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[Q] HD2 Android Keeps Crashing; help!

I've switched from windows to android for my htc hd2 and I've been experiencing a lot of freezing/hanging issues. I had no choice but to pull out my battery to restart my phone a lot of times.
Does anyone encounter the same problem after they change to android? Or is it like this? It's like, when i play a game, it'll hang sometimes. playing music halfway, it'd hang. or even using GPRS and it'll hang. =.= help!
btw, i'm using the SD builds. It doesn't really matter which sd builds cuz i tried quite a few and I'm still getting a lot of hangs randomly here and there.

evilwz said:
I've switched from windows to android for my htc hd2 and I've been experiencing a lot of freezing/hanging issues. I had no choice but to pull out my battery to restart my phone a lot of times.
Does anyone encounter the same problem after they change to android? Or is it like this? It's like, when i play a game, it'll hang sometimes. playing music halfway, it'd hang. or even using GPRS and it'll hang. =.= help!
btw, i'm using the SD builds. It doesn't really matter which sd builds cuz i tried quite a few and I'm still getting a lot of hangs randomly here and there.
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Radio?
WM ROM ?
Android ROM version ?

Hi, I've been experiencing the same problems. I'm booting android through WM 6.5 through the SD card method. I've tried the AmericanAndroid (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652), a HTC sense ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954030), a MIUI ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058809) and Darkstone's superRAM froyo. They all tend to crash randomly after a while, and there's no way to solve the problem but pull out the battery... One reason suggested on the forums was that hot weather tends to make the HD2 overheat and crash, which makes some sense because I live in Singapore (that's tropical, btw). But my WM6.5 doesn't crash nearly as often...
O another thing: whenever I boot into android through SD, I tend to get high battery drains of about 60mA. One solution I've found was to shut down the phone, then hold the volume down button while booting in WM6.5. This brings me into a multi coloured screen (is it called the bootloader or something?), and I pull out the battery. After which I boot into WM6.5 normally and boot android from the SD card. That normally brings down the battery drain to about 10mA, but I'm not sure how this works/why it works that way/what side effects this may have... Besides this I follow all the standard procedures, so I'm not sure why android crashes on me so often...

Flash NAND Android ROM and all your troubles will disappear.

Please ensure rom you flashed is the appropriate one. Check ur devicd model, choose rom for ur device, read faq/explanation from chef who built thd rom. Check recovery partition required for your choosed rom. Yesss flash nand rom and flash into ur nand. If u prefer sd rom ensure ur sdcard is in good condition
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likewei92 said:
Hi, I've been experiencing the same problems. I'm booting android through WM 6.5 through the SD card method. I've tried the AmericanAndroid (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652), a HTC sense ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954030), a MIUI ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058809) and Darkstone's superRAM froyo. They all tend to crash randomly after a while, and there's no way to solve the problem but pull out the battery... One reason suggested on the forums was that hot weather tends to make the HD2 overheat and crash, which makes some sense because I live in Singapore (that's tropical, btw). But my WM6.5 doesn't crash nearly as often...
O another thing: whenever I boot into android through SD, I tend to get high battery drains of about 60mA. One solution I've found was to shut down the phone, then hold the volume down button while booting in WM6.5. This brings me into a multi coloured screen (is it called the bootloader or something?), and I pull out the battery. After which I boot into WM6.5 normally and boot android from the SD card. That normally brings down the battery drain to about 10mA, but I'm not sure how this works/why it works that way/what side effects this may have... Besides this I follow all the standard procedures, so I'm not sure why android crashes on me so often...
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hi,
1. try booting into WM6.5 stock rom, w/o any modifications. you should be able to download through the htc website
2. try using WM6.5 a while, see if it hangs/restarts itself. there shouldn't be the case if you're using stock rom.
3. if you still face the restarting/freezing problems even using stock WM6.5 rom. send your phone for servicing.
As my warranty was still valid, i sent my phone for servicing and they changed the whole motherboard of my HD2. Now my phone is running smoothly on both WM6.5 and Android.
The service that HTC offers in Singapore is quite good. You can call them to come to your house and collect the phone personally. If you need, you can ask for a loan phone. They'll repair and return your phone to your doorstep in about a week's time. I'm pretty happy with their efficient service Tell me which company will come and collect your phone at your doorstep and send it back to you when it's all good. Thumbs up all the way for them!
Hope this helps.

