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I turn my data connection off through the phone settings but it seems to keep turning itself back on? Has anyone experienced this and/or knows how to sort it out?
Cheers guys
Yes there are many threads about this, check you have no auto connections enabled, like weather, facebook, mail ect, but to be honest, if the data connection is idle, it uses no more power than if it were off, i let mine run all day and i only loose 10% battery, and thats checking email every 2 hours and weather updating every 3.
Leo really is an always on device.
There are reg tweeks and cabs, and progs to help, but i found them all pretty buggy and useless, just leave it on and dont worry.
Now if you can stop the damn wireless disconnecting on sleep im a happy man .
I'll take that advice my good man ;p
Nice one bruvver ;p
jrvenge said:
Now if you can stop the damn wireless disconnecting on sleep im a happy man .
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You don't want that.. trust me. It brings a whole new meaning to 'battery hog'!
you can also configure another data connection with fake data to prevent it from connecting.
Werid that cus my nokia 5800 stays connected to wireless for 3 days on one charge?
It is strange, but data connection almost constantly on didn't affect my HD2's battery life too badly..in fact it made almost no difference.
maybe because battery life wasn't very good in the first place
Well it should not unless its being used, good advice is drop to GSM only if you dont neet a fast connection, i have my device on GSM always, and use Morits com manager to switch to 3G+ if i need the speed, i have done this with all my phones.
3G is a bit of a power monster, and rather pointless drain unless your using it.
I,m using Nodata program to disable data connections. The draw back is you have to enable them back if you want to use internet. The program is definetly good for roaming if you want to be on a safe side.
http://htcdriver.com/index.php?page=nodata
Hey thats a handy app thanks
nodata switched my data connection back on while abroad. I just hope not to get a horrific bill now!!!
Hi there
Am confused. Am running Manila 2.5 and have recently installed an icon set for the Comm Manager. Previously when I went into the Comm Manager the 3G option (which is labeled 'Change to GSM',)was marked as OFF (this was how it was when I first used the phone and I have never had a need to change that). But since I installed the new icon set, strangely, when I now go into the Comm Manager I notice that the 3G option in showing as ON (Green) and I cannot turn it off. I tap the On/Off button but unlike the Wireless or Phone options nothing happens.
I do not believe that I need the 3G functionality to be on (as it was not showing as such until recently, and as far as I know I do not want to 'change to GSM') when I have the Data Connection on, and therefore I would like know how to switch the 3G off (incidentally I can switch the Data Connection on or off at will)?
Can anybody help/advise
Many thanks in advance.
Regards
Balders
Baldrick1 said:
Hi there
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I do not believe that I need the 3G functionality to be on (as it was not showing as such until recently, and as far as I know I do not want to 'change to GSM') when I have the Data Connection on, and therefore I would like know how to switch the 3G off (incidentally I can switch the Data Connection on or off at will)?
Can anybody help/advise
Many thanks in advance.
Regards
Balders
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What phone do you have and what ROM are you running? If I understand your question correctly you are asking about switching between 3G and EDGE (aka 2.5G) at will or on demand. If so you need to do a registry edit. Using your registry editor go to "HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\PhoneSetting" and change value of "ShowUMTSBandPage" to 1. Do a soft reset and this should do the trick.
However my question to you is why would you want to do this? You do lose speed because EDGE is a slower connection. Not to mention you cannot do both data usage and phone calls simultaneously. Only in a few instances could I see this tweak being truly helpful (aka being in an area for extended time where 3G bandwidth is extremely weak and cuts in and out a lot). The one benefit would be possibly better battery life.
Hope this helps.
aybarrap1
aybarrap1 said:
What phone do you have and what ROM are you running? If I understand your question correctly you are asking about switching between 3G and EDGE (aka 2.5G) at will or on demand. If so you need to do a registry edit. Using your registry editor go to "HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\PhoneSetting" and change value of "ShowUMTSBandPage" to 1. Do a soft reset and this should do the trick.
However my question to you is why would you want to do this? You do lose speed because EDGE is a slower connection. Not to mention you cannot do both data usage and phone calls simultaneously. Only in a few instances could I see this tweak being truly helpful (aka being in an area for extended time where 3G bandwidth is extremely weak and cuts in and out a lot). The one benefit would be possibly better battery life.
Hope this helps.
aybarrap1
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Hi aybarrap
Thanks for the reply.
