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Here you go - if you scroll down to the first video on the page you'll see how they scratch HD2's screen with keys, a knife and scissors - and none of these leave any traces on the screen.
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Wow, now that's hard glass...no screen saver needed for me.
I felt literally sick after watching that
Waouh ! no screen protector for me too !
Yikes, but boy are those camera pictures crap, why did they put that pile of ****e in it. What a let down.
Finally
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Here you go - if you scroll down to the first video on the page you'll see how they scratch HD2's screen with keys, a knife and scissors - and none of these leave any traces on the screen.
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I was keeping asking this question in all forums and finally you brought me THE answer in video...
Thanks so much
Watta device
you can see the screen scratching with the scissors.
I guarantee you however hard it is, there will be marks on that screen, even if superficial.
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you can see the screen scratching with the scissors.
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No that's not scratches but a mark made by fat left by the fingers. He cleans the screen after and no more mark...
DocteurN said:
No that's not scratches but a mark made by fat left by the fingers. He cleans the screen after and no more mark...
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Personally i'm seeing a smudge over where he was scratching, without cleaning the screen no conclusive information can be taken from this.
Well, he says there are no scratches left, for what it's worth. I would trust his opinion in this case rather than impressions from the video.
well even if their was scratches on teh scree from SISSORS it is still impressive. i mena come on, the guy was trying to scratch the screen and it diddnt.
what it doesnt show on the video is the amount of pressure he applied though.
I'm sure you can scratch it, picking the right tools and the right pressure. But I think it's rather safe to assume that it's scratch resistant enough to keep the phone in your pocket without any shields.
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I'm sure you can scratch it, picking the right tools and the right pressure. But I think it's rather safe to assume that it's scratch resistant enough to keep the phone in your pocket without any shields.
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agreed, i think the point behind the entire "scratch proof" is to prove that placing it in your pocket without a screen protector will not have it coming out looking like a touch HD 1 This is great news in my humble opinion!!
not sure what is so bad of putting a screen protector, really? I won't take a risk at all to have a permanent scratch on my device!
Well, because I hate doing things like applying those damned protectors; because those protectors get scratched fairly easily and your device starts looking like crap; because I can never apply them accurately enough so that they don't have bubbles underneath.
I hate them with a passion, really. I even wanted to by an iPhone because of this. When I first heard about capacitive screen on the Leo I didn't give a damn about multi-touch (and I still don't care much about it). My hope was that HTC would use a glass screen surface. Now I'm happy. The screen is scratch resistant; if I still manage to put a scratch on it, I'll have it replaced - it's not that expensive.
that was stressful watchin that The poor TD2
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Well, because I hate doing things like applying those damned protectors; because those protectors get scratched fairly easily and your device starts looking like crap; because I can never apply them accurately enough so that they don't have bubbles underneath.
I hate them with a passion, really. I even wanted to by an iPhone because of this. When I first heard about capacitive screen on the Leo I didn't give a damn about multi-touch (and I still don't care much about it). My hope was that HTC would use a glass screen surface. Now I'm happy. The screen is scratch resistant; if I still manage to put a scratch on it, I'll have it replaced - it's not that expensive.
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agree 100% with u, man i loved those iPhone screens, i could care less about the multi touch, i mean great, but if my HD 1 would have that screen, i'd be more than happy using it for a good more couple of months!
Really impressive, thanks for sharing
Ah c'mon! Some of you guys arguing about whether it scratched with scissors, ffs a car windscreen will scratch with scissors!! It very scratch resistant, i'm very impressed. Christ I wouldn't be surprised if some of you started complaining it's not dishwasher proof, jeez...
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Here you go - if you scroll down to the first video on the page you'll see how they scratch HD2's screen with keys, a knife and scissors - and none of these leave any traces on the screen.
Warning: This is not for the faint of heart. Unless you are used to eating babies for breakfast you may be better off not watching this brutal torture video. Here's a quick test to check if you're ready:
1. Do you plan to start using an electric vehicle to help stop global warming?
2. Do you consider your personal contribution to the cause of Free Tibet insufficient?
3. Did you ever believe a politician?
If you answer "yes" to any of the questions above, this thread might be better for you.
