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SE, shame on you

Hi, after I have seen round the web what SE's project is working on,
Xxxx://xxx.pcworld.com/article/203117/sony_planning_psp_phone_android_30_gaming_platform.html
I feel to advice all the future SE customers on what they may experience with Customer Support.
I will spam all possible forums regarding the next SE gadget.
It may be useless my small battle but.... the more people are aware of their shameful CS, the less sales should follow.
What do you think?
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I think this thread should be closed....that's what I think
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i don't get the point of this?
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Watch your language elson14, I didn't meen to upset nobody.
What would you do to advice future SE customers?
Probably you are one who is going to buy the Android/PSP and later complaint because of some OS limitation?
Again, watch your language and grow up a bit, your neurons are begging for it.
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"SE, shame on you"
I agree. The whole firmware lockdown of a good smartphone is purely about future sales. The PSP-phone explains everything, eg. why Flash is not supported by long delayed 2.1.
Companies shouldn't get away with treating all users like idiots. More power to the hackers..

You should be happy that the X10 isnt bugridden like the GS. It was SEs first android phone and i think they did a commendable job. I am sure they have learnt and will treat us better the next time. All said, i love my X10.

I7redd said:
"SE, shame on you"
I agree. The whole firmware lockdown of a good smartphone is purely about future sales. The PSP-phone explains everything, eg. why Flash is not supported by long delayed 2.1.
Companies shouldn't get away with treating all users like idiots. More power to the hackers..
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Thanks, this is what I was trying to say, since English is not my first language, sometimes I even don't understand myself LOl.
I didn't buy the iPhone because of the many restrictions and others limitations.
I was happy, I still happy with the x10 ( I am just waiting for the good news from the dev) butI am furious with SE, there is nothing I can do to harm them but I can spread my experience, the smarter will know what other mobile to buy, the others... will feed the beast.
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celletta said:
Hi, after I have seen round the web what SE's project is working on,
Xxxx://xxx.pcworld.com/article/203117/sony_planning_psp_phone_android_30_gaming_platform.html
I feel to advice all the future SE customers on what they may experience with Customer Support.
I will spam all possible forums regarding the next SE gadget.
It may be useless my small battle but.... the more people are aware of their shameful CS, the less sales should follow.
What do you think?
Sent from my X10i using Tapatalk
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For god sake there human...
They are not robots and SE has procrastinated with this update because in all this time they couldn't have done such little and yet they did.
This thread should be locked/closed in my opinion because they have said that they learnt from there mistakes.

zm4 said:
For god sake there human...
They are not robots and SE has procrastinated with this update because in all this time they couldn't have done such little and yet they did.
This thread should be locked/closed in my opinion because they have said that they learnt from there mistakes.
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lol htc people are humans. howcome they have better os?
and when i call se cs they r teribble some of them doesnt even have knowledge about x10. i think u have to be idiot to work at sony ericsson

hmm, normally i dont post on this kinda useless topics, but ok here u have it
1. wtf u complainin about someones language? the language is 100% proper and isnt offending anyone in any way...
2. since se makes something new, what u think they only do that stuff? jeez wake up there isnt only 1 team making stuff u know, and so whut they need to live and work their ways in the market also
3. yeah se is slow, but have u ever seen what u get? go to htc or smthn and have a crappy camera laggy phone etc.etc.etc. i rather get the good things
4. idk if u noticed but this forum isnt made to go wild against se u know..
5. the ppl u get on a phone at se, duh they are not the brightest people thats an fact, but wich helpdesk is?
6. OLD NEWS about the game phone
u know i'll stop by now it has no sence at all to react but yea here have my thought about ur senseless post
sincerely Hawky

I7redd said:
"SE, shame on you"
I agree. The whole firmware lock-down of a good smartphone is purely about future sales. The PSP-phone explains everything, eg. why Flash is not supported by long delayed 2.1.
Companies shouldn't get away with treating all users like idiots. More power to the hackers..
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SE is acting like they are market share leaders instead of near the bottom. If someone asked me if the should get a SE phone unless it was dirt cheap I would say no.

