts. I haven't been able to get/view any new texts for several days. I know that texts are actually coming, because I can send myself a text from vtext.com and my phone will show that I have a new text- but I can't see it in my inbox. Also, I once caught a text right as it was coming in and was able to read the first part of it, but when I went to reply... it wasn't there.
I am using RyanMogul's light ROM, latest build.
I have two questions:
How can I stop this from happening?
Can I view the texts I have lost over the past few days?
Thank you!
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Well, I figured out how I can view the old texts, sort of- I did a PIM backup with compression and binary turned off, then copied that file to my PC, unarchived it with 7-zip, then opened the messages folder in notepad (or excel). The message text was buried in plaintext among a lot of code.
I am not sure what caused this, the only thing I really know is that when PIM backup prompted me for what to back up, it showed _two_ messages sections. Odd. I also discovered I'd lost the ability to sent texts.
I figure I'll just re-flash and see if that fixes the problem. I'll hold off on going to another ROM because I don't want to chance losing my hard-won GPS capability.
I've been running CM6-RC3 on my N1 for the past two days. Everything has been speedy and problem free until this morning.
I keep all my text messages (all that I've received since i got my phone in June) and have them backed up (thank god)...
This morning I received a text from a friend; I reply and turn my phone's screen off. A minute later I receive two more messages, but it takes a while to load them. I press the back button to check the other message and notice all my conversations have disappeared. Wiped completely.
I've made sure that I don't have the 200 sms limit enabled....
I'm just wondering now: Is there a cap on how many total messages Android will store (I'd imagine so, but I've not read anywhere about it).
I'm using a HTC Hero and i've got at least 300 smses on my phone and it is still alright. I don't think that theres any limit for smses. It might be limited to the amount of space on your phone, but since smes are text they should take up really little space hence practically there is no cap on sms storage (unless you have a couple of million smses stored).
I'm talking more like 4000-5000 messages (sms and mms). I realize that its just text and very minimal, but I still wonder why everything was erased.
Maybe its a bug in CM...
But anyone else heard of a limit in Android?
By the way, I checked again I have around 1100 smes. I don't think that android has any limitations at all. All new smartphone oses don't have such a limit. Highly likely that it is a bug with CM
r45k said:
I've been running CM6-RC3 on my N1 for the past two days. Everything has been speedy and problem free until this morning.
I keep all my text messages (all that I've received since i got my phone in June) and have them backed up (thank god)...
This morning I received a text from a friend; I reply and turn my phone's screen off. A minute later I receive two more messages, but it takes a while to load them. I press the back button to check the other message and notice all my conversations have disappeared. Wiped completely.
I've made sure that I don't have the 200 sms limit enabled....
I'm just wondering now: Is there a cap on how many total messages Android will store (I'd imagine so, but I've not read anywhere about it).
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I had this happen to me at CM6 RC2. I was at about 8,000 SMS messages total. All limits removed as well. I have various backups from Nandroid and Titanium backup but I don't care too much. Unlike you I didn't notice the clearing nor what I did to trigger it.
I had the phone for a week now, did couple of factory resets (when playing around with stuff), and yesterday morning I permrooted and HBOOTed the phone...
The phone overall works great, really no complaints, but 10 minutes ago I receive an SMS and open up Messages, and the only SMS I have the in whole app is the one that I have received...so all my SMSes (5834 to be precise) have vanished into thin air...
I am doing another restore right now, thank god I have it on the card...
It's pretty worrying that the phone would be so unrealiable to erase information...
There are two more guys with DHDs on AndroidForum with the same issue:
http://androidforums.com/desire-hd-support-troubleshooting/214946-sms-have-all-disappeared.html
Has any1 else had that happen?
happened a few times to me too, but cannot trace it down to a specific reason...
this IS annoying and forces me to backup my sms on a daily basis!
Wow, that definitely blows...and you have stock DHD, so rooting/HBOOT mods are definitely not the reason...
If it will be a regular occurence I might as well throw the phone in the trash, coz to backup 5000+ SMSes on daily basis, no thank you...
iPhone had no issues with all those SMSes for years, it can't be the sheer number of them...
Nope not to do with size as it happend to me and i only had 300-400 texts altogether before it happened. Btw when it happened to you did ur messages app FC then u have to restart only to find no texts?
Whoa this worries me, how should I go about backing up my messages? I'm all synced with HTC Sense, won't that keep em backed up?
bratfink said:
Btw when it happened to you did ur messages app FC then u have to restart only to find no texts?