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it seems like not a reliable test to me, the reviewers seems using light pressure doing the test. And I really don't believe that any phone in the market can be really scratch resistant. Why taking the risk. In real world usages, there are many things can scratch glass surface very easily, and why leave some permanent scratches to the expensive device? What is so wrong with a screen protector?
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Evo 4g scratch test
I suppose I should put in the disclaimer that the phone is being returned to sprint because the screen has risen up from the bezel, and that is the only reason that I did the scratch test.
I forgot to mention that I did the same thing to the back camera, but it lasted all of 2 seconds and it scratched.
For the life of me I can't figure out why they would not use the same glass as the screen.
Nice to see the screen toughness.
I'd be surprised if any of those objects DID scratch the glass, seeing as how glass is harder than most metals.
What you have to REALLY look out for is abrasive materials like sand. This applies to all owners of devices with glass screens. That stuff will leave your screen looking horrible.
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I'd be surprised if any of those objects DID scratch the glass, seeing as how glass is harder than most metals.
What you have to REALLY look out for is abrasive materials like sand. This applies to all owners of devices with glass screens. That stuff will leave your screen looking horrible.
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Ya, but it seems most people are more concerned about the keys and change in there pocket, not so much sand.
Roman G said:
Ya, but it seems most people are more concerned about the keys and change in there pocket, not so much sand.
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That's a bit strange; keys aren't very sharp to begin with, so how would they scratch a glass screen? If anything, a trip to the beach is going to be much scarier than carrying your keys along with your Evo in the same pocket.
You must smoke more crack than Jimmy Crackhead to be taking your phone to the beach.
There ain't no way in hell I am taking my phone to the beach.
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You must smoke more crack than Jimmy Crackhead to be taking your phone to the beach.
There ain't no way in hell I am taking my phone to the beach.
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OMG!! But how am I going to stay in touch with my followerz on twitter and my friendz on facebook when i'm on the beacch? ='(='(='(
Very cool but I have to admit it made me a little sick to my stomach LOL.
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Roman G said:
Ya, but it seems most people are more concerned about the keys and change in there pocket, not so much sand.
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Sand, dirt, and a mixture of crap in your pocket is more likely to scuff the screen than anything else. Hence, I always recommend cloth pouches for touchscreen phones.
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OMG!! But how am I going to stay in touch with my followerz on twitter and my friendz on facebook when i'm on the beacch? ='(='(='(
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Yea, and how am i supposed to show my friends all the hot chicks running around live on Qik?
Thanks I've been getting sick of telling people that it doesn't need a screen protector.
It is still a good idea to get a screen protector on your phone.
It's scratch resistant, not scratch proof.
Having the same issue as you Roman, along with the light bleed from the button below the screen. Talking to my company rep now so I can get it replaced.
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Ya, but it seems most people are more concerned about the keys and change in there pocket, not so much sand.
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Most, sure. I live in the high desert. Grime, dust, and dirt/sand are concerns here.
Roman G said:
You must smoke more crack than Jimmy Crackhead to be taking your phone to the beach.
There ain't no way in hell I am taking my phone to the beach.
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Lol... its just a phone. breathe my man, breathe.
I'm not worried this is why I have TEP. If it gets scratch I'll just throw it in the damn ocean.. Take that BP
zone23 said:
I'm not worried this is why I have TEP. If it gets scratch I'll just throw it in the damn ocean.. Take that BP
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That's one way of dealing with it...
twigs187 said:
That's one way of dealing with it...
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Yes if only others thought I was as funny as I think I am....
OP, what was the problem with the phone initially? What did you mean by "screen" rising?
Great test and good to know! thanks for the video
Dude I want to kill myself right now. Got two 1cm scratches on the middle bottom of my xoom. Not noticeable when the screen is on but jesus christ. It was with a ****en water bottle no metal.
I'm dying inside, need help. Anyway of minimizing this?
I bought this from verizon the day of release, is it possible to return and cancel contract? This sounds rediculous but I would love to restart the whole purchase process......****KKKKK
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Hey that rhymes
Small particles which are harder than gorilla glass can stick to either the glass surface or the plastic surface of your water bottle. Accidentally rub them into the glass with the water bottle and you can definitely scratch the glass.