I honestly don't know why people still complaining
First of all there is not a single help-desk that knows everything about products.
Second of all, X10i was their first Android OS, and yet if you looked at any device that used that O.S you will find a huge difference in terms of performance or stability.
And I do liked the fact they locked the bootloader ( yes I do ) because I always want to be different than others, look at all the other devices ( same menu same interface ) with a little difference in applications used.
plus if SE will skip 2.2 that means 3.0 will be released as soon as it is available in the market, in other words, SE will be the first to get it

You guys should hop over to the nexus one general section. It seems HTC has produced some horror stories too.

se_dude said:
You should be happy that the X10 isnt bugridden like the GS. It was SEs first android phone and i think they did a commendable job. I am sure they have learnt and will treat us better the next time. All said, i love my X10.
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+1
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Hoping this forum just tell the truth. What so bad about x10 with 1.6. I my self is very satisfy. Although there are many improvement in 2.1. But just wait and patience.
Sometimes people are so funny. They compare x10 with another phone they don't really know. As I say... X10 is better than other phone and other brands. Really.
Just write and complain according to the truth. Don't spread rumor with nonsense.
I agree with other wise friends to close this thread.
Gunawan, GN Mutimedia & X10i

Get a life.stop complaining..if u dnt like se fones,sell it..go n buy htc plastic fone.hahaha.
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I left Sony along time ago, got myself a desire, you guys are wasting you time with Sony seriously. They take the pi** with their overrated products... the only reason I'm here is because my girlfriend wants me to keep her updated on 2.1...
Go with another company people seriously
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I really would like to sell this peace of, but not for less than a half that i payed..
I dont complaing about flash player , speed ,...
Just could be able to hear and to be heard... and not have a "iron man" nick name due voice distortion...
but even worse.
SE, if you cant do the job, just say "i will not update this crap software, stupid consumer"
Man, phones have names, and SE is not one of them.

Htc is no better, they made tons of smart phone only fews rise to the top. Still they cant pass the ugly radar.
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This thread is a waste of 30 seconds of my life.

Reaction from SE on Bootloader Bypass

Hello everyone
I know this thread has not important purpose.
But I just wated to ask some of the XDA members who are also working in SE development team.... what was their and their colleagues' in SE team reaction to the bootloader being bypassed...
Was there any blame naming or a solution finding tasks....
As in total was there panic or were they prepared that this day would come?

As SE is technically deprecating X10 and the other first Xperias, and they're focusing in Arc/Neo/Play, they shouldn't have a negative reaction about it, unless they're afraid that ppl is not going to buy the new Xperias just because bootloader is bypassed, but thinking in that way would be a mistake (one more...), particulary if they stated that the new phones are good and fast enough; under that point of view, a custom ROM won't be needed, so bypassing the bootloader shouldn't be necessary and there should be nothing to worry about, new Xperia owners would rather to stick with SE stock ROM.
So, I believe that the reaction from SE shouldn't be hard, they will only say something like "we encourage people to keep using stock ROM because is better, improves a lot the UXP and blah blah" or something like it.

So has the bootloader been bypassed?

admartian said:
So has the bootloader been bypassed?
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Read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726813 but don't post on this thread unless you know what you are talking about and are a dev. Go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001308 for discussion.
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Why would they be annoyed or bothered?
Every developer knows that there is no 100% security on software world. The bootloader will be solved sooner or later and they know that

What can be locked can be unlocked or in this case, bypassed

I don't understand threads like this yet. It is still in a very early stage, will probably be months at least before we can really benefit from it. By then the arc/play/neo will probably be orphaned just like the x10...