Thanks for the replies. I switched to NAND with hyperdroid by pongster, but the crashing persisted for a while. It seems that the connection between the SD card and the phone is the problem. There was once that I got ~60mA of battery drain, then I pulled out the SD card and the drain went down to ~10mA (I was running on NAND of course). I then went on to try a difference SD card (a 4GB sandisk), and the the HD2 stopped crashing. It has also never crashed with the SD card removed. Moral of the story: a very stable SD connection is essential if you want to use SD builds...

HD2 Windows Phone Temperature Issue:

So my HD2 touchscreen stopped working last week. I received my replacement HD2 2 days ago.
Flashed HSPL
Flashed Magldr 1.13
Flashed DFT WPH
I noticed the phone was warm after flashing magldr ( Luke Warm)
Day 1 - Running Windows Phone 7 Installing apps setting up E-Mail (Warm)
Day 2 - PAID for games, the second day I was using the phone, decided to play Fruit Ninja for about 5 minutes. ( HOT)
People are experiencing the same thing in the Android Forum also.
Once again I am not saying this is Magldr, This issue should be addressed and not written off to the second page.
As a community on XDA - I ask everyone with access to Live Services or your means of installing games apps. Install Fruit Ninja and other games, play the game for 5 minutes or so, report back your outcome.
This is a serious issue and must be addressed.

I first thought it was because of the 2.15 radio, so I downgraded to 2.12 but still having this issues, even when I'm on airplane mode it gets very hot while playing games.

Windows Mobile 6.5
As much as I hate to say it. I'll probably just go get the HD7 or Dell Venue Pro.
In the meantime, I'll use my Galaxy Tab for the games.

My HD2 gets very warm only after 40+ min of gaming or 40+ min of heavy IE usage, which it did under WM6.5 with stock ROM also. When I gets warm I just let it cool down on the homescreen for 5 min and go on. I suggest you try a different memory card.
European Leo, Radio 2.12.50, Magldr 1.12, WP7

I had same issues with Android (10 custom roms), WP7 (DFT and Moonlight). Now I am on XBmod ROM and averything is working perfect. Now, my device is not HOT anymore, just warm when playing games, 720p video or browsing the internet. Radio is 2.15.50, MAGLDR 1.13, T-Mobile HD2

Memory Card
This issue has absolutely nothing to do with the memory card, I have at least 5 different classes and brands. The information given to you is inaccurate.

extended mobile data usage causes freezing - 90% reproduceable

If I download from mobile network for an extended period of time, my phone will eventually freeze. The buttons will have no effect and I need to remove the battery.
Here is a way to reproduce it:
There is a game on the market called 'Contract Killer'. Download and run it.
It will then ask you to download ~250Mb of data, and where to save it.
If you choose 'SD Card' and download over mobile network, the phone will eventually freeze (after downloading about 95 Mb, sometimes less sometimes more).
At first I thought it was the SD Card but I changed that and it made no difference since it doesn't seem to happen when I save to the internal memory. I then switched on WiFi and used that instead and had no problems.
Also, sometimes this happens when I download a large app from the market. I tend not to use WiFi since I have an unlimited data plan.
Can someone with a large data plan please test this and see if they get a similar problem?
As a wild guess, I think that maybe using mobile data and writing to SD card together causes overheating. I tried underclocking my CPU to ~500Mhz and it made no difference.
I am using HyperdroidGBX-v12.
I have radio version: leo 2.15.50.14.
If there is a developer and you have any questions or need any debug information, please let me know.

FYI, if it helps any, for a test I just downloaded a 414mb file, saved to SD card, and had no issues, twice in succession.
I'm using tyween's TyphooN CM7 nightly (3.3.3), Magldr 1.13, & CWM. Radio 2.12.50.02_2

I tried switching my radio to 2.12.50, and I tried 3 different SD cards. It didn't help. I switched back to 2.15.50.
I don't know if it makes any difference but my signal is low (2 asu).
I also tried clearing all my data/dalvik cache/cache (after backing up of course). Then I installed HyperDroid-CM7-v2.1.0. It made no difference.
Anyone have any clues what could be wrong? Is it a hardware problem? I know I originally said it could be overheating but even happens when the phone is barely warm.
Also, if there is a way to turn off HSDPA that could be something I could try (although my network only supports 3G so I can't turn off 3G completely).

I am also having the same problem you described exactly,,,,verified with the Contract killer game.
And at first I also thought it was a hardware issue but freezes are not dependent on the phones heat status...and my HD2 is somewhat overheating from any network-SD card usage.
By the way,,,,I have changed through 7 different Android roms and problem still persists...

