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whats the best rom for the not so tech savvy?

thanks for any help =) i just worked my way through the guide for rooting and nandroid backup.. i want to run a rom that will let me increase call volume (ear not speaker) and teather..
any help would be much appreciated!

also how do i know if root worked.. does the fact that i could run nandroid mean it did? i dont see any changes in the settings.

kraash said:
also how do i know if root worked.. does the fact that i could run nandroid mean it did? i dont see any changes in the settings.
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If you can boot into the recovery image or make a Nand backup, then you are in fact rooted.

woooot... root =)

Go with Fresh ROM

OOTB rom would be best for non techies.

heres another thing... all the vids i saw doing the one click root end up with a sweet power user app.
I did the long cmd prompt way and i dont have that. how will i run apps that require root access?

most of the custom roms out there include Super User. I personaly run Fresh 1.1 and like it for a day to day rom since all the important stuff works and I just like the look of it.

yeah i just rooted my Appalachian Wireless hero and loaded up the fresh rom and everything ive used has worked, Im loving this over the stock hero.

unroot using only sd card?

Ok so My phone is not recognized by a computer, i have tried different drivers, cords, ROMs, no matter what I do my phone is not recognized. I took it to the sprint store and the tech there who also has a rooted hero couldn't get it to mount either, the phone just doesn't bring up any mount notification at the top. I have a nandroid backup with stock ROM but even when I do that it is still rooted, they will not give me a new one until it is unrooted. My only other option is to make an insurance claim since I cannot flash it back to stock.
My Question: Is there any way to flash to stock and get unrooted using only my SD card (I can plug it into my card reader and it works fine). Thank you for any help you can give.

bee976 said:
Ok so My phone is not recognized by a computer, i have tried different drivers, cords, ROMs, no matter what I do my phone is not recognized. I took it to the sprint store and the tech there who also has a rooted hero couldn't get it to mount either, the phone just doesn't bring up any mount notification at the top. I have a nandroid backup with stock ROM but even when I do that it is still rooted, they will not give me a new one until it is unrooted. My only other option is to make an insurance claim since I cannot flash it back to stock.
My Question: Is there any way to flash to stock and get unrooted using only my SD card (I can plug it into my card reader and it works fine). Thank you for any help you can give.
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Sorry to report, the only option of unrooting is RUU, and this requires HTC Synch and a definate recognition on your PCs part.
Suggestions, anyone?

What version of Windows are you running? I have had issues with Windows 7 in the past. As weird as it sounds once I loaded PDAnet from the market on to my phone and the PDAnet client onto my computer. My phone was recognized. Is your computer charging the phone when plugged in?

its possible.. but you'd need Flashrec, an unrooted original 1.5 rom, and the original recovery image..
ie: use the custom recovery to flash the unrooted rom, then flashrec to flash the original recovery image.. then remove flashrec..
just an idea!

This brings up another question....
What does Sprint actually check?
Do you really have to get back to 100% stock, or would putting the original recovery image on get you through?
Any current or former Sprint techs willing to chime in? Just how perfect do we have to get it?

chavo2005 said:
its possible.. but you'd need Flashrec, an unrooted original 1.5 rom, and the original recovery image..
ie: use the custom recovery to flash the unrooted rom, then flashrec to flash the original recovery image.. then remove flashrec..
just an idea!
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Actually, that just might work! Great idea chavo, very intuitive thinking!

I take back my last statement. I read somewhere flashrec doesnt work after youv flashed your imahe....google the unlockrs method on flashing a new recovery once already rooted; i think it involves some adb though :-(
Idk, thats as much as i know

I know it works.. but I have an unrooted rom in a nandroid backup from when rooting the Sprint Hero first started.. lol not many people have those laying around, as most used the Asroot2 method of rooting and not Flashrec to flash the recovery.

chavo2005 said:
I know it works.. but I have an unrooted rom in a nandroid backup from when rooting the Sprint Hero first started.. lol not many people have those laying around, as most used the Asroot2 method of rooting and not Flashrec to flash the recovery.
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Yes...good lock finding a 100% stock 1.5 rom.
Could someone link/upload if they have acess?

mountaindont said:
Yes...good lock finding a 100% stock 1.5 rom.
Could someone link/upload if they have acess?
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I have my first nandroid from when I followed this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291
Would that be enough? Of was it already too modified when I did the nandroid backup?
(disclaimer: It might take me a bit to dig it out....)

