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Following on from THIS thread which raises a valid point imo...
The Galaxy Spica (also known as the i5700) has been blessed with multitouch support in some homebrew drivers that are making their way into homebrew kernels for homebrew ROMs, despite the official line that said phone doesn't support more than one finger at a time. Really drives home the point that "support" can refer both to the hardware's capability and the manufacturer's willingness to maximize it, doesn't it?
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-mobile.engadget.com
...MT may just be possible after all.
It means nothing.
IBTL.
Candy[MAN] said:
It means nothing.
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Or could mean it is possible, but will take a developer to realise it.
thought hardware cant support more than 1 finger at a time so regardless of what devs can come up with, its not gonna work??
or has someone identified what panel the x10 is using and im talking nonsense?
wing_zero8556 said:
thought hardware cant support more than 1 finger at a time so regardless of what devs can come up with, its not gonna work??
or has someone identified what panel the x10 is using and im talking nonsense?
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To my knowledge no one has discovered what model the touch panel is. Right now the official word from SE is that the hardware doesn't support it.
wing_zero8556 said:
thought hardware cant support more than 1 finger at a time so regardless of what devs can come up with, its not gonna work??
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Who knows now, but this news opens up to the possibility that it just might work...
despite the official line that said phone doesn't support more than one finger at a time.
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As far as i am concerned, i dont really care if we get MT or not. But i dont see why SE would release their top end android phone without putting a MT capable digitizer on it, whether they enable MT or not. Maybe they know it is capable but never enabled it because of copyright issues with crapple.
This is just another pointless thread, When we crack the boot loader and can put on Custom Roms we will find out if its a yes or a no, till then we can all debade the meanings of life and all the other types to topics that are there to waste time.
Chewitt said:
This is just another pointless thread
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It might be, in your opinion, the point of the thread is to highlight that another handset of which it's maker said MT wasn't available now actually is thanks to a developer, so there just might be a possibility that other handsets sold with no MT support might not necessarily be because of a hardware issue.
ddewbofh said:
To my knowledge no one has discovered what model the touch panel is. Right now the official word from SE is that the hardware doesn't support it.
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they have to say something, if it supports, SE wont launch drivers for it so soon... Without know the model of the panel, no way to know.
tigger69 said:
As far as i am concerned, i dont really care if we get MT or not. But i dont see why SE would release their top end android phone without putting a MT capable digitizer on it, whether they enable MT or not. Maybe they know it is capable but never enabled it because of copyright issues with crapple.
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I just love how you refer to it everytime without fail, as crapple.
I think the best way is asking a SE dev if x10 supports MT
Maybe SE will enable it on 2.1 if the hardware supports it....
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Im closing this because it could have easily been put into the other multitouch debate threads
You can see a massive speed up with AOSP
Games are smoother
Loading times are faster
Finally i feel like my x10 is working for me instead of against me.
The disabled video decoder does make the cpu use alot more battery watching video.
Once the Dual touch driver comes to light we will be in heaven.
Now if i could only find a deep black theme.
Notice anything not working? I'm trying to decide if I want to learn everything I need to do to install this.
Shouldn't this be in the dev forum?
SKYLINESSUCK said:
Notice anything not working? I'm trying to decide if I want to learn everything I need to do to install this.
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Adding contacts in HIDialler, camera settings, random reboots (sometimes a reeboot while rebooting), some apps wont work (dunno why), PHONE DIAL OUT LOOP (REALLY SUCKS)...
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I'm going to wait until the next update to hopefully iron out the rest of the bugs and errors.
MT will be amazing.
Will the custom 2.2 rom ever be ready for normal use?
ssj_jaypee said:
I'm going to wait until the next update to hopefully iron out the rest of the bugs and errors.
MT will be amazing.
Will the custom 2.2 rom ever be ready for normal use?
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I'm gonna reflash it to official ROM tomorrow and flash the custom ROM as soon as PHONE DIAL OUT LOOP is fixed...
MT... :3 uuuh cant wait =)
I think so, you know they r working very hard on it
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lornova said:
Shouldn't this be in the dev forum?