Mine also does the same thing and I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it is a hardware issue. My phone can not and will not endure any prolonged use of the internet, and or any apps what so ever. It used to only happen when i was using the mobile network now it does not discriminate, from my understanding its due to excessive overheating and from the BSA joint coming undone from the main cpu. There is a thread about it somewhere not sure where.

WP7 Roms battery dead in 7 hours? Normal?

Before I get flamed I have read all the comments I can find on WP7 Rom battery tricks i.e. camera record after reboot trick, leaving 3g on etc. All Im asking is if other HD2 users are experiencing as little as 6-7 hours of battery life on WP7 roms, iv'e tried xbmod, HD20 and YukiXDA and have tried this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978101.
Phone is hardly used, no phone calls just settings and odd text message and only wifi on when using phone.
I'm gutted because I love WP7, any advice appreciated and am not trying to "Noob" up the forums I just wanted to start a dialogue with other WP7 Rom users.
Thx

Nope, that´s not normal.
There are several possible reasons for your problem. MAGLDR, Radio ROM and SPL versions are crucial. Bad flashing can happen all the time. Plus, an "incompatible" SD card can bring a hell lot of issues, too, as well as an "old" SIM card.
Anyway - I can say that under WP7, I could not reach the same battery lifetime like under WinMo 6.5 - you can more compare to Android (NAND versions). Maximum 2 days at really low usage (week-ends), 1 day with "normal" workload. I could easily double that time under WinMo 6.5.

The HD2 likes battery like i like beer.....as much as possible in the shortest amount of time.

My phone and wifes phone (exact same phone + ROM) work for about 7 hours. ive tried many different tricks, radios, ROMs and no luck. luckily at home and work i have access to charging points, so not so much of a problem. just anooying when we go travelling!

Try latest YukiXDA Rom with 3G on. My phone lasted a day and night ( few calls, texts, games (including installing) Facebook etc. Much improved.

i'm using yuki's latest and mines dead in about 7 hours also (without even using it cos i have a company phone) but some have reported 2 days , i've got the battery tool and my current is usually around -250 sometimes higher before and after camera trick but some have reported 2ma ,, i'm sure i'm using the bat tool wrong lol . gigahurtz whats your current
marty

Should i convert from WIN6.5 to Android ?

Hello all,
Firstly a big thank you to all on this site for offering such a fantastic platform to rebuild our priced gadgets to something which is more user friendly...
I aint no techie but in the past have used this site to upgrade the ROM/RADIO for my HTC HD2 phone as was constantly facing a drop in signal and the phone booting up etc...
My current details are as listed below:
OS 5.2.21913(21913.5.0.94)
Manila version 2.5.20181527.1
Rom version 3.14.161.3 (04666) WWE
Rom date 15Dec 2010
Radio version 2.15.50.14
Protocol version 15.42.50.11U
some of my queries:
- I am thinking of converting this to a complete Android OS... Is this possible on the above specs ?
- Is the benefit with Android only to do with additional applications available in the MARKET (WIN6.5 hardly has any and most are charged!) or will i get a better connectivity/signal strength and a better battery life ?
- I noticed on a few forums about a dual boot with Android on the SD card but am not keen on booting the phone every now and then.. would rather stick to one - Android or W6.5
- I do have a problem with the phone sometimes while browsing with Opera or IE. The phone heats up a lot and then just shuts off or the screen freezes and I need to open the battery slot, get the battery out, reinsert and then start the phone all over again. Its quiet sad thing and yet I love the damn phone!
I apologize in advance in case if I have posted this wrongly in this forum. Kindly point me to the right direction, as always...
Cheers!
HTC fan from India

Do it, there is a tool that can do it for you without much hassle, nice simple gui. I would suggest doing the nand android method instead of booting from sd.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