Have reviewed the situation and conclude as per what you have said that the gains are outweighed by the losses...so I will stick with 3G.
Regards
Balders
3G eats alot of battery, GSM all the way if you never use HSDPA (WiFi + WEP cracker ftw).
Anyway it's: settings (in HTC slider) > wireless controls (comm manager basically) > press on phone > scroll down to the bottom and choose BAND > change to GSM/WCDMA (3G)
Glad I could help. Just keep in mind that if you are big on battery life this is definitely the tweak for you as mentioned by ArtieQ. I personally use this tweak because my workplace gets low 3G signal and I tend to drop calls if I don't apply this tweak. Not to mention the battery life is eaten super fast by all of the switching back and forth. I turn on EDGE only at work and back to 3G when I get off.
Hey guys, I'm by no means an Android developer, so I could never make my idea a reality. But do you guys think this would be possible?
THE IDEA:
A small program that runs in the background, switching the network between HSDPA and EDGE. It would default to EDGE while idling, but activate HSDPA when a user-defined program is run (such as Opera, google maps, marketplace, etc). This way, you can idle on EDGE (and save power), but still have the speed of HSDPA when you need it!
I have no idea if this is even remotely possible so please don't flame the noob
I don't know if you searched the forums...but this was 4 threads down from yours. Don't know if it answers your application or what not...also try out Juice Defender
EDIT: oh hi from OCN
bloke226 said:
I don't know if you searched the forums...but this was 4 threads down from yours. Don't know if it answers your application or what not...also try out Juice Defender
EDIT: oh hi from OCN
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Yea already tried it But I still have the OCN mentality of "the pursuit of performance".. in this case, the pursuit of battery performance
Juice Defender does not switch between EDGE/3G based on the applications you're running AFAIK
I kinda had the same idea as you so last week I created a topic on the Nexus One Themes and Apps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678227
Feel free to join the discussion
I believe 3g uses less power while idling than edge
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r34p3rex said:
Yea already tried it But I still have the OCN mentality of "the pursuit of performance".. in this case, the pursuit of battery performance
Juice Defender does not switch between EDGE/3G based on the applications you're running AFAIK
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I hear ya about the performance. I guess I read your post too quick and missed the part where it would be application based. I can't think of anything on the top of my head that can do that, it would be difficult I would imagine...
I think there are a couple problems here
1) the "context switch" (if you will) from Edge to 3G and back devours battery
2) its slow, so you grab your idling phone to figure out the nearest Starbucks and you miss your exit while it jumps from Edge to 3G
I know on the google api it isn't possible to do this, but I don't think that isn't the problem.
At the moment you have 3 options. GSM only, WCDMA only and GSM/WCDMA. Whenever you switch between the 3 of them, the phone will lose signal for 10 seconds before it can find the best network. So the switcher here is not the best as you will lose connection, and what if you are downloading something at the same time...
What you need is when the phone is on GSM/WCDMA that it knows the best network to pick from depending on the phones lifecycle. GSM/WCDMA loses battery power because it always tries to find the best network to connect to, so for example if you are on GSM it will constantly try to find a 3G network etc (as far as I understand it).
What we need is the ability for the phone to stay on GSM when the phone is idle and then when the phone is woken up to automatically start to search for a WCDMA network and then gracefully switch over like it does now. For this I have no idea if it is possible as I don't know how the scanning of the network works. If it is possible then that would be wicked. But this is what we need.
crachel said:
I think there are a couple problems here
1) the "context switch" (if you will) from Edge to 3G and back devours battery
2) its slow, so you grab your idling phone to figure out the nearest Starbucks and you miss your exit while it jumps from Edge to 3G
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THIS.
It's the switch between the two that really eats battery. That said, I'm pretty sure you can do that with Tasker already.
Check out Chainfire's app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807989
When you hold down the search sensor button you get in-app-wifi toggle, It's really hot, because if your online and you decide to turn on your wifi, no more going to home screen to use your power widget, you just hold down that button and it automatically toggles your wifi. Every day I'm learning something new about this beautiful phone. Also, they have fixed the issue with the 3D gallery, all the pictures load lighting quick and at the same time, wifi seems to be enhanced, and phone reception to, I was on the train earlier and I went into a tunnel and I was able to talk until I reached the station, which is a bit of a way underground. I'm using the prioritizer app, and I used to get reception like that on my G1 when I used it, people didn't believe me until I got a phone call in the subway one day, I heard a kid say who gets phone calls in the subway, lol, and whenever I pass one of those grates that lead to outside, text messages come through sometimes. Share your experiences with this incredible device. Screenshot taken with Android Commander 0.7.9.6
Rooted N1 w/locked bootloader
FRF91 eViL n-One-sh0t Noir 7
Setcpu= underclocked 883200 Max / 768000 Min
8GB sdcard class 6 / 512 ext3 partition/no swap
Mine is set to always use voice search. Anyone know who to change this?