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Perhaps, but I think it's appropriate in here without adding any clutter. I certainly appreciate the review. Despite loosely following the main thread myself, it's challenging to deal with all the scattered posts trying to troubleshoot, report problems, etc. I hope the mods can leave it here.
lornova said:
Shouldn't this be in the dev forum?
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i'd say no...dev should be left for dev work - not general discussion.
XPERIA X10 General Discussion about the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 (tips & tricks, etc)
XPERIA X10 Android Development Android development for the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10
i would say definately general
PoTi_96 said:
I'm gonna reflash it to official ROM tomorrow and flash the custom ROM as soon as PHONE DIAL OUT LOOP is fixed...
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Likewise, the only thing stopping me using the ultralight version of AOSP 2.1 is the dial out loop. I am hanging for Jerpelea to get it sorted
It sucks!
I cant call the police/hospital/friends/my mom....
Noone...
This thing should be the first thing fixed in v005
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PoTi_96 said:
It sucks!
I cant call the police/hospital/friends/my mom....
Noone...
This thing should be the first thing fixed in v005
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Dude, calm down. It's more or less of a proof of concept. The devs made this very clear. Absolutely no one has any right to make a complaint whatsoever.
The devs don't owe anything to anyone.
bongd said:
Dude, calm down. It's more or less of a proof of concept. The devs made this very clear. Absolutely no one has any right to make a complaint whatsoever.
The devs don't owe anything to anyone.
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I am down ^^
But it still sucks xD
I said should be... not must be ^^
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Did u notice that the menu button unlocks the screen when waked up?
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Yes actually we owe them.
Is there a way too we can get better camera, and working multitouch??
-Sorry about my bad english i'm latvian.
the dev are working for it. just be patient
feliks200 said:
Is there a way too we can get better camera, and working multitouch??
-Sorry about my bad english i'm latvian.
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You can try this ROM and give it a shot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=964223
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i alredy tryed that rom. what to say many many many bugs.
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i alredy tryed that rom. what to say many many many bugs.
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he was suggesting that ROM, because ur thread title asking better camera and multitouch ! sorry bad english
There is NO WAY to get multitouch on our device. Also there is no normal dualtouch for now, only rough software emulation. Maybe some lucky genius could fix chip's firmware to force it return 2 finger coordinates.
Or just crack/bypass bootloader xd
And dual touch = smaller multitouch
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this thread says better camera and multi touch,
well, the answer is get a new phone.
junixquiaoit said:
this thread says better camera and multi touch,
well, the answer is get a new phone.
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Lol.... lol...
How many times we have to say that our phone will propable never get multytouch.
We will sure get dualtouch when devs crack bootloader
DarkThanos said:
Lol.... lol...
We how many times we have to say that our phone will propable never get multytouch.
We will sure get dualtouch when devs crack bootloader
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dual touch is better then single and the emulated dual touch isn't to bad double tab is still better on browser tho as for the camera thats a big no no is fixed focus it will never get better :/
treebill said:
dual touch is better then single and the emulated dual touch isn't to bad double tab is still better on browser tho as for the camera thats a big no no is fixed focus it will never get better :/
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That is best dualtouch or multytouch depeds on the default paraments of each... can be set good or bad.
As for the camera there are good apps that shoorten the shot time, so you can take shot easier (photo is better too)
yes, you're right. let's hope that cracking the bootloader may give us dual/multi.
but dont let your hopes too high,
...i think that when the bootloader is cracked we will have dualtouch for sure but blagus said it drain too much cpu...
Are you sure that "for sure" ?
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Are you sure that "for sure" ?
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ahh come on "module man" !!
doixanh said:
Are you sure that "for sure" ?
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Why not?... From my point of view , as nobody is sure that we will not manage to make support for dualtouch, thats means "for sure".... but i didnt difine time...
Just read on a blog that Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Gingerbread Update Might Deliver Multi-touch and More.How far can this be true ?
Source: http://www.kashtech.info/2011/06/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-gingerbread.html
Please tell me you weren't aware you posted in the wrong section. Lol
Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
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Lion3494 said:
Please tell me you weren't aware you posted in the wrong section. Dumb axx
Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
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No need for foul languege........ but your right
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Might is a very tame word. Considering the device does not have the ability to handle anything more than dual touch, this is interesting news.
it will bring multi-touch, resolution 1024x768, blu-ray support.. etc..
and all that on 2.9.26 kernel build.. uv, oc too.. come on ppl be happy if that gb even moves with that time/medi-scape s**t...