What is with other members creating threads attempting to get attention from SE for other dev's work, or representing themselves like they are embassadors for xda?
Did you even think to ask Bin4ry if he wanted their 2 cents yet? It seems to me that calling out the SE devs like this can only insult their pride leading to even deeper security measures in the future making things harder for the devs. Think about it! Don't instigate them.
On top of that, let the devs get it working even a little bit before you start advertising it, or trying to rub it in SE's face.
Total panic? It's not like we broke the launch codes for a nuclear weapon.

agentJBM said:
What is with other members creating threads attempting to get attention from SE for other dev's work, or representing themselves like they are embassadors for xda?
Did you even think to ask Bin4ry if he wanted their 2 cents yet? It seems to me that calling out the SE devs like this can only insult their pride leading to even deeper security measures in the future making things harder for the devs. Think about it! Don't instigate them.
On top of that, let the devs get it working even a little bit before you start advertising it, or trying to rub it in SE's face.
Total panic? It's not like we broke the launch codes for a nuclear weapon.
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+1 i agree
However, when this does get working id love to hear what SE think.
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What I think is we should be grateful to the guys that spend endless hours to do what they do for this cell phone ( I am talking bout the xda guys ) and as others said , rubbing things like this to SE makes no sense.
And no, I don't care to listen to what SE has to say bout it. If I were SE, I would not like it and from SE's perspective it makes perfect sense. So, the less people rub things like that to them , the better.

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agentJBM said:
What is with other members creating threads attempting to get attention from SE for other dev's work, or representing themselves like they are embassadors for xda?
Did you even think to ask Bin4ry if he wanted their 2 cents yet? It seems to me that calling out the SE devs like this can only insult their pride leading to even deeper security measures in the future making things harder for the devs. Think about it! Don't instigate them.
On top of that, let the devs get it working even a little bit before you start advertising it, or trying to rub it in SE's face.
Total panic? It's not like we broke the launch codes for a nuclear weapon.
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Of course SE is not going to like it.
It's kind of like locking something in a safe and some guy crack the code for it breaking in. I agree with the posts above, no need to rub it in their face.
I don't understand why they lock the phone potential in the first place?

By the time we get 2.3.3 gingerbread released and confirmed by se i guess they will be done cracking it or at least lets hope!
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I'm just waiting for GeoHot to upload a YouTube video explaining how they same encryption key he found in the PS3 is the same used on all SE phones.
cut scene to: every SE Employee doing a *facepalm* at the same time.

Hobbes2099 said:
I'm just waiting for GeoHot to upload a YouTube video explaining how they same encryption key he found in the PS3 is the same used on all SE phones.
cut scene to: every SE Employee doing a *facepalm* at the same time.
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I like that xD

perhaps hacking the bootloader made SE a bad consience about their user support so that they decided to bring gingerbread to the x10 now... who knows^^

agentJBM said:
It seems to me that calling out the SE devs like this can only insult their pride leading to even deeper security measures in the future making things harder for the devs. Think about it! Don't instigate them.
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You really need to get a grip on reality. The idea that a stupid thread would have such an impact is preposterous

Although i understand why Sony is pissed at GeoHot for unlocking the PS3 (since it provides access to piracy), i can´t understand why SE would be as pissed with the X10. Unlocking the X10 doesn´t allow us to pirate software. We´re all using free software or pay for the apps, and we would still do it in the future.
Geohot discovered the keys to the PS3 (money, money, money.... ups the key got leaked... i mean, i discovered it!), but the same will not happen with the X10. Not only is the process quite different, but after what happened with the PS3, i can guarantee that the key won´t be leaked (or found by a famous hacker).
This thread doesn´t even tickle SE (nor the hundreds of threads about progress on the bootloader). What causes an insane itch on SE, is the fact that the dev's are going in the right direction. I know that the unlocking of the X10, or the Arc, Neo, etc, doesn´t cause any serious problem. I cannot say the same about Xperia Play. If this phone is developed the same way as X10, Arc, etc, piracy will be again enabled on the Play, therefore causing huge losses on the software houses.
Eitherway that´s my point of view...