I use QuickDesk Beta with a Power Control Widget as well as some other nifty shortcuts. If you download it from the market, the next time long press search there will be and option for the QuickDesk.
If you want to change yours going to search you have to go to settings>application>search(or the program being opened) and undo the defaults for that program.
Is that a stock option, on-app wifi? Or is it a piece of a wifi toggle app, why don't i have it.
You actually need an app to do that, try search in the market 'In App Wifi Toogle'
it's by Oliver Pearmain
A few ROMs have this in as standard (it's pretty useful) but it's not a FroYo thing. It's not in the CM ROMs and possibly won't be.
Just downloaded the in-app wifi toggle from the market. What an extremely handy app!!!
(need to toggle 3g - Wifi a lot since the froyo radio...3g reception in house has worsened quite a bit)
Thanks for the info!
My vote goes to QuickDesk Pro + Power widget as well... much more useful IMHO
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/in-app-wifi-toggle-for-android/
Best thing to use on the search long press is Quick Settings.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.bwx.bequick
You can customize which settings appear on that list, it's awesome. I use it to toggle wifi, sound, brightness (including an auto-brightness toggle), auto-rotate, and a few more.
Play with the settings and configure it to exactly what you want and then every setting is one click away wherever you are.
A little help
olavjunior said:
Mine is set to always use voice search. Anyone know who to change this?
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Go into application setting, then manage applications, scroll until you find voice search, click on it and there should be a option to clear defaults, clear it. next time you use this function you'll be prompted to choose default action, just don't check the box and the prompt will always come up.
Clarkster said:
Best thing to use on the search long press is Quick Settings.
You can customize which settings appear on that list, it's awesome. I use it to toggle wifi, sound, brightness (including an auto-brightness toggle), auto-rotate, and a few more.
Play with the settings and configure it to exactly what you want and then every setting is one click away wherever you are.
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Sweet thanks for sharing this, awesome app
aureliusmaximus said:
Just downloaded the in-app wifi toggle from the market. What an extremely handy app!!!
(need to toggle 3g - Wifi a lot since the froyo radio...3g reception in house has worsened quite a bit)
Thanks for the info!
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You can change your network type for improved reception, go to phone press *#*#4636#*#* and wait for the hidden testing area. Click on phone information, scroll down until you see your set network. Try them all to see which one gives you the best reception. Once you choose one it will reset your network so let it do its thing, your bars and 3G icon should reappear.
blas4me said:
You can change your network type for improved reception, go to phone press *#*#4636#*#* and wait for the hidden testing area. Click on phone information, scroll down until you see your set network. Try them all to see which one gives you the best reception. Once you choose one it will reset your network so let it do its thing, your bars and 3G icon should reappear.
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Er, not really...it may improve network selection, but it won't improve signal.
WCDMA preferred - Use 3G but when signal is weak prefer 3G over GSM.
GSM only - obvious.
WCDMA only - Use only 3G, has no signal then when only GSM present.
GSM auto PRL - Use 3G but when signal is weak, prefer GSM over 3G
All the CDMA/EvDO stuff does apply to our phones...its the same stuff for, but for those networks and GSM/CDMA auto is for combination phones... (ie - "world" phones from Verizon, etc)
Easiest way to improve Nexus One reception - hold it in your left hand.
aureliusmaximus said:
Just downloaded the in-app wifi toggle from the market. What an extremely handy app!!!
(need to toggle 3g - Wifi a lot since the froyo radio...3g reception in house has worsened quite a bit)
Thanks for the info!