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it will bring multi-touch, resolution 1024x768, blu-ray support.. etc..
and all that on 2.9.26 kernel build.. uv, oc too.. come on ppl be happy if that gb even moves with that time/medi-scape s**t...
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Are you crazy? It will deliver 1440x900 resolution, 1080p recording at 60fps, 8mp cap lifted to 16.1mp, fps cap lifted to 58fps including 3D with some accents of time/mediapain.
Well, this was originally posted in brazilian Sony Ericsson official Blog, so I think we could give it a shot. A lot of people said X10 wouldn't support even dual touch, and now we have it. Maybe Sony Ericsson found a way to fix it, despite the hardware limitation, bypassing, I don't know. If SE said multitouch will come with the 2.3 update, I guess I will wait hopefully for that.
The source is in portuguese and I'm too lazy to translate it now, but you guys can believe what I'm saying or use a translator .
2.3 also brings: Full HD screen resolution, native .exe execution, CoD Black Ops pre-installed, slide out joypad like on Xperia Play, and Airplane mode finally turns phone into airplane of your choice, just like we all expected when seen it for the first time...
Also, don't forget about kexec exploit fix == stuck on SE's FW... But with all these functions, why would you want to switch to another ROM??? Enjoy
lol hahaha... iam so excited about the new GB update coming soon...
Read somewhere that the official.update will be released.at the end of July.
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KInG GaME said:
Z dual core in x10! or are you just joking
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Nope. He hacked the CPU power to route it through a Galaxy S2
Pshhh dual core is sooo the day before, talk to me when you have 8 cores implemented
You need Galaxy S II, then with simple CPU reroute process via Wi-Fi, BT, J-Tag, USB and a few more solder points you connect X10 to Galaxy's CPU.
Then you take super glue, and stick the phones together. zdzihu will publish the pictures soon
It was easy, and during the process RSA key was found - it was a nice surprise to find all root, red and brown keys under the CPU on a piece of paper, hand-written with signature of SE's CEO
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Sorry to say but SE won't be able to deliver this... the only person who could has already left XDA
Sent from my X10 having 50% dual core implemented
Cheers,
z
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Haha lol, I didn't expect you to reply but it was sarcastic meant For if you didn't get it XD
Btw, nice I've got also 50% of Dual Core power in my phone !
OmegaRED^ said:
Are you serious. then it's true the only dev that ever got that far has been banned.
Oddly right after the arc rom with that very feature showed up the trolling started.
Ironic?
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Yeah not to mention Unified basedband, Fps uncap on stock kernel, Tethering on stock kernel and many more, since he's gone all hope is gone, now we have only the official Gb from SE to look forward to, hehe
riginal said:
Yeah not to mention Unified basedband, Fps uncap on stock kernel, Tethering on stock kernel and many more, since he's gone all hope is gone, now we have only the official Gb from SE to look forward to, hehe
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Don't forget, he will make MIUI Gingerbread final fix all possible bugs etc before he leaves us. He has already ordered a HTC Sensation...
PlayGunsta said:
Don't forget, he will make MIUI Gingerbread final fix all possible bugs etc before he leaves us. He has already ordered a HTC Sensation...
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Well good for you because I don't use his roms
riginal said:
Well good for you because I don't use his roms
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You maybe not, but I like MIUI and he seems the only one to deliver it the most-bug-free. Not saying that R is a bad developer.
PlayGunsta said:
You maybe not, but I like MIUI and he seems the only one to deliver it the most-bug-free. Not saying that R is a bad developer.
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Well I like MIUI too, I switched from one of trip's earlier versions I think it was 1.0.4 to Cobrato's MIUI & couldn't be happier, everything works as it should
Update : Cam now works for all CM ROM.
Thanks for doixanh for his/her work!!
Because of Sony Ericsson.
howardmatthew168 said:
Hi guys.. I want to ask something.
Why all of Gingerbread ROM had the camera VGA limited??
Sorry for my bad english...