Gorilla glass absolutely requires a screen protector.
As for the return, most places just make sure the serial number matches and the parts are in the box (cables, charger, etc). Never had anyone look closely at the display. Though if they saw it, I'm sure they would reject the return.
any suggestions? ive thought about saying there is a defect in the software/hardware...to do an exchange..or purchasing one off contacting and switching?!
help me people..HELP MEE
If it's not noticeable when you're using it I'm sure you'll forget about it. No need to lie.
Calm down and take a few days to think about if you really care that much.
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Small particles which are harder than gorilla glass can stick to either the glass surface or the plastic surface of your water bottle. Accidentally rub them into the glass with the water bottle and you can definitely scratch the glass.
Gorilla glass absolutely requires a screen protector.
As for the return, most places just make sure the serial number matches and the parts are in the box (cables, charger, etc). Never had anyone look closely at the display. Though if they saw it, I'm sure they would reject the return.
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I don't know about that. My droid X doesn't have a scratch on it and I've given it a couple of knocks!
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I don't know about that. My droid X doesn't have a scratch on it and I've given it a couple of knocks!
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Exactly, I've dropped my evo countless times and it's perfect still.
You scratched it dude.... sorry for the bad luck but don't cheat the store.
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You scratched it dude.... sorry for the bad luck but don't cheat the store.
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+1 to this.
**** happens, then you die. It doesn't impact use/performance so what's the big deal, now you won't be as upset when you do it again, and you know you're going to do it again!
yeah man but i have had my nexus one for over a year with no screen, no scratches. and thats with No gorilla glass.
this thing with its 'gorilla glass' was surrounded by a freaken poland spring bottle and got scratched?!
anyways, im going to the store, wiping everything...saying there is a horrible glitch where my accounts get dropped/no notifications/random reboots and hopefully the technician will buy it. oh, and ill spread abunch of oily finger prints to ward off the scratches...whatever the case..i did **** up but jesus, thats just wierd..wish me luck with my scumbaggery
Plastic or glass?
iceytea said:
Plastic or glass?
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This, if it were a glass water bottle it's your own fault. Glass + glass == scratch no matter what.
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I don't know about that. My droid X doesn't have a scratch on it and I've given it a couple of knocks!
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And there are other people who have scratched such screens. It can happen. So why bother risking it when a screen protector can be had for under $10? Well maybe under $20 for a tablet.
i agree with the others: don't take it back to the store just because of 2 tiny scratches. With time, you will forget it. If it's not really visible when using, why stress? It's hard for you to go to sleep knowing that your xoom is not being used with a scratch on it?
I remember when I scratched the hell out of my 42-inch plasma tv when I was moving a few years ago. I was so upset, especially at the guy who let the door close on the screen. Once the tv was turned on, couldn't see the scratch, so I stopped worrying and my stress levels went down dramatically
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Dude I want to kill myself right now. Got two 1cm scratches on the middle bottom of my xoom. Not noticeable when the screen is on but jesus christ. It was with a ****en water bottle no metal.
I'm dying inside, need help. Anyway of minimizing this?
I bought this from verizon the day of release, is it possible to return and cancel contract? This sounds rediculous but I would love to restart the whole purchase process......****KKKKK
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Whatever you try be careful as you may cause more damage. Personally, I would try a small amount of toothpaste on a microfiber cloth. This method completely removed a scratch on my Epic 4G (Gorilla glass).
I'm actually pretty surprised by this.
My Samsung Vibrant has gorilla glass and has taken a serious pounding from not even caring about the keys in my pocket to actually falling face down on the sidewalk.