subliminalurge said:
I have my first nandroid from when I followed this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291
Would that be enough? Of was it already too modified when I did the nandroid backup?
(disclaimer: It might take me a bit to dig it out....)
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Your nandroid wont work on another phone, and if it did, it would synch your contacts to their phones, passwords, apps, the whole shindig. Bad idea
We'll have to beg a dev for a stock 1.5 rom

you can use a nandroid from another Sprint Hero.. done that too when i got my replacement phone! If anyones willing..
RUU, don't sign into google. Download and install Flashrec and flash the recovery through that and create a nandroid backup.. it will be clean

chavo2005 said:
you can use a nandroid from another Sprint Hero.. done that too when i got my replacement phone! If anyones willing..
RUU, don't sign into google. Download and install Flashrec and flash the recovery through that and create a nandroid backup.. it will be clean
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Once again, very intuitive thinking! I thought maybe nandroid was device specific.
Sorry, no way in hell im RUU'ing after all the bricks. Ill stick with dcv2, its stock enough for me

mountaindont said:
Once again, very intuitive thinking! I thought maybe nandroid was device specific.
Sorry, no way in hell im RUU'ing after all the bricks. Ill stick with dcv2, its stock enough for me
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Nandroid is device specific to a point.. If you go in to the nandroid folder on the SD card you will see a folder labled HT********** that is specific to your phone, however you can take a nandroid from another phone and place it in that folder and backup from that.
i'd do the RUU but i'm using the updated radio.

I use a mac, but if indeed it isn't the windows driver, and you have tried other roms, then it only leaves the kernel (and the usb cable and phone usb hwd ).
So use what ever methods you used for the rom flashing, and flash a kernel.
Some ideas : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625940&page=1
( start at page 1 )
Just a thought.

isn't the nandroid image made right AFTER you root?
so then, that wouldn't be what you want.
Extract the stock rom from the RUU

ok.. here's an unrooted 1.5 Nandroid back up.
http://www.4shared.com/file/250722598/a6eddc31/NoRootNandroid.html
Download the zip, extract.. and place the folder NoRootNand on the SD card in SDCARD/nandroid/HT**********/
Boot into recovery, select restore as you would if you were restoring a backup you made -->Nand Restore-->HT**********--> and choose to restore NoRootNand
I'm using the RA-heroc-v1.6.2 recovery, so I am unable to verify if this is will work with an older recovery image.
if you have any questions feel free to ask.

Wow thank you everyone for all of the advice, i had all but given up hope since I had been all over google looking for an answer for about 2 weeks. I will try the nandroid backup above and report back. thank you everyone again, you may have just saved me an insurance claim.

Wow, glad I found this thread. I'm downloading that nandroid image right now because I'm going to probably end up taking my Hero in to get the dust cleaned out later this week. I think another option would be to extract the RUU and get the ROM.zip out of it, and then just flash that.

chavo2005 said:
ok.. here's an unrooted 1.5 Nandroid back up.
http://www.4shared.com/file/250722598/a6eddc31/NoRootNandroid.html
Download the zip, extract.. and place the folder NoRootNand on the SD card in SDCARD/nandroid/HT**********/
Boot into recovery, select restore as you would if you were restoring a backup you made -->Nand Restore-->HT**********--> and choose to restore NoRootNand
I'm using the RA-heroc-v1.6.2 recovery, so I am unable to verify if this is will work with an older recovery image.
if you have any questions feel free to ask.
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Ok I tried this and I am still rooted afterwards. I think that if you go to the sprint store and they can hit volume down and power, and get to the recovery menu then they will not take it back, no matter if the rom u are running is stock or not. any other ideas?

ROM manager backup vs recovery back up

Why is it better to do the backup within recovery vs from ROM manager?
I like how ROM manager gives you the option to name the backup from the start, then runs the backup.
I know it's silly, but kind of nice.

jentzschman2000 said:
Why is it better to do the backup within recovery vs from ROM manager?
I like how ROM manager gives you the option to name the backup from the start, then runs the backup.
I know it's silly, but kind of nice.
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Well it is possible to go back in Rom manager and rename the backups to something else.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

Ya I know. Mainly just wondering why its advised to use recovery vs rom manager to do a backup.