enigma075 said:
Hello all,
Firstly a big thank you to all on this site for offering such a fantastic platform to rebuild our priced gadgets to something which is more user friendly...
I aint no techie but in the past have used this site to upgrade the ROM/RADIO for my HTC HD2 phone as was constantly facing a drop in signal and the phone booting up etc...
My current details are as listed below:
OS 5.2.21913(21913.5.0.94)
Manila version 2.5.20181527.1
Rom version 3.14.161.3 (04666) WWE
Rom date 15Dec 2010
Radio version 2.15.50.14
Protocol version 15.42.50.11U
some of my queries:
- I am thinking of converting this to a complete Android OS... Is this possible on the above specs ?
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yes
- Is the benefit with Android only to do with additional applications available in the MARKET (WIN6.5 hardly has any and most are charged!)
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yes
or will i get a better connectivity/signal strength and a better battery life ?
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- I noticed on a few forums about a dual boot with Android on the SD card but am not keen on booting the phone every now and then.. would rather stick to one - Android or W6.5
- I do have a problem with the phone sometimes while browsing with Opera or IE. The phone heats up a lot and then just shuts off or the screen freezes and I need to open the battery slot, get the battery out, reinsert and then start the phone all over again. Its quiet sad thing and yet I love the damn phone!
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oh dear, that doesn't sound good, I'd suspect overheating leading to hardware faults. As an example I can browse and listen to music all day long with very little temperature change. Winmo or android.
I apologize in advance in case if I have posted this wrongly in this forum. Kindly point me to the right direction, as always...
Cheers!
HTC fan from India
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Summary,,, if you want to change, change, if you don't, don't. Android wont make the phone "better" but it will give you new stuff to play with.
That being said I'd be wary of too much flashing since it sounds like you have possible hardware problems on the horizon,,be a shame to get stuck in an unflashable state.

hello guys... thank you both for your encouragement... would rather flash the phone and play around with something new instead of letting it die a natural death...
Whats the latest version of the NAND ANDROID that you guys recommend ? ne links on it with a detailed description...step by step... i aint a techie remember..
thanks for the views and responses...
Cheers!

I had the same dilemma a few days ago, ended up putting on the NAND rom of android and it obviously a lot better to play around with than winmo but the battery life is not as good as with winmo on. Still lasts a couple of days on standby with a little bit of use.
The rom I would reccommend is the one I flashed, Typhoon cyanogen mod 7 without sense but every thing works perfectly on it so far.
Here's a link to it : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
Once you have installed it set the cpu with SetCpu app to about 800 mhz and it works fine without getting overly hot.

ryan123459 said:
I had the same dilemma a few days ago, ended up putting on the NAND rom of android and it obviously a lot better to play around with than winmo but the battery life is not as good as with winmo on. Still lasts a couple of days on standby with a little bit of use.
The rom I would reccommend is the one I flashed, Typhoon cyanogen mod 7 without sense but every thing works perfectly on it so far.
Here's a link to it : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
Once you have installed it set the cpu with SetCpu app to about 800 mhz and it works fine without getting overly hot.
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Also, by tweaking the CPU VDD levels you will provide to keep your phone colder and squeeze some more juice from the battery: you can find all the instructions on the first page of Tyween's thread (the link above).

hi there... thanks both for your response... is the version provided in your message the latest files/version that is available for download or are there any other versions to look around for ?
Before flashing I plan to save my contacts with msn mobile... it saves my contacts and sms's... will i be able to recover it in the same format after i upload android ?
noticed on some forums that gsensor is a problem... does it impact the functioning so much on android ?
One of you mentioned 'sense' will not work on android... does that mean the seamless touch that is there on w6.5 will no longer be applicable...
requesting all this information just to be double sure b4 going ahead with something major like this...
are there any video tutorials on this ? the link as so many sublinks... i am thoroughly confused...
thanks in advance for your response...

The version of android is 2.3.5, the latest version at the moment I think.
The G sensor works fine on mine I have been playing games which use the sensor.
The phone touch will work fine its just you won't have the htc customization of clocks etc.
I'm not sure about saving contacts but if you could somehow save the contacts with a Google account it would be straight forward getting them onto android.
So to sum up everything seems to work fine as it would on Android though the battery doesn't last as long, but it still lasts a considerable time for a smartphone.
If you follow the link for the Rom I posted, in there, there is a instruction document made by someone which is very easy to follow. Just follow it step by step and you should be just fine.
PS make sure you backup anything you require before starting the process.