Our devs are great They worked so hard at finding the key to unlock the door, and stumbled upon a way to go through the window XD

DeViL_DiCe said:
I cannot say the same about Xperia Play. If this phone is developed the same way as X10, Arc, etc, piracy will be again enabled on the Play, therefore causing huge losses on the software houses.
Eitherway that´s my point of view...
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This is what I think is the main purpose behind the bulletproof bootloader. Sony wants to create and control a higher end mobile gamming platform that will be licenced to other cell phone manufactures, giving them a huge install base. The x10 was just a pawn to test the bootloader's security.

X10 getting 2.3, x8 and mini still stuck on 2.1 with no plans to update

Looks like all the QQ did some good. For x10 owners at least.
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/¸
P.S. Probably has something to do with the x10 bootloader being bypassed and the good progress devs are having with loading custom kernels.

yes i think also SE is scared about loosing conrtol about there own devices. So they want to bind us again to themselfe.

Yeah,we already know that

nope we already got 2.3..through xda dev

Meh! Again we are left high and dry.We didn't get dual touch update either and now this too.
Why can't we get both x10 and x8 ,2.3, because SE doesn't have resources. And here we have J providing gingerbread to entire xperia series with help of some devs!
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Will you upgrade the XperiaTM X10 mini, mini pro and XperiaTM X8 to 2.3?
No, we have no such plans. We have had to prioritize our resources and have therefore focused on delivering the upgrade to XperiaTM X10.
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They have to prioritize their team to provide 2.3 for only X10. While most work to bring CM7 to X10/X10mini/X8 has been done by only 2 devs: jerpelea and racht. Such a shame to SE.

What a ****ty news, I feel like smashing my phone in S.E. face... hope no S.E. worker gets in my sight cause I am mad as hell! I mean come on, I was ok with the 2.1 on all current xperia line but this ? WTF is with this discrimination, F*** THEM!

Wait,xperia line was always updated together and new cerficated update was relased on 23 of march for x8.
Please sony update x8 and x10 minis too.

if they won't update x8 to 2.3 or 2.2, i won't buy another SE phone !!! never !!! and i think that i'm not the only one

as-mario said:
Wait,xperia line was always updated together and new cerficated update was relased on 23 of march for x8.
Please sony update x8 and x10 minis too.
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i hope se have some time to read this thread

I will break forum rules now...
SSSSSSSHHHHHIIIIITTTT
SONY IS A SHHHHHIIIITTTTIIINNNNGGG ****!!!!
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I love my X8 but...
Don't get me wrong, I love my X8. However this is the first, and last, time I shall ever buy a Sony phone. I only bought mine last December, after a big Christmas marketing push by Vodafone here in Portugal. Imagine my dismay (and disgust!) to discover, after less than a month, that Sony already considered the phone obsolete before I'd even bought it :-(
Oh well. Live and learn I suppose (but it also makes me much less likely to buy anything Sony in the future...)

Rendering my x8 obsolete after only 4 months after seeing 1 proper update (1.6 --> 2.1)... not good.
Was planning to upgrade to Xperia Play, but I no longer trust SonyEricsson and have given up all plans of buying any of their products again.
That being said, XDA makes the x8 a very decent little phone. But still the XDA devs are fighting an up-hill struggle against the lockdowns imposed by SE. Thank you XDA, screw you SonyEricsson

droidjens said:
Rendering my x8 obsolete after only 4 months after seeing 1 proper update (1.6 --> 2.1)... not good.
Was planning to upgrade to Xperia Play, but I no longer trust SonyEricsson and have given up all plans of buying any of their products again.
That being said, XDA makes the x8 a very decent little phone. But still the XDA devs are fighting an up-hill struggle against the lockdowns imposed by SE. Thank you XDA, screw you SonyEricsson
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on sonyericsson lauch blog writes no plain,not we will not upgrade x8 and minis just no plain
the real idea is to bypass bootloader so sony ericsson will update x8