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You can change your network type for improved reception, go to phone press *#*#4636#*#* and wait for the hidden testing area. Click on phone information, scroll down until you see your set network. Try them all to see which one gives you the best reception. Once you choose one it will reset your network so let it do its thing, your bars and 3G icon should reappear.
blas4me said:
When you hold down the search sensor button you get in-app-wifi toggle, It's really hot, because if your online and you decide to turn on your wifi, no more going to home screen to use your power widget, you just hold down that button and it automatically toggles your wifi. Every day I'm learning something new about this beautiful phone. Also, they have fixed the issue with the 3D gallery, all the pictures load lighting quick and at the same time, wifi seems to be enhanced, and phone reception to, I was on the train earlier and I went into a tunnel and I was able to talk until I reached the station, which is a bit of a way underground. I'm using the prioritizer app, and I used to get reception like that on my G1 when I used it, people didn't believe me until I got a phone call in the subway one day, I heard a kid say who gets phone calls in the subway, lol, and whenever I pass one of those grates that lead to outside, text messages come through sometimes. Share your experiences with this incredible device. Screenshot taken with Android Commander 0.7.9.6
Rooted N1 w/locked bootloader
FRF91 eViL n-One-sh0t Noir 7
Setcpu= underclocked 883200 Max / 768000 Min
8GB sdcard class 6 / 512 ext3 partition/no swap
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Is there a way to configure this, because i only get voice search, which is sort of useless. I would rather have in app wifi.
-bb
Dude between which stations can you make and hold a call underground thru a tunnel?
Clarkster said:
Best thing to use on the search long press is Quick Settings.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.bwx.bequick
You can customize which settings appear on that list, it's awesome. I use it to toggle wifi, sound, brightness (including an auto-brightness toggle), auto-rotate, and a few more.
Play with the settings and configure it to exactly what you want and then every setting is one click away wherever you are.
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That is actually a really neat app! Thanks for the tip, I like it.
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Er, not really...it may improve network selection, but it won't improve signal.
WCDMA preferred - Use 3G but when signal is weak prefer 3G over GSM.
GSM only - obvious.
WCDMA only - Use only 3G, has no signal then when only GSM present.
GSM auto PRL - Use 3G but when signal is weak, prefer GSM over 3G
All the CDMA/EvDO stuff does apply to our phones...its the same stuff for, but for those networks and GSM/CDMA auto is for combination phones... (ie - "world" phones from Verizon, etc)
Easiest way to improve Nexus One reception - hold it in your left hand.
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Thanks for the "auto PRL" info, and I LOVE the iPhone 4 dig
blas4me;7090838Also said:
they[/B] have fixed the issue with the 3D gallery, all the pictures load lighting quick and at the same time...
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Uhhh... they WHO???
Billy
Google with the FRF91 update. Why do you think updates kept coming out so quickly. Google has a ear to the ground, they put the Nexus out there as a test of Android OS, and they want feedback to improve it. It's all about feedback and improvement.
This is something I've wanted to be able to do for a long time and now thanks to X posed and GravityBox it's now possible.
Massive thank you to @C3C076 for GravityBox and for guidance on how to do this.
Requirements:
Root
Tasker
Xposed
GravityBox (check your ROM's compatibility)
Setup:
Open tasker
Create a new task - misc - send intent
Paste the following into the action box: "gravitybox.intent.action.CHANGE_NETWORK_TYPE"
Paste the following into the extra box:
"networkType:2"
The above will switch to 3g. Change the 2 as per below as required.
0 - 2G/3G auto (3G preferred)
1 - 2G
2 - 3G
9 (or 10) - LTE
Screenshot:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a6il63lw5e4m7vi/2013-12-11 07.51.52.png
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i dont understand whats the aim of this. can explain ?
Magpir said:
i dont understand whats the aim of this. can explain ?
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Setting network mode automatically. For example....
Switch to 2g when on WiFi or screen off.
Then switch to 3g when off WiFi and screen on.
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Doesn't the HTC power saver do the same thing
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You are referring to Sense. Not everyone stays stock plus I'm not sure battery saving mode switches network? If it does does it switch back to 3g when you need it?
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Since I got this running using llama, and you seem to be more skilled with tasker, let me ask you this question.
Many use tasker to implement this function where it scans cell towers and activate/deactivate wifi based on location. However, I have found that tasker will deactivate wifi when the phone latches on to a new cell tower while the wifi is still connected (which makes the automation redundant), whereas llama has this option where it will not switch off wifi (regardless of detected cell towers) unless the wifi connection is gone.
Any way to replicate this same behaviour in tasker?
I don't activate WiFi based on location. I use tasker to switch WiFi as follows:
WiFi disconnected - WiFi off Bluetooth on
Bluetooth disconnected - WiFi on Bluetooth off.