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Elaborate on the question a little bit for me, I didn't quite understand you!
I received a SMS, and I just wanted to send a text back, pressed Messages only to find it's completely blank.
Restarted the phone and nothing still blank.
I also had an issue with it today that it didn't store calls I made in Call History, after I restarted it, it started working again though.
mupet0000 said:
Whoa this worries me, how should I go about backing up my messages? I'm all synced with HTC Sense, won't that keep em backed up?
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SMS Backup & Restore by Ritesh Sahu...it's avalabile on the market...HTC Sense can only back them up, but not restore them back to the phone (not that I know a way to anyway)...
http://android.riteshsahu.com/apps/sms-backup-restore
This presents a real problem for me, as it makes it a useless phone...I need a phone for calling and SMSes primarily...everything else comes second...
This happened to my Desire Z today, at around the same time as the OP.
braby said:
Elaborate on the question a little bit for me, I didn't quite understand you!
I received a SMS, and I just wanted to send a text back, pressed Messages only to find it's completely blank.
Restarted the phone and nothing still blank.
I also had an issue with it today that it didn't store calls I made in Call History, after I restarted it, it started working again though.
SMS Backup & Restore by Ritesh Sahu...it's avalabile on the market...HTC Sense can only back them up, but not restore them back to the phone (not that I know a way to anyway)...
http://android.riteshsahu.com/apps/sms-backup-restore
This presents a real problem for me, as it makes it a useless phone...I need a phone for calling and SMSes primarily...everything else comes second...
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There is an app in the market that you can use to backup and restore messages to and from ur gmail acc. this app also has an setting to backup an sms right away when it receives one. dont know the exact name (phone battery empty) but i found it when i was searching for backup sms in the market.
Hope this helps you.
Sorry for my vague description, here it is again in more detail
I received a text message from a friend and i received a notification in my noti-bar
I pulled the bar down and click the message, it then tried to open the messages apk
it force closed saying htc.messages.apk or something hast FC'ed...
I thought lets just restart and it will all be happy days again
I restarted and open the text fine, but when i pressed back to go into my inbox i noticed there were no other text message!
And that's exactly how it happened
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Sorry for my vague description, here it is again in more detail
I received a text message from a friend and i received a notification in my noti-bar
I pulled the bar down and click the message, it then tried to open the messages apk
it force closed saying htc.messages.apk or something hast FC'ed...
I thought lets just restart and it will all be happy days again
I restarted and open the text fine, but when i pressed back to go into my inbox i noticed there were no other text message!
And that's exactly how it happened
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Ah ok, now I got it!
As far as I can recollect there was no app crash on mine, just pulled up empty file.
I thought maybe when I restart the phone things will get back to normal (like they did with call history), but it didn't...Messages were still blank.
Jairus said:
This happened to my Desire Z today, at around the same time as the OP.
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Hmmm...this almost makes me wonder if this is somehow not related to HTCSense.com...
It's just weird that it happened to both of us at about the same time...
If it happens again I'll disable syncing with HTCSense (it's more or less useless anyway, I have local file backups of both), and see if it happens after that...
My HTCSense message log is completely empty, too. I don't think it ever worked.
I had this happen a few weeks back. I opened a new text message and the messages widget crashed. All my messages seem to have been deleted. I was quite concerned as my messages contain important information (I did got to the trouble of migrating them from my old phone)...an email from HTC to see if the emails were deleted (or just not visible as some have reported on other forums) and if there was a way to get them back elicited this response:
Thanks for contacting HTC.
We appreciate your support for our products.
We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience. Thank you for bringing your concern to our attention. With regard to your question, unfortunately, once messages are deleted from the SMS widget, you can no longer retrieve it, unless you have a back up from your SD card or to your SIM card.
Should you encounter any difficulties or have any concerns we have provided, please feel free to contact us again.
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Needless to say this jumble of standard form responses did not answer my question. A further question about how I could possibly avoid this situation in the future; their response...
We appreciate your support for our products.
Thanks for the update. With regards to your concern, please be advised that this is a rare issue that happened to your phone. We will forward this concern to our technical support team for future developments. We advise you to perform a soft reset on your phone. To perform a soft reset, remove the battery, wait for a few seconds, and then re-install it. After re-installing the battery, turn on the phone.
Should you encounter any difficulties or have any concerns we have provided, please feel free to contact us again.