This is why I got insurance on my Xoom from BB.
it was a PLASTIC poland spring bottle.
im so sick to my stomach over the purchase amount and how fast it scratched. its disheartning...i mean, i have a nexus S now too (dropped 524 for it) and it doesnt have anything...
granted..i left the bottle in my duffle bag with my xoom, but seriously...nothing else in there..i guess i am freaking out but i dont get it.
i know its a low life move but im within my 14days return policy and maybe i can get away with making up false claims of software issues without the technician being too penetrating in operating it...and if so..ill walk away, head in lap, and accept the scratches.
ill post the damn pictures of it right now
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yeah man but i have had my nexus one for over a year with no screen, no scratches. and thats with No gorilla glass.
this thing with its 'gorilla glass' was surrounded by a freaken poland spring bottle and got scratched?!
anyways, im going to the store, wiping everything...saying there is a horrible glitch where my accounts get dropped/no notifications/random reboots and hopefully the technician will buy it. oh, and ill spread abunch of oily finger prints to ward off the scratches...whatever the case..i did **** up but jesus, thats just wierd..wish me luck with my scumbaggery
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Good luck man, I'd be rright there with you if that happened to me. It is your own idiocracy for not having a screen protector on I left the plastin on that said where the volume and whatnot on my xoom for two days till I got a screen protector.
But either way I'm rooting for you, let me know how things turn out.
And for the haters I know its his fault and it really don't effect anything significant, but can you honestly say you wouldn't try the same thing? I mean its not like he had it in a bag with a handful of coins, it was a water bottle, imagine that being you. Trying to be all healthy by drinking water only for it to turn on you and chomp up your new multi hundred dollar device's screen.
Now the real story, you left it in a duffel bag unprotected? I did that once with my kindle and the screen cracked. What do you expect will happen?
I was just coming back home from the gym, brain dead after the heavy pulling workout, when the phone slid out of my backpack's top pocket and hit the footpath screen down. I was protected by the cheapo amazon gel case and Vikuiti screen protector. The height was roughly 1.5m, the concrete was rough and the phone hit flat like a goddamn cowpat, no tumbling. The result - 1 scratch and two little marks on the screen protector. No damage to the phone whatsoever. I feel that I've just used up all my good luck for a week. Gonna take it easy for a while But I must say that this gel case provides quite a level of protection for the money - it has this 0.5-1mm rim around the screen that prevents the phone from hitting the ground in most vunerable spot - the edge of the screen.
Sorry for the poor quality but there's nothing really to photograph so I'm not gonna bother.
Dude, if you post a pic like that again i think the world may end or something.
I was looking at your pic of a note that had a pic of a note, on my note
Cases
Any good cases you can recommend? I found 2 micro scratches on my screen this morning it's kind of okay though, because you can never see them and when you look really hard for it, they just look like specs of dust!
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Dude, if you post a pic like that again i think the world may end or something.
I was looking at your pic of a note that had a pic of a note, on my note
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Lol! Nice one.
Oh God!
Was I reading about you looking at his pic of a note that had a pic of a note, on your note, on my note?
next....
Combo breaker! Haha
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Phoneception! o.o
I dropped it last Friday, it was on my jacket pocket, and when I got in the car, the phone fell out of my jacket in to some stony ground.... I expected the screen to stay upside up... but no, of course it crashed upside down....
I got some scratches on the right corner up, and left corner down... I thought the screen was intact, but when I came home i saw a little L form scratch, when i'm using the phone i don't even see it.... but i know it is there lol
And well, when using the S Pen, some times i feel the scratch.
It could be worse, so i have to say that even with a bigger screen and a little more heavier than the SGS2, the Galaxy Note has a very resistant screen... and in the other side, very weak frame, just as the SGS2.
where did you buy your Vikuiti
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Dude, if you post a pic like that again i think the world may end or something.
I was looking at your pic of a note that had a pic of a note, on my note
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Hehe, it's just the First phase of my World Domination Via Thoughts Control By Posting Stupid Photos On XDA Plan. YOU WILL ALL SQUEAL...(by the end of phase Three).
James Harrison said:
Any good cases you can recommend? I found 2 micro scratches on my screen this morning it's kind of okay though, because you can never see them and when you look really hard for it, they just look like specs of dust!
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/FoneM8-Sams...L20S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322687847&sr=8-1
That's mine. To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't recommend it, I don't like it. But it just saved me 600 quid or so. Hard to argue with facts.
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where did you buy your Vikuiti
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Ebay. I got myself ADQC27. I had DQC160 before on my HTC Desire. Best protectors I have ever used. Period.