WiFi & Bluetooth disconnected - 5 min delay then both off.
This covers most situations for me as I'm usually in my car between home, work or family.
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kenkiller said:
Since I got this running using llama,
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Worth adding your llama setup here too?
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mitchst2 said:
Worth adding your llama setup here too?
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As in this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48365305&postcount=649
Don't have the pictures anymore hehe.
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mitchst2 said:
I don't activate WiFi based on location. I use tasker to switch WiFi as follows:
WiFi disconnected - WiFi off Bluetooth on
Bluetooth disconnected - WiFi on Bluetooth off.
WiFi & Bluetooth disconnected - 5 min delay then both off.
This covers most situations for me as I'm usually in my car between home, work or family.
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Ah....so the search continues.
Just a question, why would we want to change to 2G when WIFI is connected?
If I am on wifi, I dont use data so I dont care If it is in 3g or 2g. Only for calls. So 3g is not used so I dont care If it is 3g or 2g. Perhaps it save battery? I am not sure, thank you
Javi22 said:
Just a question, why would we want to change to 2G when WIFI is connected?
If I am on wifi, I dont use data so I dont care If it is in 3g or 2g. Only for calls. So 3g is not used so I dont care If it is 3g or 2g. Perhaps it save battery? I am not sure, thank you
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I get a really crap signal on 3g at home so switch to 2g. Only use 3g for browsing off WiFi. Additional benefit is battery saving. This is all now automated
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Javi22 said:
Just a question, why would we want to change to 2G when WIFI is connected?
If I am on wifi, I dont use data so I dont care If it is in 3g or 2g. Only for calls. So 3g is not used so I dont care If it is 3g or 2g. Perhaps it save battery? I am not sure, thank you
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Just as an example, LTE reception in my area is dreadful, 3G is decent, 2G is excellent. If I'm already connected to wifi, but my phone is also on LTE for calls/reception, battery is still dreadful due to the poor reception as phone tries to stay on LTE network (it won't switch to 3G/2G because it can still see LTE), at least on my Nexus 5 (mobile network signal in battery stats is yellow/grey mostly).
Being able to automate the switch to 3G or 2G when connected to wifi solves this part of the battery drain. But if you have excellent mobile reception then this shouldn't be a concern.
Understood. So, although I am wifi connected, the phone still searching for 3g signal, right? yep, In my house there is poor 3g signal too. So I have to try this tutorial, maybe will reduce battery eating I already use tasker for other purposes and it is awesome
Thank you!
There's an app on Google play that shows you the cell towers you connect to. On 3g at home my phone was continually hunting all over the place just to maintain a 3g signal.
This one
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.technolatry.antennas
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mitchst2 said:
There's an app on Google play that shows you the cell towers you connect to. On 3g at home my phone was continually hunting all over the place just to maintain a 3g signal.
This one
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.technolatry.antennas
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Thanks, I will take a look
Btw I searched for "GravityBox" so I can do this trick, but I have found this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2316070
Where it says it is not compatible with htc sense.
On the other hand, have you tried tasker + secure settings? I remember it used to has some 2g/3g toggle, but I cant find it now. I suppose it is no longer avaible, but dont know
mitchst2 appears to be on some kind of AOSP/CM custom rom, so if you're on stock Sense it might not work. Might need to make it clear.
Secure settings' 2G/3G/LTE toggle only works for specific custom roms (CM or AOKP iirc).
I'm on a Google edition. Secure settings network toggle not available on GPE.
GravityBox is being revised so it doesn't apply quick settings toggles by default. Not sure if this will help it's compatibility with sense or not.
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kenkiller said:
mitchst2 appears to be on some kind of AOSP/CM custom rom, so if you're on stock Sense it might not work. Might need to make it clear.
Secure settings' 2G/3G/LTE toggle only works for specific custom roms (CM or AOKP iirc).
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Okey, thanks
mitchst2 said:
I'm on a Google edition. Secure settings network toggle not available on GPE.
GravityBox is being revised so it doesn't apply quick settings toggles by default. Not sure if this will help it's compatibility with sense or not.
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Understood. So not sure if it works on sense. Let's see if someone can confirm this, I will not take a risk for the time being
I hope it works.. This seems to be a very useful task
There are sense toolbox's on xposed. May be worth asking their developers if network mode intents are or can be made available.
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So, who is the people I have to contact? You mean, xposed developers? Sorry mate, It seems that I am a bit lost here...