jentzschman2000 said:
Ya I know. Mainly just wondering why its advised to use recovery vs rom manager to do a backup.
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There has been a lot of issues with rom manager making bad backups and bad flashes particularly when using recovery version 3.0.0.x. Flashing and doing nandroids from within recovery has proven to be more stable.
Swyped on my rooted MyTouch4G

jentzschman2000 said:
Why is it better to do the backup within recovery vs from ROM manager?
I like how ROM manager gives you the option to name the backup from the start, then runs the backup.
I know it's silly, but kind of nice.
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They were both made by the same person and do the same thing with exception of naming the backup. Problem is that Rom Manager is not compatible the recovery we have to use yet.
edit: Finaly on the PC and not on the app. In the time it took me to type the answer and take the dogs out there were 2 more posts.
Anyways, to explain just a little more.
Rom manager just hasnt been updated yet for 3.x recoverys yet. Only 4 or 5 phones even require a different recovery in order to flash CM7 so there is no point for him to update it yet. Our phone just happens to be one of them.
Pros of recovery
More access to different types of wipes
can mount system to push files to system via Adb
Ability to reformat
Can do advanced restore of backups
Can read what your flash is doing and if it was succesfull.
Cons
Cant rename backup from there
Have to reboot manually and scroll with trackball rather than 1 click.
Pros of Rom Manager
Eay one click back up that you can rename
Phone reboots by itself after flash.
Cons
See all the pros for recovery.
If your flash errors for some reason you dont get to see why or where it happened.
With that being said. I totaly recomend Rom Manager because I love it but unfortunatly its not compatable for nandroiding with 3.x recoveries.
Now you might be able to flash mods that are in zip form through Rom Manager. Not sure on that one but I can check for ya if you want,

couple of questions about rooting.

To start of, i will be using superoneclick, since it seems to be fairly easy. Now saying that i use that, nothing from my phone will get swiped correct? Apps, data etc..
Now once i do that, i will still have the current os that my phone is running now before the root?
once its rooted will i be able to port whatever app i want over to my SD?
also can i rune themes with out a rom?
thank you in advanced.

1) Correct
2) Yes
3) If your app supports installing to SD you will yes
4) You can't run anything without a ROM
Source --> http://is.gd/yHp7vX

Just rooting wont give you much. I would recommend Rom Manager so you can flash a new recovery for backups and mods.
Most stock roms don't support themeing or a high level of customization. I don't even know if SetCpu will do anything on a stock rom.
Basically I root to install Rom Manager from the market to install clockwork recovery.
A custom recovery allows flashing updated stock apps, themes, custom roms, keyboards, etc.
I suggest a CM7 gingerbread rom and you'll be hooked.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

Ok sounds like a plan, yea i am trying to learn the processes ive seen a few videos and seen how they did it. Using superoneclick and any other type of method to actually root the phone wont really be any difference right? No one root is better then another? at the end they will still end up doing the same thing?
Also when i do a backup what is that for? once i install the roms will i be able to recover the apps i had before? or is that for security reasons that you do a backup.
Sorry for such the noob questions.

sotorious said:
Ok sounds like a plan, yea i am trying to learn the processes ive seen a few videos and seen how they did it. Using superoneclick and any other type of method to actually root the phone wont really be any difference right? No one root is better then another? at the end they will still end up doing the same thing? Exactly the same thing.
Also when i do a backup what is that for? once i install the roms will i be able to recover the apps i had before? or is that for security reasons that you do a backup. 'Nandroid' Backup is a snapshot image of your ROM as it is at the time. Make sure you do one before flashing a custom ROM so that you can easily return to stock if you ever wish to. Once on a custom ROM your apps will show in the Market under 'my apps' and should sync to your phone.
Sorry for such the noob questions.
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Better to be safe than sorry

also, keep in mind nandroid is part of amon recovery. its a common misconception its a app itself.

Some questions about Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 and root/ROMs, etc.

Just got a GTab 2 7.0 a few days ago. A P3113, so only 8GB of storage, about half of which is the ROM and crap apps. I've rooted before (had a KF 1st gen when it came out), and just wondering about a few things with the GTab:
Right now, I don't mind the stock ROM so much. There are problem things that would be "nice to have", but right now, would like to generally stay as "stock" as possible. That being said, I'd still like to "de-crap" the ROM to free up some storage space, and I assume that might lead to it running a bit better, since so much seems to just pop-in while running other apps. So:
I know I need to root first, so my first question - how reliable is that? I'm on a Mac, but have access to a netbook running Win7, so could run Odin to "get things done". I'd hate to brick the thing, still having 51 weeks of warranty left. (I also understand that I might want to install something else to keep the flash count from showing it's been flashed).
Once root'ed, is it better to use one of the "de-crapped" ROMs floating around? And if so, which seems "best" (yeah, I know the moderators hate the "which is best" - I'm looking for stock - and STABLE)
Or, is it better to eliminate the apps myself? (Not sure if this is a wholesale "rm" to remove certain apps from a terminal app, using adb, or if they have some uninstallers embedded somewhere, or...) - so better to use one of the ROMs floating around?
Is the GTab 2 "stable", so even if you trash a ROM, you can still get into the ROM manager to restore a previously working, or stock, ROM?
I'll probably come up with a couple more questions, especially depending on the replies... TIA