Well mates, I think it's time to make some noise in SE blogs, this is not only a discrimination, this feels like your older brother was given by it's mother a bigger and better toy to play with, and we, the younger sons, can play with lego for eternity. Ah... This is a lack of respect, lack of sense, we do not only need that upgrade, we need recon. We are costumers, we spent our money buying the phones, we are SE future, our opinions and thoughts will count in next sales. We can't just be left behind, I know SE certified some firmwares recently, but, if they were thinking to upgrade us, they would have done it now at same time as X10.
Well it seems this is a way too give further security to bootloader, and remove kexec exploit. There's no downgrading after this. It's a terrible choice (my thought). So, we (x8,x10mini/pro owners) don't really need this upgrade since we have J & racht & so many great developers contributing, and I have so much to thank them for the hard work, precious time they take to do it, and for sharing it with XDA community, well I can say, with all users around the world. We are very near to reach total freedom.
Regards

That are not full working roms
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I hate SE businnes strategy...

Doomguy said:
I hate SE businnes strategy...
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Me too but worst is that their profit fall 20% from 2010 and they are so bad to custumers,realy and one more thing why they put so expensive phones in sale,x8 and minis will sell better with better support because they cheap but for 100 $ more i will buy htc wildfire.
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thedailycommute said:
Don't get me wrong, I love my X8. However this is the first, and last, time I shall ever buy a Sony phone. I only bought mine last December, after a big Christmas marketing push by Vodafone here in Portugal. Imagine my dismay (and disgust!) to discover, after less than a month, that Sony already considered the phone obsolete before I'd even bought it :-(
Oh well. Live and learn I suppose (but it also makes me much less likely to buy anything Sony in the future...)
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Cmo eu te compreendo, a mim foi exactamente igual.. xD
I made exactly the same mistake.. :/
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Asdoos said:
yes i think also SE is scared about loosing conrtol about there own devices. So they want to bind us again to themselfe.
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Sony want this upgrade, and maybe this software update will also bring an bootloader upgrade, which will give us no chance of Xrecovery or Root, So, i stay with XDA

Make you own Kernel... By Sony E...

SE realy made a 180 turn
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/developerworld/2011/05/06/how-to-build-a-linux-kernel/
I think in a few times they will provides Overclocking tools, and water cooling for there next phone....

Firstly, old news is so exciting.
Secondly, it's not applicable for our phones, so wrong forum.

Old news?
Dude I only heard about this today and it wasn't here 2 days ago so not really old news.
Just because it wasn't said 5min ago doesn't mean old news.

Mister J said:
Old news?
Dude I only heard about this today and it wasn't here 2 days ago so not really old news.
Just because it wasn't said 5min ago doesn't mean old news.
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Actually it's a bit old, A thread was posted last week in Dev section about this
But not here in general section I guess, and it's better than "OMG android 2.3 is coming" threads so...

Yeah.. DoomLord posted this on the 6/5/2011
But SE has not released this info for the x10.. correct?

OmegaRED^ said:
Yeah.. DoomLord posted this on the 6/5/2011
But SE has not released this info for the x10.. correct?
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correct but it might be helpful for X10 too I guess

I find it ironic that they are gona unlock the x10Mini & MiniPro.
But still say that the x10 is bound by contracts.
Why just the x10?

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I find it ironic that they are gona unlock the x10Mini & MiniPro.
But still say that the x10 is bound by contracts.
Why just the x10?
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Where did you read that?
As far as I know they are only unlocking the new models

Check the comments.
The post done by the developer.