Good Afternoon
A friend of mine wants to install Android onto his device and wants me to do it for him as he doesn't want to mess it up.
Is there any sort of idiot guide to show me how to do this, I don't think it'll be easy as when I update the ROMs on my Desire HD
Also which build would one recommend, I want something he can use wiht any issues if possible.
Thanks in advance

hi ryan,
thanks for your revert mate... and clarifying about the gsensor. When you say the standard HTC application like 'clock etc' will not be there... would that take away the weather background which I so like... is there something similar available in the android market to download at a later stage (i love the weather thing HTC has to offer)...
Never tried google to synchronize my phone contacts... is it done through USB or over the air using 2G or something like that (sorry am quiet a novice with gmail!). Will it sync my sms's too... ?
I have changed my battery and no longer use the original HTC one... as it would drain out in a few hours inspite of me using the phone sparingly. I now use a chinese battery from the last few months and it lasts me a good 1.5-2days at max...
Will my service provider in India 'Loop Mobile' be able to send me the new settings that are compatible with android ? Being a weekend I don't want to loose out on contact sync in the middle of the night if the data plan is not activated again...ne suggestions would be appreciated..

There is a clock-weather app in the market which is similar to HTC sense's.
Not sure how google sync works with winmo you would have to figure that out.
About the service proivder I can't be 100% sure as my first android rom on SD didn't work straight away with T-mobile uk but this typhoon one worked straight away, but if you had setting on winmo you should be able to get it on android.

Software Guru said:
Good Afternoon
A friend of mine wants to install Android onto his device and wants me to do it for him as he doesn't want to mess it up.
Is there any sort of idiot guide to show me how to do this, I don't think it'll be easy as when I update the ROMs on my Desire HD
Also which build would one recommend, I want something he can use wiht any issues if possible.
Thanks in advance
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Follow the link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
and under install tutorials use the clean installation guide, which I used and it tells you step by step what to do, remember to download all the required files first which are all in the link.

Hi, use "SpriteMigrate" to transfer your sms from winmo to android.
I prefer Typhoon, here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951

hi there... i just checked up the "spritemigrate" site and they have closed their FREE BETA application... what a shame as it seemed like the perfect solution to my problem of storing sms/contacts before flashing the phone...
any other options ?
cheers and thanks for writing in mate...

hi there again... as mentioned in my earlier posts... i have sync my phone to msn mobile and hence all my contacts and sms's are backed up every night on msn... once i move to android.. will i be able to sync the phone again just as i did with w6.5 ?
I do have a gmail account but not sure if they have the feature of storing sms's along with the contacts in google mobile. I am frustrated trying to figure out an option for contacts and sms's together.. any help would be appreciated...
cheers!

Oh Lord... I am so frustrated... spent the whole afternoon trying to figure out to save contacts and sms's online somewhere before i flash my phone but sadly no luck... just realised msn-my phone service has been deactivated and most other services are paid services...
Guess this is the only thing that is stopping me now from flashing the phone inspite of downloading most of the required files...
My last attempt - any help guys ?!?!?
thanks in advance...
Cheers!

Hi Enigma075, a little off topic but watch out with flashing in case the issues that you've described get worse. The symptoms you're describing, phone heating and screen unresponsive are exactly what happened to my HD2 recently. A week or two after it started the screen became entirely unresponsive and now HTC are (hopefully) fixing it.
Have a search on google, a few other people have encountered this as well.

I recommend trying SD first.
Note that some users reported NAND android to cause bad blocks in the NAND. so if anything bad happens, you might not be able to flash windows again. Read a lot about specific NAND build before you try them.
SD builds cause bad blocks on SD card, which is easily repairable. on NAND, it's not easy, if possible.

hello Dr. Move & Wsummers,
thank you both for responding to my post. I guess I would go in for the SD first as its getting extremely frustrating to save my contacts somewhere and then put it back again on NAND plus the tension of bricking the phone completely...
Are you able to advise me on the latest link on the SD version ? Have a few questions on this method:
- Will the phone become slow in terms of usage ?
- Will I have to reload the contacts again when i boot it to the sd android mode ?
- Whats the battery response like ?
Thanks again for your insights...
Cheers!

you can use titanium backup to backup your contacts, it'll save you quite sometime. alternatively, you can export your contacts to your SD and reload them again on the SD version.
Newer SD build are quite fast in terms of usage, not as fast as the NAND, but the difference is barely noticeable.. but that depends on how you use your device. Note that some games may not work on certain SD versions.
You can try the two versions in my sig, I've tried both for more than a month, and they're quite stable.
Battery consumption in standby is low in new builds, I get around 7 mA/h when the phone is on and 3 mA/h on airplane mode. some people experience even lower values. it depends more on your SD, and the network coverage.
in hourly terms, you'll lose ~1% per hour, and ~1% every two hours on airplane mode.
if you have any problems regarding the SD version, you can check my troubleshooter (in my sig), or ask me directly