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Devs can't use the existing camera libs from 2.1 ROM neither apply patch on them as they did for froyo, so they need to rewrite them for Gingerbread..but this is extremely difficult..
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anant123 said:
Devs can't use the existing camera libs from 2.1 ROM neither apply patch on them as they did for froyo, so they need to rewrite them for Gingerbread..but this is extremely difficult..
correct me if I'm wrong...
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Ur right
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yeah!, i use GingerCruzt ... and the camera limited too, i dont know why ..
make.disappointed
SaktiMcQueen said:
yeah!, i use GingerCruzt ... and the camera limited too, i dont know why ..
make.disappointed
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Omfg cuz its gingerbread?! You need to rewrite libcamera which needs a lot of effort
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if u wanna it, u can try another ROM which no limited camera
SaktiMcQueen said:
yeah!, i use GingerCruzt ... and the camera limited too, i dont know why ..
make.disappointed
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Try froyobread its the best rom im testing kuyadroid right now and its pretty good.
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Owh.... I think Gingerbread camera just stuck at VGA because the system don't capture 3MP. But, can we just get another phone libs to our phone?? (Sorry i'm newbie, just want to more learn) Also sorry for bad english
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Owh.... I think Gingerbread camera just stuck at VGA because the system don't capture 3MP. But, can we just get another phone libs to our phone?? (Sorry i'm newbie, just want to more learn) Also sorry for bad english
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I've already said why and no we can't...if it was that easy devs would have done it from the beginning!
FroyoBreads camera is 2048x1536
so froyo based ROMs doesn't have the VGA limitations?
anyone knows where to download these camera libs?? I'll try to rewrite...
qweasd1111 said:
so froyo based ROMs doesn't have the VGA limitations?
anyone knows where to download these camera libs?? I'll try to rewrite...
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You're funny.
If experienced devs found it hard, how can someone like you "rewrite it"
If you need cam, use froyo...
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Dare-Devil Inside said:
You're funny.
If experienced devs found it hard, how can someone like you "rewrite it"
If you need cam, use froyo...
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and why people would like to use custom gingerbread? what's the different?
neilhoja said:
and why people would like to use custom gingerbread? what's the different?
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It's gingerbread. It's up-to-date and a lot's of new features are avaliable
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You're funny.
If experienced devs found it hard, how can someone like you "rewrite it"
If you need cam, use froyo...
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man just get rid of your "mocking" the others habit cause it's really UN-cool ! wth "some one like you" like if he was a **** grade begger begging at your door.....just respect the people DDI or ignore them at least !!
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You're funny.
If experienced devs found it hard, how can someone like you "rewrite it"
If you need cam, use froyo...
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you talk like you know me.
maybe it's not that hard just it takes a lot of work
They have to rewrite libcamera cos they can't patch libcamera from stock sources. Thus, VGA for us until some genius rewrites/patches libcamera. And DDI, just let him try, it won't hurt. Besides, he's willing to spend time and effort so don't just act superior with your condescending and discouraging tone. Support those ppl who attempt to make a difference for ppl like us .
Froyobreads ROMs dont have VGA limit because they aren't Gingerbread/CM7 -> Froyobread based on CM6 (in CM6 camera have no limits).
Gingerbread have limits because devs schould edit ROM source to fix them. This is so dificult. We just waiting .
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They have to rewrite libcamera cos they can't patch libcamera from stock sources. Thus, VGA for us until some genius rewrites/patches libcamera. And DDI, just let him try, it won't hurt. Besides, he's willing to spend time and effort so don't just act superior with your condescending and discouraging tone. Support those ppl who attempt to make a difference for ppl like us .
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Froyobreads ROMs dont have VGA limit because they aren't Gingerbread/CM7 -> Froyobread based on CM6 (in CM6 camera have no limits).
Gingerbread have limits because devs schould edit ROM source to fix them. This is so dificult. We just waiting .
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So are devs are working on it? i see the dev only developing froyo, also i know Froyobread is not VGA limited, it just a Froyo that customized to be like Gingerbread, but really, i hate the rom. I felt the rom has a minus point, but i can't find it.
DDI, if u said better use froyo, use by yourself! your post just make my mood low!
My bad english!