I hear if you do that and divide by zero on a calculator you open up a wormhole to 1980.
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just to clarify is that screen protector anti glare. I would have to order it from Germany and dont want a mirror staring me in the face
Suzook1 said:
just to clarify is that screen protector anti glare. I would have to order it from Germany and dont want a mirror staring me in the face
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Anti-glare protectors make the screen look terrible on a phone.
No, it's not anti-glare. I have never come across an anti-glare protector that I'd be happy with. Not an issue with Super AMOLED screens IMO. I don't remember being annoyed by the reflection while using the phone even once, the colours are so rich and crisp that they outshine any reflections, even if my lockscreen and homescreen are both pretty dark. It's clearly visible only when the screen is off.
I am about sick and tired of this phone, it's been nothing but problems. I seriously am thinking about going back to my HTC Evo 3d. So the latest thing is that the damn thing only rings about half the time when someone is calling, the other half the time it goes to voicemail. I've tested this with my son's phone, I've called myself and it will ring on his end, but on my phone nothing. And this is with full service.
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I am about sick and tired of this phone, it's been nothing but problems. I seriously am thinking about going back to my HTC Evo 3d. So the latest thing is that the damn thing only rings about half the time when someone is calling, the other half the time it goes to voicemail. I've tested this with my son's phone, I've called myself and it will ring on his end, but on my phone nothing. And this is with full service.
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Sorry to hear about all your issues. I don't blame you for wanting to go back. Sounds like you may have a bad unit. Can you do an exchange?
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Sorry to hear about all your issues. I don't blame you for wanting to go back. Sounds like you may have a bad unit. Can you do an exchange?
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I am going to have to stop into Sprint and see. The blurry pictures in the browser issue and the constantly stuck internet connection issue is just as annoying as not getting my calls. Makes me mad though because I just put a $15 screen protector on, go figure.....
jmana said:
I am going to have to stop into Sprint and see. The blurry pictures in the browser issue and the constantly stuck internet connection issue is just as annoying as not getting my calls. Makes me mad though because I just put a $15 screen protector on, go figure.....
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Yeah, I hear you. I always hold off on the screen protector for a few days. It's taking a little bit of a risk, but this Gorilla glass is so tough, I'm not too worried about it. I feel for you, though.
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Yeah, I hear you. I always hold off on the screen protector for a few days. It's taking a little bit of a risk, but this Gorilla glass is so tough, I'm not too worried about it. I feel for you, though.
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But I've heard the S4 glass is more fragile than the S3, and considering how many of the S3's I've seen on ebay with cracked screens I don't know that I want to risk it. It sucks that the replacement glass can be had for about $10, but is nearly impossible to replace. I know from experience, I had an S3 with a cracked screen and tried to replace it and ended up screwing up the digitizer. And there is a piece that attaches to the backside of the glass, never could figure out how that is to be replaced.
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But I've heard the S4 glass is more fragile than the S3,
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FWIW, Corning says G3 is 3 times touger than G2.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/innovating-with-gorilla
But I'm not as worried about screen breakage. I've never broken a screen on a smartphone personally (knock on wood). Just worried about scratching. And the Gorilla glass seems VERY scratch resistant.
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FWIW, Corning says G3 is 3 times touger than G2.
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/innovating-with-gorilla
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I believe this is a marketing BS. It MAY BE 3 times tougher than GG2, but it is done with the purpose of making the glass thinner, so the whole phone is thinner. I think Samsung uses the glass thin enough to provide protection comparable to GG2. If the glass was as thick as GG2, then it would have been up to 3 times stronger. Just my opinion, not a fact.
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I believe this is a marketing BS. It MAY BE 3 times tougher than GG2, but it is done with the purpose of making the glass thinner, so the whole phone is thinner. I think Samsung uses the glass thin enough to provide protection comparable to GG2. If the glass was as thick as GG2, then it would have been up to 3 times stronger. Just my opinion, not a fact.
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Obviously you can believe what you like. And I'm certainly not going to say there is not some marketing going on. But unless you have something more to back up your opinion, I'll choose to believe that the GG3 is indeed tougher than GG2 as I can't see Corning fibbing about a thing like that.