Hi all devs,
Thanks again for all the great replies and feedback!
First I want to mention that Xperia mini and Xperia mini pro will support unlock of bootloader under the same cercumstanses as communicated for the other Xperia 2011 products, i.e. not all phones will support unlocking of the boot loader, as it is based on customer customization.
I see quite a few questions in regards to the X10, I’m sorry if below is not the answer you were waiting for. Below is a summary of my answer in another thread.
Q: Why can’t you unlock the boot loader for X10?
The boot loader is not updated in the Gingerbread upgrade due technical reasons and the risks involved. For example, if the boot loader was to be updated with the Gingerbread upgrade and the upgrade fails for some reason, it would mean that the phone is bricked. So in general we never upgrade the boot loader when we upgrade phones in the market.
Some operators have SIM-locked phones, meaning that these phones can only be used with SIM-cards from the specific operator. This is a common business agreement in the phone industry. The reason for this is that many operators subsidies phones that are bought with a subscription.
In difference to 2011 Xperia™ products when Xperia™ X10 was produced the devices were not populated with info about if they may have an unlocked boot loader or not. This means there is no way for a boot loader to find out if boot loader unlock is allowed. A boot loader with unlock functionality would unlock all Xperia™ X10s. But we cannot do that since we have agreement with several operators regarding what software is in the devices.
Explaining what we mean by “secure way”; when the boot loader is unlocked the phone is wiped. This means that DRM certificates and sensitive keys are deleted along with the user data partition (containing downloaded apps and games, all user data like phonebook, sms etc – very similar to a factory reset).
Hope to continue the dialogue with devs! Tomorrow I, and people from the SE Developer Program, will be at GoogleIO, please come and meet at the Sony Ericsson booth!
Regards,
/Karl-Johan
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He says it's similar to a "factory reset" something some people have already done several times.

I find it odd that they aren't bound by the same agreements with the mini's as they are with the X10. Plus the talk about accidentally bricking the X10 is pretty funny because people who buy high-end android devices are usually more accustomed to tinkering with their devices than the ones who buy the cheap low-end ones. Hardcore vs. casual.
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Omega beat me to it. I should read better, not just scim through.
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This all just supports the SE wants to sell more phones BS.
Or maybe they are scared about what we may find.
If it's just a factory reset then
i am a few seconds away from a complete rage fit.
There's a simple work around for this..
Let us choose to unlock or not..

OmegaRED^ said:
This all just supports the SE wants to sell more phones BS.
Or maybe they are scared about what we may find.
If it's just a factory reset then
i am a few seconds away from a complete rage fit.
There's a simple work around for this..
Let us choose to unlock or not..
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This is going to turn to be like your other thread OmegaRed.
Our X10 is capable of matching the new generation of xperia in performance.
They know it and they want to limit it.
The company will be screwed if everyone decides to buy used x10s instead of their new product lines.
I already see heavy advertising of Xperia play from Rogers.

Exactly!!
There has been alot of different stories from SE.
All of it looks like lies to me.
Cuz so far they keep changing the story.
I'm getting pissed of now.
But i can't deal with this closed source nightmare.
They may have unlocked future models.
but this story makes them look even worse.

Pretty amazing in my opinion, Sony Ericsson has really stepped up their game with their newer line up of phones and different commitments. Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073098

Ahhhhh... um.. i feel like a idiot.
I forgot they released the new mini & minipro phones.

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Ahhhhh... um.. i feel like a idiot.
I forgot they released the new mini & minipro phones.
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Was just gonna point that out to you this info that you posted is for the new mini and mini pro phones and NOT for the old x10 ones . (Oh and no i'm no j.andersson no point in even asking *chuckle*)

here is the link for X10 source code.
Apr 28, 2011
x10a_eclair_2.1.A.0.492.tar.gz
http://developer.sonyericsson.com/w...s/download/x10aeclair21a0492targz?cc=gb&lc=en
Also all other source code as well.... arc/ play/ x10 mini / pro etc.
http://developer.sonyericsson.com/cws/devworld/search-downloads/opensource?cc=gb&lc=en

Bye Sony Ericsson. Hello Sony. And hello Ericsson

Today i woke up and checked my mail. I got this mail from my freind in sweden. Hi again Sondre. I got som bad news. Sony Ericsson is no more. Sony bought them out. Which makes our phones a bit "different".
Post your comment below
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personally i see this as good news, now sony can properly integrate there features together (im looking at you playstation brand)

silvacrest said:
personally i see this as good news, now sony can properly integrate there features together (im looking at you playstation brand)
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I disagree. Sony have confirmed they will not be using Android on there devices in the future.