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Rather than bash my head further against a brick wall, I downloaded an app to forward my SMS messages to my gmail as a safe guard and copied what messages I could from the only part of HTC sense that was partially working for me.
I had the same with my HTC Desire Z
I received a SMS, and when I opened it, all my messages were gone, except for the received message.
I read in the official android bug-forum, that this might be a issue with sqlite, but it has not yet been fixed in android 2.2. luckily I just migrated everything so most of my sms are in a backup.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=5669
I have had the same issue a few times with the Desire HD ROM running on my HTC HD2...this is ridiculous.
Guys, I experienced these as well. I realised that when this happens, my messages are actually in HTCSense.com... The weird thing is, before having my DHD I was using HD2 with DHD rom... Then when I got my phone 2 days ago, those sms' which were not supposed to be in this phone reappeared... All the histories I had in my HD2 were in... I suppose this is an act of HTCSense.com...
me too!
This happened to me a few days ago..
I went to reply to a text message that I'd forgotten about and my list was blank!
I went to create a new text and it popped up saying the messages app had crashed.. I killed the process and no luck - crashed again.
Restarted the phone and the messages were still gone..
In terms of non-stock apps/configuration that may be worth mentioning I have:
Android Task Killer
Superuser/VISIONary
Titanium Backup
The only other thing I have done is enabled usb diagnostics (recommended in another thread to stop the occasional lag).
Anyone got any ideas?
Now it happend to me, too!
Performed a hard reset on tuesday and everything went finse since than. SMS were automaticly backed up from HTCSense. But 10 Minutes ago all my text massages were gone... They are still on my HTCSense account - but how to restore???
Thats a mess...
Tough luck guys!
I guess I won't be logging in to HTC Sense anytime soon
Tried to restore my SMS with my SMS BackUp programm. Got the notification "Successfully restored 119 items (2663 dups)."
But on my DHD are only the 119 sms...
Seems that there are still some left-overs the massage widget cannot read.
Ideas anyone?
Nobody an idea? or the same problem?
Hey guys...
Got a weird one here... I was using my phone earlier, and had all my sms messages in there. I sent a text about 1:30pm, and all were still there then. I received a phone call at a little after. After the call, put the phone down, and didn't look at it for a couple of hours. About 3.30pm, I went to send a message. In the messages, it was all empty. A bit confused, I restarted phone. Upon restart, still empty. So, sent a text, and then I'm the only message in there?!
So, what gives. How come this all deleted?!
A bit fed up, since the last backup I have dates back about 2 weeks ago... I guess there's no way to get them back. But, how come they would just delete like that?
lovelldr said:
Hey guys...
Got a weird one here... I was using my phone earlier, and had all my sms messages in there. I sent a text about 1:30pm, and all were still there then. I received a phone call at a little after. After the call, put the phone down, and didn't look at it for a couple of hours. About 3.30pm, I went to send a message. In the messages, it was all empty. A bit confused, I restarted phone. Upon restart, still empty. So, sent a text, and then I'm the only message in there?!
So, what gives. How come this all deleted?!
A bit fed up, since the last backup I have dates back about 2 weeks ago... I guess there's no way to get them back. But, how come they would just delete like that?
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Maybe u wiped it??
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
Other people reported this issue on the Z here and here
It seems no solution or explanation was found for the moment.
So the best is to backup regularly your SMS until a fix is possibly released someday.
Thanks for that missparker... At least it's not just me going crazy...
Now, I'm wondering whether it might be something to do with the htcsense.com website and the syncing?!
I used to be able to get the messages showing on htcsense when I first signed up for it. But then, I had to factory reset the phone. When connecting up to my sense account, I Had all sorts or problems. So, I deleted my sense account, signed up again. After this, they had disabled the messaging etc. But, when I went in to htcsense yesterday, it looked a bit funny (i.e. the locations was apparantly disabled, which I had after I first had problems with it). So my guessing is htc sense deleting all the messages as it synced?!
Also, I got a message when restarting phone saying something like background searching de-activated... Couldn't find this on google?!
Have now set sms backup & restore to do a daily backup... Had that before, but when I ran the latest update, it messed up, so had to run full ruu, and forgot to setup the schedule for backup and restore! More fool me
Not sure that it's got anything to do with htcsense.com.
When it happened on my DZ, I got an FC of the SMS app then when I restarted it all my messages were gone.
Maybe there's some sort of reinitialization that it does if it detects corruption in the messages?
Does anyone know where and in what format the messages are stored?
R.