Hi..
I can answer some of your questions. I hope that helps!
1- Rooting is easy and reliable. you may use "CF-Auto-Root" tool (search for it in XDA forum).
But you need to remember that rooting and custom ROMs void your warranty.
2- If you just need to free some storage space, you may use an app such as "Clean Master" to uninstall system apps and get rid of temp and junk files.
3- If you opt to use a custom ROM make sure it is very well supported and maintained.

aisais said:
Hi..
I can answer some of your questions. I hope that helps!
1- Rooting is easy and reliable. you may use "CF-Auto-Root" tool (search for it in XDA forum).
But you need to remember that rooting and custom ROMs void your warranty.
2- If you just need to free some storage space, you may use an app such as "Clean Master" to uninstall system apps and get rid of temp and junk files.
3- If you opt to use a custom ROM make sure it is very well supported and maintained.
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Thanks - but prior to using Clean Master I assume I better either get a stock image to reload, or use CWM so I can make a backup of the ROM before messing something up?

tundrwd said:
Thanks - but prior to using Clean Master I assume I better either get a stock image to reload, or use CWM so I can make a backup of the ROM before messing something up?
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Taking a backup is always good thing to do. I suggest you try clean master to know how it works and what does it do.

aisais said:
Taking a backup is always good thing to do. I suggest you try clean master to know how it works and what does it do.
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Thanks - I plan to use Clean Master. Allows me to be selective about what I remove/move, instead of getting a ROM from someone and they removed the ONE THING I really wanted.

Ok, got it rooted and CWM installed.
HOWEVER, when I boot into CWM, I DON'T see an option to backup my ROM (I've used TWRP before on my KF, so the menu is different).
What I've got on my screen in CWM:
Android system recover <3e>
Volume up/down to move highlight;
power button to select.
reboot system now
apply update from ADB
apply update from external storage
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
apply update from cache​
That's it. Where's the option to do a ROM backup? Oh, used file P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip Had CWM and Root all in one. I do have GT-P3113_ClockworkMod-Recovery_6.0.1.0.tar as well. Should I just go through procedure again to flash this CWM? Will it still retain SU?

nandroid backup ok to use? Seems it's just a wrapper for a backup script...

Ok - I'll reply to myself.
I don't know what was wrong with the CWM I installed via the aforementioned file (P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip), but I went to the CWM site, D/L'ed the latest touch enabled CWM for the P3113 (6.0.2.3, I believe), and installed it over the existing recovery image on the device (I had to create my own .tar.md5 - easy with *nix).
Anyway, I now have access to the backup options by scrolling down. The image from P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip, simply wouldn't scroll beyond what I listed earlier. Now can scroll down, make backups, etc.
Haven't tried yet to re-install the image I made with nandroid - I'm a bit leery of that - so I'll just get the stock 4.1.1 ROM from sammobile, and keep it around....

tundrwd said:
Ok - I'll reply to myself.
I don't know what was wrong with the CWM I installed via the aforementioned file (P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip), but I went to the CWM site, D/L'ed the latest touch enabled CWM for the P3113 (6.0.2.3, I believe), and installed it over the existing recovery image on the device (I had to create my own .tar.md5 - easy with *nix).
Anyway, I now have access to the backup options by scrolling down. The image from P3113_SAMSUNG_RECOVERY_SUPERSU-0.96_BUSYBOX-1.20.2.tar.md5.zip, simply wouldn't scroll beyond what I listed earlier. Now can scroll down, make backups, etc.
Haven't tried yet to re-install the image I made with nandroid - I'm a bit leery of that - so I'll just get the stock 4.1.1 ROM from sammobile, and keep it around....
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That's exactly what I did today, grabbed the stock image for a backup, rooted with Odin and CWM then flashed a CM based 4.3 ROM. Piece of cake.