SondreVAIO... Stop posting 1001 threads about the same damn thing. You've done this multiple times with multiple topics.

source? they will be using around and windows mobile and said that while unlikely they may persue buying palm OS from HP.
however this deal does not go through until early 2012 so expect business as usual.
my source...my uncle who works for S.E in sweden

I think I am going to get a Samsung next time I get a new smartphone, If Sony confirmed there not using Android.

I don't know if I'm gonna like this unless it means more big budget titles come to the Xperia PLAY.
Sony's got a long streak going for dip**** decisions, poor marketing and absolutely dreadful ad campaigns. SE's Kristen Schaal ads for the Xperia PLAY were easily better than any of that garbage Sony tried to market the PS3 with.

who needs sony we have our own comunity here we will build our own ultimate rom if sony leave us in a pit.

DeanBoro said:
I disagree. Sony have confirmed they will not be using Android on there devices in the future.
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Source for this? I know the Vita won't use Android, but it would make sense for them to do it for cellular and tablet devices...

jutley said:
who needs sony we have our own comunity here we will build our own ultimate rom if sony leave us in a pit.
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Unless you have an r800x then, like me sadly, you need sony to release some kernel sources for your device, which may never happen, so in some way I agree with you because Im sure a dev in this community will figure the lil ol' r800x out sooner or later
If sony drops android though I will more then likely go back to Droid line up , Im seeing Droid 4 on Lte kinda tempting
But at the same time Im enjoying the challenge of my r800x, it will be defeated!

TLRtheory said:
I don't know if I'm gonna like this unless it means more big budget titles come to the Xperia PLAY.
Sony's got a long streak going for dip**** decisions, poor marketing and absolutely dreadful ad campaigns. SE's Kristen Schaal ads for the Xperia PLAY were easily better than any of that garbage Sony tried to market the PS3 with.
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I second that. I'm a bit worried too. Indeed Sony has a history of making very very bad decisions by trying to go their own way and fail.

DeanBoro said:
I disagree. Sony have confirmed they will not be using Android on there devices in the future.
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well....your gonna have to show a link for that, SE mentioned a while ago that 80% of there revenue came from their android phones, why would they jump ship now?
in fact i got a quaot for you from engadget:
"Update: Sony president and CEO Sir Howard Stringer has just addressed the media on the proposed buyout and confirmed that the company will indeed move away from feature phones, as previously stated. This effectively heralds the death of the Walkman line and the dawn of Sony's exclusively Android era, though Stringer's not ruling out the possibility of bringing another OS on board. When asked whether his firm would consider buying webOS, the exec said simply, "Never say never."

hairdewx said:
Source for this? I know the Vita won't use Android, but it would make sense for them to do it for cellular and tablet devices...
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Engadget. go read.

Engadget seems to prove you wrong...

Ok here is a source
never mind what I said earlier, But it is important to give a source so that it doesn't cause any confusion.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/27/idUS69098+27-Oct-2011+HUG20111027

RacecarBMW said:
For the millionth time. THIS IS JUST A RUMOR.
UNLESS YOU HAVE A SOURCE TO BACK THAT UP!
yes that was in caps on purpose.
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If i use your drop box link will you get the extra 250mb an myself aswell ?
Random i know...

216Monster said:
If i use your drop box link will you get the extra 250mb an myself aswell ?
Random i know...
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Yes we both will get an extra 250mb.

Logseman said:
Engadget seems to prove you wrong...
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all i have to say to you is. your an ass.

DeanBoro said:
Engadget. go read.
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what? are you spreading bad information on purpose or something?
Engadget pretty much says the exact opposite of what your claiming, sony are ditching feature phones and are going 100% into android
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/27/...nt-venture-assumes-ownersh/#comment-347181325

lol, pwned